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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on September 23, 2011, 08:14:23 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=3&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse
Armed troops acting on behalf of a British carbon trading company backed by the World Bank burned houses to the ground and killed children to evict Ugandans from their homes in the name of seizing land to protect against “global warming,” a shocking illustration of how the climate change con is a barbarian form of neo-colonialism.
The evictions were ordered by New Forests Company, an outfit that seizes land in Africa to grow trees then sells the “carbon credits” on to transnational corporations. The company is backed by the World Bank and HSBC. Its Board of Directors includes HSBC Managing Director Sajjad Sabur, as well as other former Goldman Sachs investment bankers.
The company claims residents of Kicucula left in a “peaceful” and “voluntary” manner, and yet the people tell a story of terror and bloodshed.
Villagers told of how armed “security forces” stormed their village and torched houses, burning an eight-year-child to death as they threatened to murder anyone who resisted while beating others.
“We were in church,” recalled Jean-Marie Tushabe, 26, a father of two. “I heard bullets being shot into the air.”
“Cars were coming with police,” Mr. Tushabe said, sitting among the ruins of his old home. “They headed straight to the houses. They took our plates, cups, mattresses, bed, pillows. Then we saw them getting a matchbox out of their pockets.”
“But in this case, the government and the company said the settlers were illegal and evicted for a good cause: to protect the environment and help fight global warming,” reports the New York Times.
An Oxfam report documents how the British outfit has worked with the Ugandan government to forcibly expel over 20,000 people from their homes using terror and violence as part of a lucrative scramble for arable land that can be used to satisfy the multi-billion dollar carbon trading ponzi scheme, which is worth $1.8 million a year to the company.
“I no longer own any land. It’s impossible to feed my children – they have suffered so much. Some days all they eat is porridge from maize flour. When people can’t eat well their bodies become weak – there have been lots of cases of malaria and diarrhoea. Some days we don’t eat anything at all,” said former farmer Francis Longoli, whose land was stolen by New Forests.
cont... http://www.prisonplanet.com/armed-troops-burn-down-homes-kill-children-to-evict-ugandans-in-name-of-global-warming.html
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holy fucking shit Hugo!!!
this is probably the most disturbing thig I have heard in awhile. Wow.
going green = communism and nazisim.
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holy fucking shit Hugo!!!
this is probably the most disturbing thig I have heard in awhile. Wow.
going green = communism and nazisim.
pretty fucked up shit... I never trust anything hyped to protect us from a "danger" anymore...
This is actually something some on the right warned about and the left ignored.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=3&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse
Armed troops acting on behalf of a British carbon trading company backed by the World Bank burned houses to the ground and killed children to evict Ugandans from their homes in the name of seizing land to protect against “global warming,” a shocking illustration of how the climate change con is a barbarian form of neo-colonialism.
The evictions were ordered by New Forests Company, an outfit that seizes land in Africa to grow trees then sells the “carbon credits” on to transnational corporations. The company is backed by the World Bank and HSBC. Its Board of Directors includes HSBC Managing Director Sajjad Sabur, as well as other former Goldman Sachs investment bankers.
The company claims residents of Kicucula left in a “peaceful” and “voluntary” manner, and yet the people tell a story of terror and bloodshed.
Villagers told of how armed “security forces” stormed their village and torched houses, burning an eight-year-child to death as they threatened to murder anyone who resisted while beating others.
“We were in church,” recalled Jean-Marie Tushabe, 26, a father of two. “I heard bullets being shot into the air.”
“Cars were coming with police,” Mr. Tushabe said, sitting among the ruins of his old home. “They headed straight to the houses. They took our plates, cups, mattresses, bed, pillows. Then we saw them getting a matchbox out of their pockets.”
“But in this case, the government and the company said the settlers were illegal and evicted for a good cause: to protect the environment and help fight global warming,” reports the New York Times.
An Oxfam report documents how the British outfit has worked with the Ugandan government to forcibly expel over 20,000 people from their homes using terror and violence as part of a lucrative scramble for arable land that can be used to satisfy the multi-billion dollar carbon trading ponzi scheme, which is worth $1.8 million a year to the company.
