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Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
November 7, 2011 (MUNDELEIN, Ill.) (WLS) -- Sharon Bialek, who lives in suburban Mundelein, said Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain reached under her skirt 14 years ago when she was asked him about a job.
In this Intelligence Report: Who is Sharon Bialek? The Chicago-area woman has an extensive corporate and personal history in the area going back to the early 1990s.
It was her hope for a new job that Bialek says brought her to Herman Cain that day in 1997. Bialek's resume and a trail of public records indicates that changing jobs has been a regular occurrence for the Chicagoan. She has worked for at least nine different employers over the past 17 years and appears to have struggled financially.
The public record on Bialek begins in 1991 when she filed personal bankruptcy for the first time while living in Des Plaines.
Between 1993 and 1996 Bialek worked for four different companies in promotion and marketing positions.
In 1996, and part of 1997, Bialek was at the National Restaurant Association. After being let go from that job in mid-1997, she says that she went to Washington, D.C., to meet with Cain, president of the association, because she needed a job.
In 1999, Bialek's son Nicholas was born and a paternity lawsuit was filed by the father, a media executive.
In 2001 came Bialek's second personal bankruptcy, filed after sizable legal bills. That year she was hired by WGN radio where she worked until 2004 when she took a marketing job and then a job at WCKG radio.
Along the way, according to her attorney, Bialek also held positions with Revlon and Easter Seals.
Bialek currently lives in Mundelein with fiance Mark Harwood.
"She's of the same political persuasion as Herman Cain," Harwood said. "There was no money on the table to go and have an interview. This is truly about an American girl who's got a big heart and wants to do the right thing."
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8422203
Broke gal who can't keep a job? Got canned by an NRA? Filed for bankruptcy twice? Now, she convienently comes out to put a face on the alleged victims with, SURPRISE, Gloria Allred?
BTW, why was she canned by NRA again?
Hmmmm.......Folks, you don't supposed she offered to blow Cain to get her job back?
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Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
November 7, 2011 (MUNDELEIN, Ill.) (WLS) -- Sharon Bialek, who lives in suburban Mundelein, said Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain reached under her skirt 14 years ago when she was asked him about a job.
In this Intelligence Report: Who is Sharon Bialek? The Chicago-area woman has an extensive corporate and personal history in the area going back to the early 1990s.
It was her hope for a new job that Bialek says brought her to Herman Cain that day in 1997. Bialek's resume and a trail of public records indicates that changing jobs has been a regular occurrence for the Chicagoan. She has worked for at least nine different employers over the past 17 years and appears to have struggled financially.
The public record on Bialek begins in 1991 when she filed personal bankruptcy for the first time while living in Des Plaines.
Between 1993 and 1996 Bialek worked for four different companies in promotion and marketing positions.
In 1996, and part of 1997, Bialek was at the National Restaurant Association. After being let go from that job in mid-1997, she says that she went to Washington, D.C., to meet with Cain, president of the association, because she needed a job.
In 1999, Bialek's son Nicholas was born and a paternity lawsuit was filed by the father, a media executive.
In 2001 came Bialek's second personal bankruptcy, filed after sizable legal bills. That year she was hired by WGN radio where she worked until 2004 when she took a marketing job and then a job at WCKG radio.
Along the way, according to her attorney, Bialek also held positions with Revlon and Easter Seals.
Bialek currently lives in Mundelein with fiance Mark Harwood.
"She's of the same political persuasion as Herman Cain," Harwood said. "There was no money on the table to go and have an interview. This is truly about an American girl who's got a big heart and wants to do the right thing."
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8422203
Broke gal who can't keep a job? Got canned by an NRA-run organization? Filed for bankruptcy twice? Now, she convienently comes out to put a face on the alleged victims with, SURPRISE, Gloria Allred?
Sharon is not making a dime off of any of this. Hope this helps.
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Sharon is not making a dime off of any of this. Hope this helps.
And neither did Nicki Diaz make any change for her blubbering........
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Verrrry interesting.
She doesn't make money off the press conference. She makes money for interviews, book deal, etc. that comes after the press conference.
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Verrrry interesting.
She doesn't make money off the press conference. She makes money for interviews, book deal, etc. that comes after the press conference.
And, word is, she may be hitting the daytime shows with Allred. NAAAAAHH!!! They ain't getting no cash for that!!
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The resident Toms are melting all over the place. I love it.
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she might be an opportunist, she might be lying, and she might cash in with a nice 100k to speak to barbara walters.
But, she might be telling the truth.
IF IF IF she passes a polygraph, then I dont think yall can defend cain...
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The resident Toms are melting all over the place. I love it.
The only ones who will be melting are the TK members like you, in a year, in the event Obama gets his clock cleaned by whoever get the GOP nod.
Melting is what you did, when your stupid "Obama is a closet atheist" flap got taken to pieces.
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she might be an opportunist, she might be lying, and she might cash in with a nice 100k to speak to barbara walters.
But, she might be telling the truth.
IF IF IF she passes a polygraph, then I dont think yall can defend cain...
I don't deal with "mights", when it comes to issues like this.
As I've said from the start, I'm giving Cain the benefit of the doubt, until some concrete legitimate proof says otherwise.
A broke woman, conveniently lined up with a left-winged legal hack, involved in smear campaign against another GOP candidate a year ago, only when Cain surges to the top of the GOP pack doesn't (who conveniently won't sue and had NO FILING in court, the police, or the NRA whatsoever for a decade and a half) doesn't cut it.
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And, word is, she may be hitting the daytime shows with Allred. NAAAAAHH!!! They ain't getting no cash for that!!
These kinds of dirty tricks are just so wrong. How do you defend yourself from a 14-year-old allegation like this? Gutter politics. Obama must be loving this.
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she might be an opportunist, she might be lying, and she might cash in with a nice 100k to speak to barbara walters.
But, she might be telling the truth.
IF IF IF she passes a polygraph, then I dont think yall can defend cain...
$15 trillion in debt and you're talking about what some guy did 15 years ago.
He who lives in glass houses, bachelor party boy. PAGING MATT T! :)
I kid, I kid on the last part.
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$15 trillion in debt and you're talking about what some guy did 15 years ago.
He who lives in glass houses, bachelor party boy. PAGING MATT T! :)
I kid, I kid on the last part.
We KNOW what Obama's fumblings and bumblings are. We got proof of that. But, we're supposed to concentrate on foolishness like this, based on allegations that would crumble in a court of law.
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We KNOW what Obama's fumblings and bumblings are. We got proof of that. But, we're supposed to concentrate on foolishness like this, based on allegations that would crumble in a court of law.
Just look at what the MSM has accomplished with this. Between this and OWS, they've managed to make it almost 2 months now without having to talk about the deficit or Downgrade's destruction of our economy. Expect them to peddle more and more shit like this as they run interference for Downgrade's reelection. Got to keep the voter distracted.
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Dick Morris says he looks forward to Bialek's spread in Playboy.........PRICELES S!!!
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Just look at what the MSM has accomplished with this. Between this and OWS, they've managed to make it almost 2 months now without having to talk about the deficit or Downgrade's destruction of our economy. Expect them to peddle more and more shit like this as they run interference for Downgrade's reelection. Got to keep the voter distracted.
Yep, women with legitimate charges of rape at OWS are going to the police. But this woman has to wait nearly 15 years, before coming forward (not to the police, or NRA, or EEOC, or any other entity that can do something about it) but to Gloria Allred.
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This woman is a pofs and a liar. Other than money , why is she. Trying to coe forward now?
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Sharon Bialek’s Fiance Backs Her ’100 Percent’ (FIANCE HEARD ABOUT IT ONLY ON FRIDAY! Wolf! Wolf!)
CBS ^ | 11/7/2011
The fiance of Sharon Bialek tells WBBM Newsradio that Bialek just told him about the alleged sexual harassment on Friday evening.
(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.cbslocal.com ...
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Sharon Bialek plans morning TV interviews
Pravda -Politico ^ | 11/7/2011 | Burns Haberman
Posted on November 7, 2011 5:05:22 PM EST by VinL
Herman Cain accuser Sharon Bialek plans "as of now" to appear on two morning television shows Tuesday, her lawyer, Gloria Allred, said.
Bialek's allegation that Cain made an aggressive and unwanted sexual advance in 1997 has reignited the week-old controversy over reports of Cain's personal misconduct. And every national interview Bialek — or Allred — gives will make this even more problematic for Cain's campaign.
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This woman is a pofs and a liar. Other than money , why is she. Trying to coe forward now?
Maybe she doesn`t like black cock being forced in her face and nasty black fingers trailing up her skirt.
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Maybe she doesn`t like black cock being forced in her face and nasty black fingers trailing up her skirt.
Then why didn't she say a word then?
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Then why didn't she say a word then?
Maybe she did, it just wasn`t news because Herman "Deeba Dobba" Cain was a nobody.
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Maybe she doesn`t like black cock being forced in her face and nasty black fingers trailing up her skirt.
Or maybe she was willing to slob on Cain's knob to get her job back?
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Or maybe she was willing to slob on Cain's knob to get her job back?
She wasn`t.
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She wasn`t.
So why was she talking to Cain in the first place, after getting canned by NRA?
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So why was she talking to Cain in the first place, after getting canned by NRA?
So you are saying it was for a blowjob?
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So you are saying it was for a blowjob?
She is probably trying to launch a media career. Again if she is broke - who is paying for alred?
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I haven't seen her interview on Piers Morgan tonight - But the blogosphere reaction is that she was very well prepared, made no mistakes, and has seriously made her case.
Cain just announced a tuesday morning press conference aobut the claims.
This must be the part where, after calling it 100% untrue, he will 'recall' some details (which happen to be exactly those she reveals on tv tonight).
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Cain should just come out and say he loves the ladies and he will be fine. Shit, Obama loves the commies and domestic terrorists and he made it, why not a horn dog?
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So you are saying it was for a blowjob?
I am saying that these allegations are dubious at best, and ludicrous at worst.
She got fired by NRA; she goes to Cain to try and get her job back. She doesn't get her job back.....NOW, nearly 15 years later (with the shadiest left-winged legal hack, walking this planet), after a previous story fizzled out, here comes this broke blonde.
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Cain should just come out and say he loves the ladies and he will be fine. Shit, Obama loves the commies and domestic terrorists and he made it, why not a horn dog?
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2803981/posts
FR taking down this gold digger.
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Cain should just come out and say he loves the ladies and he will be fine. Shit, Obama loves the commies and domestic terrorists and he made it, why not a horn dog?
agreed.
But he will not.
He will tell us he's the victim, he doesn't want to talk about any of the charges or answer any Qs, but we can take his word that it's all false and he barely remembers any of it, but knows to a certainty that it's not true.
WASHINGTON (Reuters)
The poll showed the percentage of Republicans who view Cain favorably dropped 9 percentage points, to 57 percent from 66 percent a week ago.
Among all registered voters, Cain's favorability declined 5 percentage points, to 32 percent from 37 percent.
The survey represents the first evidence that sexual harassment claims dating from Cain's time as head of the National Restaurant Association have taken a toll on his presidential campaign.
A majority of respondents, 53 percent, believe sexual harassment allegations against Cain are true despite his denials. Republicans were less likely to believe they are true, with 39 percent thinking they are accurate.
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Again - all he needed to do is say "I have a few past events where people misconstrued my good nature to something else, and it was dealt with". And all would go away!
