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Title: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State - he is done
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2011, 06:57:11 AM
I can't believe they let that nonsense go on for years
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: mad hatter on November 09, 2011, 07:05:52 AM
Should have been terminated when the news came out.  Considering he harbored and ignored a child rapist on his staff he should have lost any right to decide when he can leave.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tendonitis on November 09, 2011, 07:07:07 AM
He needs to go RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: bike nut on November 09, 2011, 07:07:59 AM
Terminated immediately and leave with the disgrace and disrespect he deserves.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: BayGBM on November 09, 2011, 07:19:07 AM
Obviously, he has to go.  Cases like this are going climb the ladder.

I recall another “chain reaction” case back in the 1980s.  Basketball player Len Bias at the University of Maryland was drafted by the Boston Celtics.  To celebrate his selection, Len and his buddies partied hard including indulging in cocaine.  He overdosed and died!  A huge scandal ensued!  Within two months basketball coach Lefty Driesell was fired.  Within 6-7 months the campus athletic director was fired.  Within a year the university president, John Slaughter, was fired.  University leaders had cultivated a particular culture on campus that was judged partially responsible for the Bias overdose.  In the wake of the death and punishing news coverage the campus had to clean house.  Something similar will happen at Penn; if i was President at Penn, I would be looking at my retirement portfolio or talking to executive recruiters about my next job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefty_Driesell
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 07:23:00 AM
Sick Son of a Bitch.  >:( >:(

Happy Valley, huh?

I have some friends who go there and pretty much the consesus is that everyone is just confused.  They understand what has happened, but they don't know what to do.  Penn State has literally gone from one of the most respectable colleges and football teams in the country to scum in 72 hours.  From what I have heard is that people just want things to change and many are almost denying that anything happened because it is just so hard to understand.  I think this is just a sad day for everyone around.  College football, Penn State, the Big Ten, Joe Pa, and most importantly the kids who were unrighteously ignored and harmed.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2011, 07:23:33 AM
The students of Penn State still love him!

Here he is rallying the troops. Talking from a window following the accusations.

Are these students in denial. Is Jo Pa an institution himself?

Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: bike nut on November 09, 2011, 07:24:06 AM
Having a player die from a drug overdose (said to be one-time use) and covering up a 60-something year old man raping 10 year old boys are two wildly different issues.

I get your point, but this may be so big and ugly the NCAA tries to help hush it up.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: newmom on November 09, 2011, 07:24:59 AM
how convenient and his contract is up anyway...FUCK OFF
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Heywood on November 09, 2011, 07:26:39 AM
Paterno became king and Penn State was his kingdom.  Problem is, he stayed about 20 years too long.  He had long since lost his direction.

I doubt he even understands what the fuck was going on.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tendonitis on November 09, 2011, 07:27:40 AM
how convenient and his contract is up anyway...FUCK OFF

Exactly.  There was a good chance he was FINALLY going to retire, be forced out  or die after this season anyway.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: BayGBM on November 09, 2011, 07:27:52 AM
Having a player die from a drug overdose (said to be one-time use) and covering up a 60-something year old man raping 10 year old boys are two wildly different issues.

I get your point, but this may be so big and ugly the NCAA tries to help hush it up.

I don't get your point.  This is a national news story covered by every major newspaper and sports outlet in the country.  Short of building a time machine and going back into the past, how can it be hushed up? ???
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: dr.chimps on November 09, 2011, 07:29:24 AM
Having a player die from a drug overdose (said to be one-time use) and covering up a 60-something year old man raping 10 year old boys are two wildly different issues.

I get your point, but this may be so big and ugly the NCAA tries to help hush it up.
I wonder how PennUCorp is gonna deal with their falling profit margins?
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: what: on November 09, 2011, 07:30:13 AM
Paterno became king and Penn State was his kingdom.  Problem is, he stayed about 20 years too long.  He had long since lost his direction.

I doubt he even understands what the fuck was going on.


Penn State grad here.  This is pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: MB on November 09, 2011, 07:32:07 AM
He won't make it to the end of the season. 
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Reeves on November 09, 2011, 07:36:52 AM
Pedophilia is disgusting and needs to be eradicated from the earth. 
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: bike nut on November 09, 2011, 07:38:45 AM
Bay - if PSU was more worried about their legacy and their agenda, what would make anyone think the NCAA wouldn't try to continue in the same vein?
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2011, 07:41:56 AM
I think Notorious BIG said it best.

