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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BFG on November 03, 2011, 01:06:15 PM
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I already detailed the most effective way to use hGH in the offseason. Now, when we are dieting our primary concerns are efficient fat reduction and maintenance of muscle mass. hGH can help facilitate both of the goals to varying degrees dependent on its dosing protocol. The following is the most effective way to use hGH over the course of a standard 16 week contest prep diet (this should, of course, be used in combination with AAS and fat burners).
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A note in regards to dosing: the "sweet spot" for most in regards to hGH is 20-30iu's. Less than that tends to give suboptimal results from a bodybuilding standpoint and more than that tends to see diminishing returns. I chose 30iu's per day as the basis for this layout. For those struggling to make the financial commitment that this requires, a word of advice: hGH is nowhere near as expensive as the "sources" want you to think. Most of them buy it from around a nickel to twenty five cents per iu. Look toward bulk suppliers.
16 weeks out:
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5iu IM upon waking
5iu subq 4 hours later
(workout)
5iu IV post workout
5iu subq 2 hours later
5iu subq 4 hours later (before bed)
5iu IM middle of the night
12 weeks out
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5iu IM upon waking
5iu subq 4 hours later
(workout)
2.5iu IV post workout
2.5iu subq 2 hours later
5iu subq 4 hours later (before bed)
5iu IM 4 hours into sleep
5iu IM 6 hours into sleep
8 weeks out
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5iu IM upon waking
5iu subq 4 hours later
(workout)
5iu subq 60 mins after post workout shake/meal
5iu subq 4 hours later
5iu subq before bed
5iu IM middle of the night
2 weeks out
(only follow this step if completely conditioned and stage ready at this point)
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10iu IM upon waking
20iu IV post workout
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Thats not a hassle at all.
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Sweet baby Jesus :-X :-X :-X :-X
I need a GH source cheap enough to support that.
GH buffet
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hogwash advices >:(
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hogwash advices >:(
actually..not if you are top pro or top amateur with shitty response.
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5 - 25 cent per IU ?
So you're saying you can buy a 100 iu kit of gh for 5 - 25 bucks ?!
Not possible .. not even the shittiest blue tops without label and probably no gh in it are sold for that price.. not even if you buy them straight from the factory in large quantities will you get a kit for 5 dollars...not for 25 either.
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16 weeks out:
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5iu IM upon waking
5iu subq 4 hours later
(workout)
5iu IV post workout
5iu subq 2 hours later
5iu subq 4 hours later (before bed)
5iu IM middle of the night
hard to live life injecting so much
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S.c. injections are very easy and quick to do .. takes no time and does not hurt at all.
Some diabetics inject 5-6 times a day and usually they don't consider it a burden.
I.m. injections on the other hand do get annoying after a while especially when using short esthers where you have to inject daily.. for a short period of time like 8 weeks it's okay but after that I always get sloppy because it's just a pain in the arse .. ;D
No idea how some guys do 1-2 intramuscular injections every single day for years and years ..
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Injecting gh takes about 13 seconds. How busy are you guys that you can't spare about a minute a day?
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But we can't buy in bulk because that's "intent to supply" which is when they start watching you.
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For shit sake why does it have to be so expensive. You think a private chemist with some ambition would figure out how to make it cheaply in the U.S think of the money they would make selling kits for 75-100 bucks.
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For shit sake why does it have to be so expensive. You think a private chemist with some ambition would figure out how to make it cheaply in the U.S think of the money they would make selling kits for 75-100 bucks.
its not that expensive. the people that sell it make a hilarious profit margin off of those that buy 5,10,20 kits.
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liquid diamonds
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hGH is nowhere near as expensive as the "sources" want you to think. Most of them buy it from around a nickel to twenty five cents per iu. Look toward bulk suppliers.
makes sense for those doing 20-40i.u. a day. Always wondered with the prices paid around here, how the Pro's afford to do 20-40I.U.s daily.
In my neck of the woods
1i.u. goes for $3.90.
$10-$25 per 100i.u. kit vs. $390 would be GrandTheft auto.
