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Then where do the neanderthals (cave men) fit in? Please enlighten me. Do not move this to the religion board, because nobody will read it there.
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god works in mysterious ways
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Then where do the neanderthals (cave men) fit in? Please enlighten me. Do not move this to the religion board, because nobody will read it there.
You'll never make it as a getbigger if you cant answer simple questions like this one. QFT
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You'll never make it as a getbigger if you cant answer simple questions like this one. QFT
LOL
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Then where do the neanderthals (cave men) fit in? Please enlighten me. Do not move this to the religion board, because nobody will read it there.
...then Neanderthals weren't humans. Which is correct. End of thread.
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...then Neanderthals weren't humans. Which is correct. End of thread.
So you are saying we had Adam and Eve, which are depicted as human as we are today, created before an ape/human hybrid? Why would god do this? Did Adam and Eve have to fend off T-Rex in the garden of eden?
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if your an atheist then you certainly must not believe that the bible is the word of god. so why, as an atheist, do you use passages from the bible in order to argue against the idea of a God?
its very stupid thinking
the answer is that the bible is obviously not the word of god. its just a book written by men who were doing their best to compile their ancestors stories in a way that they thought would best represent what god would want them to write.
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if your an atheist then you certainly must not believe that the bible is the word of god. so why, as an atheist, do you use passages from the bible in order to argue against the idea of a God?
its very stupid thinking
the answer is that the bible is obviously not the word of god. its just a book written by men who were doing their best to compile their ancestors stories in a way that they thought would best represent what god would want them to write.
lol
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if your an atheist then you certainly must not believe that the bible is the word of god. so why, as an atheist, do you use passages from the bible in order to argue against the idea of a God?
its very stupid thinking
the answer is that the bible is obviously not the word of god. its just a book written by men who were doing their best to compile their ancestors stories in a way that they thought would best represent what god would want them to write.
I agree with this statement, and I will add to it by saying man created "god" in order to try to explain things they couldn't comprehend thousands of years ago. Jesus could have been nothing more then a "cult" leader. I don't have "faith" simply because I am scared of being judged upon death.
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I agree with this statement, and I will add to it by saying man created "god" in order to try to explain things they couldn't comprehend thousands of years ago. Jesus could have been nothing more then a "cult" leader. I don't have "faith" simply because I am scared of being judged upon death.
if you agree that the bible isnt the word of god then why are you using ideas from the bible in your justification that there isnt a god?
your being an idiot
your last line, was that supposed to be sarcastic?
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if you agree that the bible isnt the word of god then why are you using ideas from the bible in your justification that there isnt a god?
your being an idiot
your last line, was that supposed to be sarcastic?
You're = you are.. I have tried to tell you this like 20 times. Tard
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You're = you are.. I have tried to tell you this like 20 times. Tard
if your so interested in correcting peoples spelling and grammar mistakes go to a literature forum jackass
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if your so interested in correcting peoples spelling and grammar mistakes go to a literature forum jackass
Jesus, a lost cause. Get an education!!!
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if your so interested in correcting peoples spelling and grammar mistakes go to a literature forum jackass
Here is an example. Perhaps you learn only from examples. You're the biggest retard on this site.
HTH
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if you agree that the bible isnt the word of god then why are you using ideas from the bible in your justification that there isnt a god?
your being an idiot
your last line, was that supposed to be sarcastic?
I use things from the bible to prove how rediculous they are. Most people are "scared" into believing in god, heaven etc.... I don't know what the meaning in life is, and neither does anyone else. Belief in a "god" or "gods" is universal to every civilization on this planet. Belief in "jesus" is christianity. What makes Christians better than Muslims, or Hindi's, or Buddhists? Does everyone get to go to their version of heaven? You start to realise how stupid this all starts to sound.
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Here is an example. Perhaps you learn only from examples. You're the biggest retard on this site.
HTH
your obsessed. get a life
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your obsessed. get a life
You're unteachable. Too many chromosones?
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I use things from the bible to prove how rediculous they are. Most people are "scared" into believing in god, heaven etc.... I don't know what the meaning in life is, and neither does anyone else. Belief in a "god" or "gods" is universal to every civilization on this planet. Belief in "jesus" is christianity. What makes Christians better than Muslims, or Hindi's, or Buddhists? Does everyone get to go to their version of heaven? You start to realise how stupid this all starts to sound.
your right, belief that any scripture is the word of god is stupid.
but dont confuse a belief in scripture with a belief in god. the two are not inextricably tied together.
understand that god, if he exists, does not talk to anyone nor did he leave us any guidebook. and that the rules he established at the beginning are the same for everyone regardless of whatever religion they chose to follow while on earth.
thats a very simple concept to understand yet so many atheists use try to use the same argument " so if chirstians are right then the rest go to hell? what if the muslims were right does that mean all christians go to hell" blah blah blah. nonssensical bullshit is what that is.
also understand that if god exists he is perfect and benevolent and that revenge is a course of action for the emotionally weak and cowardly, it serves no legit purpouse, and therefore no such thing can possibly exist. if god exists we all go to heaven, plain and simple. it just might take some longer than others to get there is all.
and on a final note.. why are christians better than muslims? well christians look up to a man who supposedly commited no sin, who never laid a hand on anyone, who preached a perfect message of only love and nnothing else, a man who was tortured for his beliefs and did nothing to stop it. while muslims look up to a man who waged wars in order to spread his religion, a man who promoted violence against dissidents, a man who says god wants us to oppress and force people into certain behaviors .. something completely illogical considering it was god himself who gave us the free will to behave as we wish.
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your right, belief that any scripture is the word of god is stupid.
but dont confuse a belief in scripture with a belief in god. the two are not inextricably tied together.
understand that god, if he exists, does not talk to anyone nor did he leave us any guidebook. and that the rules he established at the beginning are the same for everyone regardless of whatever religion they chose to follow while on earth.
thats a very simple concept to understand yet so many atheists use try to use the same argument " so if chirstians are right then the rest go to hell? what if the muslims were right does that mean all christians go to hell" blah blah blah. nonssensical bullshit is what that is.
also understand that if god exists he is perfect and benevolent and that revenge is a course of action for the emotionally weak and cowardly, it serves no legit purpouse, and therefore no such thing can possibly exist. if god exists we all go to heaven, plain and simple. it just might take some longer than others to get there is all.
and on a final note.. why are christians better than muslims? well christians look up to a man who supposedly commited no sin, who never laid a hand on anyone, who preached a perfect message of only love and nnothing else, a man who was tortured for his beliefs and did nothing to stop it. while muslims look up to a man who waged wars in order to spread his religion, a man who promoted violence against dissidents, a man who says god wants us to oppress and force people into certain behaviors .. something completely illogical considering it was god himself who gave us the free will to behave as we wish.
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Why all of a sudden when "jesus" popped up, did homosexuality become a sin? It was a widely accepted practice during ancient times. I'm sure many a Get-bigger would love to take a hot tub time machine back to ancient Greece, or Rome to have all of the gay buttsex they desired.
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Why all of a sudden when "jesus" popped up, did homosexuality become a sin? It was a widely accepted practice during ancient times. I'm sure many a Get-bigger would love to take a hot tub time machine back to ancient Greece, or Rome to have all of the gay buttsex they desired.
jesus did not condemn homosexuality, christians find versus from elsewhere in the bible to justify that belief.
