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I think Fedor is the obvious answer. But there are others like Bisbing, Lesnar and Liddell. Who do you guys have?
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I think Fedor is the obvious answer. But there are others like Bisbing, Lesnar and Liddell. Who do you guys have?
Liddell overrated? What?!
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This board is ridiculous, its no wonder almost nobody comes on here. Your statements have no reasoning / justification and in all honesty all 3 of your choices are so far from being overrated you are now quite the laughing stock. We have tolerated your incessant rambling about Fedor for months but you come across now as someone that genuinely has NO idea about the sport. Simply writing this is an absolute waste of time but i shall view my opinion none the less because you sir are, in simplistic terms, an idiot.
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1. chucky is overrated. fed wrestlers with no stand up his whole life. went to pride with dana thinking "chuckies da man" and got spanked by rampage.
2. randy is overrated. fought a bunch of nobodies and scrubs. his testing ground was pride and he didnt have the balls to fight there.
ANYONE IN THE UFC THAT WAS A HEAVY OR LIGHT HEAVY DURING THE PRIDE ERA WAS OVERRATED BECAUSE THEY NEVER TESTED THEMSELVES AGAINST THE BEST
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1. chucky is overrated. fed wrestlers with no stand up his whole life. went to pride with dana thinking "chuckies da man" and got spanked by rampage.
2. randy is overrated. fought a bunch of nobodies and scrubs. his testing ground was pride and he didnt have the balls to fight there.
ANYONE IN THE UFC THAT WAS A HEAVY OR LIGHT HEAVY DURING THE PRIDE ERA WAS OVERRATED BECAUSE THEY NEVER TESTED THEMSELVES AGAINST THE BEST
yeah..liddel knocked overeem, and beat belfort. neither of them have great stand up. ::)
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yeah..liddel knocked overeem, and beat belfort. neither of them have great stand up. ::)
1.LOL at you for even thinking belfort has good standup. he only has fast hands and decent standup.
2. he defeats an ubereem who was only on cabbage juice as a light heavy. lets see him fight a non weight drained ubereem
WHAT DONT YOU GET? IF YOU WERE A HEAVY OR LIGHT HEAVY DURING THE PRIDE ERA AND NEVER FOUGHT THERE YOU HAVENT BEEN TESTED. except chucky, he went their and got his ass handed to him. he was just lucky he never made it to wandy beacuse he would of been stomped to death.
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ESPN used to always talk up "Ice Man" then show the highlight of him getting owned beyond belief. He's the Danica Patrick of MMA.
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1> Chuck Lidell
2> Randy Couture
End of list.
Anyone who has the slightest bit of intellectual curiosity on this board ( which means 5 people max) can confirm this as fact, not opinion.
It is remarkable that Randy stayed relevant into his 40's> However, lets be real here, he was a shadow of his former self and deeply flawed as a fighter, especially later on in his career.
Lidell was a tough mofo-- no doubt about it. Every UFC fighter should be forced to be as aggressive as Lidell (ala Pride yellow cards) . However, Rampage exposed what everyone else had always suspected; the man has a jaw made of eggshells. Rampage owned Lidell not once, but twice and to top it off, so did Shogun. It was a happy accident that a totally depleted and over the hill Franklin ko"d Chuck. He helped put MMA on the map, no doubt-- but in terms of actual skill, the man was legendary for a short period of time and then imminently beatable.
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I think Fedor is the obvious answer. But there are others like Bisbing, Lesnar and Liddell. Who do you guys have?
Lesnar by a million miles.
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Cro Cop by far
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Kimbo Slice?
Regarded by some as invincible before he got KTFO in 10 seconds by a guy with pink hair.
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Kimbo Slice?
Regarded by some as invincible before he got KTFO in 10 seconds by a guy with pink hair.
Oh yeh, Kimbo for sure!
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I think Fedor is the obvious answer. But there are others like Bisbing, Lesnar and Liddell. Who do you guys have?
agreed on Lesnar...!
but come on man ... fedor was a great fighter....
he beat a lot of top guys in pride.... when these guys were in their prime.... cro cop, noqueira, coleman, arlovski...herring etc ...
fedor is not overrated imo.
Lesnar very much so, big foot also, and cain.... jds will kill cain!
cheik kongo also, the guy is a baby on the ground. shane carwin also overrated..
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Kimbo
Lesnar
Franklin
Forrest
Leben
Bisping
Arlovski
All good fighters, but built up to "god" status by Dana/UFC to hype their fight cards when they first started out.