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makes sense for those doing 20-40i.u. a day. Always wondered with the prices paid around here, how the Pro's afford to do 20-40I.U.s daily.
In my neck of the woods
1i.u. goes for $3.90.
$10-$25 per 100i.u. kit vs. $390 would be GrandTheft auto.
A lot of pros and amateurs are "sponsored" by underground labs. They receive all the AAS they need for free and GH in bulk at a very low price.
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completely unnecessary bullshit from the ever over-complicating bro scientist bfg.. 30iu gh ? GREAT.. take that shit in one shot.. whenever you feel like it..
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Not knocking your advice, but the return on investment for pinning IV isn't very strong.
I don't like to take part in stigma or taboo either, but fucking IV injections? Come on... pinning steroids and multiple peptides daily is more than enough to shame a man. I wouldn't pin GH if it were 20 times more effective IV. :-X
Hit the nail on the head about UGL sponsorship though. Every bodybuilder who's competing on a decent level is selling too. Some create a margin large enough to pay for their just their GH and some ancillaries, some create a margin large enough to pay their GH, mortgage, car payments, and recreational drug habits, etc. But if someone's putting that much GH into their system, the money isn't coming from very honest places. Why do people still ask "how do bodybuilders afford this!?!?!?"
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completely unnecessary bullshit from the ever over-complicating bro scientist bfg.. 30iu gh ? GREAT.. take that shit in one shot.. whenever you feel like it..
Cadidizzle logic. Take it all in one shot he says. That is what his boyfriend says when he anally sodomized him.
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Cadidizzle logic. Take it all in one shot he says. That is what his boyfriend says when he anally sodomized him.
haha the shoddy shops are always the best
bravo
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completely unnecessary bullshit from the ever over-complicating bro scientist bfg.. 30iu gh ? GREAT.. take that shit in one shot.. whenever you feel like it..
i sometimes think that you just want to "sound different"
yeah, fuck it, 30iu in one shot ::) rather than 6!! 5iu PULSES throughout the day!
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its not that expensive. the people that sell it make a hilarious profit margin off of those that buy 5,10,20 kits.
smart fella!
it is the goverments around the world who make profit on it that make it sound expensive,, i can tell you right now that KIGTROPIN HGH if legit kig is BETTER THAN ANY AMERICANA GH OUT THERE,, i woudl have say equivalent but no...kigtropin overdose it ,, the china men finaly did something right
gh15 approved
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completely unnecessary bullshit from the ever over-complicating bro scientist bfg.. 30iu gh ? GREAT.. take that shit in one shot.. whenever you feel like it..
no ,, you cant just shot it 30 iu ,, you wont like what you see ,, body need spikes it need to take it within hours to keep highest level for longest period of times,, the ones who shoot 15 iu one shot do not do it the right way,,
few shots a day 2-5 iu each
gh15 approved
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tbombz on suicide watch.
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I have always got better results from spliting up my doses of gh rather than all in one shot
Most ive used in one day...40iu
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In week 8 why wait one hr after workout for 5iu shot? ??? M
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i sometimes think that you just want to "sound different"
yeah, fuck it, 30iu in one shot ::) rather than 6!! 5iu PULSES throughout the day!
no ,, you cant just shot it 30 iu ,, you wont like what you see ,, body need spikes it need to take it within hours to keep highest level for longest period of times,, the ones who shoot 15 iu one shot do not do it the right way,,
few shots a day 2-5 iu each
gh15 approved
theres going to be absolutely no difference between the two methods.
waste your time though... i dont care
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Contest, LOL.
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no ,, you cant just shot it 30 iu ,, you wont like what you see ,, body need spikes it need to take it within hours to keep highest level for longest period of times,, the ones who shoot 15 iu one shot do not do it the right way,,
few shots a day 2-5 iu each
gh15 approved
Do you pre-load the shots all at once in the morning?
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Do you pre-load the shots all at once in the morning?
yeah, just put it all in the same syringe. no need for 5-6 different pins.
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For shit sake why does it have to be so expensive. You think a private chemist with some ambition would figure out how to make it cheaply in the U.S think of the money they would make selling kits for 75-100 bucks.
