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It's not the "democrat machine" taking down Cain. ::) The dems would LOVE for Cain to be the nominee. He doesn't know anything!
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he sure had that I'm fucked look in the debate.
loved it.
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Herman Cain and the Denial Campaign
Sexual-harassment deniers are in overdrive amid the escalating complaints against the presidential hopeful. Their arguments don’t add up.
by Leslie Bennetts | November 9, 2011
In recent days, sexual-harassment deniers have been working overtime as they cast around for increasingly far-fetched reasons why everyone should ignore the escalating array of complaints about Herman Cain’s behavior.
The problem is that in doing so, they also have to ignore corroborating evidence, the life experience of the larger half of the human population, and that irritating old nuisance, common sense.
It’s hardly surprising that Cain himself is denying the charges about his misconduct, which “simply didn’t happen,” he insisted this week. After all, both his presidential campaign and the image on which he built his success would be mortally wounded by an emerging public consensus that he’s been lying.
But what’s everyone else’s excuse?
Naysayers dismissed the initial reports about Cain because the first two women whose unfortunate experiences hit the news were not identified by name. Both women were bound by confidentiality agreements that deterred them from speaking out, but Cain and his supporters had a field day deriding the legitimacy of their complaints, even though the National Restaurant Association deemed them serious enough to warrant financial settlements.
Cain’s poll numbers survived the first round of charges, but the reports kept coming as two women turned into three, then four, then five. Cain supporters who had pegged their defense to the “anonymous doesn’t count” argument were forced to rethink their strategy when No. 4, Sharon Bialek, came forward to tell the world how Cain behaved when she went to see him, looking for a job.
Cain and his allies had spent days demanding the specifics of any complaints; big mistake, as it turned out when Bialek obliged by delivering the kind of specifics you couldn’t forget even if you wanted to. Particularly vivid was the part about how Cain stuck his hand up her skirt and between her legs, forced her head down toward his crotch, and said, “You want a job, right?”
Bialek’s account was so arresting that Cain apologists were reduced to sniping at her hair (she was a “blonde bombshell,” so obviously her testimony was unreliable!) and her footwear (she was wearing “do-me shoes,” in the immortal parlance of the inimitably vicious New York Post columnist Andrea Peyser).
Although Bialek’s history of financial troubles initially inspired some gloating, that line of attack lost a lot of its oomph after Bialek said she didn’t take any money for telling what happened. Oops. It’s so inconvenient when you’re trying to portray a woman as a gold-digger and she points out that she could have sold her story but didn’t.
Some guys simply dismiss the whole subject as a paranoid conspiracy by man-haters bent on spoiling all the fun.
And yet such pesky facts never seem to deter conservatives—particularly conservative men—from trashing women who have been sexually harassed and have the temerity to object. Some guys simply dismiss the whole subject as a paranoid conspiracy by man-haters bent on spoiling all the fun.
In National Review Online, the Neanderthal commentator John Derbyshire (already on record as saying that naked women aren’t worth looking at if they’ve passed the 15-20 age range, because after that gravity takes too much of a toll on their bodies) scoffed at the very idea of sexual harassment.
“Is there anyone who thinks sexual harassment is a real thing?” Derbyshire harrumphed. “Is there anyone who doesn’t know it’s all a lawyers’ ramp, like ‘racial discrimination’? You pay a girl a compliment nowadays, she runs off and gets lawyered up. Is this any way to live? ... We’re supposed to believe that the nation is seething with ‘harassment’ and ‘discrimination,’ women being groped in every business office and crosses burning on every lawn. For Heaven’s sake. Aren’t there any grown-ups around?”
The harassment deniers also included right-wing talk-radio host Mark Simone, who sneered at Bialek’s testimony after her press conference, according to Daily Beast reporter Michelle Goldberg.
“‘You didn’t actually believe any of that, did you?’ he asked, smirking.” Goldberg wrote. “I said it sounded plausible to me. He gave a condescending laugh and said it was a good thing that I don’t work for the police department.”
Such comments raise a dizzying array of questions, but one of the most obvious is: do men like that ever read the news, let alone talk to actual female human beings?
In a new study released this week, the American Association of University Women reported that more than half of all middle-school and high-school girls surveyed had experienced some form of sexual harassment in the past year. Fifty-two percent were harassed in person, and 36 percent reported having been harassed online. Only 9 percent ever reported the abuse.
And why might that be? When news broke about the first two women who had filed official complaints against Cain, the lawyer for one said she didn’t want to identify herself for fear of being turned into another Anita Hill.
Such fears are well-founded. Last month marked the 20th anniversary of Justice Clarence Thomas’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings, in which Anita Hill’s testimony about Thomas’s sexual harassment in two different jobs triggered an extraordinarily venomous right-wing campaign to destroy her reputation, her credibility, and her career.
During the televised hearings, women all over the country were horrified at the way Hill was treated by the all-male Senate Judiciary Committee, whose members were not only hostile but seemingly oblivious to the pervasiveness of sexual harassment in American society. “They just don’t get it!” became a such common refrain among women that it turned into a rallying cry for the emerging movement to combat sexual harassment.
But when it comes to sexual harassment complaints, the gender gap has always been striking. “I’ve never met a woman who didn’t believe Anita Hill,” Gloria Steinem commented recently.
No doubt there are a few who didn’t; Thomas’s wife, Ginni, is still convinced that Hill made it all up. For most of us, however, all you have to do is be born female and you can’t help but get it.
The minute you hit puberty, if not before, strange men start exposing themselves to you in public, pressing up against you and groping you in buses and subways and elevators, not to mention harassing you every time you walk down the street.
“I live three blocks from my subway stop, and one morning I decided to count the number of men who harassed me from the time I left my building until I got on the subway,” a 19-year-old college student told me recently. “The number got so far up in the double figures that I lost count.”
That was less than five minutes of normal life as females typically experience it—a daily reality whose existence still seems to elude men who deny the endemic nature of sexual harassment in our society.
