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Herman Cain wins GOP Florida straw poll; Rick Perry in second place
ORLANDO — Former Godfather Pizza CEO Herman Cain won the Presidency 5 straw poll here Saturday, delivering a blow to Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s frontrunner status and a victory for a candidate who has struggled to transform his grassroots popularity into strong showings in national polls.
“Tonight’s winner is Herman Cain,” Florida Gov. Rick Scott announced. “It shows you something, the road to the White House come through Florida, and it pays to spend time here.”
He received 37 percent of the more than 2,600 votes cast.
“Thank you to the Republican voters for this incredible honor of being named the winner of the Presidency 5 straw poll in Florida today,” Mr. Cain said. “This is a sign of our growing momentum and my candidacy that cannot be ignored. I will continue to share my message of ‘common-sense solutions’ across this country and look forward to spending more time in Florida, a critical state for both the nomination and the general election.”
The two national frontrunners — Mr. Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — placed second and third. Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, meanwhile, landed in fourth place; Rep. Ron Paul of Texas landed in fifth place; and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, sixth. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann finished last. (See the poll results here.)
Mr. Cain’s victory closed out a three-day Republican powwow at the sprawling Orange County Convention Center, where thousands of activists watched Mr. Perry stumbled through another debate, while some of the oft-overlooked candidates turned in perhaps their best performances yet.
Minutes before the vote, Mr. Cain, Mr. Santorum and Mr. Gingrich each personally address the crowd Saturday afternoon, while some of the other candidates sent surrogates to speak on their behalf.
Mr. Cain again vowed to replace the tax code with a 9 percent tax on businesses, personal income and sales. He also said that while the nation faces economic, global and moral crises, the “biggest crisis of all is a severe deficiency of leadership in Washington, D.C., and in the White House.”
Mr. Santorum followed that up by continuing to cast himself as a proven winner in Democratic leaning districts and the authentic article when it comes to embodying the basic tenets of the conservative movement. “I stood by my convictions every single time,” he said.
Mr. Gingrich, meanwhile, expressed admiration for Sen. Marco Rubio, a tea party favorite, and teased the crowd with the idea of tapping him as his running mate.
“I’m not saying anything specific about a choice being made next summer, but when you imagine Marco Rubio debating Joe Biden, I mean the contrast between American commonsense and liberal nonsense will be so big,” he said, sparking laughter from the crowd.
The weekend kicked off Thursday with a Faith and Freedom Coalition rally and featured the third debate in as many weeks, a Faith and Freedom Coalition rally and a gathering of the Conservative Political Action Conference, the first ever regional meeting,
The result will win Mr. Cain some headlines, but the long-term impact of the poll on the nomination battle is difficult to read, as Mr. Romney and Mrs. Bachmann opted against aggressively competing in the poll.
(Mrs. Bachmann won the last high-profile straw poll in Iowa last month, but failed to get a bounce out of it.)
Mr. Perry, however, invested time and money into the contest. Heading into the event, he unveiled a leadership team for Presidency 5 led by Dean Cannon, speaker of the Florida House.
On Saturday, Mr. Perry hosted a breakfast for more than a thousand delegates and delivered his last pre-poll sales pitch, telling the crowd that Florida was a state that “picks presidents” and that it was a mistake for candidates to skip the “very important” straw poll.
“I think Ronald Reagan understood how important it was in 1979, and that’s the reason I’m here,” he said, suggesting that the former president’s straw poll victory helped propel him into the White House.
George H.W. Bush and Bob Dole also won the poll before winning the party’s presidential nod.
Mr. Perry also urged the delegates to chose substance over style — a message that he has repeated and that’s seen as a swipe at Mr. Romney, who many believed has delivered more polished performances in the debates.
“You’ve seen what happens when our country chooses a leader who emphasizes words over deeds,” Mr. Perry said. “We get a president like we have today.”
He added, “Americans don’t need more slick promises. We need a principled leader who will stand on his conservative values.”