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your right, belief that any scripture is the word of god is stupid.
but dont confuse a belief in scripture with a belief in god. the two are not inextricably tied together.
understand that god, if he exists, does not talk to anyone nor did he leave us any guidebook. and that the rules he established at the beginning are the same for everyone regardless of whatever religion they chose to follow while on earth.
thats a very simple concept to understand yet so many atheists use try to use the same argument " so if chirstians are right then the rest go to hell? what if the muslims were right does that mean all christians go to hell" blah blah blah. nonssensical bullshit is what that is.
also understand that if god exists he is perfect and benevolent and that revenge is a course of action for the emotionally weak and cowardly, it serves no legit purpouse, and therefore no such thing can possibly exist. if god exists we all go to heaven, plain and simple. it just might take some longer than others to get there is all.
and on a final note.. why are christians better than muslims? well christians look up to a man who supposedly commited no sin, who never laid a hand on anyone, who preached a perfect message of only love and nnothing else, a man who was tortured for his beliefs and did nothing to stop it. while muslims look up to a man who waged wars in order to spread his religion, a man who promoted violence against dissidents, a man who says god wants us to oppress and force people into certain behaviors .. something completely illogical considering it was god himself who gave us the free will to behave as we wish.
I only agree with one word of that drivel: "If". That is the word that everyone needs to grasp. Nothing is certain. "Faith" is not fact.
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your right, belief that any scripture is the word of god is stupid.
but dont confuse a belief in scripture with a belief in god. the two are not inextricably tied together.
understand that god, if he exists, does not talk to anyone nor did he leave us any guidebook. and that the rules he established at the beginning are the same for everyone regardless of whatever religion they chose to follow while on earth.
thats a very simple concept to understand yet so many atheists use try to use the same argument " so if chirstians are right then the rest go to hell? what if the muslims were right does that mean all christians go to hell" blah blah blah. nonssensical bullshit is what that is.
also understand that if god exists he is perfect and benevolent and that revenge is a course of action for the emotionally weak and cowardly, it serves no legit purpouse, and therefore no such thing can possibly exist. if god exists we all go to heaven, plain and simple. it just might take some longer than others to get there is all.
and on a final note.. why are christians better than muslims? well christians look up to a man who supposedly commited no sin, who never laid a hand on anyone, who preached a perfect message of only love and nnothing else, a man who was tortured for his beliefs and did nothing to stop it. while muslims look up to a man who waged wars in order to spread his religion, a man who promoted violence against dissidents, a man who says god wants us to oppress and force people into certain behaviors .. something completely illogical considering it was god himself who gave us the free will to behave as we wish.
The Crusades called, they want you to shut up.
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The Crusades called, they want you to shut up.
that wasnt advocated by christ and the term "christian" does not imply the person supports the crusades jackass.
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that wasnt advocated by christ and the term "christian" does not imply the person supports the crusades jackass.
I can't imagine anyone debating with someone who doesn't know how to properly use the word "your".
LOL - what a tard
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I only agree with one word of that drivel: "If". That is the word that everyone needs to grasp. Nothing is certain. "Faith" is not fact.
and thats the way god wants it :)
I can't imagine anyone debating with someone who doesn't know how to properly use the word "your".
LOL - what a tard
context, not syntax, is what constitutes an intelligent idea. if your too simple to interpret the message when minor errors in grammar are present, you should be working on the basic instead of concerning yourself with the analysis of arguments.
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If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth, then we're ALL screwing our cousin.
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If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth, then we're ALL screwing our cousin.
Its all relative in Georgia! Right Jimmy? ;D
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If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth, then we're ALL screwing our cousin.
thats a truism whether the earth is 3000 years old or 6 billion.
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that wasnt advocated by christ and the term "christian" does not imply the person supports the crusades jackass.
No shit sherlock. "Christians" have murdered more people in the name of god, than any other religion in history.
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jesus did not condemn homosexuality, christians find versus verses from elsewhere in the bible to justify that belief.
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No shit sherlock. "Christians" have murdered more people in the name of god, than any other religion in history.
so what. correlation does not equal causation.
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You're unteachable. Too many chromosones?
Your really beating a dead horse there
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Your really beating a dead horse there
Lol.
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Your really beating a dead horse there
I don't even know if your serious ::)
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Only on US forums this is seriously debated...sigh
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Lol.
I just got that! :D
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Only on US forums this is seriously debated...sigh
Please tell us more..... I am interested to hear your point of view
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Creationists hahaha :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lololol
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tdongz parents kept him in sunday school for way too long...instead of real school. ...wasted youth
Where does god stand on homosexuality?
Where does the bible stand on cocksucking?
Which do you subscribe to?
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Getbig is going down the shitter...how come nobody replied to tdongz "god created adam & eve ...NOT adam & steve"
Hahahahaha!!!!
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and on a final note.. why are christians better than muslims? well christians look up to a man who supposedly commited no sin, who never laid a hand on anyone, who preached a perfect message of only love and nnothing else, a man who was tortured for his beliefs and did nothing to stop it. while muslims look up to a man who waged wars in order to spread his religion, a man who promoted violence against dissidents, a man who says god wants us to oppress and force people into certain behaviors .. something completely illogical considering it was god himself who gave us the free will to behave as we wish.
that is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever read. i would suggest that you actually do some research before making ignorant comments. you can start with this documentary on the life of the prophet. i think it originally aired on pbs or the history channel...
i have read the Quran and and it clearly says, "let there be no compulsion in religion". it teaches it's followers to share religion with non believers but never under any form of oppression or violence.
"Invite all to the way of your lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and reason with them in the most courteous manner. Indeed, your lord is most knowing of who has strayed from his path, and those who are rightly guided." ~ Quran 16:125
and Jesus preached a message of only love? ::)
"But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” ~ Luke 19:27
Those are the words of jesus.
the fact is that all the messengers and prophets of God, from moses, abraham, jesus, to muhammad, came with the same basic message....worship God alone and do no associate partners with him, follow his laws to the best of your ability, and when you fall short of that repent to him and ask for forgiveness.
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and Jesus preached a message of only love? ::)
"But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” ~ Luke 19:27
Those are the words of jesus.
I haven't read all of this thread but are you saying you believe that in that verse that at that moment Jesus commanded people to slaughter others in front of Him or do you realize that verse is within a parable?
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so what. correlation does not equal causation.
Only in 99 % of the cases it does.
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that is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever read. i would suggest that you actually do some research before making ignorant comments. you can start with this documentary on the life of the prophet. i think it originally aired on pbs or the history channel...
i have read the Quran and and it clearly says, "let there be no compulsion in religion". it teaches it's followers to share religion with non believers but never under any form of oppression or violence.