F**K the state pen.... F**k hoes at Penn State.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: BayGBM on November 09, 2011, 07:42:19 AM
I wonder how PennUCorp is gonna deal with their falling profit margins?

I just checked.  They are already calling for Graham Spanier (Penn's President) to be fired.



As Students Call for President's Ouster, Insiders Say Board Told Spanier to Keep Silent
By Brad Wolverton

With hundreds of students chanting for his removal outside Pennsylvania State University's main administrative building here Tuesday night, and the national news media pounding away at the university's response to allegations of heinous sex-abuse crimes by a former coach, President Graham B. Spanier remained unusually silent. For the third straight day, one of higher education's most outspoken leaders had nothing to say.

That may not be his choice, two individuals close to the administration told The Chronicle on Tuesday. He is following strict orders from the university's Board of Trustees not to talk.

"It's tearing Graham up to sit by and watch everything he's done to build up this university over nearly 17 years—and see this individual's alleged acts tear away at it," said one of the sources, who asked not to be identified because of the board's policy.

Of particular concern to the president, this person said, are questions about how much he and others in the administration knew about allegations raised in 1998 and 2002 that a former Nittany Lions' defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky, had sexually abused boys on university property. Mr. Sandusky, who was arrested Saturday on 40 criminal counts of child sex abuse, has maintained his innocence.

Mr. Spanier has told people close to him that the first time he heard about the 1998 allegations —which were investigated by Penn State's police department and other law-enforcement officials, but resulted in no arrest —was last month.

As for the 2002 conversation, in which a football graduate assistant reported seeing Mr. Sandusky sodomize a young boy in the football locker room's showers late one night, "Graham believes he never had any indication of any kind that a sexual assault occurred," the source said. "He doesn't know where the breakdown was."

Mr. Spanier, whose leadership has come under fire by the board, has appeared upbeat and positive in recent days, say those who have interacted with him. He's holding staff meetings, trying to keep people focused on university business, and even met with a job prospect Monday night.

"The board has some really big decisions to make this week," said the source. "We don't know what those decisions are going to be, but we're here to fight."

Late Tuesday night and into Wednesday, scores of white TV vans lined College Avenue, as camera lenses turned on a university campus distraught over four straight days of intense, negative media attention. Students flooded into the streets. They blocked traffic while chanting support for the longtime head football coach, Joe Paterno, as packs of police officers in riot gear stood on the corners.

Earlier in the night, fans held a raucous pep rally at Mr. Paterno's house—with the 84-year-old coach ambling out to lead cheers at one point. Then students turned up by the hundreds to remember the victims of the alleged sex crimes and to express their displeasure with the administration.

"Graham's gotta go! Graham's gotta go!" shouted students gathered outside Old Main, Penn State's grand administrative building, where Mr. Spanier has an office.

One of those students, 21-year-old Stephanie Sapol, said the president's silence was only causing people to doubt him more . . .
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 07:44:28 AM
Let me preface by saying that I am a lifelong sports fan with college football being my second fav sport.

What is so sad and scary about the situation is that if he was in almost any other walk of life as a profession he would be gone right now and that is a key element of what allowed this sickening garbage to go on for so long.  Kids and parents allegations being ignored because a "legend" make a conscious decision to continually cover it up and sacrifice those kids for the "betterment" of their football program.  To hell with Paterno, and anybody else who knew of this and didn't do anything about it.  Sandusky should be shot in the gut and left in the desert.  Sicko pile of shit.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2011, 07:47:17 AM
Let me preface by saying that I am a lifelong sports fan with college football being my second fav sport.