The poll results come as Mr. Perry tries to regroup from a uneven debate performance Friday, where he came under fire from his GOP rivals and some of the audience for suggesting people are heartless if they don’t support in-state tuition rates at public colleges and universities for children of illegal immigrants.
Mrs. Bachmann continued the attacks in a fundraising email blast on Saturday. In it, she criticized the governor’s comments. “Our nation is trillions of dollars in debt, millions of Americans are without a job, yet Rick Perry sees it fit to offer in-state tuition to people who are not here legally,” she says. “It just doesn’t add up.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/24/herman-cain-wins-cpac-florida-straw-poll/?page=2
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Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll
September 24, 2011 6:02 P.M.
By Katrina Trinko
Every winner of Florida’s Presidency 5 straw poll has gone on to win the GOP nomination.
And if that tradition continues this year, Herman Cain will be the Republican nominee in 2012.
He overwhelmingly won the straw poll, nabbing 37 percent of the votes. That put Cain more than twenty percentage points ahead of Rick Perry (15 percent) and Mitt Romney (14 percent). Rick Santorum won 11 percent of the votes, while Ron Paul came in fifth at 10 percent. Newt Gingrich was backed by 8 percent. And Michele Bachmann, who won the Ames Straw Poll, finished dead last at 1.5 percent. Jon Huntsman beat her to come in seventh place with 2.3 percent of the vote.
For Perry, whose campaign very aggressively courted delegates — his campaign hosted a breakfast, sent out direct mail, telephoned delegates, and appointed a leadership commission lead by Florida House speaker Dean Cannon — the distant second-place finish has the potential to curtail the momentum he’s had as frontrunner since entering the race. Many of the straw poll delegates expressed frustration at his poor debate performance Thursday night, along with irritation at his immigration positions.
And while Perry spoke this morning, not all the delegates were present at the breakfast and his speech failed to ignite the room. Cain, on the other hand, delivered a speech that was heard by most of the delegates — and was very well-received. By my count, there were at least seven standing ovations during his speech.
The conventional wisdom is that Cain had his moment. But he may just be on his way to surging back up in the polls.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/278268/cain-wins-florida-straw-poll-katrina-trinko#
Interesting.
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Perry put a big effort into a win in this straw poll. Mit didn't even show up or care about it. That can't look good for Perry. Cain wins and Perry only beats Mit by 1 point lol..
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That's pretty cool. Great to see an outside the beltway candidate making headway. I like this guy.
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That's pretty cool. Great to see an outside the beltway candidate making headway. I like this guy.
LOL at this opinion compared to your thoughts on Paul. If Paul gains or wins something, it's a conspiracy from a small fanatical group and not relevant because Paul isn't polling high enough. Cain is polling lower than Paul but when he pulls an upset, it's cool and good to see an outside the beltway candidate making gains.
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That's pretty cool. Great to see an outside the beltway candidate making headway. I like this guy.
Damn racist teabaggers!!!!
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LOL at this opinion compared to your thoughts on Paul. If Paul gains or wins something, it's a conspiracy from a small fanatical group and not relevant because Paul isn't polling high enough. Cain is polling lower than Paul but when he pulls an upset, it's cool and good to see an outside the beltway candidate making gains.
Cain isn't going to get elected and neither is Paul. But it's good to have both of them in the race. I've never said anything differently.
How can Paul get the nomination if he's unable to win Texas?
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Damn racist teabaggers!!!!
Hahahahaha!! I didn't even think about that. Truth. :)
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Cain isn't going to get elected and neither is Paul. But it's good to have both of them in the race. I've never said anything differently.
How can Paul get the nomination if he's unable to win Texas?
So, who will get elected?
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So, who will get elected?
Obama
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Damn racist teabaggers!!!!
Oh, the goofies are still beating that drum. On HP, some are crying that they gave the poll to Cain, because of Morgan Freeman's comments on Piers Morgan.
As I stated there, Piers Morgan has all of 28 viewers since his debut, interviewing Oprah. The voters don't give two spits about what Freeman has to say about the matter. We know all this "racist" crap is their pitiful attempt to hide Obama's failings.
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Obama
Obama is not going to be on the ticket.