"Invite all to the way of your lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and reason with them in the most courteous manner. Indeed, your lord is most knowing of who has strayed from his path, and those who are rightly guided." ~ Quran 16:125
and Jesus preached a message of only love? ::)
"But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” ~ Luke 19:27
Those are the words of jesus.
the fact is that all the messengers and prophets of God, from moses, abraham, jesus, to muhammad, came with the same basic message....worship God alone and do no associate partners with him, follow his laws to the best of your ability, and when you fall short of that repent to him and ask for forgiveness.
you must have only read the beginning of the quaran, and skipped the second half. he began preaching only peace, love, etc. but when met with resistance he started to preach violence against dissenters as a means to an end allah would approve of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_Muhammad
^^ theres a little information on muhammads advocating and taking part in violence.
apologists of islam claim that muhammad only fought when necessary, and cite his rules of war in the quaran which explicitly say to keep the loss of life at a minimum. even so, he is advocating violence.even if only for self defense, violence is not the way of God.
compare muhammads message of violence when necessary to the message jesus brought "if one slaps you on your left cheek, turn to him your right". if you dont understand, that means if someone wrongs you, or uses violence against you, do not retaliate, but show them the love in your heart by making yourself even more vulnerable to another attack. that is how you promote the glory of god.
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Only in 99 % of the cases it does.
your not thinking that through. correlation does not in any way imply or hint towards causation. for example, i am breathing as i type this. the t.v. in the other room is turned on and so is this computer im using. you replied to my post and somewhere in indonesia somebody sneezed at the same time. all of those things are correlated. yet there is no direct connection. in the case of "christians" using violence during the crusades, and the argument that it must be christianity which promotes violence since christians were reponsible for all that violence, you need to have something connecting a belief in the message christ brought to the tendency to use violence. there is no such link, christ was strongly against any use of violence.
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I haven't read all of this thread but are you saying you believe that in that verse that at that moment Jesus commanded people to slaughter others in front of Him or do you realize that verse is within a parable?
yes i do...i didn't post that trying to make jesus out to be some type of tyrant king...but he wasn't just about peace and love either...that verse also applies to what will happen when he returns.
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yes i do...i didn't post that trying to make jesus out to be some type of tyrant king...but he wasn't just about peace and love either...that verse also applies to what will happen when he returns.
i looked into it and its very unlikely jesus actually said those words. remember, there are several different books on jesus life, each written by a different apostle. each book has alot of similarities but they have minor differences. we can only guess which apostles got the words and stories entirely accurate. luke was written later than all the other books, so he had less chance of accurately recalling the words said, and no other apostle included those words in their book.
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The Crusades called, they want you to shut up.
I always lol when someone brings up the Crusades. They always neglect to mention the decades of rape, torture and murder of Christians by Muslims which was the instigating reason the Crusades started, as a defensive retaliation against years of Muslims killing every Christian they could get their hands on.
Go read a book.
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If god created Adam and Eve as the first humans on earth, then we're ALL screwing our cousin.
that applies to any theory you go with,
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i looked into it and its very unlikely jesus actually said those words. remember, there are several different books on jesus life, each written by a different apostle. each book has alot of similarities but they have minor differences. we can only guess which apostles got the words and stories entirely accurate. luke was written later than all the other books, so he had less chance of accurately recalling the words said, and no other apostle included those words in their book.
The truth
The bible is god's biography, not a legal document, if you don't get this you are stuck in a child's view of religion.
The bible to me for me is just a way to understand god based on tradition/belief, while science is a way to understand god based on logic/reaso, there both equally important. The idea that there opposed to each other is an western construct. So to answer the question the bible was written by prophets who would of had little interest in neaderthals.
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Well scientists that believe in the big bang, agree that they have no clue what caused the big bang.
I am far from religious, and simply looking at the two popular options:
Option 1: World is billions or trillions of years old, was started by a big bang, that resulted overtime in a perfect cycle of planets and stars for earth to be possible and gradually resulted in the creation of life all the way till it turned into a human.
Option 2: A god that was always here that has no creator, created all this. (believing in 1 god is easier than 2 gods).
To me the god story is way better, its easier for me to believe that there is a god than to believe everything just happened on its own.
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The whole religion thing is bullshit and the bible is the best promotional/marketing book ever. Just my 2 cents...
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Well scientists that believe in the big bang, agree that they have no clue what caused the big bang.
I am far from religious, and simply looking at the two popular options:
Option 1: World is billions or trillions of years old, was started by a big bang, that resulted overtime in a perfect cycle of planets and stars for earth to be possible and gradually resulted in the creation of life all the way till it turned into a human.
Option 2: A god that was always here that has no creator, created all this. (believing in 1 god is easier than 2 gods).
To me the god story is way better, its easier for me to believe that there is a god than to believe everything just happened on its own.
exactly. there are other things that can make belief quite easy as well. like the impossibility of solid substance due to its inherent infinite divisibility. and free will. none of us know for sure, outspoken theists who go around spouting off as if they know for certain are just as ignorant as atheists who mock believers. God didnt intend us to know anything for certain.
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In Genesis chapter 6; there is mention of "giants" or nephilum. Half human and half angel (evil angel)
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Then where do the neanderthals (cave men) fit in? Please enlighten me. Do not move this to the religion board, because nobody will read it there.
they don't ! they were made up by the pc brigade in an attempt to destoy god.. they also claim that we all evolved from apes and africans :-X
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The whole religion thing is bullshit and the bible is the best promotional/marketing book ever. Just my 2 cents...
There is the old testament, the new testament, the qur'an, the mahabharata and many other religious books / guides / history of humanity scrolls.
When I talk to say a Muslim or Jewish person and they talk with 100% certainty on how their method the the right method etc, I ask them, hypothetically if they where born into a family that lead another religious belief wouldn't they believe that that's the real belief system?
I feel as humans we should respect everyone regardless what they believe, no god, yes god, 5 gods, anunaki, whatever. As long as its not hurting you who cares.
Only thing I wish is that the camera should of been invented whenever the world started.
The more I read about the planets, stars, the cycle of earth, the moon and sun, the more it just amazes me, I have a hard-time believing it just happened on its own, BUT this doesn't mean I have an answer.
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they don't ! they were made up by the pc brigade in an attempt to destoy god.. they also claim that we all evolved from apes and africans :-X
Evolution doesn't state that homo sapiens evolved from apes, only that modern apes and man had a common anscestor.
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In Genesis chapter 6; there is mention of "giants" or nephilum. Half human and half angel (evil angel)
Genesis 6:4 (Translated from the old testament) The titans were on the earth in those days and also later. The sons of God had come to the daughters of man and had fathered them. [The titans] were the mightiest ones who ever existed, men of renown.
In the bible itself it doesn't call them evil directly although its mixed in the part where god decides to destroy it all, in the book of enoch it goes into more details as to this story etc.
In Numbers 13:33 once again there is a reference to giants. Its also accepted that og king of bashan was a giant, depending what story you believe, he was 13 - 40ft tall.
One thing needs answers, and that is how in the world did the ancients build all these mega structures, the story of pulling 50 ton rocks with ropes and cutting it with butter knifes just doesn't add up.
But if we had a period on this planet with 40ft humans, then moving large rocks starts making more sense. BUT, where it doesn't make sense is, they build the rooms etc for regular height people lol, unless they where simply helping the little guy.
More questions than answers, and almost all answers lead to more questions.
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Evolution doesn't state that homo sapiens evolved from apes, only that modern apes and man had a common anscestor.
This doesn't go against the bible that much, let me explain. In Genesis 1:26 God said, 'Let us make man with our image and likeness.