What is so sad and scary about the situation is that if he was in almost any other walk of life as a profession he would be gone right now and that is a key element of what allowed this sickening garbage to go on for so long.  Kids and parents allegations being ignored because a "legend" make a conscious decision to continually cover it up and sacrifice those kids for the "betterment" of their football program.  To hell with Paterno, and anybody else who knew of this and didn't do anything about it.  Sandusky should be shot in the gut and left in the desert.  Sicko pile of shit.
Watch the video I posted. I just can't believe students are screaming "We love you Joe, We're proud of you"

When they don't know all the facts. Are they in denial? is his legend really "too big to fail"
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 07:51:35 AM
Watch the video I posted. I just can't believe students are screaming "We love you Joe, We're proud of you"

When they don't know all the facts. Are they in denial? is his legend really "too big to fail"

I saw a clip of that on the news.  So delusional that just because he wasn't the one in the shower with the kids then he shouldn't be held responsible.  Anybody who defends him or this in anyway is a sack of shit or dumbass.  Pure and simple.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: SaltShaker on November 09, 2011, 07:52:12 AM
He needs to go RIGHT NOW.
#1 or # 2?
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 08:01:46 AM
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Presentment.pdf

For those of you interested, below is the link to the full grand jury report from their investigation into the Jerry Sandusky abuse case.  WARNING:  Graphic language

For all you Pennsylvania lawyers out there:  Does PA not have a specific reporting duty provision in the General Statutes that requires a witness of abuse to report it to the authorities?  I ask because there is such a provision here in other state statutes, in which case McQueary's and Paterno's failure to report would be a criminal failure to report had this occurred in those states.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2011, 08:06:06 AM
"Jerry Sandiski can molest a 10-year od.. but can't buy a running back a t-shirt".

- colin Cowherd
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 08:06:47 AM
"Jerry Sandiski can molest a 10-year od.. but can't buy a running back a t-shirt".

- colin Cowherd

He is a fucking moron.  8)
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: newmom on November 09, 2011, 08:07:06 AM
thanks for the link doug, I could throw up
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 08:07:33 AM
He is a fucking moron.  8)

x2  Cowturd tries WAAAAAAYYYYY too hard to be controversial.  Can you imagine him on getbig? haha
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2011, 08:08:03 AM
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Presentment.pdf

For those of you interested, below is the link to the full grand jury report from their investigation into the Jerry Sandusky abuse case.  WARNING:  Graphic language

For all you Pennsylvania lawyers out there:  Does PA not have a specific reporting duty provision in the General Statutes that requires a witness of abuse to report it to the authorities?  I ask because there is such a provision here in other state statutes, in which case McQueary's and Paterno's failure to report would be a criminal failure to report had this occurred in those states.
I think the extent to which this monster operated will soon come to light.
To think that he adopted a child, ran outreach groups and mentored kids of all ages. The access to young children his position allowed leads me to the conclusion that this is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the number of victims

The true numbers could be nightmarish.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2011, 08:09:08 AM
He is a fucking moron.  8)

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?s=espn

he just broke into tears on the air, talking with some guy who had been molested who called in.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 08:10:54 AM
thanks for the link doug, I could throw up

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?s=espn

he just broke into tears on the air, talking with some guy who had been molested who called in.

Are you serious? I am in class and cannot hear shit....
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: MB on November 09, 2011, 08:12:42 AM
"Jerry Sandiski can molest a 10-year od.. but can't buy a running back a t-shirt".

- colin Cowherd

Colin's right, buying gifts for the athletes is lack of institutional control, but allowing Sandusky on campus (even as recent as last week) is not?  C'mon NCAA, step in there and do the dirty work if PSU is not going to. 
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: newmom on November 09, 2011, 08:13:10 AM
lol at in class and posting on getbig. Fucking concentrate in school and not getbig.


Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2011, 08:13:53 AM
Getting flash backs to a harrowing documentary I saw a few years ago "Deliver us form Evil"

It documented how Father Oliver O'Grady, a Catholic priest  was relocated to various parishes around the United States during the 1970s in an attempt by the Catholic Church to cover up his abuse of dozens of children.

A giant cover up with many higher ups having full knowledge, yet turning a blind eye as to not tarnish the image of the institution. I was almost sick after seeing this film.

The trailer alone makes your blood boil


Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: newmom on November 09, 2011, 08:15:30 AM
Getting flash backs to a harrowing documentary I saw a few years ago "Deliver us form Evil"

It documented how Father Oliver O'Grady, a Catholic priest  was relocated to various parishes around the United States during the 1970s in an attempt by the Catholic Church to cover up his abuse of dozens of children.

A giant cover up with many higher ups having full knowledge, yet turning a blind eye as to not tarnish the image of the institution. I was almost sick after seeing this film.



I couldn't watch that. Bastards
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2011, 08:18:47 AM
lol at in class and posting on getbig. Fucking concentrate in school and not getbig.

Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 09, 2011, 08:43:21 AM
the guy reported it to his superiors, who were in charge of university police, what else do you want him to do, they decided to not do anything.  Why did the police not act, the da, etc etc, the blame is not on him.  He is not law enforcement, actually he should not have to do anything at all.  If you see a mugging on the street you are not obligated to do anything, that is a police matter.  Mind your own business, he did nothing wrong, this is not a society where you have to call the cops on everything you see, wtf are you guys thinking?

Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 08:45:50 AM
the guy reported it to his superiors, who were in charge of university police, what else do you want him to do, they decided to not do anything.  Why did the police not act, the da, etc etc, the blame is not on him.  He is not law enforcement, actually he should not have to do anything at all.  If you see a mugging on the street you are not obligated to do anything, that is a police matter.  Mind your own business, he did nothing wrong, this is not a society where you have to call the cops on everything you see, wtf are you guys thinking?



Shut-up dumbass.  "reported to superiors"  ::)   It was a criminal act so he should have contacted the police.  Your trolling is getting weaker and weaker....
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: newmom on November 09, 2011, 08:48:14 AM
the guy reported it to his superiors, who were in charge of university police, what else do you want him to do, they decided to not do anything.  Why did the police not act, the da, etc etc, the blame is not on him.  He is not law enforcement, actually he should not have to do anything at all.  If you see a mugging on the street you are not obligated to do anything, that is a police matter.  Mind your own business, he did nothing wrong, this is not a society where you have to call the cops on everything you see, wtf are you guys thinking?



and if he had a lick of common sense or a heart and saw nothing was being done, then he should of gone to the police. He still should of gone to them in the first place but I'm playing devils advocate
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2011, 08:51:18 AM
the guy reported it to his superiors, who were in charge of university police, what else do you want him to do, they decided to not do anything.  Why did the police not act, the da, etc etc, the blame is not on him.  He is not law enforcement, actually he should not have to do anything at all.  If you see a mugging on the street you are not obligated to do anything, that is a police matter.  Mind your own business, he did nothing wrong, this is not a society where you have to call the cops on everything you see, wtf are you guys thinking?


Are you serious. How could Jo Pa sleep at night knowing he was working alongside a sick ****. From all the vids I've seen, this guys entering early stages of dementia. He's barely able to string a coherent sentence together.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: wild willie on November 09, 2011, 08:53:08 AM
Joe Paterno was not a Sandusky fan at all.....He testified against the sick SOB.

Don't make this a case against Joe Pa.

Someone should have called the police......yes!!!


Paterno did go to court and did testify against this sick Jerry Sandusky.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Boost on November 09, 2011, 08:55:10 AM
reppingfor20 exemplifies the "Pass the blame" mentality that cowards usually exhibit.

This is worlds apart from witnessing a random street mugging. We are talking about systematic abuse happening within a tight knit community.

Why are people trying to protect this guy? (Jo Pa)
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 09, 2011, 08:55:47 AM
Shut-up dumbass.  "reported to superiors"  ::)   It was a criminal act so he should have contacted the police.  Your trolling is getting weaker and weaker....

The police where his superiors, they where in charge of university police dumbass.  They decided not to do anything, blame them not him.



Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: wild willie on November 09, 2011, 08:58:46 AM
Let me ask you folks this......


Paterno testified against this sack of shit......there was a hearing!!!!


where were the police???

why was sandusky still out and about???? why was he not locked up???

Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: apply85 on November 09, 2011, 08:59:43 AM
Obviously, he has to go.  Cases like this are going climb the ladder.

I recall another “chain reaction” case back in the 1980s.  Basketball player Len Bias at the University of Maryland was drafted by the Boston Celtics.  To celebrate his selection, Len and his buddies partied hard including indulging in cocaine.  He overdosed and died!  A huge scandal ensued!  Within two months basketball coach Lefty Driesell was fired.  Within 6-7 months the campus athletic director was fired.  Within a year the university president, John Slaughter, was fired.  University leaders had cultivated a particular culture on campus that was judged partially responsible for the Bias overdose.  In the wake of the death and punishing news coverage the campus had to clean house.  Something similar will happen at Penn; if i was President at Penn, I would be looking at my retirement portfolio or talking to executive recruiters about my next job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefty_Driesell



Bay is a smart guy, Len Bias is forgotten now but his case was really important.

