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Gh I need your help..
I understand your a busy man but some of your advice here would be greatly appreciated..
I have read allot of your posts and understand that dosages ultimatly will dictate the end result. I started taking hormones on / off in moderate doses from a young age and had good success with size but never really getting very lean as I hold allot of bloat naturally. I had over 3yrs completely off gear and training and started back last year with a few short light oral cycles over the last 12 months and built up some good foundation considering the doses and time. I intend to get on the Tren Ace but as I am new to it I want to start low with it as I grow well to low doses of just about anything I have tried and build it up.
Im soon to start running a cycle of Test Prop, Masteron & Tren Ace, I will be taking 50mg of each EOD to start and increasing the dosages and when required. The idea is to give this a decent run of around 15 weeks however I do not want to be taking AAS year round as Im concerned with my health (cardio, test and organs mainly)in my later years. I would like to come off for around 10 weeks completely.
What I want to know is you opinion of my on / off time, what I should be taking and for how when I come off (I know you do not rate PCT) and if there is anything in the 10 weeks off I can take/do to help me preserve as much of my "look" as possible that does not involve AAS until the next cycle?
Thanks allot
Neil
no friend,, nothing can be done when you off trenbolona,, you lose a lot of lean muscle,, seperation and positive thickness ,, you just lose it ,, how can you expect to hold to anything that is caused by the strongest drug known to human? trenbolona is very strong drug ,, it thickne you up very fast and harden you up very fast and also reduce bodyfat on you quite fast especialy if primed with gh or go along with gh ,, you just cant keep the gains when off,, they decrease by the day ,, for a week or 2 you may be in illusion that you keep it but after 3-4 week ....if not go on again you are starting to be miniature version fo your former self ...only problem is this miniature version is not keeping the same ration of bodyfat to muscle mass.. one is decreased aka muscle mass and the other is increased slowly into the 12% where most bodybuild body like to sit aka bodyfat
nto much you can do ,, i would recomend higher doses or every day intake ot tri blend that you about to do ,, 50mg of tren 3 time a week is a little to low,, try to do 100mg every second day you will see much more
there is one thing you can do when off tri blend and it is kick gh into hard drive ,, that will give you muscle fibers development and will keep you lean and body will be primed ffor second run with tri blend btu it should be short break not 3 month break of trenbolona and testosterona,, if you truly go off trenbolona and testosterona for 3-4 months you will look nothing like your former self,, you may still look big and best in your gymnasium but! you will look NOTHING like your former self
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The thing with using tren ace is that once you've begun using it...you've gotta' keep taking it contiuously. I can live with that.
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i know you are a big Tren and GH fan but can gains be made on 1,000mg. of test enanthate a week and nothing else? im doing this now and have never been bigger or stronger, not looking to compete but can really only afford a bottle of test every 3 weeks.
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you answered your own question. ill help you, yes is the answer
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i know you are a big Tren and GH fan but can gains be made on 1,000mg. of test enanthate a week and nothing else? im doing this now and have never been bigger or stronger, not looking to compete but can really only afford a bottle of test every 3 weeks.
Yes,especially if it`s your first cycle.
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You're on steroids. They're working. Hope this helps.
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Yes,especially if it`s your first cycle.
lol, nahh not my first cycle but reading this stuff has me wondering. :D
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lol, nahh not my first cycle but reading this stuff has me wondering. :D
Well you could always buy 10,000 kits of GH. :)
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lol, nahh not my first cycle but reading this stuff has me wondering. :D
some gurus say it would be better to combine test (at a lower dose) with another steroid instead of just doing 1000mg test. but what the fuck do I know, I don't inject myself.
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Well you could always buy 10,000 kits of GH. :)
hahahahaa, buddy if i could afford it i would. ;D
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I tend to agree with this. Test low/moderate dose, combined with dbol and anadrol. Old school method to build an old school physique. :)
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I tend to agree with this. Test low/moderate dose, combined with dbol and anadrol. Old school method to build an old school physique. :)
i always throw in some 50mg. dbol when i can afford it but this poor mofo can only run test at the moment.
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hahahahaa, buddy if i could afford it i would. ;D
You can afford it, stop running a gram a week...