Age old question is "who is god talking to?" The most accepted answer is that he was talking to all the things he created up until that point, therefore a human has elements of everything alive, fruits, animals etc, a big mix of everything. Others say he walk talking to the angels, yet at what point did he create them?
SO going with the most accepted theory, we did come from animals in a way, he created us by mixing a whole bunch of things together.
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you must have only read the beginning of the quaran, and skipped the second half. he began preaching only peace, love, etc. but when met with resistance he started to preach violence against dissenters as a means to an end allah would approve of.
apologists of islam claim that muhammad only fought when necessary, and cite his rules of war in the quaran which explicitly say to keep the loss of life at a minimum. even so, he is advocating violence.even if only for self defense, violence is not the way of God.
compare muhammads message of violence when necessary to the message jesus brought "if one slaps you on your left cheek, turn to him your right". if you dont understand, that means if someone wrongs you, or uses violence against you, do not retaliate, but show them the love in your heart by making yourself even more vulnerable to another attack. that is how you promote the glory of god.
i have read the entire text numerous times. it is correct that the prophet engaged in violence but only when it was absolutely necessary. there were many more instances showing his forgiveness and mercy. the quran says that violence is only permissible when it is done as an act of self defense. there are very specific passages about the rules on engagement during battles. for example, if your enemy has killed thousands of your men and you have only killed a few, the moment they stop you must also stop. it also states that if you kill just one innocent person it is if you have killed all of humanity. unlike jesus, muhammad was a statesman as well as a religious leader. nothing about his life showed him to be some type of a war monger or persecutor of those who did not accept him.
violence is not the way of God? did he not destroy sodom and gamorrah? saying violence is not the way of God is like those who always say "God is love"...that is a very misleading statement because when we say God IS something it's and unconditional attribute. it's more accurate to say that God is the most loving, but God does not love those who transgress against him.
I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. ~ Gandhi
"Head of State as well as Church, he was Caesar and Pope in One; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by right Divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life." ~ Reverend Bosworth Smith
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God created Adam and Lilith. Lilith was such a domineering bitch who wanted to be on top all the time and didn't know her place, so she flew off the handle and became a slut, fucking with demons.
God was like, "fuck this shit, Adam lay the fuck down and go to sleep."
Adam was like, "What the fuck, my bitch is fucking demons, is this how this shit goes, and what the fuck are you gonna do to me?"
God cause Adam to fall asleep because he was tired of hearing his mouth.
God took a part of Adam's rib, because he felt it was the only part that would possibly obey Adam (because if he took part of cock, the new woman would Always have a mind of her own).
He then created Eve. The End.
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i have read the entire text numerous times. it is correct that the prophet engaged in violence but only when it was absolutely necessary. there were many more instances showing his forgiveness and mercy. the quran says that violence is only permissible when it is done as an act of self defense. there are very specific passages about the rules on engagement during battles. for example, if your enemy has killed thousands of your men and you have only killed a few, the moment they stop you must also stop. it also states that if you kill just one innocent person it is if you have killed all of humanity. unlike jesus, muhammad was a statesman as well as a religious leader. nothing about his life showed him to be some type of a war monger or persecutor of those who did not accept him.
violence is not the way of God? did he not destroy sodom and gamorrah? saying violence is not the way of God is like those who always say "God is love"...that is a very misleading statement because when we say God IS something it's and unconditional attribute. it's more accurate to say that God is the most loving, but God does not love those who transgress against him.
I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. ~ Gandhi
"Head of State as well as Church, he was Caesar and Pope in One; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by right Divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life." ~ Reverend Bosworth Smith
the religion with the most laws in judaism, then after that you have religions that are way easier to follow, work on Sabbath, less kosher laws, less holidays especially complex ones. Makes one thing that its almost as, anyone who offered up an easier way, was followed quicker.
You can pick and choose good and bad from any religion book, some decide to just ignore things or justify things, gay is 100% not ok according to the bible yet you have church goers who are gay who have 150 excuses as to what the bible really meant.
One thing we can do is simply use common sense, and understand that regardless what you believe in don't push it on others, and simply dont hurt no one.
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violence is not the way of God? did he not destroy sodom and gamorrah? saying violence is not the way of God is like those who always say "God is love"...that is a very misleading statement because when we say God IS something it's and unconditional attribute. it's more accurate to say that God is the most loving, but God does not love those who transgress against him.
the stories in the bible arent real. the story of jesus might be. when discussing christianity we are discussing people who believe in the message jesus supposedly preached. the stories of a wrathful god who seeks vengence are blasphemous. no god did not destroy sodom and gamorrah. i dont know for certain god exists but i know for certain god is not an emotionally weak and imperfect being that would do harm to his people. to say god would send someone into an eternity of hell, or to say that god loves certain people but not others, is to blaspheme the perfection of god.
muhammad did not know god, he was not a real prophet. he did unerstand bits and pieces, yet his message was flawed. he made a huge mistake in advocating violence, even if only for self defense. that is not the way of god nor is it how god wants us to behave.
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Human Genetics: Our Past and Our Future
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/325
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the stories in the bible arent real. the story of jesus might be. when discussing christianity we are discussing people who believe in the message jesus supposedly preached. the stories of a wrathful god who seeks vengence are blasphemous. no god did not destroy sodom and gamorrah. i dont know for certain god exists but i know for certain god is not an emotionally weak and imperfect being that would do harm to his people. to say god would send someone into an eternity of hell, or to say that god loves certain people but not others, is to blaspheme the perfection of god.
muhammad did not know god, he was not a real prophet. he did unerstand bits and pieces, yet his message was flawed. he made a huge mistake in advocating violence, even if only for self defense. that is not the way of god nor is it how god wants us to behave.
ahahaahahahaahahaaha, you gotta be fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the stories in the bible arent real. the story of jesus might be. when discussing christianity we are discussing people who believe in the message jesus supposedly preached. the stories of a wrathful god who seeks vengence are blasphemous. no god did not destroy sodom and gamorrah. i dont know for certain god exists but i know for certain god is not an emotionally weak and imperfect being that would do harm to his people. to say god would send someone into an eternity of hell, or to say that god loves certain people but not others, is to blaspheme the perfection of god.
muhammad did not know god, he was not a real prophet. he did unerstand bits and pieces, yet his message was flawed. he made a huge mistake in advocating violence, even if only for self defense. that is not the way of god nor is it how god wants us to behave.
God has sent messengers and prophets as guidance. we have been given this guidance as a mercy and if we choose to live our lives any way we see fit then we are asking for eternal hell. God is the most loving and most forgiving but he also isn't a punk. saying God does not punish those who transgress against him and reward those who are the most righteous is what blasphemes the perfection of God.
discussing christianity is not discussing the teachings of jesus, its discussing the teachings about jesus. most of this comes from paul and it would be more accurately be described as paulianity. half the books they decided to use for the new testament are pauline christianity. the followers of jesus never viewed him as divine and jesus never claimed to be. jesus was a servant of God who was sent only to the lost sheep of israel. jesus taught that salvation comes through keeping the commandments, physical prayer, and following the laws. paul came along and distorted the teachings and saying that salvation comes through faith and grace.
saying that muhammad was not a real prophet is ridiculous. anyone who has done and unbiased study of the circumstances in which the quran was revealed and life of muhammad, there is no doubt that he was a prophet and messenger. the evidence to support his prophethood is overwhelming. there is a long list of reasons that prove but i won't even waste my time getting into all that because i can see that it's pointless.
