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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 20, 2011, 12:25:19 PM
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The lastest polls from Real Clear Politics on Obama VS the Republican Candidates. As I've stated numerous times, the Tea Party has terrorized the GOP so far right that it makes them unattractive to moderates and undecided folks. If they keep the steering wheel that far locked, then its a done deal. This poll is amazing despite the fact that Obama has hardly done any campaigning whatsoever.
It also demonstrates that yelling and screaming and name calling does not win elections...and never will
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
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The lastest polls from Real Clear Politics on Obama VS the Republican Candidates. As I've stated numerous times, the Tea Party has terrorized the GOP so far right that it makes them unattractive to moderates and undecided folks. If they keep the steering wheel that far locked, then its a done deal. This poll is amazing despite the fact that Obama has hardly done any campaigning whatsoever.
It also demonstrates that yelling and screaming and name calling does not win elections...and never will
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
That's good because many undecided and moderates might come Ron Paul's way then.
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Forget Paul....he comes across as whiny and weak.
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Absolutely not. If the election were held tommorow he would get destroyed.
He is at 35 percent in pa and underewater in many states he needs.
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That's good because many undecided and moderates might come Ron Paul's way then.
which won't mean anything unless he gets the Repub nomination (you know that won't happen) or runs as in independent
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Bama is on track to lose florida, ohio, nv, nc, and possibly pennsylvania. He is grossly unpopular in new york and many deep blue states as well. I posted a well detailed article in the reelection thread going over the numbers. With his present ratings, we would get landslided.
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Rob Paul will not get any kind of nomination...he polls well in some area's but gets destroyed on election day. He makes money and stays around long enough to drag the primary races out. This will come down to Perry and Obama if nobody new gets in. Perry hasn't even begun to get rolling. He's not the ideal candidate but for the Right he's better then we've had in a long time. Obama was the ideal guy for libs and he's sunk the country. Does anybody think Clinton would have done this had she got in. We're a center right nation...gove from the center and u can maintain power. If Perry has centrist views on things that some Repubs don'r like, so what. He's more Right then Bush was and his record in Texas is better the Barry's is nationwide. Its still way early.
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Yeah, a guy who tripled his state's deficit is the right guy for America now.
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No such thing as the right guy for america. We need someone, anyone to oust obama and at least put a halt to the flash mob admn.
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No such thing as the right guy for america. We need someone, anyone to oust obama and at least put a halt to the flash mob admn.
That's the kind of thinking that got us Obama. So no way.
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Yeah, a guy who tripled his state's deficit is the right guy for America now.
Headhunter does not care about deficits or spending, only war and Perry will make sure we keep fighting them.
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Hey Vince, why don't you tell us why YOU think Obama should be reelected, and provide specifics. Good luck with that, by the way.
How anyone can support this guy when his own strategists have even admitted that he can't run on his record is beyond me. If you can't run on your record then you are a FAILURE.
As long as the GOP doesn't nominate someone the MSM will have an easy time taking down then as of right now Obama is done.
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Headhunter does not care about deficits or spending, only war and Perry will make sure we keep fighting them.
You have to be some kind of moron. First off u abandoned America anyway so it really doesn't matter does it. I never said I'm voting for Perry but he's better then Obama and electable unlike Ron Joke. I care about spending on what matters and defense happens to be a Constitutional mandate....not a fan of war but what would u know about that anyway.
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You have to be some kind of moron. First off u abandoned America anyway so it really doesn't matter does it. I never said I'm voting for Perry but he's better then Obama and electable unlike Ron Joke. I care about spending on what matters and defense happens to be a Constitutional mandate....not a fan of war but what would u know about that anyway.
Just curious, what do you think about Eisenhower's farewell address?
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Hey vince - my bet is that bama won't even run for a second term. His syate by state numbers are horrific.
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Just curious, what do you think about Eisenhower's farewell address?
Again u display a remarkably shallow grasp of history...."A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction". Eisenhower felt the Military Industrial Complex was necessary but a balance must be struck. He was against any interest intruding on the limited scope of government. He found communism and the struggle against it to be in America's best interest. Its funny how certain people cherry pick this speech.
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Rob Paul will not get any kind of nomination...he polls well in some area's but gets destroyed on election day. He makes money and stays around long enough to drag the primary races out.
You obviously hate Ron Paul.
:)
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I think its funny who supports this guy. He's as popular with the hate America crowd as he is with libertarians.
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I think its funny who supports this guy. He's as popular with the hate America crowd as he is with libertarians.
Also, unfortunately for him, a disproportionate number of his supporters are 911 Troofers.
And if you look at the actual results from 2008 and his polling since then, his ceiling is about 10 percent. He's never going to be president.
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Obama approval rating in PA plummets to … 35% (Re-elect number: 36%)
Hotair ^ | 08/20/2011 | Ed Morrisey
Posted on August 20, 2011 9:33:16 PM EDT by SeekAndFind
In Pennsylvania, Democrats enjoy a substantial registration advantage over Republicans, going well into double digits. For Democratic presidential contenders, this makes the Keystone State a must-win in a general election; there are few paths to the White House for a Democrat that don’t pass through Pennsylvania. In 2010, Republicans took control of the state government and won the US Senate seat when Democratic turnout failed to materialize, only edging Republicans by three points in exit polling.