“I no longer own any land. It’s impossible to feed my children – they have suffered so much. Some days all they eat is porridge from maize flour. When people can’t eat well their bodies become weak – there have been lots of cases of malaria and diarrhoea. Some days we don’t eat anything at all,” said former farmer Francis Longoli, whose land was stolen by New Forests.
cont... http://www.prisonplanet.com/armed-troops-burn-down-homes-kill-children-to-evict-ugandans-in-name-of-global-warming.html
Wow, I have to say that that's pretty bad.
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pretty fucked up shit... I never trust anything hyped to protect us from a "danger" anymore...
This is actually something some on the right warned about and the left ignored.
I know where you're going with this and it isn't even close to the case. They are clearly using a legitimate program for nefarious purposes. Sort of like burning witches at the stake in the name of the Bible
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crazy thing Hugo is that in the book I keep pimping Creature from Jekyll Island, the author Griffin keeps saying that the Green movement is merely a vehicle for global communism and tyranny, and he is right.
his green shit is total bs. it's all a scam.
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I know where you're going with this and it isn't even close to the case. They are clearly using a legitimate program for nefarious purposes. Sort of like burning witches at the stake in the name of the Bible
o it's not legit!!! it's total bs tailor made for gullible idiots. enviro nuts are worse than commies.
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Hugo - now you should know why I went crazy on the cap n trade bill.
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crazy thing Hugo is that in the book I keep pimping Creature from Jekyll Island, the author Griffin keeps saying that the Green movement is merely a vehicle for global communism and tyranny, and he is right.
his green shit is total bs. it's all a scam.
I pretty much agree with this. Plus look at what it does. yet another thing designed to keep the small guy out of business for the benefit of industry giants.
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Hugo - now you should know why I went crazy on the cap n trade bill.
oh yea, I know.
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o it's not legit!!! it's total bs tailor made for gullible idiots. enviro nuts are worse than commies.
some of the shit is legit concern. deforestation, nobody wants to be living in smog or see water supplies polluted to dangerous levels, but they use people concerned about all this stuff in ways not imagined and get away with it.
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oh yea, I know.
Hugo - I am a street guy. I am a guy who is a street leech, a hustler, and grew up amongst NYC mafia, swindlers, gangsters, dealers, etc. I avoided that my entire life and and never took the short cuts.
Can spot a thief and fraud from a mile away. this green thing is the worst swindle I have ever seen in my life.
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some of the shit is legit concern. deforestation, nobody wants to be living in smog or see water supplies polluted to dangerous levels, but they use people concerned about all this stuff in ways not imagined and get away with it.
I agree on that - but when the conversation turns to carbon trading credits and markets, carbon taxes, off sets, etc, bro - get the KY out - a big one is coming.
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global warming is a scam. i cannot believe the list of repubs and dems that bought into that nonsense.
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Lame fvcking attempt to discredit the environmentalists.
Hugo, just lost a lot of respect for you. You should know you're into a bad area when you're agreeing with 33386.
Thought you were a smarter guy than this.
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Lame fvcking attempt to discredit the environmentalists.
Hugo, just lost a lot of respect for you. You should know you're into a bad area when you're agreeing with 33386.
Thought you were a smarter guy than this.
LMFAO!!!
yeah, let's send more money to the govt to get pissed away on scams like Solyndra, financed by Goldman Sachs, and paid for by the tax payer, for a bogus cause.
brilliant.
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Lame fvcking attempt to discredit the environmentalists.
Hugo, just lost a lot of respect for you. You should know you're into a bad area when you're agreeing with 33386.
Thought you were a smarter guy than this.
I'm not discrediting environmentalists, just saying they are being taken for a ride with things like this carbon tax scheme. Like I said above, a lot of the concerns from environmentalists are legit.
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Hugo - I read the NYT link you posted. Heartbreaking. Am not an emotional guy, but that article is awful.
screw these white liberal commie assholes.
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"global warming" is nothing more than a cult by heretics longing for a cause, regardless of how absurd it is.
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I don't see why people living here who sponsor this shit oversees can't be held accountable here. There should be an investigation here and arrests made all the way up the line for anyone who knowingly aided in this shit.