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Why the hell would you put Liddell In there. Before his decline he was knocking dudes out left and right. One of the most feared strikers during that time. Stupid list!
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Why the hell would you put Liddell In there. Before his decline he was knocking dudes out left and right. One of the most feared strikers during that time. Stupid list!
First of all, this is all OPINION based. There are no right/wrong choices. I put Liddell on there because most people consider him the greatest LHW of all time and some fools even consider him the greatest ever. He is one of 2-3 MMA fighters that became household names. Yet, he is far from the greatest LHV ever, let alone the greatest MMA fighter ever ::) Liddell was good and he should definitely be mentioned in anyones list of the top 10 LHW of all time. But, truth be told, he was fed a steady diet of wrestlers/grapplers with horrible standup...perfect for his sprawl & brawl style. When he finally faced someone with better striking, he was KOd. He was overrated...
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Why the hell would you put Liddell In there. Before his decline he was knocking dudes out left and right. One of the most feared strikers during that time. Stupid list!
Totally agree.
Liddell was never overrated. He was top dog for years. He KO'd dudes all the time, and based upon his great sprawl, he fared well against wrestlers. And he faced other strikers all the time.. look at his record.
You can't base him being overrated on the fact that he started getting KO'd at the end of his career. The guy had his issues outside of the sport.
Honestly MS, this was a bad pick on your part. Liddell was never overrated.
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As long as you can justify a pick to yourself for legitimate reasons, then you will always be correct. If MS genuinely sees these flaws with Chucks game as an objective viewer then he is entitled to state that and nobody can tell him he is wrong, however alot of people will view Chuck as one of the all time greats due to his prime fights and what he was able to do to world class fighters.
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Thank Granite...some people have a hard time differentiating fact from opinion. Discussions about greatest of all time or greatest P4P or who is overrated are all opinion based.
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Akiyama.
He's won nothing since joining the UFC. And no I don't count the split decision "win" over Belcher.
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He's also a Judo supremo but never tries takedowns. If he did one Parisyan-style sweep a match he'd at least be some entertainment. Maybe he wants to get cut so he can go back and fight in DREAM?
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Of course it's all opinion. So is my opinion when I say you're crazy for thinking Liddell is overrated. ;D
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Minspin has a point.For someone to be over rated it has to be loads of people calling them legends or greats. So his opinion based on lidell is kinda fair, although i dont agree.
People sayin lesnar??? WTF??? ??? I dont think anyones ever said he was one of the greatest fighters ever LOL thats the difference.He has/had alot of fans and nuthuggers but i dont think anyone ever really said he was the greatest ever or anything, get real!
Its hard to have an opinion on this, as alot of guys were amazing in their 20s then dropped big style when they hit mid 30s ( Crocop, Fedor,Wand etc )
Also Bisping??? Once again not many people have ever rated him highly to be 'over rated' ::)
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Why the hell would you put Liddell In there. Before his decline he was knocking dudes out left and right. One of the most feared strikers during that time. Stupid list!
lidell was the ufc representitive in pride tournaments... did not do to well if i remember.
that was in his primedays as well..
nevertheless one of the greats for sure...
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Why the hell would you put Liddell In there. Before his decline he was knocking dudes out left and right. One of the most feared strikers during that time. Stupid list!
i agree. guys say that he was feed wrestlers..guess what? thats what the best of the best was during that era.
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Wanderlei Silva.
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Wanderlei Silva.
wow.........not sure if youre serious ???
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Certainly.
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Wanderlei Silva.
Go ask Rampage or Sakuraba how overrated he is.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I'll ask Chris Leben.
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I'll ask Chris Leben.
Wanderlia is past his prime. He was at the top of the lhw heap for a long time in his prime people were afraid to fight him. He had a lot of great wins over legit names. If he looses this fight to Cung it's time to hang them up.
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Wanderlia is past his prime. He was at the top of the lhw heap for a long time in his prime people were afraid to fight him. He had a lot of great wins over legit names. If he looses this fight to Cung it's time to hang them up.
Fedor, Liddell, Couture are all being judged here based on more recent fights. I'm just applying the same logic to Silva. They were all monsters at one point and hardly overrated.
In the UFC? I don't think I've seen the guy win a fight.
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Fedor, Liddell, Couture are all being judged here based on more recent fights. I'm just applying the same logic to Silva. They were all monsters at one point and hardly overrated.