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The thing with using tren ace is that once you've begun using it...you've gotta' keep taking it contiuously. I can live with that.
I wanna do this but I still can't see how it won't kill you after a while. I guess lower the dose to "re-assess" and then blast it again?
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I take exactly what GH just said is a little "too low" 50 mgs three times a week..and i'm 232 pounds today..and shredded .
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I take exactly what GH just said is a little "too low" 50 mgs three times a week day..and i'm 232 pounds today..and shredded .
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I take exactly what GH just said is a little "too low" 50 mgs three times a week..and i'm 232 pounds today..and shredded .
all drugs
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Says a guy who has never done a shot of tren in his life ;)
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I take exactly what GH just said is a little "too low" 50 mgs threesix times a weekday..and i'm 232 pounds today..and shredded .
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You can afford it, stop running a gram a week...
hahaha, not for what theyre charging for kits aroung here.
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i know you are a big Tren and GH fan but can gains be made on 1,000mg. of test enanthate a week and nothing else? im doing this now and have never been bigger or stronger, not looking to compete but can really only afford a bottle of test every 3 weeks.
just ask -god of homos (gh) for a list and he will generously provide the information you need free of charge.
hope this helps
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the gains from steroids by themselves is what leave one a gymrat till the cows come home,, i keep repeating this,, if you are in yout 20s...yes you may get somewhere but also in today coimpetetive bodybuild not a chance with out gh,, you wil stil be able to progress at 27 with only anabolic steroids ofcourse,,
but! you rarely her about fellas who use 1 gram of testosterona unless gh is runing through their blood,, its just a dose that will get you no where with out gh ,, it is pure waste and pure bloofiness...again unless you are 21 and your natural gh is sky high at max of 2-3 iu a day ,,if you are 31 and you use 1 gram with no hgh ....you are blowing your peeing against the wind
HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES,, and most of you use balonie human growth hormones....but legit human growth hormone like kigtropin WILL MAKE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA ABOTU NOTHING THAT LIFT FOR FUN AND TALK TO CHIKITITOS ...will make him into a freak of muscles tight and shrink wrapped into his own skin ,, which huge delts and large surface of pecs and seperated everything,,everythign wil be there thick and lean at the same time giving the outmost 3 dimentional illusion out of thie world,, the illusion which wil be quite real because it can be touched....it is still illusion because moment you get it out of blood it is gone poof like philsulina career....
but rest assure ,, the ONLY reason a bodybuild can look impressive and get anywhee is LEGIT GH,, and tonight is a special night all over tthe world for ! i am upgrading kigtropin to be THE BEST GROWTH HORMONE TO EVER BEEN PRODUCED ON PLANET EEARTH ,, E V E R
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i know you are a big Tren and GH fan but can gains be made on 1,000mg. of test enanthate a week and nothing else? im doing this now and have never been bigger or stronger, not looking to compete but can really only afford a bottle of test every 3 weeks.
i am just curious man how do u look ? Swollen as a baloon or nice lean look? ;)
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the gains from steroids by themselves is what leave one a gymrat till the cows come home,, i keep repeating this,, if you are in yout 20s...yes you may get somewhere but also in today coimpetetive bodybuild not a chance with out gh,, you wil stil be able to progress at 27 with only anabolic steroids ofcourse,,
but! you rarely her about fellas who use 1 gram of testosterona unless gh is runing through their blood,, its just a dose that will get you no where with out gh ,, it is pure waste and pure bloofiness...again unless you are 21 and your natural gh is sky high at max of 2-3 iu a day ,,if you are 31 and you use 1 gram with no hgh ....you are blowing your peeing against the wind
HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES,, and most of you use balonie human growth hormones....but legit human growth hormone like kigtropin WILL MAKE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA ABOTU NOTHING THAT LIFT FOR FUN AND TALK TO CHIKITITOS ...will make him into a freak of muscles tight and shrink wrapped into his own skin ,, which huge delts and large surface of pecs and seperated everything,,everythign wil be there thick and lean at the same time giving the outmost 3 dimentional illusion out of thie world,, the illusion which wil be quite real because it can be touched....it is still illusion because moment you get it out of blood it is gone poof like philsulina career....