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I don't see why people living here who sponsor this shit oversees can't be held accountable here. There should be an investigation here and arrests made all the way up the line for anyone who knowingly aided in this shit.
I really wanted to almost cry reading your NYT link. Regular people being tossed because of this green cult. disgraceful. really don't know what to say. I hate the enviro mafia like you have Bo idea.
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Listen to Lord Monckton on this.
Also funny nobody wants to debate this guy in public.
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Costs of climate tax ‘could drive farmers from the land’
Rosanne Barrett, The Austrailan, 27 July 2011
Carbon tax costs could push farmers off the land and raise the price of agricultural productivity, a Senate committee has been told.
Sitting in Brisbane, the Senate select committee on the scrutiny of new taxes heard that the Queensland government would forgo $1 billion in royalties in the coming decade because of the tax. Queensland Farmers Federation chief executive Dan Galligan said the extra costs would put more pressure on farm profits, and called for industry-specific economic modelling. "The analysis is too broad to give us a clear understanding of how many farmers this will affect to a point where they may well leave the industry," he said. "That may well happen for many farmers -- that loss in profit margins, associated with a number of other issues, will be enough reason for them to leave the farm."
Under questioning from Labor senators, Mr Galligan acknowledged the government exemptions on agriculture emissions and fuel were helpful. He said the Coalition's direct-action plan to pay $10 a tonne of soil carbon abatement would be insufficient. But he said the Gillard government's carbon reduction scheme could have the "perverse effect" of stalling farm productivity because improvements relied on power use, which would be more expensive under the carbon tax. "The mitigation options under the carbon farming initiatives may in fact further constrain a farmer's ability to increase productivity, which would be their usual mechanism to fight against a reduction in margins," he said.
cont... http://www.taxwatch.org.au/talk.asp?id=18#Costs_of_climate_tax__could_drive_farmers_from_the_land_
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You guys wanna see what a scam this carbon credit bullshit is, look no further then up north.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/public-sectors-carbon-offsets-subsidize-b-c-big-090752409.html
Public institutions such as schools and hospitals spent $18.2 million last year buying carbon offsets to compensate for greenhouse gas emissions -money that subsidized energy-efficiency programs of big industry rather than being reinvested in energy projects within the public sector.
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This is of course the logical next step to of the far Left.
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"global warming" is nothing more than a cult by heretics longing for a cause, regardless of how absurd it is.
Right. Obviously part of a communist conspiracy, as is anything else you don't agree with.
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This going green bullshit is nothing but a scam and cult for the morons to latch on to.
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Notice queerbear can't actually bring a counter argument. There are plenty of ECO-terrorist groups. Most don't actually do anything but groups like Elf which are loose cells that act independently have caused damage and injury in the logging industry. Look at the anti-whaling movement. Regardless of whether I agree with whaling, which I don't in the least. The folks going after ships are interfering with business.
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Right. Obviously part of a communist conspiracy, as is anything else you don't agree with.
Actually, it is if you look at it's roots and ultimate goals.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=3&scp=3&sq=uganda&st=cse
Armed troops acting on behalf of a British carbon trading company backed by the World Bank burned houses to the ground and killed children to evict Ugandans from their homes in the name of seizing land to protect against “global warming,” a shocking illustration of how the climate change con is a barbarian form of neo-colonialism.
The evictions were ordered by New Forests Company, an outfit that seizes land in Africa to grow trees then sells the “carbon credits” on to transnational corporations. The company is backed by the World Bank and HSBC. Its Board of Directors includes HSBC Managing Director Sajjad Sabur, as well as other former Goldman Sachs investment bankers.
The company claims residents of Kicucula left in a “peaceful” and “voluntary” manner, and yet the people tell a story of terror and bloodshed.
Villagers told of how armed “security forces” stormed their village and torched houses, burning an eight-year-child to death as they threatened to murder anyone who resisted while beating others.
“We were in church,” recalled Jean-Marie Tushabe, 26, a father of two. “I heard bullets being shot into the air.”