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Look,
America does not want a Black Sexual deviate who prays on white women as President. Its as simple as that. Even if they loved each other (this is not the case), America does not want it. America is tired of all the Mudsharkery as it is. I hope this helps.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2803981/posts
FR taking down this gold digger.
She screwed a married CEO and had a child with him?
Hmmmmm........so that would mean that she would not beneath (so to speak) blowing Cain to get her job back.
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Look,
America does not want a Black Sexual deviate who prays on white women as President. Its as simple as that. Even if they loved each other (this is not the case), America does not want it. America is tired of all the Mudsharkery as it is. I hope this helps.
LOL. As if we want four more years of a black radical communist destroyer?
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She screwed a married CEO and had a child with him?
Hmmmmm........so that would mean that she would not beneath (so to speak) blowing Cain to get her job back.
That is why FR is still my favorite site.
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LOL. As if we want four more years of a black radical communist destroyer?
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My personal assistant lives in NC, I told her if she votes for Obama she is fired.
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LOL. As if we want four more years of a black radical communist destroyer?
But, that's OK! He's a closet atheist ::).
That is why FR is still my favorite site.
A broke blonde, used to banging CEOs, goes to Cain to try and get her job back? Perhaps, SHE proposed the Lewinsky to him and she said "No, Thank YOU!!"
Now, the IRS is chasing her; she's been bankrupt twice, has a baby from another CEO and can't keep a job for more than two years. Yet, Adonis is stupid enough to think she's doing all this for FREE, all for the good of our country.
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Again - all he needed to do is say "I have a few past events where people misconstrued my good nature to something else, and it was dealt with". And all would go away!
agreed.
he wont.
it's that pride, ego thing that martha stewart had.. "I'm smarter than all of them".
Whoever you are- no, you're NOT smarter than the combined collective power of Rove, MSNBC, and politico. Sorry. If you tried to stick it to other women, it will come out, and yes, proof will be there before you know it.
I guess I wanna know... how many more times of Cain outright lying about it will repubs take, before they just tell him to fck off and focus on another candidate?
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Cain needs to just do a mea culpa and this will all go away.
Cain / Newt / Bachmann / Paul need to team up somehow to keep Romney away.
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Cain needs to just do a mea culpa and this will all go away.
agreed. I think you and I are in agreement that he's no saint. And he's no genius. And he's not all that good at crisis mgmt.
But, his pride and ego are huge. he won't get down to apologizing. He'll keep playing the victim. but fewer and fewer repubs are approving of him - he lost 10% approval in a week? Let's see what a month does.
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agreed. I think you and I are in agreement that he's no saint. And he's no genius. And he's not all that good at crisis mgmt.
But, his pride and ego are huge. he won't get down to apologizing. He'll keep playing the victim. but fewer and fewer repubs are approving of him - he lost 10% approval in a week? Let's see what a month does.
it's incredible how these fools still don't get it.
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it's incredible how these fools still don't get it.
that kind of insane ego is what makes them get to the top, to decide to run for president.
look at the top group - Ron Paul is probably the only one among them - dem or repub - that isn't a self-centered psychopath that believes the world is theirs ala scarface. This includes rudy, hilary, mitt, edwards, perry, cain, and obama.
They believe the hype about themselves. They lack that feeling of anxiety most feel when they're dead wrong - they buckle down and appeal to the lowest common denominator of their base.
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that kind of insane ego is what makes them get to the top, to decide to run for president.
look at the top group - Ron Paul is probably the only one among them - dem or repub - that isn't a self-centered psychopath that believes the world is theirs ala scarface. This includes rudy, hilary, mitt, edwards, perry, cain, and obama.
They believe the hype about themselves. They lack that feeling of anxiety most feel when they're dead wrong - they buckle down and appeal to the lowest common denominator of their base.
I am trying not to get banned froM FR as ot is.
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If cain had come out - without details - and just said "yeah, I had a problem with fidelity and aggressive flirting, but I found the bible and left that world" - then none of these accusers would have any impact at all. The response would be "yeah, we already know that, who cares..."
Cain's ego prevents him from doing that.
He lies. And the lies are so obvious. During that press conference from press club, you could tell every single lie. His breath froze, his brow got furrowed, he blinked twice, and above all, his posture stiffened every time he lied. Like, trying to sell it as a professional. I called it, and I'm sure body language experts saw it too.
Now he can only lie and dig deeper.
He didn't know. Then he recalled.
Leftist racists did it. Then perry did it. then not perry. Then perry again. Then he doesn't want to talk about it.
The bitches are all lying, but I don't want to talk about any of it.
The NRA cleared it and there's "no need" to ever look into it.
I don't know of any settlement, then oh yeah, I just remembered all the detailed conversations we had of that settlement.
Only a fool believes cain is telling them the truth.
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Cain needs to either come clean or drop out. This is so easy!
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If cain had come out - without details - and just said "yeah, I had a problem with fidelity and aggressive flirting, but I found the bible and left that world" - then none of these accusers would have any impact at all. The response would be "yeah, we already know that, who cares..."
Cain's ego prevents him from doing that.
And what proof of that did you have? ZILCH!!! You are going on foolishness from anonymous sources who had the opportunities to talk but didn't?
He lies. And the lies are so obvious. During that press conference from press club, you could tell every single lie. His breath froze, his brow got furrowed, he blinked twice, and above all, his posture stiffened every time he lied. Like, trying to sell it as a professional. I called it, and I'm sure body language experts saw it too.
Now he can only lie and dig deeper.
He didn't know. Then he recalled.
Leftist racists did it. Then perry did it. then not perry. Then perry again. Then he doesn't want to talk about it.
The bitches are all lying, but I don't want to talk about any of it.
The NRA cleared it and there's "no need" to ever look into it.
I don't know of any settlement, then oh yeah, I just remembered all the detailed conversations we had of that settlement.
Only a fool believes cain is telling them the truth.
Only a fool believes such flimsy claims with no proof to back them.
About what did Cain lie again? He said he didn't remember any settlement. The reports show that Cain left 2-3 months before any "settlement" occured. And, as CNN and Politico stated the "settlement" was actually what I said it appeared to be from the start: A SEVERANCE PACKAGE. At least one of the ladies had some other issues that had nothing to do with Cain.
I posted that story a few days ago. There was little to nothing to those claims and Bennett admitted that it got solved quickly, as a result (again, after Cain was gone and with his name ABSENT from this severance deal).
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Cain needs to either come clean or drop out. This is so easy!
he's a playa. Nothing wrong with that.
In this day and age, a good looking, wealthy dude like Cain flirted with women and tried to get his freak on.
But that doesnt match up with the image he cultivates to win curry with the republican religious base.
and LYING about it - that's bad.
5th accuser said cain tried to get a dinner date with her. Shit like that isn't criminal, but it does make him look like a shady dude.
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he's a playa. Nothing wrong with that.
In this day and age, a good looking, wealthy dude like Cain flirted with women and tried to get his freak on.
But that doesnt match up with the image he cultivates to win curry with the republican religious base.
and LYING about it - that's bad.
5th accuser said cain tried to get a dinner date with her. Shit like that isn't criminal, but it does make him look like a shady dude.
He's no playa. He's pathetic and lacks charisma. He's too stiff...he lacks that jovial side...take a look at that pic with him and his wife---he is the quinessential "stiff" from Morehouse.
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pretty sad shit seeing the right blame the victim. I guess this is justified in your minds because of Ted Kennedy or some shit?
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suntimes
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Witness: Cain accuser hugged him during Tea Party meeting a month ago
By MICHAEL SNEED
msneed@suntimes.com
Last Modified: Nov 8, 2011 06:58AM
The Cain Encounter ...
They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends.
She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear.
She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.”
Huh?
“I don’t know if what she was giving him was a sucker punch, but he didn’t put his arm down while she was talking to him,” said the Sneed source.
◆The “he”... is GOP presidential contender Herman Cain, who has been accused of sexual harassment by several women.
◆The “she”... is Chicagoan Sharon Bialek, who held a news conference Tuesday as the only woman to PUBLICLY accuse Cain of sexual harassment.
◆The Sneed source ... is WIND radio co-host Amy Jacobson, who tells Sneed she witnessed the Cain/Bialek encounter a month ago while backstage at the AM 560 WIND sponsored TeaCon meeting in Schaumburg Sept. 30-Oct. 1 at the Renaissance Hotel and Convention Center.
◆Quoth Jacobson: “I had turned on TV to find out who was Cain’s accuser, and I almost fell over when I saw it was Sharon Bialek accusing Cain of groping her genitals.”
“I was waiting for Herman Cain’s ‘Accuser No. 4’ to surface — and up pops Sharon!”
“I couldn’t believe it. I was shocked.”
“I recall Sharon was hell bent on going backstage at the TeaCon convention — where she cornered him,” said Jacobson.
“I was surprised to hear she claims she did not know Cain was going to be there. Cain was expected and was late.”
Bialek told the media on Monday: “I went up to him and asked him if he remembered me. I wanted to see if he would be man enough to own up to what he had done 14 years ago.”
◆The encounter: “It looked sort of flirtatious,” said Jacobson. “I mean they were hugging. But she could have been giving him the kiss of death for all I know. I had no idea what they were talking about, but she was inches from his ear.”
◆The introduction: “It all began when I took a convention break and joined my pals at the hotel bar. Sharon was drinking Mimosas with them. She said she was a Republican, a Tea Party member, had once dated [White Sox sports announcer’ Steve Stone] and had worked at WGN radio.”
◆The rendezvous: Sharon also said she was anxious to meet Cain again and had once gone to an afterparty with him and her boyfriend years ago. But she never mentioned he had sexually harassed her.”
◆The upshot: Bialek has since applied for employment in sales at WIND radio and is scheduled for a second interview Thursday.
So it goes.
Blago beat ...
Pencils poised: Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s sentencing on federal corruption charges is set for Dec. 6. Watch for a Christmas request.
A Royal note...
The goods news: Prince William and wife, Kate (nee Middleton) get to move into the Kensington Palace apartment the lesser royals have always coveted: the late Princess Margaret’s digs.
◆The bad news: The rooms are painted pink and turquoise ... colors apparently loved by ladies who tipple and smoke.
The Jackson trial …
How convenient: Betcha the jury in the trial of Michael Jackson’s personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, relied heavily on the juror who has a degree biochemistry and medical laboratory sciences.
Sneedlings ...
Today’s birthdays: Christie Hefner, ageless; Bonnie Raitt, 62, and Morley Safer, 80, and belated wishes to
WHAT A FUCKING LIAR.
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lol!
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i think they hooked up. the hotel upgrade, the travel to meet each other.
I think they did fck around - but what can Cain say? No I didn't hit on her, I hit it in a hotel room? ???
his denial was particularly interesting - "I did not HARASS anybody".
He didn't deny upgrading the hotel room or traveling to meet her or doing dinner and drinks and whatever else.
Maybe his 5pm press conference today is so he can announce he was just having some affairs. Which is fine. Except last week he was mocking people who asked such a thing.
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I think they did fck around - but what can Cain say? No I didn't hit on her, I hit it in a hotel room? ???
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He could say, "I did not have sex w/that woman..... Miss Bialek." ;D
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pretty sad shit seeing the right blame the victim. I guess this is justified in your minds because of Ted Kennedy or some shit?
What's pathetic is you're condemning Cain, before all the facts are into play.
Again, are we supposed to now believe that this woman, who just happens to be BROKE, who apparently has a history of trying to screw her boss (and has a kid to prove it), waited nearly FIFTEEN YEARS to talk about what is (if remotely true) SEXUAL ASSAULT, not merely harrassment?