A new poll from Muhlenberg College suggests that Democrats might perform even worse in 2012 — and that Barack Obama may lose Pennsylvania big (h/t Curioser_Georg on Twitter):
President Barack Obama, who political experts say will need a win in Pennsylvania to retain the White House, dipped to 35 percent approval among the state’s registered voters, according to a Muhlenberg College poll released Friday. …
In the Muhlenberg surveys alone, Obama has dropped more than 10 percentage points in less than six months. In March, he held steady with 48 percent. In April 2009, a few months after he started and just after the stimulus bill was passed, Obama was at 61 percent approval in the state.
In the beginning of this month, a Quinnipiac poll had Obama at a 43/54 approval rating and a virtual tie with … Rick Santorum. His re-elect number was slightly lower than that, at 42%, and the best Obama could do in head-to-head matchups was a 47% against Michele Bachmann in the state. It’s even worse in the Muhlenberg College poll:
If there is any silver lining in the poll for Obama, it’s that 31 percent of Pennsylvanians say their vote in November 2012 will depend on who the Republican candidate is. And Obama still slightly edges out an anonymous GOP contender 36 percent to 31 percent.
That’s not a silver lining, it’s a pair of lead electoral shoes. In politics, we have a term for incumbents who can only get 36% in re-elect polls: former officeholders. Voters already know the incumbents, which is why undecideds break heavily towards challengers. In a deep-blue state like Pennsylvania, a 36% is going to mean a blowout for Obama in all the wrong ways.
Granted, this is a smallish sample of 380 registered voters (not the more conservative likely voters), but for a statewide sample, it’s acceptable if not robust. I don’t think anyone from Obama’s team was complaining in March when the same pollster found a 48/44 approval rating. This is a big warning sign for Obama’s re-election chances, especially if the economy remains stuck in stagnation. And if Obama’s doing this badly, Republicans have an opportunity to win back the Senate seat they lost to Bob Casey, Jr in 2006.
Update: In late 2010, Democrats had a 50.9/36.9 registration advantage over Republicans, which is why I called it a “deep-blue state.” It’s one of the largest affiliation advantages Democrats have in the country — but it’s primarily comprised of the white, working-class voters recoiling this year from Obama’s economic policies and performance. These were the Hillary Clinton voters in 2008 that Obama called “bitter clingers” and lost in the primary.
One and done and back to Kenya.
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Again u display a remarkably shallow grasp of history...."A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction". Eisenhower felt the Military Industrial Complex was necessary but a balance must be struck. He was against any interest intruding on the limited scope of government. He found communism and the struggle against it to be in America's best interest. Its funny how certain people cherry pick this speech.
THANK YOU. That was one of the best posts in this board ever. Its nice to know Im not the only one who doesnt overinterpret that speech.
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The military is one f the only things I don't mind tax money going to.
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Intrade Now Pricing Greater Than 50% Chance Obama Will Not Be Reelected
It appears that in the aftermath of the recent update of Obama's job approval polls which as we reported just hit an all time low, the market has formally priced in a 50%+ probability that the president will be limited to just one-term. According to the latest InTrade odds, Obama's chance of being reelected in 2012 is now at its all time low, or 48.5% after soaring to a high of 70% back in May in the aftermath of the Bin Laden death at sea. This result however is far from conclusive: InTrade 2012 presidential odds for Rick Perry have risen, but only to 18.5%, Palin is at 5.5%, and Ron Paul's chances are at 3.2% (Bachmann is at 2.5%). So there certainly is some arbitrage to be made
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The military is one f the only things I don't mind tax money going to.
Wait, a month back you wanted to reduce the size of the military by 50% over the next 5 years.
Have you flip flopped?
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Intrade Now Pricing Greater Than 50% Chance Obama Will Not Be Reelected
Mccain led briefly on INTRADE after choosing Palin. There was a thread on getbig about it. I watched intrade a lot last time... Obama was at 60 or higher a lot of the time. But there was that moment (I actually TRIED to buy from it - but it seems US Citizens can't, so I gave up on it) when Mccain had 52% or something.
I knew Palin wouldn't last 3 minutes in an interview with a lightweight like Couric... I tried to buy, no dice!
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Wait, a month back you wanted to reduce the size of the military by 50% over the next 5 years.
Have you flip flopped?
No, we need to cut everything out of fiscal necessity, not that I want to.
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Mccain led briefly on INTRADE after choosing Palin. There was a thread on getbig about it. I watched intrade a lot last time... Obama was at 60 or higher a lot of the time. But there was that moment (I actually TRIED to buy from it - but it seems US Citizens can't, so I gave up on it) when Mccain had 52% or something.
I knew Palin wouldn't last 3 minutes in an interview with a lightweight like Couric... I tried to buy, no dice!
Obama is not even going to run at this rate.
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Obama is not even going to run at this rate.
You don't get it do you. The approval ratings may be down but it doesn't mean that people are going to vote for the other person. The RCP stats show Obama being every GOP contender by a sizable margin without any campaigning or ads and it will widen once there's only one left since that will be the time were all the ads come out. And its all because the Tea Party has turned the GOP into a complete hard right joke.
In order to win, the GOP will need to distance themselves from the Tea Party Movement. People are getting sick and tired of their anarchist terrorism and disruption of the legislative system.
BTW, you comment about Obama not running is just plain stupid. Of course he's running
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Yeah ok. No potus has ever gotten elected with his hideous record. One and done.
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:o