Also, check this out http://news.yahoo.com/judge-facebook-post-cost-job-nj-teacher-010230579.html?bouchon=501,ny

A teacher makes a comment on facebook that every teacher ever has made in their own heads, and no one sticks up for her. Where has the courage gone, only fucking pedophiles get their shit swept under the rug, a coward soceity we live in
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: MB on November 09, 2011, 09:03:06 AM
the guy reported it to his superiors, who were in charge of university police, what else do you want him to do, they decided to not do anything.  Why did the police not act, the da, etc etc, the blame is not on him.  He is not law enforcement, actually he should not have to do anything at all.  If you see a mugging on the street you are not obligated to do anything, that is a police matter.  Mind your own business, he did nothing wrong, this is not a society where you have to call the cops on everything you see, wtf are you guys thinking?
So if you are a manager and your subordinate says they saw a coworker raping a child in the company bathroom, you would report it to your boss and then let it go without ever following up?  And then if you continued to see this child molestor around the company for another 10+ years and he even maintained an office at the company, you wouldn't ask any questions?  This is not a mugging on the street, Paterno knew everyone involved and was morally obligated to do more than he did.  He acted spineless. 
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 09:04:21 AM
The police where his superiors, they where in charge of university police dumbass.  They decided not to do anything, blame them not him.





You are either one of the dumbest posters or just yanking everybodys chain.  From what I read it was a graduate-assistant who caught Sandusky.....just so you know, police (both campus and real) would NOT be the guys superiors.  And it doesn't matter, when you see something that heinous being commited you don't just pass it along to the AD.  You call the cops and let them handle it.  Better yet, the cowardly pussy (probably why you can relate to him) should have busted Sandusky's head open with a 5lb plate on the spot.  Hope this helps...
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: apply85 on November 09, 2011, 09:07:33 AM
Also, Sanduski likely has shit on paterno, that's why paterno covered it up, now that paterno kept his mouth closed and went quietly, so can sandusky, if paterno blew up sandusky's spot then sandusky has incentive to start remembering all kinds of things paterno wants him to forget.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: wild willie on November 09, 2011, 09:10:11 AM
Also, Sanduski likely has shit on paterno, that's why paterno covered it up, now that paterno kept his mouth closed and went quietly, so can sandusky, if paterno blew up sandusky's spot then sandusky has incentive to start remembering all kinds of things paterno wants him to forget.
Not likely......Paterno is only guilty of not calling the cops.....as i said earlier.....he spoke out against sandusky in a court of law.....Paterno was an asset to PSU for 45 years.....sandusky was the sicko.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 09:11:50 AM
Not likely......Paterno is only guilty of not calling the cops.....as i said earlier.....he spoke out against sandusky in a court of law.....Paterno was an asset to PSU for 45 years.....sandusky was the sicko.

So you give Joe a pass for "only" not calling the cops on this? Doubt you would feel the same way if it was your 10yr old son.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: wild willie on November 09, 2011, 09:14:01 AM
i hear you.....


but joe pa testified......my question is this.....who else testified.....


furthermore.....why wasn't jerry sandusky arrested???
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 09:16:08 AM
i hear you.....


but joe pa testified......my question is this.....who else testified.....


furthermore.....why wasn't jerry sandusky arrested???

I'm glad that he did testify, but I am absolutely stunned that he didn't report anything to the cops.  And I wonder if Sandusky not being arrested was because of the pull of Penn State to the surrounding community?  I hate it because I always thought Joe was a "good guy" with a clean program but this is so far beyond recruiting violations, etc... that it's hard to get your head around.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 09, 2011, 09:27:38 AM
You are either one of the dumbest posters or just yanking everybodys chain.  From what I read it was a graduate-assistant who caught Sandusky.....just so you know, police (both campus and real) would NOT be the guys superiors.  And it doesn't matter, when you see something that heinous being commited you don't just pass it along to the AD.  You call the cops and let them handle it.  Better yet, the cowardly pussy (probably why you can relate to him) should have busted Sandusky's head open with a 5lb plate on the spot.  Hope this helps...

I am talking about Joe Paterno, his superiors where also in charge of the university police, they decided to let this slide, so he did report it to university police.  Also Paterno did not see this happen, he heard of a summary who knows what the grad assistant told him, basically just gossip, and he actually reported it, so he really didn't have to report anything, it was on the grad assistant to report it not Joe Paterno who heard it second hand.  Also the graduate assistant doesn't have to report it either, you don't have to report crimes you see dumbass this is America.



Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Nails on November 09, 2011, 09:28:01 AM
Who reported this to the media now ???

the kid that was rapped?

the football player that saw the rap?

The football players father who reported it to Joe?


how many children did this perv do this to in the university showeroom?

as you can tell i been out the media loop for a long week
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 09:31:04 AM
He is a demented old man. I'm not sure he even knows what's happening.

He needs to be fired today. Sick.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: apply85 on November 09, 2011, 09:31:40 AM
look closely at the details, why was this going on in the university locker room, why was he not reported, it's because he had dirt on people and he wasn't the only one doing it, whether this comes out depends on how well certain people play their cards. He wasn't the only one with his willy in a little boy, that's for sure
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 09:37:23 AM
I am talking about Joe Paterno, his superiors where also in charge of the university police, they decided to let this slide, so he did report it to university police.  Also Paterno did not see this happen, he heard of a summary who knows what the grad assistant told him, basically just gossip, and he actually reported it, so he really didn't have to report anything, it was on the grad assistant to report it not Joe Paterno who heard it second hand.  Also the graduate assistant doesn't have to report it either, you don't have to report crimes you see dumbass this is America.





Actually, simpleteon, in many state you ARE obligated to report a crime of this nature.  Not sure about PA.  And I suppose now you are arguing with Paterno who just released a statement along the lines of "I should have done more looking back in hindsight."  That tells you he KNOWS he should have followed up on it, but didn't.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: BayGBM on November 09, 2011, 10:00:11 AM
I am talking about Joe Paterno, his superiors where also in charge of the university police, they decided to let this slide, so he did report it to university police.  Also Paterno did not see this happen, he heard of a summary who knows what the grad assistant told him, basically just gossip, and he actually reported it, so he really didn't have to report anything, it was on the grad assistant to report it not Joe Paterno who heard it second hand.  Also the graduate assistant doesn't have to report it either, you don't have to report crimes you see dumbass this is America.

Extract foot from mouth.  Lather. Rinse. Repeat.  Showstoppa is correct; citizens ARE obligated to report crimes of this nature.  It is a law.  Failure to report this kind of crime leaves you open to being charged!  :-[
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 11:05:53 AM
He is a demented old man. I'm not sure he even knows what's happening.

He needs to be fired today. Sick.

Look at Jerry's Book....

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef015392df38c3970b-320wi)

(http://3432-philly.voxcdn.com/files/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-little-boy-instructional-video.jpg)

Sick Fuckers.   :-\ :-\ >:( >:(
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 06:02:41 PM
After further review. . . Paterno is senile. The students at Penn State defending their coach/mentor/leader are living in denial.

Sickness
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: wes on November 09, 2011, 06:12:50 PM
Ya` think Jerry will be "Touched" in the big house ?  ;D

Fucking sick son of a bitch.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: G_Thang on November 09, 2011, 06:34:05 PM
seems like a lot going down in fag valley.  not much interest here but the story seems interesting.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 06:51:19 PM
seems like a lot going down in fag valley.  not much interest here but the story seems interesting.

Joe Pa has been FIRED!!
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 06:56:16 PM
300 year old Paterno was out in front of his house last night mumbling & rambling about, ". . . .kids being molested or whatever. . . " and then he lead the students in a Penn State cheer. Dude is totally senile.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 07:01:11 PM
300 year old Paterno was out in front of his house last night mumbling & rambling about, ". . . .kids being molested or whatever. . . " and then he lead the students in a Penn State cheer. Dude is totally senile.

That guy gave a fucking pep rally out on his front yard after kids had been molested.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 07:23:34 PM
Every single evening TV talk show, news show, interview show, etc is leading with this story and EVERY person is demanding Paterno be fired now.

Those freaks at Penn Sate must be brain washed to think otherwise.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: deadz on November 09, 2011, 07:26:17 PM
Paterno,,,meaningless in my life, WC.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 07:28:02 PM
GTHang is correct:

20 minutes ago. . .

..Penn STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN<-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.

One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower.

Paterno says he should have done more. Spanier has said he was not told the details of the attack.

Sandusky has denied the charges.

Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 07:28:53 PM
Every single evening TV talk show, news show, interview show, etc is leading with this story and EVERY person is demanding Paterno be fired now.