And she just has to talk, not when Cain ran for the Senate, or became an associated pastor, nor when he was thought to have no chance of winning, but ONLY when he's in the lead in the GOP race?
Furthermore, of ALL THE LAWYERS from sea to shining sea, she ends up with the biggest political ambulance chaser walking.....who JUST SO HAPPENS to have been in a smear campaign of another GOP candidate LAST YEAR (using a maid we found out was a big LIAR, illegal alien, and identity thief).
Let me ask you, Hugo. Your girlfriend/wife tells you that someone was "sexually inappropriate" with her. And you do NOTHING?
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What's pathetic is you're condemning Cain, before all the facts are into play.
What's pathetic is also that you're DEFENDING Cain - before all the facts come into play.
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What's pathetic is also that you're DEFENDING Cain - before all the facts come into play.
I havent seen you this excited since Palins' baby issue and the rumored affair.
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Furthermore, of ALL THE LAWYERS from sea to shining sea, she ends up with the biggest political ambulance chaser walking.....who JUST SO HAPPENS to have been in a smear campaign of another GOP candidate LAST YEAR (using a maid we found out was a big LIAR, illegal alien, and identity thief).
Didn't Gloria Allred also take down Michael jackson and Anthony weiner?
You're not going to get two bigger libs than that.
IMO, she goes where the 'victims' are. Has she ever had a fraud vicitm before? I know many lawyers require their clients to take a poly to ensure they don't get embarassed.
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I havent seen you this excited since Palins' baby issue and the rumored affair.
you mean since another over-confident, under-qualified, and blissfully proud of their own shortcomings fraud tried to steal the GOp nomination and ensure a lib rules for 4 years?
Sounds about right champ.
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Now it's REALLY GETTING GOOD.
There's a report out that Bialek might not be so broke anymore. Try 5 million bucks to trump up this story about Cain.
Who could turn down $5M+ put in an offshore bank account in exchange for lying about sexual advancements made by Herman Cain? Sharon Bialek, who seems more likely a Liberal from Chicago with powerhouse celebrity lawyer and liberal activist Gloria Allred in her corner as opposed to the Tea Party supporter she claims to be. Many believe Bialek a paid agent of the Obama campaign. Now Bialek is being accused of making false accusations of sexual harassment against Herman Cain. Bialek’s claims against Cain may begin becoming unglued if an independent private investigator, who wishes to remain anonymous at this time, provides evidence showing Bialek is being paid to lie in order to derail Herman Cain’s presidential campaign. A Spokesperson representing the PI firm claims that Democrat operatives are out to destroy Cain who is seen as a threat to Obama’s reelection. The source also confirms they have evidence that the Democrat party plans to launch a similar smear campaign against Mitt Romney when the time is right. After hearing her statement read today at a news conference with Gloria Allred by her side, many felt Bialek’s story seems as if she was telling it (or reading it from her prepared statement) for the very first time.
http://www.dividedstates.com/sharon-bialek-paid-undislcosed-amount-to-lie-about-herman-cain-sexual-harrasment-charge/
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What's pathetic is also that you're DEFENDING Cain - before all the facts come into play.
You are a racist.
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Didn't Gloria Allred also take down Michael jackson and Anthony weiner?
You're not going to get two bigger libs than that.
IMO, she goes where the 'victims' are. Has she ever had a fraud vicitm before? I know many lawyers require their clients to take a poly to ensure they don't get embarassed.
Nope!
Jackson was CLEARED of his 2005 charges; Weiner took down himself by claiming Breitbart was trying to frame him. Allred stepped in, after Weiner stepped down, trying to get the loot from him.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058983/Murky-past-Herman-Cain-accuser-Sharon-Bialek-starts-emerge.html?ITO=1490
She is total trash.
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What's pathetic is also that you're DEFENDING Cain - before all the facts come into play.
Hardly!! It's the pesky concept we have called "INNOCENT, until proven guilty!".
Now, if you want the opposite, I hear the Middle East will be glad to accomodate you.
The one person who comes forward just happens to be (once again):
- BROKE
- Chronically unemployed (9 jobs in 17 years)
- known for screwing her boss and having a baby with him
- silent for nearly a decade and a half, despite describing what is commonly called SEXUAL ASSAULT
- aligned with the biggest legal hack, walking God's green earth (who smeared another GOP candidate just last year)
- now rumored to be gettin 5 million smackers to lie on Cain
- hugging and smiling with Cain, LESS THAN A MONTH AGO.
And, I'm supposed to believe her over Cain? RRRIIIIIIIIGHHHHTT!!!!!
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and don't forget rush says :D :D :D :D
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and don't forget rush says :D :D :D :D
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and don't forget rush says :D :D :D :D
Sorry to burst your bubble, O card-carrying TK member, but, Rush has little to do with this one, though I'm sure he'll join in the skewering of this woman.
Try addressing the facts at hand, or maybe answering a question or two, that was asked of your a week and a half ago.
Otherwise, take your cluckings elsewhere.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, O card-carrying TK member, but, Rush has little to do with this one, though I'm sure he'll join in the skewering of this woman.
Try addressing the facts at hand, or maybe answering a question or two, that was asked of your a week and a half ago.
Otherwise, take your cluckings elsewhere.
translation don't talk about my black jesus :D
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translation don't talk about my black jesus :D
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translation don't talk about my black jesus :D
You're projecting again, and you're ducking the question still, O cowardly one.
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Herman Cain told FOX News’ Greta Van Susteren on Monday night that any and all sexual harassment claims, past and future, were “baseless” and “not credible.”
Cain told the FOX host that he believed the claims were coming out now “because I’m doing so well in this Republican presidential campaign.”
“I’m in the top tier,” he said, adding that “a lot of people have a problem with the fact that I’m doing so well and I’m so likable.”
The awkward half-hour interview capped a long day of public appearances and shifting explanations over a report in Politico that the National Restaurant Association reached financial settlements with two women who claimed Cain had sexually harassed them.
Whereas earlier in the day, Cain said that he wasn’t aware there was any deal reached with any of the women in question, he told Van Susteren that in fact he was aware of one of the settlements.
According to Cain, his general counsel told him at the conclusion of the incident that “this started out where she and her lawyer were demanding a huge financial settlement — I dont remember the number… but then he said the good news is because there was no basis for this we ended up settling for what would have been a termination settlement, quite frankly, maybe three months salary or something like that.”
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Blackass - what is the word in your group home over this?
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Herman Cain told FOX News’ Greta Van Susteren on Monday night that any and all sexual harassment claims, past and future, were “baseless” and “not credible.”
Cain told the FOX host that he believed the claims were coming out now “because I’m doing so well in this Republican presidential campaign.”
“I’m in the top tier,” he said, adding that “a lot of people have a problem with the fact that I’m doing so well and I’m so likable.”
The awkward half-hour interview capped a long day of public appearances and shifting explanations over a report in Politico that the National Restaurant Association reached financial settlements with two women who claimed Cain had sexually harassed them.
Whereas earlier in the day, Cain said that he wasn’t aware there was any deal reached with any of the women in question, he told Van Susteren that in fact he was aware of one of the settlements.
According to Cain, his general counsel told him at the conclusion of the incident that “this started out where she and her lawyer were demanding a huge financial settlement — I dont remember the number… but then he said the good news is because there was no basis for this we ended up settling for what would have been a termination settlement, quite frankly, maybe three months salary or something like that.”
And what was awkward about the interview again? Cain's name isn't even on the agreement and, consistent with what the lawyer, Joe Bennett, found (when he finally got a copy of the agreement) Cain was gone with the settlement was reached.
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Blackass - what is the word in your group home over this?
50,000 post about obama 24/7 who's the baby :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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50,000 post about obama 24/7 who's the baby :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Recap:
The settlement agreement between the National Restaurant Association and a woman who accused Herman Cain of sexual harassment was reached in September 1999--and was not signed by Cain himself, according to Joel Bennett, a lawyer for the woman.
Bennett, who has a copy of the settlement agreement, said four people signed it: the woman, two lawyers representing the association and Bennett himself.
Bennett said the agreement was resolved relatively quickly, about two or three months after she complained.
That means it may have been reached after Cain left the association, and Bennett said it's conceivable that Cain didn't even know about it.
Bennett also told CBS News Friday morning he is hoping to issue a public statement reaffirming the accuser's claim within hours, if the restaurant group agrees to ease the confidentiality agreement that was part of the deal.
Bennett plans to issue the statement in his name, not in his client's name. It will not identify her, nor will it detail specific events of sexual harassment or the amount of settlement.
"It will insist the complaints were in good faith, and she's going to stand by her complaints," Bennett told CBS News. "It's her response to Herman Cain's statements that the complaints are baseless."
Cain left the association June 30, 1999, according to the NRA. Under that timeline, Cain would have been gone when the settlement was reached--and may well have been gone when she filed the complaint.
Cain has insisted he only knew of one complaint, and says he knew of no legal settlements--only what he calls a severance agreement with one woman. This timeline could well bolster his claims.
When Cain ran to represent Georgia in the Senate four years later, he told his advisers there was one complaint against him at the Restaurant Association, and that it was "baseless." One former staffer on the Senate campaign told CBS News that he and other advisers in the campaign knew about that complaint and believed it was meritless, but thought it could crop up in possible opposition research.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57318500-503544/cain-did-not-sign-settlement-accusers-lawyer-says/
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When Politico dropped a thinly sourced bombshell story about sexual harassment allegations against Cain back when he ran the National Restaurant Association, I thought it might actually help the former Godfather Pizza CEO. Anything would be better than trying to answer questions about his “9-9-9″ tax plan, I reasoned, and early this morning it looked as though Republicans were rallying around Cain as a victim of “liberal media.” Laura Ingraham suggested her talk show listeners should “Occupy Politico,” and Rush Limbaugh insisted the publication is racist. Listening to conservatives denounce Politico as liberal is great fun given Politico’s ties to the Republican Party.
But after refusing to answer Politico’s questions for at least 10 days, Cain began addressing the allegations on Monday, and as the old political cliché goes, the coverup, or the cover story, may wind up being worse than the crime. First he insisted he didn’t know about any settlements paid by the restaurant group. “If the Restaurant Association did a settlement I wasn’t even aware of it and I hope it wasn’t for much because nothing happened,” Cain told Fox. Then he said he knew about the allegations and the settlements, but “recused himself” and let the group’s human relations director handle them. But Politico followed up with former HR director Mary Ose, who said she had nothing to do with handling any allegations against Cain. Told that Cain said she did, Ose insisted, “He did not say that.” When reporter Jonathan Martin read her Cain’s claims, Ose then replied, “You and I have talked and I have nothing to say.”
Toward the end of the day, Cain sat down with Fox’s Greta von Susteren and told a different and much more detailed story. He even remembered the women who made the claims; one worked in the communications department, and another in the governmental affairs division. He knew that the communications staffer had complained about a particular gesture, according to Byron York:
She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying — and I was standing close to her — and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife. And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, ‘My wife comes up to my chin.’ And that was put in [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable… something that was in the sexual harassment charge.
(Note to male bosses: It’s really never a good idea to compare a female staffer to your wife.)
Cain also went from not knowing about a settlement to even knowing roughly how much money was involved. “Maybe three months’ salary. I don’t remember. It might have been two months,” he sold Van Susteren. “I do remember my general counsel saying we didn’t pay all of the money they demanded.” Note that Cain isn’t saying he didn’t know about any of this, but he was briefed about the settlements today, after Politico broke the news; he’s now recounting memories he didn’t seem to have this morning.