but rest assure ,, the ONLY reason a bodybuild can look impressive and get anywhee is LEGIT GH,, and tonight is a special night all over tthe world for ! i am upgrading kigtropin to be THE BEST GROWTH HORMONE TO EVER BEEN PRODUCED ON PLANET EEARTH ,, E V E R
gh15 approved
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by the way feiends,, it take you YEARS of failures to understand it is all in the gh .....you will still do the mistake we true bopdybuilders did along the years because some of you just dont listen ,, most of you are good kidos but some of you just want to do their own thing and it is understood and im all for it ,, but! read the bible I SAVE YOU SO MUCH TIME THAT YOU SHOUD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!
at the end of the day everyone knows its all about the gh ,, its legitimacy ,, and its purity,, this is what bodybuild is
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i am just curious man how do u look ? Swollen as a baloon or nice lean look? ;)
big and swollen.
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swollen monkey productions
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summary is! i shoudl be accepted into heaven with golden horses carrying my soul and with god himself welcoming me the word god approved job well done gh15
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the gains from steroids by themselves is what leave one a gymrat till the cows come home,, i keep repeating this,, if you are in yout 20s...yes you may get somewhere but also in today coimpetetive bodybuild not a chance with out gh,, you wil stil be able to progress at 27 with only anabolic steroids ofcourse,,
but! you rarely her about fellas who use 1 gram of testosterona unless gh is runing through their blood,, its just a dose that will get you no where with out gh ,, it is pure waste and pure bloofiness...again unless you are 21 and your natural gh is sky high at max of 2-3 iu a day ,,if you are 31 and you use 1 gram with no hgh ....you are blowing your peeing against the wind
HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES,, and most of you use balonie human growth hormones....but legit human growth hormone like kigtropin WILL MAKE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA ABOTU NOTHING THAT LIFT FOR FUN AND TALK TO CHIKITITOS ...will make him into a freak of muscles tight and shrink wrapped into his own skin ,, which huge delts and large surface of pecs and seperated everything,,everythign wil be there thick and lean at the same time giving the outmost 3 dimentional illusion out of thie world,, the illusion which wil be quite real because it can be touched....it is still illusion because moment you get it out of blood it is gone poof like philsulina career....
but rest assure ,, the ONLY reason a bodybuild can look impressive and get anywhee is LEGIT GH,, and tonight is a special night all over tthe world for ! i am upgrading kigtropin to be THE BEST GROWTH HORMONE TO EVER BEEN PRODUCED ON PLANET EEARTH ,, E V E R
gh15 approved
thanks man, i guess i already knew the answer to my question, just seeking the God of Hormones advice.
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hey god of homos LIST ME with your kingtropin special price!
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summary is! i shoudl be accepted into heaven with golden horses carrying my soul and with god himself welcoming me the word god approved job well done gh15
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tbombz I remember reading something that tren, unlike testosterone actually slows down protein synthesis but decreases protein breakdown. Hence testosterone is superior for growth, making tren the ultimate anticatabolic. But lots of guys say that they gain more size from tren. (size not weight)
If one were to use tren as the only anabolic without test for example, Would they stop gaining from lack of estrogen at some point?
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tbombz I remember reading something that tren, unlike testosterone actually slows down protein synthesis but decreases protein breakdown. Hence testosterone is superior for growth, making tren the ultimate anticatabolic. But lots of guys say that they gain more size from tren. (size not weight)
If one were to use tren as the only anabolic without test for example, Would they stop gaining from lack of estrogen at some point?
for bodybuilding, tren > test.. no matter what purpouse, no matter what duration of time
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tbombz I remember reading something that tren, unlike testosterone actually slows down protein synthesis but decreases protein breakdown. Hence testosterone is superior for growth, making tren the ultimate anticatabolic. But lots of guys say that they gain more size from tren. (size not weight)
If one were to use tren as the only anabolic without test for example, Would they stop gaining from lack of estrogen at some point?
I don't gain much size from it...it's weird but all i want to do is eat carbs..I hardly eat any protein at all, like i've completely lost my appetite for it. and all i do is get leaner and leaner, and stay the same size,,,ive been 230 give or take a couple for four months now, but my BF keeps going down.
maybe if i took more I would be bigger, but I'm a low dose kind of guy.I don't want any health issues, and so far so good
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thanks tbombz.
where do you see yourself going from here Groink?