The anniversary of the Thomas hearings was marked by numerous events honoring Anita Hill, including a conference at Hunter College that was co-sponsored by A Call To Men, an organization that provides sexual-harassment training for corporations.
According to Ted Bunch, cofounder of the group, awareness of sexual harassment has grown during the last two decades, but that hasn’t diminished its frequency. “In the workplace, I do think it’s not as blatant today, but it hasn't necessarily decreased,” says Bunch. “There are certain rules in place at a job site that say, ‘You can’t do it here,’ but that doesn’t mean that men don’t do it elsewhere. It’s certainly very prevalent on the street; it’s everywhere. In a male-dominated culture, we’re really socialized to see women as objects; we’re taught that they’re there to service us and our needs, and we’re not in touch with their humanity.”
And many males still believe they can behave that way with impunity, according to Jimmie Briggs, founder of Man Up, an international campaign to stop violence against women and girls. “Men look around and see how rare it is for a man to be held accountable for harassment in the workplace or on the street,” Briggs says. “The conversation over sexual harassment is much more open than it was 20 years ago, but we have a long way to go.”
Indeed, it seems that even when they’re held accountable, some men still don’t get it—like Herman Cain. According to the Los Angeles Times, Cain expressed exasperation that the media was still focusing on “insignificant stuff” like the sexual-harassment complaints about him.
"This should have been a story that should have been dead in less than two hours,” he said. “The media scrutiny to try to turn this into a story bigger than it is, to get us distracted and to get this nation distracted.”
But the real question is, to get us distracted from what? Sexual harassment is about the lust for sexual gratification, obviously, but it’s also about power. When a man in a position of authority pressures a woman to service him sexually even if she doesn’t want to, and her ability to refuse is compromised by her need for the job, or the paycheck, or the grade, or by any other manifestation of her dependent status, the man is committing an egregious abuse of power. For him, that’s a large part of the point: he’s demonstrating his dominance and demanding that the woman acknowledge her subservience.
The relevance of such conduct should be obvious to anyone with an IQ room temperature. When voters form their opinion of a candidate’s character, there are few more critical questions than the issue of how that candidate uses—or abuses—power.
And anyone who thinks that the chronic abuse of power over women is “insignificant” is, by definition, unfit for office.
As for all those Republican voters who continue to support Cain despite a clear pattern of misconduct over many years, they’re simply reprehensible. Do none of these people have daughters? Or sisters? Or wives, or girlfriends? Or mothers? Has any of them ever pictured some man grabbing the head of their precious daughter, forcing it down toward his crotch and demanding that she service him if she wants a job?
And if these defenders of men like Cain have never thought about such things, why haven’t they?
How about trying a little experiment: in the next few days, ask the women in your own family what their life experiences with sexual harassment have been. If you’re surprised by the answers, you should be ashamed of yourself. You sure as hell haven’t been paying much attention to what goes on in the world you live in.
In fact, we all know what sexual harassment is by now, and those who deny its existence or its prevalence are like the “hear no evil, see no evil” monkeys who put their hands over the eyes and plug up their ears so they don’t have to deal with the truth.
The evidence is there for everyone to see. And the time for making excuses is over.
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he paid 70 grand to these 2 accusers, then quit the company before his contract was up.
just too many question marks on this candidate. Newt, Ron paul, Mitt, bachmann, huntsmann would all do fine against obama.
Cain? We all know it's only a matter of time til a hotel receipt or text message or picture shows he's been full of shit all along. And INNOCENT man would take a polygraph, and move on. Crying about "For every 1 person that says I tried for a BJ, there are thousands that say I didn't do that"
Some defense :(
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Herman Cain.....wears nice hats. :D
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Democrats hate a black man bating for the other team. Democrats all of the sudden throw of their little fake tolerance hats and go all apeshit.
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screw u benny .. cain for the win!!
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It's not the "democrat machine" taking down Cain. ::) The dems would LOVE for Cain to be the nominee. He doesn't know anything!
Are you and JTsunami blowing each other or something? Because 98% of the shit you post you can't prove.
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Are you and JTsunami blowing each other or something? Because 98% of the shit you post you can't prove.
no offense Coach, but 98% of anything that has to do with politics cannot be proven by the
getbiggers posting it
the truth is, the media is completely ran with a monetary agenda, and believing what fox news
says is about as realistic as a president having Americans best interest in mind...every politician
out there bases their "beliefs" and "ethics" on what their donators to their campaings want
if you cannot see this, you should go to college....Enron is a perfect example of how America
is really ran...when Ted Turner wants you to believe something, he makes it happen because
the little sheep just follow the herd
you guys arguing back and forth is about as productive as blacks getting welfare for life
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no offense Coach, but 98% of anything that has to do with politics cannot be proven by the
getbiggers posting it
the truth is, the media is completely ran with a monetary agenda, and believing what fox news
says is about as realistic as a president having Americans best interest in mind...every politician
out there bases their "beliefs" and "ethics" on what their donators to their campaings want
if you cannot see this, you should go to college....Enron is a perfect example of how America
is really ran...when Ted Turner wants you to believe something, he makes it happen because
the little sheep just follow the herd
you guys arguing back and forth is about as productive as blacks getting welfare for life
We can prove something isn't a lie until it's proven a lie. Benny, JT and the rest of the left wingers who are calling this a "lie" have as much proof as the people accusing him of the crime.
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very true.
so now it's up the investigative journalists to take each statement of denial Herb made and prove him wrong.
Why not? we've got a whole year to go before the general election. :D
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Benny.... are you scared that we have someone who will derail your "city organizer" and his far left agenda???
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he paid 70 grand to these 2 accusers, then quit the company before his contract was up.
just too many question marks on this candidate. Newt, Ron paul, Mitt, bachmann, huntsmann would all do fine against obama.
Cain? We all know it's only a matter of time til a hotel receipt or text message or picture shows he's been full of shit all along. And INNOCENT man would take a polygraph, and move on. Crying about "For every 1 person that says I tried for a BJ, there are thousands that say I didn't do that"
Some defense :(
This. Cain has come off too smug and arrogant from his OWS comments, to his 9-9-9 plan to his denials of sexual "misconduct", to telling us that the public doesn't want to deal with gossip, to not knowing that China had Nukes...