In the UFC? I don't think I've seen the guy win a fight.
I see your point his ufc career has been less than stellar except for the fight he had with Liddell and the his epic knockout of Keith Jardine.
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Fedor, Liddell, Couture are all being judged here based on more recent fights. I'm just applying the same logic to Silva. They were all monsters at one point and hardly overrated.
In the UFC? I don't think I've seen the guy win a fight.
were talking about prime and wandy was not overrated. sloppy yes but overrated hell no
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were talking about prime and wandy was not overrated. sloppy yes but overrated hell no
"Fedor, Liddell, Couture are all being judged here based on more recent fights. I'm just applying the same logic to Silva. They were all monsters at one point and hardly overrated."
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"Fedor, Liddell, Couture are all being judged here based on more recent fights. I'm just applying the same logic to Silva. They were all monsters at one point and hardly overrated."
u got to be a dick to judge fighters on there recent fights. were talking about prime.
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u got to be a dick to judge fighters on there recent fights. were talking about prime.
I'm clearly not getting through to you.
Good day, sir.
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I'm clearly not getting through to you.
Good day, sir.
not you this is for everyone
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Kimbo Slice?
Regarded by some as invincible before he got KTFO in 10 seconds by a guy with pink hair.
Yip point there however he hardly had enough fights in MMA to judge that point properly on a fight, Kimbo was a good Street fighter (no hes sure as hell is no Lenny McLean) but he was a good Fighter on the footpath, in the mma ring with rules against trained fighters not so, theres always too many Variables when and where rules are involved, ive heard hes now trying boxing....might be a bit late in the piece for him there.... However he will have a better chance @ the lower B-Grade Boxers than the same Ranked MMA Fighters.
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not you this is for everyone
Sorry, my mistake.
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Wanderlia is past his prime. He was at the top of the lhw heap for a long time in his prime people were afraid to fight him. He had a lot of great wins over legit names. If he looses this fight to Cung it's time to hang them up.
i agree. i remember in pride guys went in almost expecting to lose. he had an Aura about him. he was aggressive and very dangerous. one of the best IMO
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I'll ask Chris Leben.
Yep, because we should base all of the career and achievements of a fighter on one fight where he was almost 35 years old and recovering from surgery on his knees and back.
Fail
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yep, because we should base all of the career and achievemts of a fighter on one fight where he was almost 35 years old and recovering from surgery on his knees and back.
Fail
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Sucky you think Wand has anything left? The last fight with Leben left me with a terrible taste. I'm kind of afraid to watch him fight now it hurts me a lot to see him get knocked out.
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Yep, because we should base all of the career and achievemts of a fighter on one fight where he was almost 35 years old and recovering from surgery on his knees and back.
Fail
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Fedor, Liddell, Couture are all being judged here based on more recent fights. I'm just applying the same logic to Silva. They were all monsters at one point and hardly overrated.
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Sucky you think Wand has anything left? The last fight with Leben left me with a terrible taste. I'm kind of afraid to watch him fight now it hurts me a lot to see him get knocked out.
Wand is done. Nothing for him to be ashamed of though.
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Sucky you think Wand has anything left? The last fight with Leben left me with a terrible taste. I'm kind of afraid to watch him fight now it hurts me a lot to see him get knocked out.
Wandy is my favorite MMA fighter of all times, but I don't think he has a career left. He is 35 and a very old 35 since he has been fighting for 15 years. He also has suffered severe injuries to both of his knees and to many disks in his spine. He is finished. But...I think he should and can give a severe beating to Chael Sonnen for all the things Sonnen said about him like that he is not good enough to fight in the UFC and that all his fights in PRIDE were fixed. Wrestlers have always had a hard time with Wandy, and he is still a knock out artist. He should train like a madman for 6 months, come back to fight Sonnen, give him the beating of a lifetime and then retire. That would be a golden way to finish his career. Like Coltrane said, he has nothing left to prove. He is almost universally regarded as one of the top 5 MMA fighters of all times in all weight classes.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Wandy is my favorite MMA fighter of all times, but I don't think he has a career left. He is 35 and a very old 35 since he has been fighting for 15 years. He also has suffered severe injuries to both of his knees and to many disks in his spine. He is finished. But...I think he should and can give a severe beating to Chael Sonnen for all the things Sonnen said about him like that he is not good enough to fight in the UFC and that all his fights in PRIDE were fixed. Wrestlers have always had a hard time with Wandy, and he is still a knock out artist. He should train like a madman for 6 months, come back to fight Sonnen, give him the beating of a lifetime and then retire. That would be a golden way to finish his career. Like Coltrane said, he has nothing left to prove. He is almost universally regarded as one of the top 5 MMA fighters of all times in all weight classes.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
6 months training for that fight wont help him in any way, as you stated he is an old 35 now so why do you believe he will suddenly be better? This wandy isnt getting anywhere near Sonnen, it would be as good an MMA rape as you would see. If A. Silva couldnt do anything to him - and his stand up is the best you will see in any division - then how is wandy expected to get to him?