Cain insisted he didn’t know anything about a sexual harassment allegation by the NRA governmental affairs staffer. Politico reported it involved an “unwelcome sexual advance” while on a business trip to Chicago. Cain told Van Susteren, “When we were at the restaurant show, I was constantly talking with different staff members about different issues. If I had a private conversation with her, I don’t recall it.” I thought it was interesting that Cain mentioned a specific “restaurant show,” when Politico didn’t specifically mention what the business trip in question involved. I’d look for Cain to recall more memories about that woman’s allegations as well in the days to come.
I don’t know what went on between Cain and the RGA staffers. Pro Publica’s Stephen Engelberg raises some good points about unanswered questions in the Politico “scoop.” Although the publication said it knew the names of the women who made the allegations, it didn’t share them. It relied entirely on anonymous sources, who mainly seemed to know about the charges secondhand. The allegations are almost 15 years old. And the news that the RGA made a settlement that was in “five figures” is suspicious. Engelberg asks:
Were the settlements $99,999 each (to borrow some of Cain’s favorite numbers)? Or a buck more than $9,999? The former would suggest, but not prove, that something seriously untoward had occurred. The latter would sound like what lawyers term nuisance settlements – the money corporations routinely shell out to make frivolous claims go away.
But Cain’s handling of the allegations is making the Politico scoop an even more legitimate story. Once again, he can’t get his facts straight; he doesn’t even seem to think he needs to. Cain seems to think he can treat the facts about the sexual harassment charges as haphazardly as he treats the facts about his “9-9-9″ plan. Like it or not, the media seem to care more about sex stories than tax fairness, and Cain may pay for his sloppiness this time. Will his anyone-but-Romney supporters care? We’re about to find out.
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"an independent private investigator, who wishes to remain anonymous at this time"
To be clear - a private eye who was able to prove this would be the greatest private eye in american politicla history.
You're believing anonymous unsourced claims about secret bank accounts - but completely discounting the word of 3 anonymous claimants?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm
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"an independent private investigator, who wishes to remain anonymous at this time"
To be clear - a private eye who was able to prove this would be the greatest private eye in american politicla history.
You're believing anonymous unsourced claims about secret bank accounts - but completely discounting the word of 3 anonymous claimants?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm
Ummm.......what part of the word "rumored" don't you get? Supposedly, this source plans to come forward when she has "empiricial evidence" that this went down.
As for the word of three anonymous claimants, what "word" would that be? That's precisely why the Politico story fizzled. There were NO SPECIFICS of what Cain supposedly said or did. And all three of them were either cleared to talk or had nothing to stop them from doing so, in the first place.
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rush told him it's true :D
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Cain Accuser Sharon Bialek Lived In Same Building As David Axelrod
Real Clear Politics ^ | 11-08-2011 | Fox News
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:33:04 AM
Video at link
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
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whats your point
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whats your point
This woman is a lying cvnt and is being used to divert attention away from the disaster presidency of maobama who is embarassing the nation in Europe, collapsing the economy, collapsing the American business spirit, etc.
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hahahahahahah everthing comes back to obama with you,get some help
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This woman is a lying girls and is being used to divert attention away from the disaster presidency of maobama who is embarassing the nation in Europe, collapsing the economy, collapsing the American business spirit, etc.
EXACTAMUNDO!!!!
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I guess any woman who has ever declared bankruptcy is fair game for harassment huh?
Damage control in full effect hahaha
Watch the GOP run!
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I guess any woman who has ever declared bankruptcy is fair game for harassment huh?
Damage control in full effect hahaha
Watch the GOP run!
Why was she hugging Cain a month ago, years after the sexual assault she is claiming now, occurred? And why did she wait 15 years?
None of that bothers you in the least bit or even cause you to raise any questions regarding her credibility?
See folks, this is why liberals and Democratic party nuthuggers are the stupidest people in the world.
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he should take a polygraph. hopefully he is doing that today and releasing the results today.
or, he's writing a speech about being the victim, delivering vague speech of "no harassment by any legal definition has taken place..."
Play lawyerball with people. They love that shit. What the definition of "is" is. Run with that.
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Why was she hugging Cain a month ago, years after the sexual assault she is claiming now, occurred? And why did she wait 15 years?
None of that bothers you in the least bit or even cause you to raise any questions regarding her credibility?
See folks, this is why liberals and Democratic party nuthuggers are the stupidest people in the world.
Hugging a guy who tried to sexually assault her 14 years ago? Yep, that makes sense.
Credibility? You mean like her history of screwing her bosses (i.e. the one that fathered her 13-year-old boy, who sued her for joint custody for that boy after dropping a settlement deal, once his wife left him)?
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Why was she hugging Cain a month ago, years after the sexual assault she is claiming now, occurred? And why did she wait 15 years?
None of that bothers you in the least bit or even cause you to raise any questions regarding her credibility?
See folks, this is why liberals and Democratic party nuthuggers are the stupidest people in the world.
Jennifer Flowers tapes - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH
Monica blue dress - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH
Wiener in a photo - WIENER TELLING THE TRUTH
Bielak hugging Cain a month ago - CAIN LYING
Got it yet?
To be a democrat in todays age means being the biggest sucker on the planet.
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Jennifer Flowers tapes - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH
Monica blue dress - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH
Wiener in a photo - WIENER TELLING THE TRUTH
Bielak hugging Cain a month ago - CAIN LYING
Got it yet?
To be a democrat in todays age means being the biggest sucker on the planet.
Bialek, not telling her father or her boyfriend 14 years ago - but Cain's lying?
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Report: Bialek Fired from NRA for False Accustations of Sexual Assault
Many bloggers via Pat Dollard ^ | 11-8-11 | toro520
Report: Bialek Fired from NRA for False Accustations of Sexual Assault November 8th, 2011 (3) Posted By Toro520.
One might be asking themselves why Ms. Bialek was fired from the National Restaurant Association. After all, being fired, quite unlike simply being laid off, is a serious issue with serious ramifications; since leaving the Restuarant Association, Ms. Bialek has been unable to maintain regular employment. So why was this woman let go? Why has it seemingly affected her ability to remain employed for so long?
Perhaps it might have something to do with the reason she was fired from the National Restaurant Association…
FILING FALSE CLAIMS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT
“She was fired from her job, and her boyfriend suggested she contact Cain in hopes he could help her find employment.”.
In this particular incident she was fired for falsely accusing her boss of sexual harassment, a charge denied by co-workers, as well as being pretty much a pain in the ass to work with.
“I remember her as a time-waster, and rabble-rouser. If she didn’t get her way she cried about sexual harassment”. A former co-worker, a female no less, emailed me. “She was trouble with a capital “T”. The fact that she waited 13 years and never said a word not even during Cain’s earlier forays into politics. She only now magically appears because Cain is leading in some polls and proving a threat to Barack Obama?
(Excerpt) Read more at patdollard.com ...
BBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMM
Eat shit blackass and 180
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Source that claim, 333386.
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http://patdollard.com/2011/11/bialek-deconstructed-accustations-quickly-erode-under-scrutiny
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http://patdollard.com/2011/11/bialek-deconstructed-accustations-quickly-erode-under-scrutiny
why isn't FOX picking up on the story?
Why isn't cain's campaign tweeting this out a mile a minute.
because you just posted a link that doesn't cite the source - they don't tell us "so-and-so said".
Who said that? Proof? I'm seeing a couple of blogs citing each other. This is the story of the year.
i don't wanna call bullshit, 33, but you gotta source us with the person making the quote please.
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Hugging a guy who tried to sexually assault her 14 years ago? Yep, that makes sense.
Credibility? You mean like her history of screwing her bosses (i.e. the one that fathered her 13-year-old boy, who sued her for joint custody for that boy after dropping a settlement deal, once his wife left him)?
There is more than one?
Here is the thing, she may not have been attracted to Cain---that is the thing about "sexual harassment", if a woman is attracted to the man, what he says may not be offensive to her, and what he does, she may go along with it.
What happens with custody is just that...and by the way it takes two to tango...that CEO and her had that. Women have been screwing their bosses forever. The problem is, if they are not attracted to a certain boss, and he thinks he can get some of the pie.
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There is more than one?
Here is the thing, she may not have been attracted to Cain---that is the thing about "sexual harassment", if a woman is attracted to the man, what he says may not be offensive to her, and what he does, she may go along with it.
What happens with custody is just that...and by the way it takes two to tango...that CEO and her had that. Women have been screwing their bosses forever. The problem is, if they are not attracted to a certain boss, and he thinks he can get some of the pie.
It's called synecdoche, a figure of speech where the plural can be used for the singular or vice versa.
Case in point, you say you have children. But, it turns out actually have one kid. Is your statement accurate?
In one case, it is....IF the point of the question is to establish your possession of offspring.
Same goes here. Even if Bialek humped just one head honcho, she has a history of screwing her bosses, for the purposes of this discussion.
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why isn't FOX picking up on the story?
Why isn't cain's campaign tweeting this out a mile a minute.
because you just posted a link that doesn't cite the source - they don't tell us "so-and-so said".
Who said that? Proof? I'm seeing a couple of blogs citing each other. This is the story of the year.
i don't wanna call bullshit, 33, but you gotta source us with the person making the quote please.
When Fox does pick up the story, you and Blacken come up with more excuses.
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ah ha!!! fucking brilliant!!!
Cain knows he has these problems. He was prepared for this to come out when he ran for the senate a long time ago. It's not hard to guess he planned for it to possibly come out running for president.
So he has a supporter come forth with accusations that all fall apart and end up making all the accusers look like shit. Look who she picks as a lawyer. LOL, a conservative who attends tea parties is going to make that choice as a lawyer? NOT... But it sure does put the victim in a bad light with all other conservatives right away.
Now you guys dig up all this other shit on her right away that make it look like a big freaking scam...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401564.0;attach=440544;image)
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Why was she hugging Cain a month ago, years after the sexual assault she is claiming now, occurred? And why did she wait 15 years?
None of that bothers you in the least bit or even cause you to raise any questions regarding her credibility?
See folks, this is why liberals and Democratic party nuthuggers are the stupidest people in the world.
Sometimes people are scared no one will believe them. Rape victims, for example, don't always come forward especially when the person accused is in a higher social or political position. Often it is only through one coming forward, that others will find the strength to do that same. I can't imagine anything worse than coming forward and being the only one. Considering the way the "right" has attacked her past i believe she was 100% correct to be afraid to be the only one.
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Sometimes people are scared no one will believe them. Rape victims, for example, don't always come forward especially when the person accused is in a higher social or political position. Often it is only through one coming forward, that others will find the strength to do that same. I can't imagine anything worse than coming forward and being the only one. Considering the way the "right" has attacked her past i believe she was 100% correct to be afraid to be the only one.
LMFAO!!!!! That pic above your post was taken a month ago!
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LMFAO!!!!! That pic above your post was taken a month ago!
As was stated by mcway. You are missing the point. I will highlight again: Rape victims, for example, don't always come forward especially when the person accused is in a higher social or political position. Often it is only through one coming forward, that others will find the strength to do that same.
The same can be said for sexual harassment or assault.
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As was stated by mcway. You are missing the point. I will highlight again: Rape victims, for example, don't always come forward especially when the person accused is in a higher social or political position. Often it is only through one coming forward, that others will find the strength to do that same.