The repubs have basically Nobody, a bunch a benchwarmers...it's sad. It perfectly shows on both sides, that quality has gone down---the America is going down. Nothing but a 3 ring circus, and Cain is the Bumblin Ring Leader who delivers pizzas during intermission.
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A man to trust. 8)
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Democrats hate a black man bating for the other team. Democrats all of the sudden throw of their little fake tolerance hats and go all apeshit.
We don`t need any more ideas from any other people of color. Got it?
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"Where the white wimmin at?"
-Herman Cain
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"Where the white wimmin at?"
-Herman Cain
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I'm all for the sexual harrasment of women by our politicians, it shows a willingness to stand up to all these feminist loud mouth sexless women and manginas that now run the show.
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Imagine if Herman Cain woke up tomorrow as a white man.
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Imagine if Herman Cain woke up tomorrow as a white man.
Not going to happen. He needs to GTFO at this point. I can`t trust a black man who treats white women like that. He is just another completely worthless negro in my opinion.
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Tell me this is not Mike Tyson with glasses, and a mustache!?
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Tell me this is not Mike Tyson with glasses, and a mustache!?
Second career... and again...
rape on the horizone ;D ;D ;D
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Benny.... are you scared that we have someone who will derail your "city organizer" and his far left agenda???
Terrified...just like I was of Bachmann, Trump, Palin, Perry, etc.
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I'm not a fan of Herman Cain's and I think these accusations should be enough to sink his campaign, HOWEVER: This thread title is racist in and of itself. UNCLE Herman Cain?!? So you're calling him an Uncle Tom? This really is a case of the far left throwing out racial/ethnic tolerance when it doesn't serve them. The left doesn't like it when a black man breaks with their cult.
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I'm not a fan of Herman Cain's and I think these accusations should be enough to sink his campaign, HOWEVER: This thread title is racist in and of itself. UNCLE Herman Cain?!? So you're calling him an Uncle Tom? This really is a case of the far left throwing out racial/ethnic tolerance when it doesn't serve them. The left doesn't like it when a black man breaks with their cult.
We would call him the N-word, but for some reason decided to block it. I hope this helps.
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I'm not a fan of Herman Cain's and I think these accusations should be enough to sink his campaign, HOWEVER: This thread title is racist in and of itself. UNCLE Herman Cain?!? So you're calling him an Uncle Tom? This really is a case of the far left throwing out racial/ethnic tolerance when it doesn't serve them. The left doesn't like it when a black man breaks with their cult.
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The title is not racist.
Uncle Tom, Uncle Ruckus...either one applies to the clown known as Herman Cain.
And when it comes to race, the right plays it to the fullest:
What Playing the Race Card Looks Like
By Conor Friedersdorf
Americans For Cain, a pro-Herman Cain political action committee, has put out the advertisement
If you're someone who is truly offended by frivolous accusations of racism that invoke the subject as a cynical political tool, this ad ought to make you furious. I wonder how many conservatives will see it that way. I addressed the subject a recent post, and I can't help but agree with Paul Waldman's assessment of how racism is now treated inside the conservative movement:
1. The primary victims of racism are white people.
2. The most vicious form of racism is when a white person is falsely accused of being a racist.
3. On rare occasions, a black person can be a victim of racism, but this only occurs when a prominent black conservative is criticized for, well, for pretty much anything. In that case, the criticism can only be motivated by the racism that liberals feel in their hearts, unlike conservatives, who all believe in the equality of all people.
Can you imagine if a pro-Barack Obama PAC had run an ad like that during the 2008 election?
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We would call him the N-word, but for some reason decided to block it. I hope this helps.
Yes, you are a dumb, UGLY, redneck goober from backwoods North Carolina. Like a character straight out of "Deliverance"...probably the result of generations of inbreeding. :-X
No need to solidify what we already know with your posts.
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Yes, you are a dumb, UGLY, redneck goober from backwoods North Carolina. Like a character straight out of "Deliverance"...probably the result of generations of inbreeding. :-X
No need to solidify what we already know with your posts.
I do plan on voting for Obama and no, I am the furthest person from racism. I hate all races equally.
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And they hate you. Probably the most classless individual on here.
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And they hate you. Probably the most classless individual on here.
Whatever fatso. ::)
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Let me guess: Benny's foolish HP/DU tripe got bumped off the G&O thread.....AGAIN.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but......
David Axelrod's Pattern of Sexual Misbehavior
Herman Cain has spent his life living and working all over the country -- Indiana, Georgia, Minnesota, Nebraska, Kansas, Washington, D.C. -- but never in Chicago.
So it's curious that all the sexual harassment allegations against Cain emanate from Chicago: home of the Daley machine and Obama consigliere David Axelrod .
Suspicions had already fallen on Sheila O'Grady, who is close with David Axelrod and went straight from being former Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley's chief of staff to president of the Illinois Restaurant Association (IRA), as being the person who dug up Herman Cain's personnel records from the National Restaurant Association (NRA).
The Daley-controlled IRA works hand-in-glove with the NRA. And strangely enough, Cain's short, three-year tenure at the NRA is evidently the only period in his decades-long career during which he's alleged to have been a sexual predator.
After O'Grady's name surfaced in connection with the miraculous appearance of Cain's personnel files from the NRA, she issued a Clintonesque denial of any involvement in producing them -- by vigorously denying that she knew Cain when he was at the NRA. (Duh.)
And now, after a week of conservative eye-rolling over unspecified, anonymous accusations against Cain, we've suddenly got very specific sexual assault allegations from an all-new accuser out of ... Chicago.
Herman Cain has never lived in Chicago. But you know who has? David Axelrod! And guess who lived in Axelrod's very building? Right again: Cain's latest accuser, Sharon Bialek.
Bialek's accusations were certainly specific. But they also demonstrated why anonymous accusations are worthless.