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6 months training for that fight wont help him in any way, as you stated he is an old 35 now so why do you believe he will suddenly be better? This wandy isnt getting anywhere near Sonnen, it would be as good an MMA rape as you would see. If A. Silva couldnt do anything to him - and his stand up is the best you will see in any division - then how is wandy expected to get to him?
Ok, first of all, Silva went into that fight with two broken ribs. Secondly, Sonnen was cheating with steroids. Steroids increase your pain threshold and your will to win. He beat on Anderson for 5 rounds, but did he do any damage? Silva had barely a black eye at the post-fight press conference. Sonnen can't bust a grape. In a rematch, Silva might kill Sonnen. We might actually watch the first death in MMA.
Wandy has some of the best takedown defense among strikers in all divisions, and he is devastating when he gets you in the clinch with those knees. I can see a furious Wandy clinching with Sonnen every time the latter tries to take him down, and kneeing his head in. If Sonnen does take him down, he won't be able to knock Wandy out on the ground-and-pound. He is no Chris Leben. He has no power at all. The guy hits like a primary school girl. What is Sonnen going to do in this fight against Wandy except getting knocked out or TKO's on the ground?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ok, first of all, Silva went into that fight with two broken ribs. Secondly, Sonnen was cheating with steroids. Steroids increase your pain threshold and your will to win. He beat on Anderson for 5 rounds, but did he do any damage? Silva had barely a black eye at the post-fight press conference. Sonnen can't bust a grape. In a rematch, Silva might kill Sonnen. We might actually watch the first death in MMA.
Wandy has some of the best takedown defense among strikers in all divisions, and he is devastating when he gets you in the clinch with those knees. I can see a furious Wandy clinching with Sonnen every time the latter tries to take him down, and kneeing his head in. If Sonnen does take him down, he won't be able to knock Wandy out on the ground-and-pound. He is no Chris Leben. He has no power at all. The guy hits like a primary school girl. What is Sonnen going to do in this fight against Wandy except getting knocked out or TKO's on the ground?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
First point: absolutely ridiculous statement to make.
Second point: He doesnt have awesome KO power, but he'll have enough to knock out wandy if hes on top of him hammering down blows repeatedly. You seem to think that even though his punch resistance is at its all time worst he'll still be a superman against Sonnen - why is this? Sonnen only needs to control him on the ground for 3 rounds - which he is more than capable of doing - to get a decision victory and then what will the excuses be?
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Ok, first of all, Silva went into that fight with two broken ribs. Secondly, Sonnen was cheating with steroids. Steroids increase your pain threshold and your will to win. He beat on Anderson for 5 rounds, but did he do any damage? Silva had barely a black eye at the post-fight press conference. Sonnen can't bust a grape. In a rematch, Silva might kill Sonnen. We might actually watch the first death in MMA.
Wandy has some of the best takedown defense among strikers in all divisions, and he is devastating when he gets you in the clinch with those knees. I can see a furious Wandy clinching with Sonnen every time the latter tries to take him down, and kneeing his head in. If Sonnen does take him down, he won't be able to knock Wandy out on the ground-and-pound. He is no Chris Leben. He has no power at all. The guy hits like a primary school girl. What is Sonnen going to do in this fight against Wandy except getting knocked out or TKO's on the ground?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Since when have steroids improved a guys will to win and their pain threshold? PMSL do you make things up for the sake of it? Ridiculous man ;D
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were talking about prime and wandy was not overrated. sloppy yes but overrated hell no
He fought a bunch of cans in Japan. He was overrated.
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Since when have steroids improved a guys will to win and their pain threshold? PMSL do you make things up for the sake of it? Ridiculous man ;D
They do make you way the fuck more aggressive.
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He fought a bunch of cans in Japan. He was overrated.