The same can be said for sexual harassment or assault.
LOL!!!!
Did you even read what you typed?
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Sometimes people are scared no one will believe them. Rape victims, for example, don't always come forward especially when the person accused is in a higher social or political position. Often it is only through one coming forward, that others will find the strength to do that same. I can't imagine anything worse than coming forward and being the only one. Considering the way the "right" has attacked her past i believe she was 100% correct to be afraid to be the only one.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Don't lump that whore with real victims.
So, she had the strength to hug the man who sexually assaulted her years ago? A victim of sexual harassment or assault would NEVER do that, especially a month prior to making such accusations.
Quit now. You are looking more foolish with each post.
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99 percent of conservatives will say this: "All I need to know, is that Gloria Allred is involved." just like they are here: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/chicago-radio-host-describes-cain-accuser-encounter-to-beck-she-bum-rushed-me-to-hug-him/
My guess is that Bialek and Cain are still very good friends...
Brilliant!
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LOL!!!!
Did you even read what you typed?
Yeah i did. Do you even care if he did it or not? Or are you more concerned with smearing the accuser? Pretty sickening for a so called lawyer.
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So she only told the BF a few weeks ago?
Cain has been running for months and she never said a word when he announced for POTUS if this were a big deal?
Fucking please - this woman is lying whore.
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Yeah i did. Do you even care if he did it or not? Or are you more concerned with smearing the accuser? Pretty sickening for a so called lawyer.
I was too busy laughing at your stupidy and implausible bs. Your post is a fairy tale not remotely related to the known facts of this lying whore.
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So she only told the BF a few weeks ago?
Cain has been running for months and she never said a word when he announced for POTUS if this were a big deal?
Fucking please - this woman is lying whore.
She is a lying whore. Cain's lying whore. This is so flipping obvious... This ends with the media being played bigtime and Cain over the scandal. fucking brilliantly played.
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Sharon Bialek, Herman Cain accuser, suggests she might vote for him
TheTicket/YahooNews ^ | 11/8/11 | Chris Moody
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:03:26 PM by Kartographer
Sharon Bialek, the Chicago woman who accused Republican presidential candidate of sexual harassment while he was president of the National Restaurant Association in 1997, said in an interview this morning on CBS News' Early Show that she's still considering voting for him. National Journal reports:
Bialek said ... that she has not shut the door on voting for Cain in the future. When asked whether she would vote for him if he admitted to the allegations, she said "I hope that he does and I'd have to think about that one
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Ha ha Ha Ha - the carnival act continues.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Don't lump that whore with real victims.
So, she had the strength to hug the man who sexually assaulted her years ago? A victim of sexual harassment or assault would NEVER do that, especially a month prior to making such accusations.
Quit now. You are looking more foolish with each post.
Wow way to show your lack of respect for women. The stupidity is all coming from you buddy.
Incorrect. For example look at those who are harassed at work and stay with the same employer often in the same role. This does not make it correct but for you someone being bankrupt not coming forward right away means she must be lying.
Talk about ignorance regarding crimes of sexual nature.
PS i like how your choice of words - calling her a whore - just reinforces my point that for women to come forward alone is very difficult precisely because men like you will call her a whore or liar or something else if you don't like what you hear.
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of course, when some guy claimed he had sex with obama - and failed 2 polygraphs on it - 33 posted it for years as fact ;)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Don't lump that whore with real victims.
So, she had the strength to hug the man who sexually assaulted her years ago? A victim of sexual harassment or assault would NEVER do that, especially a month prior to making such accusations.
Quit now. You are looking more foolish with each post.
I can see it now: Hermie, baby!! Oh, it's sooo good to see you!!! Remember when you grab my panties and almost made me lick you nuts?"
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Wow way to show your lack of respect for women. The stupidity is all coming from you buddy.
Incorrect. For example look at those who are harassed at work and stay with the same employer often in the same role. This does not make it correct but for you someone being bankrupt not coming forward right away means she must be lying.
Talk about ignorance regarding crimes of sexual nature.
PS i like how your choice of words - calling her a whore - just reinforces my point that for women to come forward alone is very difficult precisely because men like you will call her a whore or liar or something else if you don't like what you hear.
Yeah, because women NEVER lie or make shit up for personal gain? ::) ::) ::)
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The "liberal media" and dems will end up looking like the bad guys on this while cain will look like the victim. The right instantly can feel good about keeping their support behind cain. This is the most brilliant scandal recovery operation I've ever seen and there's no fucking way Bailek and Cain were not both in on it together.
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Yeah, because women NEVER lie or make shit up for personal gain? ::) ::) ::)
Can you say "Nicki Diaz" from a year ago?
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Yeah, because women NEVER lie or make shit up for personal gain? ::) ::) ::)
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/archive/covers/88/7_4_88_205x273.jpg)
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Eventhough she was only 15, it shows how agitators can manipulate someone to continue to perpetuate lies in order to destroy the reputation of others.
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Yeah, because women NEVER lie or make shit up for personal gain? ::) ::) ::)
So we should then lump all women into the same mold? As a lawyer you would surely understand that each and every case is different. But i guess not your prejudice is too strong. How do you even make a living being a lawyer? You are as unfair and unbalanced as possible.
I don't know if she is lying or not. What i take issue with is the character assassination before it has been proven incorrect.
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So we should then lump all women into the same mold? As a lawyer you would surely understand that each and every case is different. But i guess not your prejudice is too strong. How do you even make a living being a lawyer? You are as unfair and unbalanced as possible.
I don't know if she is lying or not. What i take issue with is the character assassination before it has been proven incorrect.
no, of course not - but this particular woman is FOS based on the facts and circumstances of this thing.
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man people are funny... don't let the obvious get in the way of hate and outrage.
fucking people are really pathetic.
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man people are funny... don't let the obvious get in the way of hate and outrage.
fucking people are really pathetic.
If this woman is broke - who is paying for Allred?
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Cain accuser says her son encouraged her "to tell on him"
CNN ^ | November 7, 2011 | CNN Wire Staff
The only woman so far to come forward and publicly accuse Herman Cain of sexual harassment did so in part with her 13-year-old son's encouragement, she said Tuesday on CNN.
"He said, 'Mom, I think you need to do the right thing. I think you need to tell on him," Sharon Bialek said on CNN's "American Morning." "That confirmed it for me. If my son is saying it, I want to be the role model for him and other kids growing up."
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You go to advice for something this serious with a 13-year old boy (who was conceived via her screwing her boss)?
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This story stinks to high heaven. Anyone stupid enough to believe this garbage should be ashamed of themselves.
And nobody who files for personal bankruptcy twice and can't seem to hold a steady job for more than a year at a time shares the same political ideology as Herman Cain.
Two nameless, faceless accusers who won't come forward when no criminal charges or civil charges of any kind were filed= WEAK
This fat bankrupt slob jumping into the limelight with her feminazi dyke lawyer= PATHETIC
This is an obvious hit job on someone who supposedly had and has no shot of getting the nomination-- If this is the best the left has to offer, don't bet against Cain surviving this bs.
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If this woman is broke - who is paying for Allred?
3333, do you see what's going on with all this? Hooked up with allred, living in the same building as axelrod and all this other stuff flying out the next day that makes this all look like a liberal conspiracy.
What I don't think was meant to come out was the photo of her with Cain and the info that they seemed close. Maybe I'm wrong, but with the way all this looks people should be at least open to the idea that Bailek and Cain set this up together. The fact is that Bailek's story makes all this so questionable it looks intentional to me. The right can now back cain and point theirs fingers at libs, the focus is not on Cain but the bizare nature of how this unfolded with Bailek and "liberal media" This is damage control at its finest. Plus nobody wants to see the truth. The left want to believe Bialek and blame cain so it's not in their interest to question her as planning this with Cain and it's way not in the right's interest either. They get to point fingers at dems and libs over this and Cain is off the hook and still in the race. Fucking brilliant little plan Cain pulled off with this.
LOL, Cain looking more like Pacino from Devil's Advocate beyond just the smile :D This was good.
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3333, do you see what's going on with all this? Hooked up with allred, living in the same building as axelrod and all this other stuff flying out the next day that makes this all look like a liberal conspiracy.
What I don't think was meant to come out was the photo of her with Cain and the info that they seemed close. Maybe I'm wrong, but with the way all this looks people should be at least open to the idea that Bailek and Cain set this up together. The fact is that Bailek's story makes all this so questionable it looks intentional to me. The right can now back cain and point theirs fingers at libs, the focus is not on Cain but the bizare nature of how this unfolded with Bailek and "liberal media" This is damage control at its finest. Plus nobody wants to see the truth. The left want to believe Bialek and blame cain so it's not in their interest to question her as planning this with Cain and it's way not in the right's interest either. They get to point fingers at dems and libs over this and Cain is off the hook and still in the race. Fucking brilliant little plan Cain pulled off with this.
LOL, Cain looking more like Pacino from Devil's Advocate beyond just the smile :D This was good.
The pizza man will deliver the sausage!
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The pizza man will deliver the sausage!
this shit is comical on so many levels - IF it wasn't for the fact the guy is this terrible at crisis management.
We're talking a few people with claims of him being shady and grabby a decade back.
You're telling me he couldn't look at how arnold handled that shit - issued a press release with "I have a rough spell in my life where I made mistakes, but that is dehh-cades behind me".
He'd be golden right now. Instead, he let his ego dictate things, and had to insult the victims instead of just saying he ain't perfect.
"I'm the only straight talking canddiate" - STFU, ya liar :)
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The pizza man will deliver the sausage!
I think the left just got owned in such a clever way with this and if Cain is this good, he could very well win it all. I'm just disturbed that nobody gives a shit at the character of the person which is obviously pretty fucking low.
Ron Paul or bust man... fuck Cain.
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I think the left just got owned in such a clever way with this and if Cain is this good, he could very well win it all. I'm just disturbed that nobody gives a shit at the character of the person which is obviously pretty fucking low.
Ron Paul or bust man... fuck Cain.
Go check out my 1983 thread w RP debating the Fed Chairman. I wish that RP would show up at the debates. I get it that he is older and does not have the fire like he used to, but he needs to find his inner "angry old man w nothing to lose" and just go like a bat out of hell.
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this shit is comical on so many levels - IF it wasn't for the fact the guy is this terrible at crisis management.
We're talking a few people with claims of him being shady and grabby a decade back.
You're telling me he couldn't look at how arnold handled that shit - issued a press release with "I have a rough spell in my life where I made mistakes, but that is dehh-cades behind me".
He'd be golden right now. Instead, he let his ego dictate things, and had to insult the victims instead of just saying he ain't perfect.
"I'm the only straight talking canddiate" - STFU, ya liar :)
looks terrible, actually fucking brilliant at crisis management. dumb as a fox.... The way this plays out now, the accusers are not relevant to the right, and the left and liberal media get the blame. Fucking brilliant...
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looks terrible, actually fucking brilliant at crisis management. dumb as a fox.... The way this plays out now, the accusers are not relevant to the right, and the left and liberal media get the blame. Fucking brilliant...
Actually - you may be right - because the original two accusers are now an afterthought and those may have been more serious.
now we are focused on this lying whore and the left and media will look like shit, no to mention alred tainting this circus act.
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Go check out my 1983 thread w RP debating the Fed Chairman. I
Cain was a fed employee for years. I always wondered how you backed him, knowing he helped build and maaintain the mess that you, schiff, and ron paul fight against.