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Obama is not going to be on the ticket.
After it's all said and done it will be Obama for 4 more years.
I want no one else but Paul with Kucinich as VP
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After it's all said and done it will be Obama for 4 more years.
I want no one else but Paul with Kucinich as VP
The scandals are going To force Bama off the ticket.
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After it's all said and done it will be Obama for 4 more years.
I want no one else but Paul with Kucinich as VP
333 will secretly be happy, his post count might hit a million if Obama is reelected. ;D
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333 will secretly be happy, his post count might hit a million if Obama is reelected. ;D
screw that. Bama another 4 years will be the end of us.
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screw that. Bama another 4 years will be the end of us.
you got that right. I think with this current group maybe Rand Paul would fair better.
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you got that right. I think with this current group maybe Rand Paul would fair better.
I like Rand. The way he let those EPA freaks have it over consumer choice was awesome.
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Cain isn't going to get elected and neither is Paul. But it's good to have both of them in the race. I've never said anything differently.
How can Paul get the nomination if he's unable to win Texas?
It's a conspiracy by a small group when Paul gains ground-------it's awesome when Cain gains ground with even less followers lol... Yea, I got ya...
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Damn racist teabaggers!!!!
you know your people well!
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Oh, the goofies are still beating that drum. On HP, some are crying that they gave the poll to Cain, because of Morgan Freeman's comments on Piers Morgan.
As I stated there, Piers Morgan has all of 28 viewers since his debut, interviewing Oprah. The voters don't give two spits about what Freeman has to say about the matter. We know all this "racist" crap is their pitiful attempt to hide Obama's failings.
Go get yourself some Orange Cell-Tech buddy....calm yourself down :)
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After it's all said and done it will be Obama for 4 more years.
I want no one else but Paul with Kucinich as VP
Kucinich>???????????????????????????
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Kucinich>???????????????????????????
well my thinking is to have someone that shares at least some of his ideals while having some sort of influence with the democrats. I looked at On the Issues website and I see several votes for things that I do not agree with so who knows. There must be better but I know they have a working relationship so I was just throwing the possibility out there. I do know that if he attaches his name with the likes of Ralph Nader the campaign will stop dead in it's tracks. I like Nader but the voting public only thinks of him as the guy who runs every election year and loses miserably. It's a shame the political game is a popularity contest.
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Kucinich is a joke. He folded on obamacare like a tent.
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Paul has said he would consider Kucinich in his administration but I don't think he means as VP.
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I like Cain a lot.
It's a shame that unless he can freestyle to the "Rappers Delight" beat for 7.5 minutes, most brothers wont vote for him.
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It's a conspiracy by a small group when Paul gains ground-------it's awesome when Cain gains ground with even less followers lol... Yea, I got ya...
lol true
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I like Cain a lot.
It's a shame that unless he can freestyle to the "Rappers Delight" beat for 7.5 minutes, most brothers wont vote for him.
do you wake up in the middle of the night and think this stuff up???...wow
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I believe I could freestyle every political getbigger under the table.
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I believe I could freestyle every political getbigger under the table.
I agree, but only if "freestyle" is some new slang word for oral sex.
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I agree, but only if "freestyle" is some new slang word for oral sex.
lol, ouch.
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I agree, but only if "freestyle" is some new slang word for oral sex.
He has had plenty of practice the last three years.
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So, who will get elected?
Not Obama.
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Not Obama.
Cain combines a perotesqe presewntation. Without the quirkyness.
He also has a maturity and dignified approach that pales in comparison to maobama.
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Cain combines a perotesqe presewntation. Without the quirkyness.
He also has a maturity and dignified approach that pales in comparison to maobama.
He's miles ahead of Obama. I'm thinking he should be on the VP short list.
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He's miles ahead of Obama. I'm thinking he should be on the VP short list.
agreed, but we need a lifetime, consistent and intelligent candidate like Perry at the top of the ticket [/idiocy]
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Damn racist teabaggers!!!!
:D
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ah, yes. straw polls.
we all know how well that worked for Michelle Bachmann a few weeks ago...