Wandy overrated ??? Holy fuck, is there anyone who fought in PRIDE who is not overrated to you? Wandy beat Rampage, who just gave Jones the hardest fight in his career. Was he overrated? He also beat Sakuraba, who even Dana White regards as the greatest middleweight ever. Was he overrated? Wandy in his prime was a monster, although that was probably the result of steroids. Maybe drug-free Wandy is overrated.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Wandy overrated ??? Holy fuck, is there anyone who fought in PRIDE who is not overrated to you? Wandy beat Rampage, who just gave Jones the hardest fight in his career. Was he overrated? He also beat Sakuraba, who even Dana White regards as the greatest middleweight ever. Was he overrated? Wandy in his prime was a monster, although that was probably the result of steroids. Maybe drug-free Wandy is overrated.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
mindspin clearly doesnt know jack shit about fighting
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MS does know his stuff he just seems to have a hatred of boxing,Fedor and Pride in general for some reason
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MS does know his stuff he just seems to have a hatred of boxing,Fedor and Pride in general for some reason
lol. you nailed it.
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Wandy overrated ??? Holy fuck, is there anyone who fought in PRIDE who is not overrated to you? Wandy beat Rampage, who just gave Jones the hardest fight in his career. Was he overrated? He also beat Sakuraba, who even Dana White regards as the greatest middleweight ever. Was he overrated? Wandy in his prime was a monster, although that was probably the result of steroids. Maybe drug-free Wandy is overrated.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
That was the hardest fight Jones ever had ??? Bonnar and Gusmao took him to a decision.
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I wouldn't say Jones has even had a hard fight from anyone. But, going to a decision would probably be the hardest if one had to pick.
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I wouldn't say Jones has even had a hard fight from anyone. But, going to a decision would probably be the hardest if one had to pick.
yep
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That was the hardest fight Jones ever had ??? Bonnar and Gusmao took him to a decision.
So? They couldn't even touch him. At least Rampage lended some shots and Jones' eye was black at the end of the fight. You can hold a guy in the clinch on the cage and take the fight to a decision without doing him any damage. Who gives a shit?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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So? They couldn't even touch him. At least Rampage lended some shots and Jones' eye was black at the end of the fight. You can hold a guy in the clinch on the cage and take the fight to a decision without doing him any damage. Who gives a shit?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You have pics of this?
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So? They couldn't even touch him. At least Rampage lended some shots and Jones' eye was black at the end of the fight. You can hold a guy in the clinch on the cage and take the fight to a decision without doing him any damage. Who gives a shit?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Black eye at the end of the fight? LOL. Let's see a pic please. The only damage Jones had, was to his feet, from kicking the shit out of Rampage.
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Lol, Mindspin still hasn't learned anything about 1 on 1 combat. Stick to bodybuilding dude, because you sure as fuck dont know sh!t about fighting :-\
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Lol, Mindspin still hasn't learned anything about 1 on 1 combat. Stick to bodybuilding dude, because you sure as fuck dont know sh!t about fighting :-\
Really? I've done nearly 10 BJJ matches (won 6). I train BJJ, wrestling & muay thai 5 days a week. I watch every UFC, StrikeForce, Bellator & MFC fight. I listen to 4-5 MMA podcasts and read every tidbit of MMA news. The last time I put on "posing" trunks was in 1996. Perhaps I'm not an "expert" but I know enough to be able to form a good opinion on any MMA topic...
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Really? I've done nearly 10 BJJ matches (won 6).
How do you do "nearly" 10? LOL!!
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Really? I've done nearly 10 BJJ matches (won 6). I train BJJ, wrestling & muay thai 5 days a week. I watch every UFC, StrikeForce, Bellator & MFC fight. I listen to 4-5 MMA podcasts and read every tidbit of MMA news. The last time I put on "posing" trunks was in 1996. Perhaps I'm not an "expert" but I know enough to be able to form a good opinion on any MMA topic...
lol. Ever been in a real fight in your life? Getting your nose smashed in, ribs broken from knees, arms broken from kicks, exhaustion, despair, nose smashed in.. again. MMA is brutal and you haven't got enough experience in it to be talking the way you do.
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How do you do "nearly" 10? LOL!!
For those mental vegetarians out there: I'm guessing that MS means 8 or 9 matches. "Nearly" means close to, or approximately. Hopefully this clears up anyone's confusion. I know the english language really has some zingers out there.