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Actually - you may be right - because the original two accusers are now an afterthought and those may have been more serious.
now we are focused on this lying whore and the left and media will look like shit, no to mention alred tainting this circus act.
I'm serious, from a strategy standpoint, I'm in awe... This is fucking brilliantly played. The only mistake made is the backstage photo of them coming out. I don't think they wanted that to happen but it still works with even that exposed lol. Cain wins bigtime the way this played out and Alred and the left took the bait and end up looking really bad. The right are now fully on the attack for Cain, oh yea, this worked out very well.
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Cain was a fed employee for years. I always wondered how you backed him, knowing he helped build and maaintain the mess that you, schiff, and ron paul fight against.
He was not on the Board of Governors dealing with interest rates, etc. From what I have read, it was more a local business type of gig.
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Sharon Bialek Evades Question Of Whether She’d Previously Called Lawyers Of Other Cain Accusers
Mediate.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2011 | James Crugnale
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:44:05 PM by sevinufnine
During Sharon Bialek‘s media tour this morning about her allegations against Herman Cain, she sat down with Good Morning America‘s George Stephanopoulos. Stephanopoulos questioned Bialek about whether she had called Joel Bennett, the attorney of one of the other accusers of the Republican candidate, who had said a woman from Chicago named “Sharon” had called him. Bialek hesitated. “We not going to answer who she calls,” attorney Gloria Allred interjected. “You can’t say? Why not?” pressed Stephanopoulos. “Because that’s not the issue — the issue is Herman Cain,” responded Allred.
(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...
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Bill Kurtis on WLS 890AM: "Sharon Bialek is a former CBS employee with history"
WLS 890AM ^ | 11/08/2011 | WLS 890AM
Bill Kurtis said on WLS 890AM that Herman Cain accuser, Sharon Bialek is a former CBS employee with a lot of history.
Listen on WLS 890AM
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this shit is comical on so many levels - IF it wasn't for the fact the guy is this terrible at crisis management.
We're talking a few people with claims of him being shady and grabby a decade back.
You're telling me he couldn't look at how arnold handled that shit - issued a press release with "I have a rough spell in my life where I made mistakes, but that is dehh-cades behind me".
He'd be golden right now. Instead, he let his ego dictate things, and had to insult the victims instead of just saying he ain't perfect.
"I'm the only straight talking canddiate" - STFU, ya liar :)
GET REAL!!
So far, you have weak unsubstantiated claims by three people. And the 4th has a past more checkered than a Scotsman's kilt, including:
- Screwing her boss (resulting in her now 13-year-old boy)
- Frivolous suits, the losses of which have costs her thousands
- Being perpetually unemployed
- No documentation of her alleged sexual harrassment (which would really be ASSAULT, as described): Not to the police, not to the NRA, EEOC, not even a counselor or pastor.....NOTHING!!!
These charges, so far, are ludicrous. There's a reason they won't sue. They'd lose and lose BADLY, notwithstanding that the statute of limitation has long passed.
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Bill Kurtis on WLS 890AM: "Sharon Bialek is a former CBS employee with history"
WLS 890AM ^ | 11/08/2011 | WLS 890AM
Bill Kurtis said on WLS 890AM that Herman Cain accuser, Sharon Bialek is a former CBS employee with a lot of history.
Listen on WLS 890AM
I heard that earlier but lost the link. Could you provide it, please?
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GET REAL!!
So far, you have weak unsubstantiated claims by three people. And the 4th has a past more checkered than a Scotsman's kilt, including:
- Screwing her boss (resulting in her now 13-year-old boy)
- Frivolous suits, the losses of which have costs her thousands
- Being perpetually unemployed
- No documentation of her alleged sexual harrassment (which would really be ASSAULT, as described): Not to the police, not to the NRA, EEOC, not even a counselor or pastor.....NOTHING!!!
These charges, so far, are ludicrous. There's a reason they won't sue. They'd lose and lose BADLY, notwithstanding that the statute of limitation has long passed.
Sounds like a typical Republican. haha
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suntimes
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Witness: Cain accuser hugged him during Tea Party meeting a month ago
By MICHAEL SNEED
msneed@suntimes.com
Last Modified: Nov 8, 2011 06:58AM
The Cain Encounter ...
They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends.
She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear.
She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.”
Huh?
“I don’t know if what she was giving him was a sucker punch, but he didn’t put his arm down while she was talking to him,” said the Sneed source.
◆The “he”... is GOP presidential contender Herman Cain, who has been accused of sexual harassment by several women.
◆The “she”... is Chicagoan Sharon Bialek, who held a news conference Tuesday as the only woman to PUBLICLY accuse Cain of sexual harassment.
◆The Sneed source ... is WIND radio co-host Amy Jacobson, who tells Sneed she witnessed the Cain/Bialek encounter a month ago while backstage at the AM 560 WIND sponsored TeaCon meeting in Schaumburg Sept. 30-Oct. 1 at the Renaissance Hotel and Convention Center.
◆Quoth Jacobson: “I had turned on TV to find out who was Cain’s accuser, and I almost fell over when I saw it was Sharon Bialek accusing Cain of groping her genitals.”
“I was waiting for Herman Cain’s ‘Accuser No. 4’ to surface — and up pops Sharon!”
“I couldn’t believe it. I was shocked.”
“I recall Sharon was hell bent on going backstage at the TeaCon convention — where she cornered him,” said Jacobson.
“I was surprised to hear she claims she did not know Cain was going to be there. Cain was expected and was late.”
Bialek told the media on Monday: “I went up to him and asked him if he remembered me. I wanted to see if he would be man enough to own up to what he had done 14 years ago.”
◆The encounter: “It looked sort of flirtatious,” said Jacobson. “I mean they were hugging. But she could have been giving him the kiss of death for all I know. I had no idea what they were talking about, but she was inches from his ear.”
◆The introduction: “It all began when I took a convention break and joined my pals at the hotel bar. Sharon was drinking Mimosas with them. She said she was a Republican, a Tea Party member, had once dated [White Sox sports announcer’ Steve Stone] and had worked at WGN radio.”
◆The rendezvous: Sharon also said she was anxious to meet Cain again and had once gone to an afterparty with him and her boyfriend years ago. But she never mentioned he had sexually harassed her.”
◆The upshot: Bialek has since applied for employment in sales at WIND radio and is scheduled for a second interview Thursday.
So it goes.
Blago beat ...
Pencils poised: Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s sentencing on federal corruption charges is set for Dec. 6. Watch for a Christmas request.
A Royal note...
The goods news: Prince William and wife, Kate (nee Middleton) get to move into the Kensington Palace apartment the lesser royals have always coveted: the late Princess Margaret’s digs.
◆The bad news: The rooms are painted pink and turquoise ... colors apparently loved by ladies who tipple and smoke.
The Jackson trial …
How convenient: Betcha the jury in the trial of Michael Jackson’s personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, relied heavily on the juror who has a degree biochemistry and medical laboratory sciences.
Sneedlings ...
Today’s birthdays: Christie Hefner, ageless; Bonnie Raitt, 62, and Morley Safer, 80, and belated wishes to
WHAT A FUCKING LIAR.
Oh snap. She took a picture with him, with her arm around him, just a month ago? Are you freaking kidding me? ::)
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Oh snap. She took a picture with him, with her arm around him, just a month ago? Are you freaking kidding me? ::)
yet he claims he doesn't remember her.
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https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/Finddock.asp?DocketKey=CAAJ0MB0BFIICG0MD
240 can you explain this?
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https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/Finddock.asp?DocketKey=CAAJ0MB0BFIICG0MD
240 can you explain this?
HAHAHAHA!!! LOL!!
120's response will be that it doesn't matter. All it matters is that she said it happened, so it must've happened.
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HAHAHAHA!!! LOL!!
120's response will be that it doesn't matter. All it matters is that she said it happened, so it must've happened.
Like I said from Day 1 - this is his palins' baby redux all over again. He is getting played like a fool.
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I thought Axelrod was just a guy who lived in the building and winked at her in the gym.
Bialek owes him money? Hmmmmm........
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I thought Axelrod was just a guy who lived in the building and winked at her in the gym.
Bialek owes him money? Hmmmmm........
180 is going to look as bad as he did w Palins' baby.
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Add to that,
Veteran CBS Anchor Bill Kurtis Says Sharon Bialek Has A History Of Sexually Harassing Men
http://patdollard.com/2011/11/veteran-anchor-bill-kurtis-says-bialek-has-a-history-of-sexually-harrassing-men/
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Add to that,
Veteran CBS Anchor Bill Kurtis Says Sharon Bialek Has A History Of Sexually Harassing Men
http://patdollard.com/2011/11/veteran-anchor-bill-kurtis-says-bialek-has-a-history-of-sexually-harrassing-men/
Incredible how this is being ignored by most of the media.
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Incredible how this is being ignored by most of the media.
Of course! It's the "guilty until proven guilty" routine.
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180 is going to look as bad as he did w Palins' baby.
She in hock for over $3500. She may end up with her head in Axelrod's crotch, before it's all said and done.
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nice christen thing to say ,would jesus be proud of you ???
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She does owe $3500. She had an out of wedlock child with a previous boss. She can't hold a job. She hugged Cain a month ago, 14 years after she was supposedly sexually harassed by Cain.
Those are facts. Not rumors.
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nice christen thing to say ,would jesus be proud of you ???
Yawn. you spread rumors and falsehoods of palin and 911 CT's all the time.
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She does owe $3500. She had an out of wedlock child with a previous boss. She can't hold a job. She hugged Cain a month ago, 14 years after she was supposedly sexually harassed by Cain.
Those are facts. Not rumors.
And, she didn't file a complaint, call the cops, not even talk with her pastor. Throw in political ambulance chaser, Gloria Allred (a year removed from the smear job on Meg Whitman with that lying maid, Nicki Diaz) and this whole thing reeks of character assassination on Cain.
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nice christen thing to say ,would jesus be proud of you ???
I don't know of anyone name Christen. Is she a TK member like you?
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Yawn. you spread rumors and falsehoods of palin and 911 CT's all the time.
rumors :D :D :D :D :D :D :D rumors are fact for you 200 million a day
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I don't know of anyone name Christen. Is she a TK member like you?
Yes. They have weekly meetings at the "drug attics".
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-herman-cain-accuser-1109-20111109,0,4756421.story
Wow - she is in worse shape than I thought.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-herman-cain-accuser-1109-20111109,0,4756421.story
Wow - she is in worse shape than I thought.
So, she's broke; her man's about to be broke; she owes Axelrod over $3500; the IRS is breathing down her neck and seized her house......NAAAAAHH!!! She ain't doing this hit on Cain for the money. ::)
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So, she's broke; her man's about to be broke; she owes Axelrod over $3500; the IRS is breathing down her neck and seized her house......NAAAAAHH!!! She ain't doing this hit on Cain for the money. ::)and rush also said :D
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If they're all liars - thats MORE reason for cain to take that damn test and WIN this once and for all.
We all know that if you were the one being accused, you'd take the damn test. Even if they can be cheated- then you challenge all 4 women to take the test too.
Look, Cain is a fcking mess at this point. If he's innocent of acting like a sexist, then he's the biggest sucker in human history to keep letting these chickens play him like that. The man must have 'sucker' written on his forehead.
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If they're all liars - thats MORE reason for cain to take that damn test and WIN this once and for all.
We all know that if you were the one being accused, you'd take the damn test. Even if they can be cheated- then you challenge all 4 women to take the test too.