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Here is an example. Perhaps you learn only from examples. You're the biggest retard on this site.
HTH
This grammar lesson is obviously a digression from the original topic of this thread. Personally, I think it is more retarded to correct someone's grammar (unless you are their editor or their English professor) on an Internet blog than it is to use poor grammar. No offense intended....just a heads up.
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God did it.
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God has a vagina
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Who invented the first soft drink?
Adam. He made Eve's cherry pop.
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Who invented the first soft drink?
Adam. He made Eve's cherry pop.
ha I like that :D
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Then where do the neanderthals (cave men) fit in? Please enlighten me. Do not move this to the religion board, because nobody will read it there.
OK, Let`s all assume the Bible is correct, just for a second, the explanation is as follows.... Pre-flood era there was a unique atmospheric pressure with Oxygen enriched molecules combined with a suspended layer of a water above the ozone layer that filtered out radiation, UV ray, gamma rays etc, thus providing the perfect occurrences of photosynthesis, which ultimately is humans source of food, hence providing the maximum amount of life spans a biological entity is capable of producing. In this case pre-flood man was capable of living in excess of 900 year, the human anatomy shows that there are bone structures that keep growing until the day you die such as the orbiculares occuli , the bridge above your eyes. the nasal bones, and other facial structural components, portions of the ears, portions of the spinal chords etc etc. This is why age can be determine by examining a bone structure or skeletal remain, an 80 year old bone structure varies significantly of that of a 20 year old, so just imagine a bode structure of a 800 year old man, neanderthal is indeed man, just a very very old man.
Now before all you guys start with the name calling, your in fairytale land, stupid, moran, idiot, tooth fairy,Santa clause, lockness, blah, blah, blah....save it cause I have heard it a million times before and I am just answering his question from an alternative perspective of that of evolution, not here debating wether its true or not, beside if you don`t believe in it then why even bother asking a question that your not going to like the perspective answere.
here we go lol ;D....................... ........
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Here is the kicker .. Adam and Eve were enslaved in the garden of eden until satan came along and freed Their minds and allowed them to fuck and live life on earth...
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Here is the kicker .. Adam and Eve were enslaved in the garden of eden until satan came along and freed Their minds and allowed them to fuck up and be depressed on earth...
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Here is the kicker .. Adam and Eve were enslaved in the garden of eden until satan came along and freed Their minds and allowed them to fuck and live life on earth...
Yes, before that it was all boring and shitty. Satan really helped us to be more than animals.
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Paradise for eternity must indeed be as boring as Jay Cutler is...
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Nice, a thread on a bodybuilding blog discussing folklore. Adam, Eve, the snake and now Satan. -Makes me pleased to be Agnostic.
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Nice, a thread on a bodybuilding blog discussing folklore. Adam, Eve, the snake and now Satan. -Makes me pleased to be Agnostic.
The Devil is in the details...
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OK, Let`s all assume the Bible is correct, just for a second, the explanation is as follows.... Pre-flood era there was a unique atmospheric pressure with Oxygen enriched molecules combined with a suspended layer of a water above the ozone layer that filtered out radiation, UV ray, gamma rays etc, thus providing the perfect occurrences of photosynthesis, which ultimately is humans source of food, hence providing the maximum amount of life spans a biological entity is capable of producing. In this case pre-flood man was capable of living in excess of 900 year, the human anatomy shows that there are bone structures that keep growing until the day you die such as the orbiculares occuli , the bridge above your eyes. the nasal bones, and other facial structural components, portions of the ears, portions of the spinal chords etc etc. This is why age can be determine by examining a bone structure or skeletal remain, an 80 year old bone structure varies significantly of that of a 20 year old, so just imagine a bode structure of a 800 year old man, neanderthal is indeed man, just a very very old man.
Now before all you guys start with the name calling, your in fairytale land, stupid, moran, idiot, tooth fairy,Santa clause, lockness, blah, blah, blah....save it cause I have heard it a million times before and I am just answering his question from an alternative perspective of that of evolution, not here debating wether its true or not, beside if you don`t believe in it then why even bother asking a question that your not going to like the perspective answere.
here we go lol ;D....................... ........
We are creatures of God, and God left (why? when will he return? how comes he only keeps in touch with a fraction of us?) us with a written guide, the bible, to dispose of ourselves and find hapiness if we follow his principles... our principles. If you do not follow these principles you ll find evil and suffering and will perpetuate them, as sure as following these principles will lead you to hapiness and will allow you to perpetuate it.
God intervenes in our lives at night when we sleep, especially in our dreams, but we have to read the bible , his holy writings, and pray, to stay wired to him and keep listening to, looking at, the signs he puts on our path. As people lose faith in him, they cannot communicate with him anymore, communications are troubled. The more we re harmed, hurt, the more we harm, hurt, the more we re disconnecting ourselves with him and what makes us feel really good and happy. Those who lose contact with him, who refuse progressively to understand they re only his creations and cannot BE Him, they become more and more prone to fall for Evil. Is evil another God fighting the good God? Attempting to be, become God himself when we re only designed to be his creation, is a sin. We cannot be anything else but his creatures and follow the mechanics he created, just as a kid can only do and say what his father, parents, told him to do and say.
Hapiness is linked to faith. Faith is found following the guide left by our creator. We are not supposed to understand more, arent designed to understand more. We CANNOT UNDERSTAND MORE THAN WHAT WE RE LEFT WITH BY THOSE WHO CREATED US. Any attempt to do so leads to madness and death. Which means genuine hapiness can only and solely be found in faith, family and unconditionnal love, submission and respect for our creator. Just like loving and respecting our Father insure our best odds of survival and hapiness, if our father is a good father, following himself the principles of His creator.
Good things lead to good things, this is mathematical and scientifically proven. Does a good life following the principles of God leads to a good afterlife?
What is the afterlife, another dimension, another earth, another parallel universe where we reap what we sow ? Is the afterlife... Becoming God himself?
Why all of this? Good fucking question. But there are some patterns we re all able to see and cannot deny. And mankind is going in a direction. Everyone knows it. Something is coming. Also how comes the more we try to understand, the more we discover, the more things seem complicated and complex? It's like everytime humans understand and discover something new, something new and impossible to understand is created simultaneously. Like if someone, something was creating new boundaries everytime we reach the old ones with no end in sight. Do you guys really think there's is something to be found in space ? The more we learn about space, the more we figure we should take care of earth, because space is absolutely not designed to sustain our survival.
Are the theories of natural selection, evolution, of the subconscious, just ways to explain the "mysterious and unpenetrable ways of God" , but always, "mysteriously", fail to do so?
Are we characters of a virtual world, some kind of video game, programmed by developpers, can we do something different than what has been written in the code, the scenario, is the background, are grass, sky, sun, ilusions as they are in a video game? Can we be, become something else than the character we ve been designed to be, to become?
If we ve been created by developpers... Who/what created them, and why? And who created those who created them, and why? And so on...