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lol. Ever been in a real fight in your life? Getting your nose smashed in, ribs broken from knees, arms broken from kicks, exhaustion, despair, nose smashed in.. again. MMA is brutal and you haven't got enough experience in it to be talking the way you do.
Actually I have gotten in more than my fair share of fights including being jumped by 7 guys at a high school part, dozens of fights in the water while surfing and plenty of sparring sessions that went a bit too far. But, what does being a a real fight have anything to do with being knowledgeable about MMA ???
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For those mental vegetarians out there: I'm guessing that MS means 8 or 9 matches. "Nearly" means close to, or approximately. Hopefully this clears up anyone's confusion. I know the english language really has some zingers out there.
If I count all of the matches I've had with my 8 & 10 yr old daughters then I've been in over 100 of them and my record is 99-1...eat that Fedor..lol.
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Actually I have gotten in more than my fair share of fights including being jumped by 7 guys at a high school part, dozens of fights in the water while surfing and plenty of sparring sessions that went a bit too far. But, what does being a a real fight have anything to do with being knowledgeable about MMA ???
just.... ::)
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For those mental vegetarians out there: I'm guessing that MS means 8 or 9 matches. "Nearly" means close to, or approximately. Hopefully this clears up anyone's confusion. I know the english language really has some zingers out there.
OK cocktrane, I can sense your sarcasm here.....what's the point of saying "nearly" instead of 8 or 9?
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They do make you way the fuck more aggressive.
Have you taken them before?
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Have you taken them before?
yep. There were days that I wanted to murder people just for looking at me.
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Have you taken them before?
CockSpin used to oil up and pose with a thong stuck up his ass and get a boner from having fags jack off looking at him. Of course he took steroids.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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CockSpin used to oil up and pose with a thong stuck up his ass and get a boner from having fags jack off looking at him. Of course he took steroids.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Bwahahahaha !
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CockSpin used to oil up and pose with a thong stuck up his ass and get a boner from having fags jack off looking at him. Of course he took steroids.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I do wish I had been bitten by the MMA bug before getting sucked in by bodybuilding. But for all of its faggotry, I did get a lot out of bodybuilding and I have no regrets.
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I do wish I had been bitten by the MMA bug before getting sucked in by bodybuilding. But for all of its faggotry, I did get a lot out of bodybuilding and I have no regrets.
There you have it, you'd never heard of a real fight before you saw it on TV. :-\
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There you have it, you'd never heard of a real fight before you saw it on TV. :-\
Huh? Because I was not an MMA fan I'd never heard of a real fight? LOL...you're a genius ::)
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Huh? Because I was not an MMA fan I'd never heard of a real fight? LOL...you're a genius ::)
How the fuck do you get bitten with an "MMA bug"?? Your either a fighter from the beginning or you're not its simple, you don't just one day decide you wanna be an Ultimate Fighter lol. And the way you judge fighting shows you have no clue what the hell is going on in the cage during any given fight, you're just watching to cheer on your favorite UFC 'hero' and ramble on about p4p rankings and your beloved and overrated GSP.
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How the fuck do you get bitten with an "MMA bug"?? Your either a fighter from the beginning or you're not its simple, you don't just one day decide you wanna be an Ultimate Fighter lol. And the way you judge fighting shows you have no clue what the hell is going on in the cage during any given fight, you're just watching to cheer on your favorite UFC 'hero' and ramble on about p4p rankings and your beloved and overrated GSP.
Honestly, stfu. All you do is bitch.
I didn't like mma until the first ufc I saw. That's when I was "bitten by the bug". I wasn't either a "fighter from the beginning" etc blah blah.
Enough with the bullshit waste of thread space already dude.
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Any discussion on this board is a complete waste of time, it always descends into personal attacks by the teams / gimmicks on both sides and completely diverts the subject matter way from its original intention. This board is truly pathetic at times.
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Honestly, stfu. All you do is bitch.
I didn't like mma until the first ufc I saw. That's when I was "bitten by the bug". I wasn't either a "fighter from the beginning" etc blah blah.
Enough with the bullshit waste of thread space already dude.
I was just making one of my monthly stops in on the MMA board, (which having a membership gives me privilege to do!) and pissed off at how its been hijacked by no nothing corporate brand logo fans who enforce their delusional bullshit opinions on getbig guests and visitors, daily. I have a god given right to bitch and whine about how this board is a desert wasteland ruined by ruthless TUFF fanatic dictators,,fuck ! I can't tolerate this shit anymore. Goodnight.