Look, Cain is a fcking mess at this point. If he's innocent of acting like a sexist, then he's the biggest sucker in human history to keep letting these chickens play him like that. The man must have 'sucker' written on his forehead.
Ladies first.......The burden is on the ACCUSED.
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Ladies first.......The burden is on the ACCUSED.
BINGO!!
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Apparently, reading ain't fundamental. Those facts are documented and ain't got a thing to do with Rush. I know that's your canned excuse, when you're unable to generate a clue.
BTW, 333386 is still waiting for you to address this issue, about how she conveniently is on the hook to Axelrod.
Now what was that 240 was saying about chicken?
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Add The Washington Post to the list of liars. ::)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cain-accuser-defends-decision-to-go-public-with-allegations-says-she-has-nothing-to-gain/2011/11/08/gIQAtGYE0M_story.html
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Ladies first.......The burden is on the ACCUSED.
it could cost him his chance at being president.
Yes, he can sit back, 'let the system work'... suddenly it'll be march, he'll be cleared of charges, and Romney will be the nominee because too many repub voters just didn't want any more bombshells coming out during the general election cycle.
If this is dirty politics, sometimes you have to go that extra mile to clear your name. No, he doesn't "have to" take a poly... but it would triple his fundraising TOMORROW>>> Hell, I'd send him $50 for his troubles.
But just sitting back with vague denials and letting his team trash the victim will take months, will make him look like shit and lose with women voters, and will hand Mitt the nomination.
Watch the polls... his negatives are skiyrocketing and that money he's bragging about is going to slow greatly as more details emerge. Take the damn polygraph and you win IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION - and thats' what running for president is ;)
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it could cost him his chance at being president.
Yes, he can sit back, 'let the system work'... suddenly it'll be march, he'll be cleared of charges, and Romney will be the nominee because too many repub voters just didn't want any more bombshells coming out during the general election cycle.
If this is dirty politics, sometimes you have to go that extra mile to clear your name. No, he doesn't "have to" take a poly... but it would triple his fundraising TOMORROW>>> Hell, I'd send him $50 for his troubles.
But just sitting back with vague denials and letting his team trash the victim will take months, will make him look like shit and lose with women voters, and will hand Mitt the nomination.
Watch the polls... his negatives are skiyrocketing and that money he's bragging about is going to slow greatly as more details emerge. Take the damn polygraph and you win IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION - and thats' what running for president is ;)
How many ways can Cain say, "the charges are FALSE", "It didn't happen", "I didn't do anything"??
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How many ways can Cain say, "the charges are FALSE", "It didn't happen", "I didn't do anything"??
if he was holding up a piece of paper which said "I never met that Bialek woman in DC", "I never paid to upgrade a hotel room" and "I never shoved her face to my crotch"
And the results were a big TRUTH
He would shut the accusers up very quickly and be vindicated. This whole "But he shouldn't have tooooooooooo" excuse works great in the legal realm, but he wants to be President. There's a good chance Allred already gave her client the poly test... a lot of lawyers do.
MCWAY, You go ahead and keep that "but he doesn't have to" about the test.
And watch him plummet in the polls.
And keep blaming the media, etc.
He could go above ane beyond what is 'required' - take the test - and shove it in the face of the accusers, as they DO look hella shady here.
Hiding behind lawyers and refusing a poly = Lose nomination.
Take the polygraph and DARE the accusers to do the same = 45th president of the USA.
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if he was holding up a piece of paper which said "I never met that Bialek woman in DC", "I never paid to upgrade a hotel room" and "I never shoved her face to my crotch"
And the results were a big TRUTH
He would shut the accusers up very quickly and be vindicated. This whole "But he shouldn't have tooooooooooo" excuse works great in the legal realm, but he wants to be President. There's a good chance Allred already gave her client the poly test... a lot of lawyers do.
MCWAY, You go ahead and keep that "but he doesn't have to" about the test.
And watch him plummet in the polls.
And keep blaming the media, etc.
He could go above ane beyond what is 'required' - take the test - and shove it in the face of the accusers, as they DO look hella shady here.
Hiding behind lawyers and refusing a poly = Lose nomination.
Take the polygraph and DARE the accusers to do the same = 45th president of the USA.
First he didn't REFUSE a polygraph. He said he would take one, but only if he had a good reason. That good reason would be his ACCUSERS do the same.
This isn't a one-sided deal. They don't get to make all these foolish claims and go unchecked, while Cain gets raked on the coals.
As more facts surface and the questionable/checkered pasts of these accusers come forward, I think it goes toward clearing Cain.
But, time will tell, eventually.
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First he didn't REFUSE a polygraph. He said he would take one, but only if he had a good reason. That good reason would be his ACCUSERS do the same.
A slew of liars is about to derail his only chance at rescuing america.
You don't think that's a good enough reason? ;)
These accusers are going to sink his chance at being president. A 100% innocent man would take that test. Methinks he probably fcked around a little bit in his day and doesn't wanna come clean. Maybe they're lying, but maybe he did get a little dicky licky in his day, who knows.
Ron Paul would take the gall darn test. A man with nothing to hide would take the test - even though he doesn't HAVE to - to save america.
Anywya, when one of the accusers DOES pass a poly and publish it, you'll chance to "but but but I think ALL FOUR of them should take a poly before cain does..."
TK approved!
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A slew of liars is about to derail his only chance at rescuing america.
You don't think that's a good enough reason? ;)
These accusers are going to sink his chance at being president. A 100% innocent man would take that test. Methinks he probably fcked around a little bit in his day and doesn't wanna come clean. Maybe they're lying, but maybe he did get a little dicky licky in his day, who knows.
Ron Paul would take the gall darn test. A man with nothing to hide would take the test - even though he doesn't HAVE to - to save america.
Anywya, when one of the accusers DOES pass a poly and publish it, you'll chance to "but but but I think ALL FOUR of them should take a poly before cain does..."
TK approved!
Ron Paul ain't got jack to do with this, except to explain your recent flip-flopping.
Should Cain take it and pass it, you'll dredge up more excuses. First you claim that Cain should be shouting to the rooftops that he's innocent.
Now that he's done that, on several occasions, you've moved to the polygraph flap.
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i've said all along that a poly will clear/condemn Cain - immediately.
don't take it. play that bullshit back-n-forth in the media. super duper.
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Steve Dahl, legendary Chicago Radio personality - another Sharon Bialek inconsistencyRoe and Roeper Show on WLS | 11-9-11 | Self
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:49:02 PM by bigbob
Long-time Chicago radio personality Steve Dahl is sitting in for Richard Roeper today on WLS and he's worked with Sharon Bialek in the past. In fact, he has a tape from a "take your kid to work day" where he talks to her on the air at a previous station (some years ago):
On the tape, Bialek says "I first met you when I was 14, you were handing out t-shirts (at some event) and you hit on me and my sister". It's just good-natured banter about him being a lech, hitting on young girls - just a little fun on the air.
But here's the point: Dahl says "I was 24 years old when I came here, I'm now 56 and she's now 50. That means it's impossible for me to have met her when she was 14". If the encounter she described actually happened, she would have had to be at least 18 at the time.
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He also said handing out tee shirts was not a part of his job.
Another comment was made regarding "the incident." They said if her main intent was to get a job from Cain and he did sexually assault her in the way she described, why after rebuffing him didn't she say, ~ "did you just grab for my crotch and pull my head toward your crotch? What time do I start on Monday?"
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That makes radio/TV host #2. First Bill Curtis, now this guy.
Notice the pattern here folks.
First, they trotted out the anonymous accusers. When that didn't derail Cain's campaign, here comes Bialek.
As Bialek's financial woes, ties to Axelrod, and boss-screwing rep comes to light, one of the anonymous accusers (who didn't want to talk last week, despite being cleared by NRA) now feels like blabbing.
Cain said he ain't stepping down and didn't do anything wrong; as he starts recovering from this (polls suggesting he's still ahead or right behind Romney); now this press conference is in the works.
Kraushaar, the previously anonymous accuser who got the $45,000+ severance (or settlement, depending on your POV), claimed that she's going to detail all of her specific claims of what Cain supposedly did.
The PROBLEM is that her lawyer admitted that was Cain said was correct. NRA did an investigation and basically cleared Cain of all wrongdoing.
Bennett said Wednesday that Kraushaar, who has worked in communications for the federal government since her departure from the association, complained in 1999 of multiple incidents of alleged sexual harassment by Cain.
The restaurant association said it investigated the accusations at the time and Cain denied them, Bennett noted. However, he said an internal investigation by the association of alleged wrongdoing by its president was likely to have been less effective than an outside investigation would have been.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/09/politics/cain-allegations/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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Has this been posted about Kraushaar?
Karen Kraushaar, Herman Cain Accuser, Filed Complaint At Next Job
www.huffingtonpost.com
WASHINGTON — Three years after Karen Kraushaar settled her sexual harassment complaint against Herman Cain and quit the trade association where they worked, she filed another complaint at her new job. She argued that supervisors there unfairly denied her request to work from home after a car accident and accused one of them of circulating a sexually oriented email, The Associated Press has learned.
Kraushaar, 55, says she later dropped the complaint that she filed while working as a spokeswoman at the Immigration and Naturalization Service in late 2002 or early 2003 and left the agency to take a job at the Treasury Department. She says she considered the immigration service complaint "relatively minor."
But three former supervisors say the allegations, which did not include a sexual harassment claim, were investigated and treated seriously. Two former supervisors say she initially demanded a settlement of thousands of dollars, a promotion on the federal pay scale, reinstated leave time and a one-year fellowship to Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. The promotion itself would have increased her annual salary between $12,000 and $16,000, according to salary tables in 2002 from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management.
Details of the second complaint come as Kraushaar says she will provide specifics about the allegations she made against Cain, the GOP businessman now running for president who led the National Restaurant Association when she worked there. She is reaching out to three other Cain accusers, suggesting they can schedule a joint news conference to rebut Cain's insistence that he has never sexually harassed anyone.
The accusations against Cain surfaced briefly at Monday night's debate on the economy. The audience booed loudly as Cain was asked how the allegations would reflect on a business' chief executive.
Cain countered that Americans "don't care about the character assassination; they care about leadership." He added that says that since the allegations surfaced more than a week ago, "voters have voted with their dollars," and contributed to his campaign.
Earlier in the day, Cain's campaign said news of Kraushaar's complaint at the immigration service and details about another accuser's financial problems were "interesting revelations."
"We hope that the court of public opinion will take this into consideration as they, the women, continue to try to keep this story alive," spokesman J.D. Gordon said in a statement Wednesday.
The Cain campaign projected an air of business as usual with the release of his first TV ad of the season and the announcement that he will appear on the "Late Show with David Letterman" on Nov. 18.
Cain also appeared Wednesday night at a GOP candidates' debate in Michigan.
The 60-second ad, airing only in Iowa, amplifies Cain's oft-repeated claim that the Environmental Protection Agency is hurting farmers by attempting to regulate methane gas from livestock and agricultural dust. The EPA under President Barack Obama has said it has no such plans.
And the campaign announced an endorsement from Georgia state Sen. Renee Unterman, a Republican woman whose backing comes as Cain works to steady support among female voters amid increasingly graphic sexual harassment allegations.
Democrats were beginning to speak up on Cain.
The party's national chair, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, said at a news conference before the debate, "They are very serious allegations and he must be called to account and be specific in his response to those allegations. He has not done that to date."