Within 24 hours of Bialek's press conference, friends and acquaintances of hers stepped forward to say that she's a "gold-digger," that she was constantly in financial trouble -- having filed for personal bankruptcy twice -- and, of course, that she had lived in Axelrod's apartment building at 505 North Lake Shore Drive, where, she admits, she knew the man The New York Times calls Obama's "hired muscle."
Throw in some federal tax evasion, and she's Obama's next Cabinet pick.
The reason all this is relevant is that both Axelrod and Daley have a history of smearing political opponents by digging up claims of sexual misconduct against them.
John Brooks, Chicago's former fire commissioner, filed a lawsuit against Daley six months ago claiming Daley threatened to smear him with sexual harassment accusations if Brooks didn't resign. He resigned -- and the sexual harassment allegations were later found to be completely false.
Meanwhile, as extensively detailed in my book Guilty: Liberal 'Victims' and Their Assault on America, the only reason Obama became a U.S. senator -- allowing him to run for president -- is that David Axelrod pulled sealed divorce records out of a hat, first, against Obama's Democratic primary opponent, and then against Obama's Republican opponent.
One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was way down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader.
But then The Chicago Tribune -- where Axelrod used to work -- began publishing claims that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings.
From then until Election Day, Hull was embroiled in fighting the allegation that he was a "wife beater." He and his ex-wife eventually agreed to release their sealed divorce records. His first ex-wife, daughters and nanny defended him at a press conference, swearing he was never violent. During a Democratic debate, Hull was forced to explain that his wife kicked him and he had merely kicked her back.
Hull's substantial lead just a month before the primary collapsed with the nonstop media attention to his divorce records. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote.
Luckily for Axelrod, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced.
The Republican nominee was Jack Ryan, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard law and business schools, who had left his lucrative partnership at Goldman Sachs to teach at an inner-city school on the South Side of Chicago.
But in a child custody dispute some years earlier, Ryan's ex-wife, Hollywood sex kitten Jeri Lynn Ryan , had alleged that, while the couple was married, Jack had taken her to swingers clubs in Paris and New York.
Jack Ryan adamantly denied the allegations. In the interest of protecting their son, he also requested that the records be put permanently under seal.
Axelrod's courthouse moles obtained the "sealed" records and, in no time, they were in the hands of every political operative in Chicago. Knowing perfectly well what was in the records, Chicago Tribune attorneys flew to California and requested that the court officially "unseal" them -- over the objections of both Jack and Jeri Ryan .
Your honor, who knows what could be in these records!
A California judge ordered them unsealed, which allowed newspapers to publish the salacious allegations, and four days later, Ryan dropped out of the race under pressure from idiot Republicans (who should be tracked down and shot).
With a last-minute replacement of Alan Keyes as Obama's Republican opponent, Obama was able to set an all-time record in an Illinois Senate election, winning with a 43 percent margin.
And that's how Obama became a senator four years after losing a congressional race to Bobby Rush . (In a disastrous turn of events, Rush was not divorced.)
Axelrod destroyed the only two men who stood between Obama and the Senate with illicitly obtained, lurid allegations from their pasts.
In 2007, long after Obama was safely ensconced in the U.S. Senate, The New York Times reported: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece (on Hull's sealed divorce records) later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story."
Some had suggested, the Times article continued, that Axelrod had "an even more significant role -- that he leaked the initial story."
This time, Obama's little helpers have not only thrown a bomb into the Republican primary, but are hoping to destroy the man who deprives the Democrats of their only argument in 2012: If you oppose Obama, you must be a racist.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438
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Let me guess: Benny's foolish HP/DU tripe got bumped off the G&O thread.....AGAIN.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but......
David Axelrod's Pattern of Sexual Misbehavior
Herman Cain has spent his life living and working all over the country -- Indiana, Georgia, Minnesota, Nebraska, Kansas, Washington, D.C. -- but never in Chicago.
So it's curious that all the sexual harassment allegations against Cain emanate from Chicago: home of the Daley machine and Obama consigliere David Axelrod .
Suspicions had already fallen on Sheila O'Grady, who is close with David Axelrod and went straight from being former Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley's chief of staff to president of the Illinois Restaurant Association (IRA), as being the person who dug up Herman Cain's personnel records from the National Restaurant Association (NRA).
The Daley-controlled IRA works hand-in-glove with the NRA. And strangely enough, Cain's short, three-year tenure at the NRA is evidently the only period in his decades-long career during which he's alleged to have been a sexual predator.
After O'Grady's name surfaced in connection with the miraculous appearance of Cain's personnel files from the NRA, she issued a Clintonesque denial of any involvement in producing them -- by vigorously denying that she knew Cain when he was at the NRA. (Duh.)
And now, after a week of conservative eye-rolling over unspecified, anonymous accusations against Cain, we've suddenly got very specific sexual assault allegations from an all-new accuser out of ... Chicago.
Herman Cain has never lived in Chicago. But you know who has? David Axelrod! And guess who lived in Axelrod's very building? Right again: Cain's latest accuser, Sharon Bialek.
Bialek's accusations were certainly specific. But they also demonstrated why anonymous accusations are worthless.
Within 24 hours of Bialek's press conference, friends and acquaintances of hers stepped forward to say that she's a "gold-digger," that she was constantly in financial trouble -- having filed for personal bankruptcy twice -- and, of course, that she had lived in Axelrod's apartment building at 505 North Lake Shore Drive, where, she admits, she knew the man The New York Times calls Obama's "hired muscle."
Throw in some federal tax evasion, and she's Obama's next Cabinet pick.
The reason all this is relevant is that both Axelrod and Daley have a history of smearing political opponents by digging up claims of sexual misconduct against them.
John Brooks, Chicago's former fire commissioner, filed a lawsuit against Daley six months ago claiming Daley threatened to smear him with sexual harassment accusations if Brooks didn't resign. He resigned -- and the sexual harassment allegations were later found to be completely false.
Meanwhile, as extensively detailed in my book Guilty: Liberal 'Victims' and Their Assault on America, the only reason Obama became a U.S. senator -- allowing him to run for president -- is that David Axelrod pulled sealed divorce records out of a hat, first, against Obama's Democratic primary opponent, and then against Obama's Republican opponent.