Those freaks at Penn Sate must be brain washed to think otherwise.

True Alumni know what is right and have been pissed since this story broke.

PEnn St BOT announces Joe Paterno out immediately. So is PennSt Pres Graham Spanier.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 07:30:42 PM
Someone just asked the vice chairman of the BoT if he realized how many people were marching on the streets. That's the least of his worries.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno and president
Post by: BayGBM on November 09, 2011, 07:46:45 PM
I called it this morning.  As in the Len Bias case at the University of Maryland: the coach, the athletic director, and the university president.  All will be fired!


Penn State trustees fire Joe Paterno and president
by Genaro C. Armas, Associated Press

Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.

One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower.

Paterno says he should have done more. Spanier has said he was not told the details of the attack.

Sandusky has denied the charges.

Defensive coordinator Tom Bradley will serve as interim coach while Rodney Erickson will serve as interim school president.

Earlier in the day, Paterno said in a statement he was "absolutely devastated" by the case, in which Sandusky, his onetime heir apparent was charged with molesting eight boys in 15 years, with some of the alleged abuse taking place at the Penn State football complex.

"This is a tragedy," Paterno said. "It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."

John Surma, the vice chair of the board of trustees said, "these decisions were made after careful deliberations and in the best interests of the university as a whole."
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 09, 2011, 07:49:35 PM
As in the Len Bias case: the coach, the athletic director, and the university president.  All will be fired!

As they should be.  The Bias thing tore my heart out.  He abused my Tar Heels for 4 yrs, but redemption was mine when he was drafted by my fav pro team, the Celtics..... I was devastated.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: BayGBM on November 09, 2011, 08:07:12 PM
Even their website is down.  http://www.psu.edu/   :-X
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: sean on November 09, 2011, 08:20:12 PM
can someone catch me up to speed. bullet points only please.

my questions: are these really children, our is this sensationalism at its best? 18-23 year old men aren't children. IF you're letting yourself get fucked by another man at the ages above you're a fag. plain and simple.

so whats the gig here? are these "children" really kids or are we talking gay-ism in the locker room? wtf?
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: WillGrant on November 09, 2011, 08:25:34 PM
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Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Mattyh7688 on November 09, 2011, 08:26:44 PM
I am currently getting my MBA from Penn State and I am sickened and appalled by the overwhelming support for these scumbags. I am glad he is fired and embarassed to call myself a Nittany Lion.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 08:29:31 PM
Amazing how this is story is suddenly about a coach forced out instead of the kids he failed to protect from a sexual predator. Just wrong.

Kirk Herbstreit - "This is bigger than Joe Paterno...this isn't the time to celebrate his career."

Amazing how this is story is suddenly about a coach forced out instead of the kids he failed to protect from a sexual predator. Just wrong.

Bo Schembechler used to say, "Nothing is bigger than Michigan, not even me." Sounds like JoePa could have used the advice of an old friend.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2011, 08:32:25 PM
One of my wrestling athetes is in his first year at Penn and he said the campus is going nuts.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The True Adonis on November 09, 2011, 08:36:22 PM
One of my wrestling athetes is in his first year at Penn and he said the campus is going nuts.
I bet their nuts are going crazy.  They want to be swallowed by Football Coaches and Football Coaches want to swallow them.

Gayer than a Christmas Boxed Set Blu-Ray of Boy George`s Greatest Hits.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2011, 08:39:13 PM
Fuck you Adam you little fucking coward. Did you forget I know your EXACT address? Little fucking prick (you).
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2011, 08:41:11 PM
TA is 1000% classless no matter how hw presents himself.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: apply85 on November 09, 2011, 08:43:26 PM
u type that while u rub pearl's panites against ur face yah schmoe? =]
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: The True Adonis on November 09, 2011, 08:43:42 PM
Fuck you Adam you little fucking coward. Did you forget I know your EXACT address? Little fucking prick (you).
Football is one of the few things that its not gay if you want it to be. IT IS GAY, so you don`t get a choice in the matter.

U mad Bro?
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Doug_Steele on November 09, 2011, 09:10:28 PM
Penn State University Radio reporting rumor that senior players will refuse to play Saturday in protest of Paterno's firing.