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God has sent messengers and prophets as guidance. we have been given this guidance as a mercy and if we choose to live our lives any way we see fit then we are asking for eternal hell. God is the most loving and most forgiving but he also isn't a punk. saying God does not punish those who transgress against him and reward those who are the most righteous is what blasphemes the perfection of God.
discussing christianity is not discussing the teachings of jesus, its discussing the teachings about jesus. most of this comes from paul and it would be more accurately be described as paulianity. half the books they decided to use for the new testament are pauline christianity. the followers of jesus never viewed him as divine and jesus never claimed to be. jesus was a servant of God who was sent only to the lost sheep of israel. jesus taught that salvation comes through keeping the commandments, physical prayer, and following the laws. paul came along and distorted the teachings and saying that salvation comes through faith and grace.
saying that muhammad was not a real prophet is ridiculous. anyone who has done and unbiased study of the circumstances in which the quran was revealed and life of muhammad, there is no doubt that he was a prophet and messenger. the evidence to support his prophethood is overwhelming. there is a long list of reasons that prove but i won't even waste my time getting into all that because i can see that it's pointless.
Messengers and prophets are always people who ve read the bible in the firstplace before figuring they had a message to promote...
Faith is a construct of the evolution of the Thought process.
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Jesus sold Satan steroids
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Jesus sold Satan steroids
x2, i think it is in the Bible somewhere, have forgotten the exact passage now, but i remember something along the lines of 1500mg Testosterone, 300mg Tren Ace ed and some Masteron mentioned in sunday school by the pastor.
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Yeah, and Jesus was looking very lean on that cross, you know... >:(
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Yeah, and Jesus was looking very lean on that cross, you know... >:(
Diuretics, if they hadn't killed him he would be gone because of kidney failure a few years later for sure.
Dude overdid it, all this water-to-wine-shit on top of too much orals, then the tren and dry look all year round....
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Jesus had no probs with being pinned - though strange place for his last shots :-\
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Jesus had no probs with being pinned - though strange place for his last shots :-\
Too much scar tissue in the glutes.... :o :o :o :o
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I hope Ron bought extra bandwidth for this thread
hopefully, nobody mentions Diet Soda in this thread or a new internet will have to be created just to contain this thread
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We are creatures of God, and God left (why? when will he return? how comes he only keeps in touch with a fraction of us?) us with a written guide, the bible, to dispose of ourselves and find hapiness if we follow his principles... our principles. If you do not follow these principles you ll find evil and suffering and will perpetuate them, as sure as following these principles will lead you to hapiness and will allow you to perpetuate it.
God intervenes in our lives at night when we sleep, especially in our dreams, but we have to read the bible , his holy writings, and pray, to stay wired to him and keep listening to, looking at, the signs he puts on our path. As people lose faith in him, they cannot communicate with him anymore, communications are troubled. The more we re harmed, hurt, the more we harm, hurt, the more we re disconnecting ourselves with him and what makes us feel really good and happy. Those who lose contact with him, who refuse progressively to understand they re only his creations and cannot BE Him, they become more and more prone to fall for Evil. Is evil another God fighting the good God? Attempting to be, become God himself when we re only designed to be his creation, is a sin. We cannot be anything else but his creatures and follow the mechanics he created, just as a kid can only do and say what his father, parents, told him to do and say.
Hapiness is linked to faith. Faith is found following the guide left by our creator. We are not supposed to understand more, arent designed to understand more. We CANNOT UNDERSTAND MORE THAN WHAT WE RE LEFT WITH BY THOSE WHO CREATED US. Any attempt to do so leads to madness and death. Which means genuine hapiness can only and solely be found in faith, family and unconditionnal love, submission and respect for our creator. Just like loving and respecting our Father insure our best odds of survival and hapiness, if our father is a good father, following himself the principles of His creator.
Good things lead to good things, this is mathematical and scientifically proven. Does a good life following the principles of God leads to a good afterlife?
What is the afterlife, another dimension, another earth, another parallel universe where we reap what we sow ? Is the afterlife... Becoming God himself?
Why all of this? Good fucking question. But there are some patterns we re all able to see and cannot deny. And mankind is going in a direction. Everyone knows it. Something is coming. Also how comes the more we try to understand, the more we discover, the more things seem complicated and complex? It's like everytime humans understand and discover something new, something new and impossible to understand is created simultaneously. Like if someone, something was creating new boundaries everytime we reach the old ones with no end in sight. Do you guys really think there's is something to be found in space ? The more we learn about space, the more we figure we should take care of earth, because space is absolutely not designed to sustain our survival.
Are the theories of natural selection, evolution, of the subconscious, just ways to explain the "mysterious and unpenetrable ways of God" , but always, "mysteriously", fail to do so?
Are we characters of a virtual world, some kind of video game, programmed by developpers, can we do something different than what has been written in the code, the scenario, is the background, are grass, sky, sun, ilusions as they are in a video game? Can we be, become something else than the character we ve been designed to be, to become?
If we ve been created by developpers... Who/what created them, and why? And who created those who created them, and why? And so on...
I see you posting more about GOD and "the creator" recently, I thought you were "uberman" lol. I guess what we're seeing with you is the religious stage Kierkegaard was talking about
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There is the old testament, the new testament, the qur'an, the mahabharata and many other religious books / guides / history of humanity scrolls.
When I talk to say a Muslim or Jewish person and they talk with 100% certainty on how their method the the right method etc, I ask them, hypothetically if they where born into a family that lead another religious belief wouldn't they believe that that's the real belief system?
I feel as humans we should respect everyone regardless what they believe, no god, yes god, 5 gods, anunaki, whatever. As long as its not hurting you who cares.
Only thing I wish is that the camera should of been invented whenever the world started.
The more I read about the planets, stars, the cycle of earth, the moon and sun, the more it just amazes me, I have a hard-time believing it just happened on its own, BUT this doesn't mean I have an answer.
A very level-headed concept. I agree.
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actually jesus was famously carrying a lot of water (and blood) on the cross
Clearly kidney issues.
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But he had a lat stretch even Parillo would be amazed with...
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We are all going to hell after this thread :D Or maybe forced to compete in a third tier pro show :o
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What is the difference between "Jesus" and "Santa Claus"? I'm being serious. We like to think that we know alot more about ancient history then we really do. Truth is that we would have to re-write many history book if we knew the true facts about what happened thousands of years ago. Guys like Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great had their own personal historians, who probably kept only most of the good stuff down on paper.
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What is the difference between "Jesus" and "Santa Claus"? I'm being serious. We like to think that we know alot more about ancient history then we really do. Truth is that we would have to re-write many history book if we knew the true facts about what happened thousands of years ago. Guys like Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great had their own personal historians, who probably kept only most of the good stuff down on paper.
Seems there are hardly if any historical documents about Jesus other than the bible. I think he either didn't exist at all or he was some rebel leader or schizophrenic that fucked up..
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I see you posting more about GOD and "the creator" recently, I thought you were "uberman" lol. I guess what we're seeing with you is the religious stage Kierkegaard was talking about
The rest of us have reached this stage.
(http://oi56.tinypic.com/oqg4nb.jpg)
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What about Jim Jones? He was the wack job that made almost 1,000 people kill themselves by literally "drinking the koolaide". What if his little utopia actually caught on? Would people have been worshipping "Jim Jones" 1,000 years from now? Maybe.