“Cars were coming with police,” Mr. Tushabe said, sitting among the ruins of his old home. “They headed straight to the houses. They took our plates, cups, mattresses, bed, pillows. Then we saw them getting a matchbox out of their pockets.”
“But in this case, the government and the company said the settlers were illegal and evicted for a good cause: to protect the environment and help fight global warming,” reports the New York Times.
An Oxfam report documents how the British outfit has worked with the Ugandan government to forcibly expel over 20,000 people from their homes using terror and violence as part of a lucrative scramble for arable land that can be used to satisfy the multi-billion dollar carbon trading ponzi scheme, which is worth $1.8 million a year to the company.
“I no longer own any land. It’s impossible to feed my children – they have suffered so much. Some days all they eat is porridge from maize flour. When people can’t eat well their bodies become weak – there have been lots of cases of malaria and diarrhoea. Some days we don’t eat anything at all,” said former farmer Francis Longoli, whose land was stolen by New Forests.
cont... http://www.prisonplanet.com/armed-troops-burn-down-homes-kill-children-to-evict-ugandans-in-name-of-global-warming.html
Disgusting but not surprising. The left will murder or destroy anyone and everyone that stands in the path of their goals. Not much different between them and the Islamists, hence the alliance. Global warming is their new siren call so expect more incidents like this. The last century showed us that even 100,000,000 bodies wasn't enough to satiate their blood-lust and aims.
Lame fvcking attempt to discredit the environmentalists.
Hugo, just lost a lot of respect for you. You should know you're into a bad area when you're agreeing with 33386.
Thought you were a smarter guy than this.
How is he discrediting them? It was the NY Times, the bastion of liberalism, that published this. Keep trying to hide the truth, snake. Murderer.
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Disgusting but not surprising. The left will murder or destroy anyone and everyone that stands in the path of their goals. Not much different between them and the Islamists, hence the alliance. Global warming is their new siren call so expect more incidents like this. The last century showed us that even 100,000,000 bodies wasn't enough to satiate their blood-lust and aims.
How is he discrediting them? It was the NY Times, the bastion of liberalism, that published this. Keep trying to hide the truth, snake. Murderer.
The go green movement is a cult and litttle else. Its also a messianic religion of the worst order by almost any definition with its devotees being used and suckered like pawns.
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Does anyone else notice the subtle contradiction between seemingly congruent ideological causes of the left?
The left loves Africa---- It should be saved, given money to, all of its youth should be forcibly adopted by Hollywood couples and pop stars like Madonna, its so beautiful, blah blah blah
The left also loves the environment-- so much so that leftists will stop at nothing to "protect" mother earth at the expense of human life, economic reality, science and common sense.
However, most of all, the left loves stealing money from taxpayers+ ordinary citizens, confiscating their property and controlling peoples lives.
Which competing leftist cause won the day in this case?
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Africa is a land rich with resources, filled with a failed people that cannot smartly exploit those resources to advance themselves. Most of the nations there reside under brutal dictators who do business with companies such as New Forests Company(backed by powerful financiers) and communist China to exploit those resources themselves for some extra money and firepower in their pockets.
Africa is doomed. The people there can NEVER be part of a civilized society(primarily Sub-Saharan Africa, mind you) so they will be in essence, colonized......despite what the political correctness term is(adopting babies, going green, charity, aid).
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IMF, World Bank eye carbon tax on fuels
herald sun ^ | 9/24/2011 | afp
Posted on September 26, 2011 7:27:06 AM EDT by tobyhill
THE World Bank and IMF are proposing global carbon taxes on aviation and ship fuels in developed economies to help reduce carbon dioxide emissions, according to a draft proposal seen by AFP today.
The proposal suggests an international charge on aviation and maritime bunker fuels of $US25 per ton of CO2, which it said would "reduce CO2 emissions from each sector by around five to 10 per cent".
Such a charge, if implemented well, could also bring in $US250 billion ($256.86 billion) in taxes in 2020, according to the report, which focuses on how funds to fight climate change can be mobilised.
The report recommends the plan for the "Annex II Countries" of the UN Climate Change Convention, including most developed economies.
(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...
Guess who heads the IMF now? Take a lllloooonnnng guess