Chemist could "cook" GH at home, so to speak, IF - the lab equipment required to assemble all these amino acids would be cheaper. The last time I checked it was in "million" range or so. Tho' it was a few years ago, it should be cheaper by now, and generally - lab equipment is getting cheaper by the day, so in 3-5years GH should be like - half in the price it is currently. Well that's just my speculation anyway..
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How do pro's do it when on the road? Go to the nearest toilet every few hours and inject in the stall?
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Chemist could "cook" GH at home, so to speak, IF - the lab equipment required to assemble all these amino acids would be cheaper. The last time I checked it was in "million" range or so. Tho' it was a few years ago, it should be cheaper by now, and generally - lab equipment is getting cheaper by the day, so in 3-5years GH should be like - half in the price it is currently. Well that's just my speculation anyway..
you know the strange part about gh,,the best modern syntetic 191 gh i persoanlty useda long the years was made in underground lab,,this is the pathetic thing,,never cme with anything aside from vials and poweder that was in a pack/sphere/roun disc shape,, didnt have any special finish ,,was lookin like sand tecture,, but! after using ....for coupel days....you saw just how pure and how overdosed product was ,, ofcourse it was back in the past where not many did gh ...and it was easier to work with because most fellas took seros...but todsay when everyone does generics,, the fakes are all over
gh15 approved
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you know the strange part about gh,,the best modern syntetic 191 gh i persoanlty useda long the years was made in underground lab,,this is the pathetic thing,,never cme with anything aside from vials and poweder that was in a pack/sphere/roun disc shape,, didnt have any special finish ,,was lookin like sand tecture,, but! after using ....for coupel days....you saw just how pure and how overdosed product was ,, ofcourse it was back in the past where not many did gh ...and it was easier to work with because most fellas took seros...but todsay when everyone does generics,, the fakes are all over
gh15 approved
whatever "gh", now go get victor out of jail 8)
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Cadidizzle logic. Take it all in one shot he says. That is what his boyfriend says when he anally sodomized him.
LOL. Tbombz do you smoke poles? Are you a peter puffer?
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theres going to be absolutely no difference between the two methods.
waste your time though... i dont care
How the fuck would you know? You would have to steal money from your parents to buy one kit of shitty blue tops. You have probably never even ran any gh and you are telling people to shoot all 30 iu's at once? LOL!!!!
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you know the strange part about gh,,the best modern syntetic 191 gh i persoanlty useda long the years was made in underground lab,,this is the pathetic thing,,never cme with anything aside from vials and poweder that was in a pack/sphere/roun disc shape,, didnt have any special finish ,,was lookin like sand tecture,, but! after using ....for coupel days....you saw just how pure and how overdosed product was ,, ofcourse it was back in the past where not many did gh ...and it was easier to work with because most fellas took seros...but todsay when everyone does generics,, the fakes are all over
gh15 approved
Yeah..tho' that must've been some fancy labs too, even if underground, as it's quite the state of the art machinery required to produce 191 (well maybe there are shortcuts that I'm not aware of). But I'm sure there are good UG labs with an expensive equipment anyway...
Plenty of bunk shit these days, plenty. I know someone who searched for a legit GH, bought like 4 or 5 diff. brands from various sources, took all of that to an expensive lab (I'm not sure how they check it, must be some kind of test to test the dilluted gh. I mean - not by IGF in the blood..) and only ONE was legit. Other were either completely bunk, or severly underdosed (maybe damaged/degraded, who knows..).
BTW, guys talking prices. I know that some bulk suppliers get 1iu for like 1.5USD, so it's 150USD 100iu kit, that was considered a "very good price" where I'm at, like a year ago.
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theres going to be absolutely no difference between the two methods.
waste your time though... i dont care
from which book did you read this from seeing as you are only a few years out from your teens and only done test only cycles?
this isnt the "1 meal vs. 6 meal" a day debate, tbombz.
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from which book did you read this from seeing as you are only a few years out from your teens and only done test only cycles?
this isnt the "1 meal vs. 6 meal" a day debate, tbombz.
Tbombs is google king, lol