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I see you posting more about GOD and "the creator" recently, I thought you were "uberman" lol. I guess what we're seeing with you is the religious stage Kierkegaard was talking about
I noticed this as well.
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Next time the Witnesses knock I'm launching into an epileptic air guitar rendition of All Aloooooong Tha Watchtowaaaaa.
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This shit is getting serious now :D Place your bets!!!!!!
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Good lecture on why people have religious beliefs. It doesn't denigrate religion or religious beliefs, but rather attempts to explain how the human brain developed to have religious ideas through everyday cognitions.
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This shit is getting serious now :D Place your bets!!!!!!
That's a tough one. Santa is a drunk but fat so pretty strong. And Jesus got God on his side, at least that's what he thinks, but God doesn't exist.
I'd say let the winner take up Stallone...
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Why post videos for theist claims which have already been shown to be misleading or false in court?
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This discussion needs to be summed up with the clip of tdongz biting his lip.
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Anyway, I think Wong Hong got a really large head...
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I don't see any difference.............. ...
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Anyway, I think Wong Hong got a really large head...
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This guy from Easter Island or what?
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This guy from Easter Island or what?
He was the Head of the tribe over there...
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Well scientists that believe in the big bang, agree that they have no clue what caused the big bang.
I am far from religious, and simply looking at the two popular options:
Option 1: World is billions or trillions of years old, was started by a big bang, that resulted overtime in a perfect cycle of planets and stars for earth to be possible and gradually resulted in the creation of life all the way till it turned into a human.
Option 2: A god that was always here that has no creator, created all this. (believing in 1 god is easier than 2 gods).
To me the god story is way better, its easier for me to believe that there is a god than to believe everything just happened on its own.
The former is a scientific hypothesis, in which the conclusion is drawn from empirical evidence. The latter is, in your own words, a story. It's a nice tidy story, but there is zero corroborating evidence.
Uncaused existence has shown to occur naturally. If it's 'First Cause', or a 'Prime Mover' you're looking for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
The hypothesis of the origins of the Universe will undoubtedly be revised as we learn more about the nature of reality, but at this moment in time it's the best explanation we have to explain reality without resorting to absurd stories to explain that which we don't yet understand completely.
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He was the Head of the tribe over there...
Nice... ;D
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(http://p1.xhamster.com/000/009/343/918_1000.jpg)
Now this is the pic that sums up this whole debate!
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Nice photo .The bible says that Adam and Eve were the first people ever born. Since they were the only people around, their children would have to fuck each other in order to have children. Does anyone else think the bible should be renamed American History?
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How come baby Jesus didn't have a crib for a bed - his dad was a fucking carpenter.
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How come baby Jesus didn't have a crib for a bed - his dad was a fucking carpenter.
Cause the donkey started complaining about all the shit they wanted it to carry...
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Now this is the pic that sums up this whole debate!
haha and he doesnt even liked women
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Nice photo .The bible says that Adam and Eve were the first people ever born. Since they were the only people around, their children would have to fuck each other in order to have children. Does anyone else think the bible should be renamed American History?
Science has proven there was a mitochondria eve in southwest africa. About 40k years ago there was a women who genes everyone alive today has inherited. It is strongly believed that this womens gene's corresponded to a revolution in cognition that allowed for us to become truly creative. The proof is in the cave art explosion that occurred around the exact same time.
Now that is quickly becoming fact in the scientific community. Fast track to religion and you can see a lot of tie ins to the bible.
God(creator) created us in his image(he gave us creativity).
He created genetic eve by giving her genetics for a serious neurological upgrade.
God removed us from the garden of eden and gave us sin ( he essentially gave us intelligence that put us above all other animals).
Anyhow I'm not trying to say the bible is a scientific document, but people really gotta stop using them as methods to attack each other. The bible is based on faith/history, science is based on what we know right now. There is some obvious flaws with both systems, religion never changes, and science can lead into some very scary concepts as in scientific racism/eugenics(the real theory that caused the holocaust)
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There is no, I repeat no, empirical evidence that any religious book is based on reality and/or history.
and there is none it isnt either.
Faith as you said it is part of the evolution of our thought process. If it has been kept by evolution and still make people move and act today, it means it is still useful to survival of humans, hence the reason why it has been kept by natural selection.
So again.. is God a creation of our brain, or is our brain a creation of God?
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and there is none it isnt either.
http://google/
Use it. :)
Faith as you said it is part of the evolution of our thought process. If it has been kept by evolution and still make people move and act today, it means it is still useful to survival of humans, hence the reason why it has been kept by natural selection.
Religion is becoming extinct.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/03/22/study-finds-religion-may-be-going-extinct-in-some-countries/
So again.. is God a creation of our brain, or is our brain a creation of God?
Good lecture on why people have religious beliefs. It doesn't denigrate religion or religious beliefs, but rather attempts to describe how the human brain developed to have religious ideas through everyday cognitions.
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Absence of evidence does not support the negative claim.
Do you understand how hard it is to prove something? Proof of the world as we know it can be seen and read in countless books and library's. Proof of religion and god as truth cannot be seen or read anywhere. Saying something is true does not make it true. I hope you understand this. And saying that something can be true because it has not yet been proven as not true is as anti-logical as one can get.
You believe god and religion is true, you prove it please. You can not ask somebody to un-prove your theory and you yourself not do anything and/or not present any facts to support your story.
Man kind has been working for centuries to explain our world and we have come a far end. Religion has not been anble to prove 1 single thing in the past 2000 years. The only argument within religion is 'I feel it is true and until it is proven otherwise it must be true'. Logic of 5 year old children.
Faith and belief have psychological importance in peoples survival, that is the reason people still believe.
There is NO REASON to think god is real and that he created our brain or anything. None what so ever. If one thinks there is please present the facts.
Yes, I agree, except exchange 'bible' with 'creator' with regard to the statement you're replying to.
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How is it possible that someone can even say this?
There is no, I repeat no, empirical evidence that any religious book is based on reality and/or history. Therefore it can be called fiction just like any other piece of work not based on reality.
If someone thinks there is evidence then they do not understand empirical research and need further information.
Religion is purely based on peoples own imagination. Not that there is by default nothing wrong with it but it is pure imagination.
Many good reasons to believe are found as peoples depth of information decreases. Less knowledge=more religion in general.
More knowledge=less religion as people realize that there is no evidence supporting any statements in any religious book.
As for science being the state-of-affairs as of now, it is the only logical and responsible way of thinking. We know as much as we know at this moment and until we find a better way of explaning things that make sense and is supported with abbundand facts, we will use the latest way of explanation (theory).
Science is progressive and self-evaluative. Religion is passively dominant and never changes in general.
Therefore science is the way of developing all fronts and religion is there to fill the need of our combined primitive human psyche. After all how can we change so much in couple hundred years when we are developing for last 200k years in natures unfriendly enviroment where human kind did not understand most of its parts.
Not understanding=imagining own explanations.
First off dude you've completely missed the boat on what I'm saying never said the bible was based on evidence the bible is pure rhetoric fact.
Part 1 As far as evidence goes, the bible never was about imperical evidence that does not mean it's impossible for it to be right about shit even if it's cryptic. As even I said it's open for debate and does not take the place of fact.