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Any discussion on this board is a complete waste of time, it always descends into personal attacks by the teams / gimmicks on both sides and completely diverts the subject matter way from its original intention. This board is truly pathetic at times.
Agreed. Either it's an attack on mindspin or smm or it's just plain stupidity.
That's why this board is losing valuable contributors. When was the last time Whorewell posted here?
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I was just making one of my monthly stops in on the MMA board, (which having a membership gives me privilege to do!) and pissed off at how its been hijacked by no nothing corporate brand logo fans who enforce their delusional bullshit opinions on getbig guests and visitors, daily. I have a god given right to bitch and whine about how this board is a desert wasteland ruined by ruthless TUFF fanatic dictators,,fuck ! I can't tolerate this shit anymore. Goodnight.
Then please do us all a favor and don't post here anymore. Go post your bullshit over at sherdog and see how long you last.
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Agreed. Either it's an attack on mindspin or smm or it's just plain stupidity.
That's why this board is losing valuable contributors. When was the last time Whorewell posted here?
The most valuable member of this board from what i could make out is Chuteboxe and even he doesn't frequent here much anymore. The result being that we are subjected to the same arguments over and over again from the same 3 - 4 members, and so this board is dead - this is a genuine shame as there is potential here for insightful discussions which people can contribute to in a positive way and learn a little more than what they know now.
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How the fuck do you get bitten with an "MMA bug"?? Your either a fighter from the beginning or you're not its simple, you don't just one day decide you wanna be an Ultimate Fighter lol. And the way you judge fighting shows you have no clue what the hell is going on in the cage during any given fight, you're just watching to cheer on your favorite UFC 'hero' and ramble on about p4p rankings and your beloved and overrated GSP.
Hey read this out loud - "I am we Todd it. I am sofa king we Todd it".
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Then please do us all a favor and don't post here anymore. Go post your bullshit over at sherdog and see how long you last.
Bahahaha!! Sherdog with the rest of you TUFFERs?? Try posting your delusional troll diarrhea on a real board MMA Linker or Weekly where REAL fighters actually post! You guys would get laughed at without a doubt and you know it! Which is why you choose to post this nonsense on a fucking bodybuilding board of all places where nobody cares! Why dont YOU get the fuck out of here and post on a real MMA board, and come back and tell us how your stupid theories went over with people that actually know their shit?! Please do it I really wanna hear about the brutal verbal stoning you'll get lol
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The most valuable member of this board from what i could make out is Chuteboxe and even he doesn't frequent here much anymore. The result being that we are subjected to the same arguments over and over again from the same 3 - 4 members, and so this board is dead - this is a genuine shame as there is potential here for insightful discussions which people can contribute to in a positive way and learn a little more than what they know now.
Chutebox is the ONLY knowledgeable fight fan i've seen post here :-\
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"Bill Anvil"
lol..
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Bahahaha!! Sherdog with the rest of you TUFFERs?? Try posting your delusional troll diarrhea on a real board MMA Linker or Weekly where REAL fighters actually post! You guys would get laughed at without a doubt and you know it! Which is why you choose to post this nonsense on a fucking bodybuilding board of all places where nobody cares! Why dont YOU get the fuck out of here and post on a real MMA board, and come back and tell us how your stupid theories went over with people that actually know their shit?! Please do it I really wanna hear about the brutal verbal stoning you'll get lol
I post on the underground and the Rogan board. What's your point?
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"Bill Anvil"
lol..
You got the joke Cocktrane good for you ! It was intended to make you laugh, good job!
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I post on the underground and the Rogan board. What's your point?
Post on the Linker or mmanews boards, you'll get laughed at with your crazy statements. If I wanted to talk about Rogans comedy shtick or getting cranked on DMT thats where I'd go. Go to a real MMA board.
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Post on the Linker or mmanews boards, you'll get laughed at with your crazy statements. If I wanted to talk about Rogans comedy shtick or getting cranked on DMT thats where I'd go. Go to a real MMA board.
There is no more legit board than the underground...
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There is no more legit board than the underground...