One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was way down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader.
But then The Chicago Tribune -- where Axelrod used to work -- began publishing claims that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings.
From then until Election Day, Hull was embroiled in fighting the allegation that he was a "wife beater." He and his ex-wife eventually agreed to release their sealed divorce records. His first ex-wife, daughters and nanny defended him at a press conference, swearing he was never violent. During a Democratic debate, Hull was forced to explain that his wife kicked him and he had merely kicked her back.
Hull's substantial lead just a month before the primary collapsed with the nonstop media attention to his divorce records. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote.
Luckily for Axelrod, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced.
The Republican nominee was Jack Ryan, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard law and business schools, who had left his lucrative partnership at Goldman Sachs to teach at an inner-city school on the South Side of Chicago.
But in a child custody dispute some years earlier, Ryan's ex-wife, Hollywood sex kitten Jeri Lynn Ryan , had alleged that, while the couple was married, Jack had taken her to swingers clubs in Paris and New York.
Jack Ryan adamantly denied the allegations. In the interest of protecting their son, he also requested that the records be put permanently under seal.
Axelrod's courthouse moles obtained the "sealed" records and, in no time, they were in the hands of every political operative in Chicago. Knowing perfectly well what was in the records, Chicago Tribune attorneys flew to California and requested that the court officially "unseal" them -- over the objections of both Jack and Jeri Ryan .
Your honor, who knows what could be in these records!
A California judge ordered them unsealed, which allowed newspapers to publish the salacious allegations, and four days later, Ryan dropped out of the race under pressure from idiot Republicans (who should be tracked down and shot).
With a last-minute replacement of Alan Keyes as Obama's Republican opponent, Obama was able to set an all-time record in an Illinois Senate election, winning with a 43 percent margin.
And that's how Obama became a senator four years after losing a congressional race to Bobby Rush . (In a disastrous turn of events, Rush was not divorced.)
Axelrod destroyed the only two men who stood between Obama and the Senate with illicitly obtained, lurid allegations from their pasts.
In 2007, long after Obama was safely ensconced in the U.S. Senate, The New York Times reported: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece (on Hull's sealed divorce records) later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story."
Some had suggested, the Times article continued, that Axelrod had "an even more significant role -- that he leaked the initial story."
This time, Obama's little helpers have not only thrown a bomb into the Republican primary, but are hoping to destroy the man who deprives the Democrats of their only argument in 2012: If you oppose Obama, you must be a racist.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438
Why is Negro Cain lying about the whole thing though?
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Not, only is the lone specific charges of alleged sexual harrassment/assault coming from a woman in CHICAGO, but this same woman owes Axelrod thousands of dollars.
But, it gets better. As stated earlier, she has a kid from an adulterous affair with her boss, another CEO. The IRS has been hounding for years, seizing her assets and putting liens on her.
Yet, conveniently, when Cain is atop the GOP polls, some 14 years or so after allegedly being almost raped, here she comes.....with left-winged liberal legal hack, Gloria Allred (fresh off her smear job of GOP's Meg Whitman last year) in tow.
Edit - It's a different David Axelrod, in her legal case.
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Why is Negro Cain lying about the whole thing though?
What's he lying about again, O factually vacant one?
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What's he lying about again, O factually vacant one?
He lied about the whole thing. Claiming to know nothing, not even knowing these women. LIE LIE LIE LIE and still continues to lie.
You sure had a problem with Weiner and that was just pics of his own dick. This is a dirty negro feeling up white women and then pretending to not know anything.
Your hypocrisy runs deep.
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He lied about the whole thing. Claiming to know nothing, not even knowing these women. LIE LIE LIE LIE and still continues to lie.
You sure had a problem with Weiner and that was just pics of his own dick. This is a dirty negro feeling up white women and then pretending to not know anything.
Your hypocrisy runs deep.
What did he lie about?
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What did he lie about?
Claiming to not even know these women for one, despite having eye witness accounts of being together and even pictures.
Lying about all of it.
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He lied about the whole thing. Claiming to know nothing, not even knowing these women. LIE LIE LIE LIE and still continues to lie.
You sure had a problem with Weiner and that was just pics of his own dick. This is a dirty negro feeling up white women and then pretending to not know anything.
Your hypocrisy runs deep.
Cain said the NRA cleared him. Kraushaar's lawyer CONFIRMED THAT (see the CNN article I posted).
Cain said he wasn't aware of a legal settlement; CBS confirmed that. What Cain called a severance deal with Kraushaar went down 2-3 months AFTER Cain left NRA.
And the ONLY accusers with any specifics just happens to be someone in debt to Obama's campaign manager, with a history of chronic unemployment, and screwing her bosses (i.e. West Naze, the father of her child).
Now, you have any thing of substance to add, or will you continue to flap your beak incessantly minus a clue?
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Claiming to not even know these women for one, despite having eye witness accounts of being together and even pictures.
Lying about all of it.
The eyewitness accouts claim that Bialek was hugging him and being "flirtatous", awfully strange behavior towards someone who supposedly nearly raped you 15 years ago, ain't it?
Furthermore, with her reputation of boss-humping, maybe it wasn't CAIN who was making the sexual advances.
Cain's at a Tea Party rally with THOUSANDS of people. I bet other people took pics with him as well. Dollars to donuts, he wouldn't remember most of them if he saw them again.
You miss again, Adonis.
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looks like axelrod and Cain are birds of a feather, treating women as their personal playthings to degrade and pay off for their silence.
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looks like axelrod and Cain are birds of a feather, treating women as their personal playthings to degrade and pay off for their silence.
yet yo spammed 276 threads on cain and not one on Axelrod. So much for Mr. libertarian RP supporter. ::)
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And, as I just heard from Rush about a half hour ago, a CNN report says Kraushaar may back out of the press conference, if all four women (counting herself) don't show. Bialek had not yet committed.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/10/first-on-cnn-kraushaar-wont-do-news-conference-without-other-accusers/
Gee....I wonder why the switch. Last week, her laywer said she was dying to talk but for that pesky confidentiality clause in her severance deal.