Part 2 religion is religion the bible is not religion or vice versa there very separate, the bible is a cultural document that has stayed in it's current state for nearly 2000 years, and it's a staple in most of western society as a result. It's value is purely in it's ability to culturally unify over 2 billion people.
Part 3 It's a myth that science in the only way of thinking, which is a totally false. Science is has some very deep limits, that any educated person is aware of. Simply put you can't prove everything, as you can't see everything and since science is based on observation, you can only prove what you can see.
Aside from that science has a dependency on logic, which ironically humans are really really really inept with as proven by psychology.
Part 4 Science is progressive which is another serious problem, science does not judge whether or not it's current view is harmful to society, simply it is imperical and only holds to what is seen as objective and true at the time.
Anyhow you did nothing to disprove my main point which is you can't disprove logic with belief and you can't disprove
belief with logic. Very basic philosophy, it's people inability to understand this which makes me feel that science(really pseudo science) is quickly turning into a major religion.
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you guys should read the bible, both OT andNT, because obviously you didnt, or only read small scatered parts when kids with a not developed enough brain and comprehension.
Then, once you re done tell us what you truly think. But you sound like you re only repeating stuff other people told you.
If at least you had read it, you wouldnt condemn/depict it the way you do , which is systematically pejorative, even if you didnt believe in it. I dont know anyone who really read the bible from start to finish and who despised or questionned it.
Only atheists people who were endoctrinated by their parents to say the bible is de facto moronic talk the way you guys do.
If you re not baffled by some of the things that are written in it (especially by the way the apparitions of god are depicted) it means you didnt read it, period.
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you guys should read the bible, both OT andNT, because obviously you didnt, or only read small scatered parts when kids with a not developed enough brain and comprehension.
Then, once you re done tell us what you truly think. But you sound like you re only repeating stuff other people told you.
If at least you had read it, you wouldnt condemn/depict it the way you do , which is systematically pejorative, even if you didnt believe in it. I dont know anyone who really read the bible from start to finish and who despised or questionned it.
Only atheists people who were endoctrinated by their parents to say the bible is de facto moronic talk the way you guys do.
If you re not baffled by some of the things that are written in it (especially by the way the apparitions of god are depicted) it means you didnt read it, period.
Read it and parents are theists.
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Not true. In my case I have read the bible, Qur'an and other religious books. Went to church, tempels, mosques and listened hundreds of times and talked with people countless times.
Still there is nothing that is any proof god is real. None.
Why is there even a debate over religion?
I can say I believe in a rock and it would be true following the logic of religion. No proof I would have to give.
Problem comes when people act as if religion is true and have impact on others.
The basis of religion is that there is no proof, that's why it's called faith, the whole idea is you can't know in your life time whether or not there is a god creator or force. So you take the healthy view and believe even if it's just a deeply imbedded survival mechanism.
It's not about whether or not it's true it's whether or not it has value. No one wants a scientific logical proof as to why they should fuck, the point of life is to just be and not scrutinize everything. The value comes from the warm feelings, dating options, etcera, that religion can give to you, which even if it's not true people still like believing.
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The basis of religion is that there is no proof, that's why it's called faith, the whole idea is you can't know in your life time whether or not there is a god creator or force. So you take the healthy view and believe even if it's just a deeply imbedded survival mechanism.
It's not about whether or not it's true it's whether or not it has value. No one wants a scientific logical proof as to why they should fuck, the point of life is to just be and not scrutinize everything. The value comes from the warm feelings, dating options, etcera, that religion can give to you, which even if it's not true people still like believing.
The Westboro Baptist Church has set its hateful sights on the movie, "Red State" -- which will be released in theaters later this month -- calling director Kevin Smith "a God-hating clown."
The Church spokesperson says, "God hates fags, God hates fag enablers, therefore God hates Kevin Smith."
http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/04/westboro-babtist-church-kevin-smith-red-state-movie-release-god-hates-fags-release-vod-theaters-fred-phelps/#.TmUFXo75xnM
Good publicity for the movie mind you.
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adam and steve
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God makes mistakes too. He made Wong Hongs head way too big....
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God makes mistakes too. He made Wong Hongs head way too big....
Useless without pics.
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Useless without pics.
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adam and muhammad
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(http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/l_1d/leader.gif)
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I had a science teacher in highschool with a head like that. But he wasn't as muscular as Wong Hong. He played the Rolling Stones in class though. That made up for a lot...
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I had a science teacher in highschool with a head like that. But he wasn't as muscular as Wong Hong. He played the Rolling Stones in class though. That made up for a lot...
Kudos for playing the Stones in class, a must for any course curriculum. :D
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The Westboro Baptist Church has set its hateful sights on the movie, "Red State" -- which will be released in theaters later this month -- calling director Kevin Smith "a God-hating clown."
The Church spokesperson says, "God hates fags, God hates fag enablers, therefore God hates Kevin Smith."
http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/04/westboro-babtist-church-kevin-smith-red-state-movie-release-god-hates-fags-release-vod-theaters-fred-phelps/#.TmUFXo75xnM
Good publicity for the movie mind you.
God hates fags, lol you seriously believe any rational minded person believers on gaybashings. Most christians in america are fucking retarted biggots, in europe most biggots are athiest who hate all forms of religion, it's the same game based on ignorance and hate, and nothing to do with religion,
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Childish superstition. Wait 'til MCWAY starts a 30+page thread about Noah's Ark. ::)
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you guys should read the bible, both OT andNT, because obviously you didnt, or only read small scatered parts when kids with a not developed enough brain and comprehension.
Then, once you re done tell us what you truly think. But you sound like you re only repeating stuff other people told you.
If at least you had read it, you wouldnt condemn/depict it the way you do , which is systematically pejorative, even if you didnt believe in it. I dont know anyone who really read the bible from start to finish and who despised or questionned it.
Only atheists people who were endoctrinated by their parents to say the bible is de facto moronic talk the way you guys do.
If you re not baffled by some of the things that are written in it (especially by the way the apparitions of god are depicted) it means you didnt read it, period.
Excellent post
You don't have to believe in God to know that the historical Biblical narative is extremely accurate, and the birth of many nations is still taught in these nations the manner in which they were formed.
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End of days
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Not true. In my case I have read the bible, Qur'an and other religious books. Went to church, tempels, mosques and listened hundreds of times and talked with people countless times.
Still there is nothing that is any proof god is real. None.
Why is there even a debate over religion?
I can say I believe in a rock and it would be true following the logic of religion. No proof I would have to give.
Problem comes when people act as if religion is true and have impact on others.
I don't think he was talking about a verse here and there, he said from front to back.
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God hates fags, lol you seriously believe any rational minded person believers on gaybashings. Most christians in america are fucking retarted biggots, in europe most biggots are athiest who hate all forms of religion, it's the same game based on ignorance and hate, and nothing to do with religion,
Most Atheists don't hate religion, but want theistic ideologies/teachings to be removed from politics and from being taught in schools as either science or fact.
But, yes I agree about the racial hatred and homophobia amongst religious peoples.
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Childish superstition. Wait 'til MCWAY starts a 30+page thread about Noah's Ark. ::)
lol
What ever happened to him?
Preparing for the Rapture perhaps?