CockSpin, people would take you more seriously if you didn't say stupid things like Fedor and Wandy are overrated. They could have crushed as many tomato cans as they want and they would still not be overrated because you determine the skill ceiling of a fighter by the best they beat and not the worst. Fedor beat Big Nog, Crocop, Heath Herring, Goodrich, Semmy Shilt and Mark Hunt. Wandy beat Rampage and Sakuraba who even Dana White regards as the greatest middleweight ever. They were not overrated. They may be overrated now, but saying they were always overrated is ridiculous.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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CockSpin, people would take you more seriously if you didn't say stupid things like Fedor and Wandy are overrated. They could have ccrushed as many tomato cans as they want and they would still not be overrated because you determine the skill ceiling of a fighter by the best they beat and not the worst. Fedor beat Big Nog, Crocop, Heath Herring, Goodrich, Semmy Shilt and Mark Hunt. Wandy beat Rampage and Sakuraba who even Dana White regards as the greatest middleweight ever. They were not overrated. They may be overrated now, but saying they were always overrated is ridiculous.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
agreed bro! but it is human nature....
fedor was not defeated for what 10 years? beat some of the best in their prime!
the guy looses 3 fights and is regarded overrated... lol!
the 3 fights he lost were not even that bad of fights! had some bad luck....
against werdum was his own fault, thinking toooo easy and was impatient.
the fight against the giant head, well that was a bit of an off day i think. but still he was stopped by the ref, not a loss in my book.....
against hendo, man he looked better allready, just he got ktfo, happens you know in fights... lol!
he will be back i think , his problem is more mental then physical...
and wandy.. well..... you do not get a name like axe murderer easy! legend!!, whatever fight he looses from now on does not change that!
calling guys like that overrated.... hell if you fight in the ufc you are good! period!
to get to pro level you are allready a amateur champ!
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CockSpin, people would take you more seriously if you didn't say stupid things like Fedor and Wandy are overrated. They could have ccrushed as many tomato cans as they want and they would still not be overrated because you determine the skill ceiling of a fighter by the best they beat and not the worst. Fedor beat Big Nog, Crocop, Heath Herring, Goodrich, Semmy Shilt and Mark Hunt. Wandy beat Rampage and Sakuraba who even Dana White regards as the greatest middleweight ever. They were not overrated. They may be overrated now, but saying they were always overrated is ridiculous.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Dont even get into it with him SMM, hes made up his narrow mind about a sport he clearly doesnt quite understand. He`s also relatively knew to the sport and openly disagrees with many pro fighters`opinions.
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A great example of being labelled overrated is Igor. People only remember him being knocked out viciously by Crocop, and neglect to remember the world class killing machine he was for most of his career. He seemed to peak too early, once he hit his late 20's he just wasnt the same guy.
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A great example of being labelled overrated is Igor. People only remember him being knocked out viciously by Crocop, and neglect to remember the world class killing machine he was for most of his career. He seemed to peak too early, once he hit his late 20's he just wasnt the same guy.
Mindspin probably has no idea what that guy was all about. Igor was an animal in his time, and to this day has the hardest punch i've ever seen and the dude was seriously tough too. Always up for a fight, no time limit, bare knuckle you name it. Love to see him fight GSP in a NHB fight ;D Overrated to the TUFFERs on here though! .. :D
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Mindspin probably has no idea what that guy was all about. Igor was an animal in his time, and to this day has the hardest punch i've ever seen and the dude was seriously tough too. Always up for a fight, no time limit, bare knuckle you name it. Love to see him fight GSP in a NHB fight ;D Overrated to the TUFFERs on here though! .. :D
Near 40 fight in streak against some decent opposition too, the man as born to put people to sleep. He fought a good 30lbs+ over what he should have too, and yet he as one of the nicest people you could meet outside of the ring.
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Near 40 fight in streak against some decent opposition too, the man as born to put people to sleep. He fought a good 30lbs+ over what he should have too, and yet he as one of the nicest people you could meet outside of the ring.
Amen.
I think he hurt his knuckles to the point of not being able to hit like he used to, so he started to become more of a grappler than a puncher hence his downfall.. :-\
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A great example of being labelled overrated is Igor. People only remember him being knocked out viciously by Crocop, and neglect to remember the world class killing machine he was for most of his career. He seemed to peak too early, once he hit his late 20's he just wasnt the same guy.
Agreed. That fight where he put Mark Kerr to sleep was the greatest MMA fight ever. Igor was much more powerful than his frame suggests.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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X2!!
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Īgor was the bomb. For his height he has an extremely solid build - otherwise he couldn't have hung with the really big dudes.
After 55 wins he's a only minimaly overrated.