The NRA waived it; she STILL DIDN'T TALK. And, I believe someone leaked her identity.
Next, she called for a united press conference. But, with Bialek's past showing some fishy connections and motives, all of a sudden, she's clamming up.
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Hey, 333386,
Remember that voice analyst guy, TJ Ward, you mentioned yesterday?
Check this out:
Private investigator TJ Ward said presidential hopeful Herman Cain was not lying at a news conference on Tuesday in Phoenix.
Cain denied making any sexual actions towards Sharon Bialek and vowed to take a polygraph test if necessary to prove his innocence.
Cain has not taken a polygraph but Ward said he does have software that does something better.
Ward said the $15,000 software can detect lies in people’s voices.
CBS Atlanta’s Mike Paluska played Cain’s speech for Ward into the software and watched as it analyzed Cain’s every word.
If he is hiding something this thing would have spiked way down here,” said Ward. “He is being truthful, totally truthful. He is a man with integrity and he talked directly about not knowing any incident he is accused of.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/10/voice_analysis_cain_totally_truthful_while_accuser_is_inaccurate.html
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great we don't even need court trails any more we'll just have them speak into the mic, next thing you will tell me is that a guy built a boat and put 2 of every animal in it :D
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yet yo spammed 276 threads on cain and not one on Axelrod. So much for Mr. libertarian RP supporter. ::)
i agree with just about all the shit yo've said about the phony mess that is axelrod.
can you find anything where i've DEFENDED the d-bag? Of course not.
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i agree with just about all the shit yo've said about the phony mess that is axelrod.
can you find anything where i've DEFENDED the d-bag? Of course not.
Again - I asked you for ONE THREAD from 2007 - 2010 bashing obama and his admn.
Just one thread bro.
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great we don't even need court trails any more we'll just have them speak into the mic, next thing you will tell me is that a guy built a boat and put 2 of every animal in it :D
Are you really this daft? Their speeches were analyzed after the fact.
Of course, like the common form of poultry you are, you continue to dodge the questions cited toward you.
And, of course, you'll run from these latest developments, tieing Sharon Bialek with Obama campaign manager, David Axelrod.
It also turns out that Shiela O'Grady, of the Illinois Restaurant Association (IRA), dug up Cain's NRA files. Guess with whom she has ties.....DAVID AXELROD!!!!
You may resume your ducking and hiding now.
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He lied about the whole thing. Claiming to know nothing, not even knowing these women. LIE LIE LIE LIE and still continues to lie.
You sure had a problem with Weiner and that was just pics of his own dick. This is a dirty negro feeling up white women and then pretending to not know anything.
Your hypocrisy runs deep.
You complain about Cain's allegation, yet you're kneepadding for Obama......the product of a "dirty negro feeling up white women" (and more).
THAT'S HYPOCRISY!!!
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tell us more about the magical box :D :D :D cain doesn't have to try hard to convince the fools that surport him.did you hear this on rush
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tell us more about the magical box :D :D :D cain doesn't have to try hard to convince the fools that surport him.did you hear this on rush
The only magical box is mobacca who looks to have an appendage.
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tell us more about the magical box :D :D :D cain doesn't have to try hard to convince the fools that surport him.did you hear this on rush
Days late, dollars short, and apparently unable to read. I believe I posted the link today and 333386 posted the article yesterday. Ask TJ Ward; it's his machine.
Why don't you tell the class why Kraushaar is about to kill her press conference, after just DYING to talk just a few days ago?
Or, another question, which you've been asked a half-dozen times, why a supposed victim of sexual assault/harrassment was hugging and chatting with her alleged assailant 14 years later?
I guess lack of sense and cowardice are TK requirements, which would explain why you and Adonis are card-carrying members.
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The only magical box is mobacca who looks to have an appendage.
who would have guessed you would be looking to see if she had a co#k :D
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who would have guessed you would be looking to see if she had a co#k :D
that's normally my job around here...
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that's normally my job around here...
;D
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(http://i.qkme.me/ex6.jpg)
I'm sorry!! How did Obama get here again? Hint: It ain't rape.
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I'm sorry!! How did Obama get here again? Hint: It ain't rape.
What is your point? I am not understanding what you are trying to convey here?
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What is your point? I am not understanding what you are trying to convey here?
The point is you're having a hissy fit over black men, humping white women. Meanwhile, the very guy for whom you voted, whom you claim is a closet atheist, for whom you've been kneepadding for nearly THREE YEARS, is the VERY PRODUCT of what you supposedly loathe.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060174/Herman-Cain-PASSES-lie-detector-test-sexual-harassment-claims.html
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hahahah the lie detector test through a t.v. :D :D :D :D :D :D
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They're reporting today that he's still raising money hand over fist.
I'm actually surprised, I thought that this might be what does him in. Now, not so sure.
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hahahah the lie detector test through a t.v. :D :D :D :D :D :D
The Forsythe County Sheriff's Office seems to like it, as does about 70 other law enforcement agencies.
BTW, Kraushaar has canned her big press conference, all of a sudden. I wonder why!!
Then, there's the woman who dug up Cain's NRA files who just happens to ALSO have connections with David Axelrod.
But, of course, being the coward you are, you will duck and dodge those issue, just as you have ducked the question as to why Bialek is taking photos and schmoozing with someone who supposedly almost raped her and try to get her to blow him to get her job back.
Hahaha that!!!
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They're reporting today that he's still raising money hand over fist.
I'm actually surprised, I thought that this might be what does him in. Now, not so sure.
$9 million, since this garbage started. And notice how, rather than lay all their allegations out specifically, they dredge up this mess a little at a time, to see if it skewers Cain's campaign or forces him to quit.
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They're reporting today that he's still raising money hand over fist.
I'm actually surprised, I thought that this might be what does him in. Now, not so sure.
Repubs threw an assload of $ at Rick perry before waiting to see if he was competent.
Repubs threw an assload of $ at Palin - Just to convince her to run (When bristol revealed in June she wouldn't win)
Repubs made it rain $ on bachmann early on too.