And there goes the first flipped news truck. Doing your school proud. You are ... Penn State.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 09, 2011, 09:13:33 PM
Penn State University Radio reporting rumor that senior players will refuse to play Saturday in protest of Paterno's firing.

And there goes the first flipped news truck. Doing your school proud. You are ... Penn State.  :-\ :-\

good for them, their voice is what counts, without the students tuition the university wouldn't exist.  The students should go to the board and find the men who made this decision and do whatever they want with them.  Students should have called the shot, after all they are the ones paying for everything.



Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2011, 09:16:35 PM
JT, I'm being serious. You seriously just need to shut the fuck up. I mean it sister. You have no know idea.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 09, 2011, 09:20:56 PM
JT, I'm being serious. You seriously just need to shut the fuck up. I mean it sister. You have no know idea.

counter my statement instead of just telling me to shutup.  If the students pay for the university to practically exist, they should have say in what happens.  In the US, the tax payers vote for the president.  Same should go with college, the students pay for the school.

The students should boycott penn state all together and show them who is boss, transfer from all penn state campuses to other colleges and watch penn state slowly evaporate.



Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 09:25:10 PM
can someone catch me up to speed. bullet points only please.

my questions: are these really children, our is this sensationalism at its best? 18-23 year old men aren't children. IF you're letting yourself get fucked by another man at the ages above you're a fag. plain and simple.

so whats the gig here? are these "children" really kids or are we talking gay-ism in the locker room? wtf?

The kids, 8 or 9 of them at this time- more will appear I'm sure, were between the ages of 8 years old and 13 years old. They were raped multiply times. One rape was witnessed- that rape took place it the College Football team's locker room shower.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2011, 09:26:04 PM
Counter what? Students are not the boss of shit. Most are thinkers like you that's why its fucked up. Get it? Its not about football its about the victims. They don't quite get that.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: TacoBell on November 09, 2011, 09:27:13 PM
If only Sandusky had picked boys a few years older.  Then he'd just be gay and socially celebrated.  8) ::) :-\
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 09, 2011, 09:28:48 PM
Counter what? Students are not the boss of shit. Most are thinkers like you that's why its fucked up. Get it? Its not about football its about the victims. They don't quite get that.

How dare someone think for themselves!  LOL

Yes students have the ultimate say, as in taking their money elsewhere, just as in banks losing customers if they charge stupid fee's, Bank of America is a prime example of this.

Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: bike nut on November 09, 2011, 09:30:05 PM
In summary:

If an old lady hunts down young boys for sex, she's a cougar.

If an old man hunts down young boys for sex, he's a Nittany Lion.

Too early?
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: SF1900 on November 09, 2011, 09:31:07 PM
In summary:

If an old lady hunts down young boys for sex, she's a cougar.

If an old man hunts down young boys for sex, he's a Nittany Lion.

Too early?

 A lot of female teachers have been brought up on charges for having sex with boys that are minors.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: SF1900 on November 09, 2011, 09:32:32 PM
I cant believe there are actual students standing up for Paterno. What dumb fucks!
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: bike nut on November 09, 2011, 09:34:00 PM
SF1900 - you're not real bright are you?

Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: SF1900 on November 09, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
SF1900 - you're not real bright are you?



well, i also read bits and pieces of posts and I only briefly read what you wrote about cougars and didn't read the rest, so maybe I missed a point. I tend to only read bits and pieces of threads.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 09:57:31 PM
Penn State University Radio reporting rumor that senior players will refuse to play Saturday in protest of Paterno's firing.

And there goes the first flipped news truck. Doing your school proud. You are ... Penn State.  :-\ :-\

If they do, in 20 years they can look back and tell themselves that they stood up for the rights & honor of a coach who KNEW that a child molester was in their ranks and did everything possible to PROTECT the child molester.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 09:59:07 PM
good for them, their voice is what counts, without the students tuition the university wouldn't exist.  The students should go to the board and find the men who made this decision and do whatever they want with them.  Students should have called the shot, after all they are the ones paying for everything.

So if I pay for my hotel room, I can demolish it and burn down the entire hotel? OK sounds good to me.
Title: Re: AP: Joe Paterno to retire from Penn State at end of season
Post by: tommywishbone on November 09, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
In summary:

If an old lady hunts down young boys for sex, she's a cougar.

If an old man hunts down young boys for sex, he's a Nittany Lion.

Too early?

Not bad. LOL