When Kraushaar filed her immigration service complaint against supervisors in late 2002 or early 2003, she turned to Joel Bennett, the same Washington lawyer who handled her earlier sexual harassment complaint against Cain.
"The concern was that there may have been discrimination on the job and that I was being treated unfairly," Kraushaar said.
Kraushaar said she did not remember details about the complaint and did not remember asking for a payment, a promotion or a fellowship. Bennett declined to discuss the case with the AP, saying he considered it confidential.
Kraushaar now works as a spokeswoman in the office of the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration.
Her complaint at the immigration service was based on supervisors denying her request to work fulltime from home after a serious car accident in 2002, three former supervisors said. Two of them said Kraushaar also had been denied previous requests to work from home before the car accident.
The complaint also cited as objectionable an email that a manager had circulated comparing computers to men and women, a former supervisor said. The complaint contended that the email, based on humor widely circulated on the Internet, was sexually explicit, according to the supervisor, who did not have a copy of the email. The joke circulated online lists reasons men and women are like computers, including that men are because "in order to get their attention, you have to turn them on." Women are like computers, it says, because "even your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for later retrieval."
Kraushaar told the AP that she remembered the complaint focusing on supervisors denying her the opportunity to work from home after her car accident. She said other employees were allowed to work from home.
Kraushaar, who is married and lives in suburban Maryland, was one of two women who formally settled harassment complaints against Cain in exchange for severance payments in the late 1990s when they worked at the restaurant association. Bennett has said Kraushaar settled her claim during the summer of 1999, shortly after Cain left the organization. Neither Kraushaar nor Bennett has described exactly what Cain was accused of saying or doing when she worked there. The New York Times has reported that Kraushaar received $45,000 in the settlement with the restaurant association.
Kraushaar agreed to discuss some aspects of the complaint at the immigration service if the AP agreed to protect her privacy, as it did in previous accounts of her complaint against Cain. She subsequently waived her privacy by confirming for news organizations her identity as one of two women who settled complaints against Cain, so the AP no longer is shielding her identity.
Cain said allegations of sexual harassment by Kraushaar – whom Cain identified by name in a televised news conference Tuesday – were determined to be "baseless" at the restaurant association. But he did not explain who made this determination, and Kraushaar has disputed this. Cain said that after negotiations between Bennett and the association's outside counsel she received money under an employment agreement, which Cain said was different from a legal settlement.
"When she made her accusations, they were found to be baseless and she could not find anyone to corroborate her story," Cain said.
Cain said he remembered gesturing to Kraushaar and noting that she was the same height as his wife, about chin-high to him. The Georgia businessman said Kraushaar did not react noticeably, but he said the restaurant association lawyer later told him that was the most serious claim that Kraushaar had made against him, "the one she was most upset about."
"Other things that might have been in the accusations, I'm not aware of, I don't remember," Cain said.
Bennett told reporters Wednesday that Kraushaar suffered multiple incidents of harassment and would not have filed a claim based only on a comment about height.
"My client is an intelligent, well-educated woman. She would never file a sexual harassment complaint about a comment like that," he said.
Cain has vowed to strike back at his accusers and respond to any allegations. His Atlanta-based lawyer, Lin Wood, said Wednesday the campaign had asked the restaurant association for the complaints that Kraushaar and the other employee filed so he could prepare a more complete response, but the group refused to release them.
Sharon Bialek, a Chicago woman who once worked for the restaurant association's education foundation, accused Cain this week of groping her and attempting to force himself on her inside a parked car after they had dinner in 1997. Another woman told the AP that Cain made unwanted sexual advances to her while she worked for the association, and a pollster said he witnessed Cain sexually harass another woman after an association dinner.
The complaint at the immigration service was "nobody's business," Kraushaar said, because it was irrelevant to her sexual harassment settlement with Cain years earlier. "What you're looking for here is evidence of an employee who is out to get people," she said. "That's completely untrue."
Kraushaar, who started her career in Washington as a reporter, was praised for her work in 2000 when she traveled to Miami to help immigration officials during the coverage of the Elian Gonzalez case when federal agents seized the boy from relatives to return him to his father in Cuba.
"Ms. Kraushaar's assistance was invaluable and her performance extraordinary," wrote Robert A. Wallis, the immigration service district director in Miami. Kraushaar provided seven such letters of recommendation to show that her performance was commendable while working at the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the restaurant association and the immigration service.
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Has this been posted about Kraushaar?
Karen Kraushaar, Herman Cain Accuser, Filed Complaint At Next Job
www.huffingtonpost.com
WASHINGTON — Three years after Karen Kraushaar settled her sexual harassment complaint against Herman Cain and quit the trade association where they worked, she filed another complaint at her new job. She argued that supervisors there unfairly denied her request to work from home after a car accident and accused one of them of circulating a sexually oriented email, The Associated Press has learned.
Kraushaar, 55, says she later dropped the complaint that she filed while working as a spokeswoman at the Immigration and Naturalization Service in late 2002 or early 2003 and left the agency to take a job at the Treasury Department. She says she considered the immigration service complaint "relatively minor."
But three former supervisors say the allegations, which did not include a sexual harassment claim, were investigated and treated seriously. Two former supervisors say she initially demanded a settlement of thousands of dollars, a promotion on the federal pay scale, reinstated leave time and a one-year fellowship to Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. The promotion itself would have increased her annual salary between $12,000 and $16,000, according to salary tables in 2002 from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management.
Details of the second complaint come as Kraushaar says she will provide specifics about the allegations she made against Cain, the GOP businessman now running for president who led the National Restaurant Association when she worked there. She is reaching out to three other Cain accusers, suggesting they can schedule a joint news conference to rebut Cain's insistence that he has never sexually harassed anyone.
The accusations against Cain surfaced briefly at Monday night's debate on the economy. The audience booed loudly as Cain was asked how the allegations would reflect on a business' chief executive.
Cain countered that Americans "don't care about the character assassination; they care about leadership." He added that says that since the allegations surfaced more than a week ago, "voters have voted with their dollars," and contributed to his campaign.
Earlier in the day, Cain's campaign said news of Kraushaar's complaint at the immigration service and details about another accuser's financial problems were "interesting revelations."
"We hope that the court of public opinion will take this into consideration as they, the women, continue to try to keep this story alive," spokesman J.D. Gordon said in a statement Wednesday.
The Cain campaign projected an air of business as usual with the release of his first TV ad of the season and the announcement that he will appear on the "Late Show with David Letterman" on Nov. 18.
Cain also appeared Wednesday night at a GOP candidates' debate in Michigan.
The 60-second ad, airing only in Iowa, amplifies Cain's oft-repeated claim that the Environmental Protection Agency is hurting farmers by attempting to regulate methane gas from livestock and agricultural dust. The EPA under President Barack Obama has said it has no such plans.
And the campaign announced an endorsement from Georgia state Sen. Renee Unterman, a Republican woman whose backing comes as Cain works to steady support among female voters amid increasingly graphic sexual harassment allegations.
Democrats were beginning to speak up on Cain.
The party's national chair, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, said at a news conference before the debate, "They are very serious allegations and he must be called to account and be specific in his response to those allegations. He has not done that to date."
When Kraushaar filed her immigration service complaint against supervisors in late 2002 or early 2003, she turned to Joel Bennett, the same Washington lawyer who handled her earlier sexual harassment complaint against Cain.
"The concern was that there may have been discrimination on the job and that I was being treated unfairly," Kraushaar said.
Kraushaar said she did not remember details about the complaint and did not remember asking for a payment, a promotion or a fellowship. Bennett declined to discuss the case with the AP, saying he considered it confidential.
Kraushaar now works as a spokeswoman in the office of the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration.
Her complaint at the immigration service was based on supervisors denying her request to work fulltime from home after a serious car accident in 2002, three former supervisors said. Two of them said Kraushaar also had been denied previous requests to work from home before the car accident.
The complaint also cited as objectionable an email that a manager had circulated comparing computers to men and women, a former supervisor said. The complaint contended that the email, based on humor widely circulated on the Internet, was sexually explicit, according to the supervisor, who did not have a copy of the email. The joke circulated online lists reasons men and women are like computers, including that men are because "in order to get their attention, you have to turn them on." Women are like computers, it says, because "even your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for later retrieval."
Kraushaar told the AP that she remembered the complaint focusing on supervisors denying her the opportunity to work from home after her car accident. She said other employees were allowed to work from home.
Kraushaar, who is married and lives in suburban Maryland, was one of two women who formally settled harassment complaints against Cain in exchange for severance payments in the late 1990s when they worked at the restaurant association. Bennett has said Kraushaar settled her claim during the summer of 1999, shortly after Cain left the organization. Neither Kraushaar nor Bennett has described exactly what Cain was accused of saying or doing when she worked there. The New York Times has reported that Kraushaar received $45,000 in the settlement with the restaurant association.
Kraushaar agreed to discuss some aspects of the complaint at the immigration service if the AP agreed to protect her privacy, as it did in previous accounts of her complaint against Cain. She subsequently waived her privacy by confirming for news organizations her identity as one of two women who settled complaints against Cain, so the AP no longer is shielding her identity.
Cain said allegations of sexual harassment by Kraushaar – whom Cain identified by name in a televised news conference Tuesday – were determined to be "baseless" at the restaurant association. But he did not explain who made this determination, and Kraushaar has disputed this. Cain said that after negotiations between Bennett and the association's outside counsel she received money under an employment agreement, which Cain said was different from a legal settlement.
"When she made her accusations, they were found to be baseless and she could not find anyone to corroborate her story," Cain said.
Cain said he remembered gesturing to Kraushaar and noting that she was the same height as his wife, about chin-high to him. The Georgia businessman said Kraushaar did not react noticeably, but he said the restaurant association lawyer later told him that was the most serious claim that Kraushaar had made against him, "the one she was most upset about."
"Other things that might have been in the accusations, I'm not aware of, I don't remember," Cain said.
Bennett told reporters Wednesday that Kraushaar suffered multiple incidents of harassment and would not have filed a claim based only on a comment about height.
"My client is an intelligent, well-educated woman. She would never file a sexual harassment complaint about a comment like that," he said.
Cain has vowed to strike back at his accusers and respond to any allegations. His Atlanta-based lawyer, Lin Wood, said Wednesday the campaign had asked the restaurant association for the complaints that Kraushaar and the other employee filed so he could prepare a more complete response, but the group refused to release them.
Sharon Bialek, a Chicago woman who once worked for the restaurant association's education foundation, accused Cain this week of groping her and attempting to force himself on her inside a parked car after they had dinner in 1997. Another woman told the AP that Cain made unwanted sexual advances to her while she worked for the association, and a pollster said he witnessed Cain sexually harass another woman after an association dinner.
The complaint at the immigration service was "nobody's business," Kraushaar said, because it was irrelevant to her sexual harassment settlement with Cain years earlier. "What you're looking for here is evidence of an employee who is out to get people," she said. "That's completely untrue."
Kraushaar, who started her career in Washington as a reporter, was praised for her work in 2000 when she traveled to Miami to help immigration officials during the coverage of the Elian Gonzalez case when federal agents seized the boy from relatives to return him to his father in Cuba.
"Ms. Kraushaar's assistance was invaluable and her performance extraordinary," wrote Robert A. Wallis, the immigration service district director in Miami. Kraushaar provided seven such letters of recommendation to show that her performance was commendable while working at the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the restaurant association and the immigration service.
Yes it has. The joke that got Kraushaar all bent out of shape wouldn't have blinked an eye and she would have been laughed out of court.