Repubs throw a ton of $ at a canddiate EARLY, then realize what the candidate is about. Cain will be the same. Yall will settle for Romney.
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Repubs threw an assload of $ at Rick perry before waiting to see if he was competent.
Repubs threw an assload of $ at Palin - Just to convince her to run (When bristol revealed in June she wouldn't win)
Repubs made it rain $ on bachmann early on too.
Repubs throw a ton of $ at a canddiate EARLY, then realize what the candidate is about. Cain will be the same. Yall will settle for Romney.
If that were the case, Romney would be running away with this thing. But, he's not.
Furthermore, many people thought Cain didn't have a chance earlier, because he had little money.
If Romney wins it, he wins it. But your feigned outrage about Cain, based on unsubstantiated charges, made by unidentified or unscrupulous accusers (12-15 years after the alleged incidents occurred) is beyond laughable.
Cain got to the front-runner status with little money (relatively speaking), BEFORE this foolishness started. He's raised $9 million since October 1, over $2 million of that came since these harassment charges started.
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cain didn't know china had nukes.
cain is an entertainer, not a serious leader.
cain would realease all the gitmo bad guys for 1 US hostage.
cain was wishy washy on a crisis he had 11 days (or 14 years) to prepare for.
cain performs terribly under pressure. Undeniable.
Romney is going to be mr consistency against obama. newt will be a rock star against obama.
Perry will blank and cain is just an unpredictable wildcard. I want a safe person going up against obama.
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They're reporting today that he's still raising money hand over fist.
I'm actually surprised, I thought that this might be what does him in. Now, not so sure.
I think people actually see what a load of crap this has been. The whole process has been unfair to Cain IMO.
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The point is you're having a hissy fit over black men, humping white women. Meanwhile, the very guy for whom you voted, whom you claim is a closet atheist, for whom you've been kneepadding for nearly THREE YEARS, is the VERY PRODUCT of what you supposedly loathe.
No. I have a problem of any man forcing themselves upon a woman without consent.
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I think people actually see what a load of crap this has been. The whole process has been unfair to Cain IMO.
his "oh yeah, NOW i recall in detail the conversations" lie is okay with some people,, you're right.
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I think people actually see what a load of crap this has been. The whole process has been unfair to Cain IMO.
You mean accusations alone for public officials?
I'd probably agree.
It'll be interesting to see if McWay or Lurker turns out right about the polls. I was thinking he might just back out by now, but it looks as if he's standing his ground.
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No. I have a problem of any man forcing themselves upon a woman without consent.
As do I. But your comment about the "Negro" Cain and "white women", coupled with the pics you posted, suggest that your blathering ain't just about having a problem with guys trying to force themselves on women.
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cain didn't know china had nukes.
cain is an entertainer, not a serious leader.
cain would realease all the gitmo bad guys for 1 US hostage.
cain was wishy washy on a crisis he had 11 days (or 14 years) to prepare for.
cain performs terribly under pressure. Undeniable.
Romney is going to be mr consistency against obama. newt will be a rock star against obama.
Perry will blank and cain is just an unpredictable wildcard. I want a safe person going up against obama.
Obama can't pronounce "corpsman"
Obama said there were 57 states
Obama said on Memorial Day that there were Memorial day vets in the audience.
Obama flip-flopped on his stance on marriage.
Yet, you voted for him anyway.
So, spare us your feigned outrage at Cain.
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As do I. But your comment about the "Negro" Cain and "white women", coupled with the pics you posted, suggest that your blathering ain't just about having a problem with guys trying to force themselves on women.
I like making fun of what people perceive as race, racial stereotypes, norms and mores. Some are certainly rooted in truth. Don`t worry, I dislike all people equally.
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Obama can't pronounce "corpsman"
Obama said there were 57 states
Obama said on Memorial Day that there were Memorial day vets in the audience.
Obama flip-flopped on his stance on marriage.
Yet, you voted for him anyway.
So, spare us your feigned outrage at Cain.
cain's as good as obama. we get your point.
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In last 2 weeks, Cain lost almost 1/2 of female supporters, but men still on the Cain Train.
Two new national polls confirm there’s been measurable slippage in Herman Cain’s support in the GOP presidential race — but that he remains at or near the top of what remains an unsettled field.
A CBS News poll puts the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO in first place, but only with 18 percent — a drop of seven points from CBS’ last poll two weeks ago. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are tied for second with 15 percent, followed by Rick Perry at 8. A McClatchy/Marist survey, meanwhile, has Romney in the lead with 23 percent, Gingrich in second at 19, and Cain close behind at 17.
Cain’s dip seems to be primarily the result of defections from female supporters. In the last CBS poll, which was released October 25, he actually enjoyed more support from women (28 percent) than from men (22 percent) and led the GOP pack with 25 percent. But now, after more than a week of intense news coverage of sexual harassment allegations, only 15 percent of female GOP voters say Cain is their top choice, while 21 percent of men are still with him.
Cain’s plummeting support among Republican women may reflect something of a split among conservative opinion-shapers.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/11/herman_cains_gender_gap/singleton
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In last 2 weeks, Cain lost almost 1/2 of female supporters, but men still on the Cain Train.
Two new national polls confirm there’s been measurable slippage in Herman Cain’s support in the GOP presidential race — but that he remains at or near the top of what remains an unsettled field.
A CBS News poll puts the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO in first place, but only with 18 percent — a drop of seven points from CBS’ last poll two weeks ago. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are tied for second with 15 percent, followed by Rick Perry at 8. A McClatchy/Marist survey, meanwhile, has Romney in the lead with 23 percent, Gingrich in second at 19, and Cain close behind at 17.
Cain’s dip seems to be primarily the result of defections from female supporters. In the last CBS poll, which was released October 25, he actually enjoyed more support from women (28 percent) than from men (22 percent) and led the GOP pack with 25 percent. But now, after more than a week of intense news coverage of sexual harassment allegations, only 15 percent of female GOP voters say Cain is their top choice, while 21 percent of men are still with him.
Cain’s plummeting support among Republican women may reflect something of a split among conservative opinion-shapers.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/11/herman_cains_gender_gap/singleton
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:D :D :D :D :D
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The Forsythe County Sheriff's Office seems to like it, as does about 70 other law enforcement agencies.
BTW, Kraushaar has canned her big press conference, all of a sudden. I wonder why!!
Then, there's the woman who dug up Cain's NRA files who just happens to ALSO have connections with David Axelrod.
But, of course, being the coward you are, you will duck and dodge those issue, just as you have ducked the question as to why Bialek is taking photos and schmoozing with someone who supposedly almost raped her and try to get her to blow him to get her job back.
Hahaha that!!!
On Wednesday, 9 November 2011, CBS Atlanta aired an interview with private investigator T.J. Ward, who used a computer program to analyze recorded statements by Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain and Sharon Bialek, who alleges that Cain made a sexual advance on her when she sought his help getting a job. According to Ward’s software, Cain “is being truthful, totally truthful” in denying Bialek’s claim, while Bialek “is fabricating what transpired.”
Ward claimed his software cost $15,000 and has an accuracy rate of 95%. While CBS Atlanta did not disclose the name of this software, a link on Ward’s website indicates that it is Layered Voice Analysis (LVA), a program developed by Amir Liberman’s Nemesysco, Ltd., an Israeli company. This software was completely discredited by Swedish linguists Anders Eriksson and Francisco Lacerda in a 2007 article titled “Charlatanry in Speech Science: A Problem to Be Taken Seriously” (International Journal of Speech, Language and the Law, Vol. 14, No. 2). For more on LVA, see “Nemesysco Founder Amir Liberman Is a Charlatan.”
Not that it matters (LVA being pseudoscientific flapdoodle), but it is perhaps worth observing that private investigator T.J. Ward had chosen the setting for analyzing a male voice when conducting his analysis of Sharon Bialek’s remarks:
:D :D
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On Wednesday, 9 November 2011, CBS Atlanta aired an interview with private investigator T.J. Ward, who used a computer program to analyze recorded statements by Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain and Sharon Bialek, who alleges that Cain made a sexual advance on her when she sought his help getting a job. According to Ward’s software, Cain “is being truthful, totally truthful” in denying Bialek’s claim, while Bialek “is fabricating what transpired.”
Ward claimed his software cost $15,000 and has an accuracy rate of 95%. While CBS Atlanta did not disclose the name of this software, a link on Ward’s website indicates that it is Layered Voice Analysis (LVA), a program developed by Amir Liberman’s Nemesysco, Ltd., an Israeli company. This software was completely discredited by Swedish linguists Anders Eriksson and Francisco Lacerda in a 2007 article titled “Charlatanry in Speech Science: A Problem to Be Taken Seriously” (International Journal of Speech, Language and the Law, Vol. 14, No. 2). For more on LVA, see “Nemesysco Founder Amir Liberman Is a Charlatan.”
Not that it matters (LVA being pseudoscientific flapdoodle), but it is perhaps worth observing that private investigator T.J. Ward had chosen the setting for analyzing a male voice when conducting his analysis of Sharon Bialek’s remarks:
:D :D
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Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
To live
They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Tellin' great big liesThey got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet
Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
`Round here
Short people are just the same
As you and I
(A fool such as I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It's a wonderful world)
Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
To love
They got little baby legs
That stand so low
You got to pick em up
Just to say helloThey got little cars
That go beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin' peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They're gonna get you every time
Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
'Round here
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Blackass - if it comes down to Cain v. Obama - who are you voting for?
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In last 2 weeks, Cain lost almost 1/2 of female supporters, but men still on the Cain Train.
Two new national polls confirm there’s been measurable slippage in Herman Cain’s support in the GOP presidential race — but that he remains at or near the top of what remains an unsettled field.
A CBS News poll puts the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO in first place, but only with 18 percent — a drop of seven points from CBS’ last poll two weeks ago. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are tied for second with 15 percent, followed by Rick Perry at 8. A McClatchy/Marist survey, meanwhile, has Romney in the lead with 23 percent, Gingrich in second at 19, and Cain close behind at 17.
Cain’s dip seems to be primarily the result of defections from female supporters. In the last CBS poll, which was released October 25, he actually enjoyed more support from women (28 percent) than from men (22 percent) and led the GOP pack with 25 percent. But now, after more than a week of intense news coverage of sexual harassment allegations, only 15 percent of female GOP voters say Cain is their top choice, while 21 percent of men are still with him.
Cain’s plummeting support among Republican women may reflect something of a split among conservative opinion-shapers.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/11/herman_cains_gender_gap/singleton
everyone with a brain knew that women were going to desert Cain after hearing these claims.
If he was highly intelligent ala newt, you could look past his issues. But he's flawed with women, flawed because of the 9/9/9 tax hikes, flawed on china nukes, flawed on gitmo, flawed on abortion.
repubs are holding onto him cause they have no one else.
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everyone with a brain knew that women were going to desert Cain after hearing these claims.
If he was highly intelligent ala newt, you could look past his issues. But he's flawed with women, flawed because of the 9/9/9 tax hikes, flawed on china nukes, flawed on gitmo, flawed on abortion.
repubs are holding onto him cause they have no one else.
Flawed for being a creepy Negro molesting White Women. There is more smoke and fire I am sure to Negroid Cain and I bet it gets worse and worse. Look at the greasy head Malcolm X wannabe.
(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/herman-and-gloria-cain1-e1320684075728.jpg?w=402)
33333366,
Is this REALLY what you want to vote for?
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Flawed for being a creepy Negro molesting White Women. There is more smoke and fire I am sure to Negroid Cain and I bet it gets worse and worse. Look at the greasy head Malcolm X wannabe.
(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/herman-and-gloria-cain1-e1320684075728.jpg?w=402)
33333366,
Is this REALLY what you want to vote for?
Once again, here you are whining about black men and white women, yet you're kneepadding the direct result of the very thing you supposedly despise.
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Of course I prefer Cain to obama.