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I don't gain much size from it...it's weird but all i want to do is eat carbs..I hardly eat any protein at all, like i've completely lost my appetite for it. and all i do is get leaner and leaner, and stay the same size,,,ive been 230 give or take a couple for four months now, but my BF keeps going down.
maybe if i took more I would be bigger, but I'm a low dose kind of guy.I don't want any health issues, and so far so good
if weight stays the same and you are getting leaner then you have obviously gained muscle. your body is undergoing a recomposition.
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I recall a few dudes here thought that they "destroyed" the gh15 gimmick. Now the getbig bromance is back and its business as usual.
I told you that unless the nut job was fully revealed, he will go on posting here forever.
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anyone who thought gh15 would be 'destroyed' is an idiot. there are too many sheep in this world and the person behind the gh15 account has become one with the gh15 character. the sickness runs deep.
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I don't gain much size from it...it's weird but all i want to do is eat carbs..I hardly eat any protein at all, like i've completely lost my appetite for it. and all i do is get leaner and leaner, and stay the same size,,,ive been 230 give or take a couple for four months now, but my BF keeps going down.
maybe if i took more I would be bigger, but I'm a low dose kind of guy.I don't want any health issues, and so far so good
That's because tren acts almost as a pure androgen in your case. Tren is an excellent androgen and can be a good anabolic but it depends on the person's physiology.
Also, there are indications that the longer you use it the more pronounced androgenic effects become with the concomitant decrease in anabolic properties.
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That's because tren acts almost as a pure androgen in your case. Tren is an excellent androgen and can be a good anabolic but it depends on the person's physiology.
Also, there are indications that the longer you use it the more pronounced androgenic effects become with the concomitant decrease in anabolic properties.
Digsuted said the same thing, that tren stops working past a certain point.
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Digsuted said the same thing, that tren stops working past a certain point.
true with every steroid. which is why its better to use one compound at a time. when the platue arrives, take a small break, switch compounds, and back to blast off.
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true with every steroid. which is why its better to use one compound at a time. when the platue arrives, take a small break, switch compounds, and back to blast off.
True, I guess you can get yourself into trouble by using too much shit at once. You will never know what the fuck is working
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i know you are a big Tren and GH fan but can gains be made on 1,000mg. of test enanthate a week and nothing else? im doing this now and have never been bigger or stronger, not looking to compete but can really only afford a bottle of test every 3 weeks.
yes I think what gh15 means when you wont be nothing hes talking from a competitive bodybuilding perspective you can look very big and good to women on test only. I think i tend to feel better when it gets a lil over a gram but you can bench 400 and look very impressive on a gram of test only.
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That's because tren acts almost as a pure androgen in your case. Tren is an excellent androgen and can be a good anabolic but it depends on the person's physiology.
Also, there are indications that the longer you use it the more pronounced androgenic effects become with the concomitant decrease in anabolic properties.
stick around and post more.
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Thanks allot for the advice
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I take exactly what GH just said is a little "too low" 50 mgs three times a week..and i'm 232 pounds today..and shredded .
I respond well to low doses of pretty much everything I have taken so will start low and work it up when the gains slow right down but have no doubt I will get up to beyond 100mg EOD
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no friend,, nothing can be done when you off trenbolona,, you lose a lot of lean muscle,, seperation and positive thickness ,, you just lose it ,, how can you expect to hold to anything that is caused by the strongest drug known to human? trenbolona is very strong drug ,, it thickne you up very fast and harden you up very fast and also reduce bodyfat on you quite fast especialy if primed with gh or go along with gh ,, you just cant keep the gains when off,, they decrease by the day ,, for a week or 2 you may be in illusion that you keep it but after 3-4 week ....if not go on again you are starting to be miniature version fo your former self ...only problem is this miniature version is not keeping the same ration of bodyfat to muscle mass.. one is decreased aka muscle mass and the other is increased slowly into the 12% where most bodybuild body like to sit aka bodyfat
nto much you can do ,, i would recomend higher doses or every day intake ot tri blend that you about to do ,, 50mg of tren 3 time a week is a little to low,, try to do 100mg every second day you will see much more
there is one thing you can do when off tri blend and it is kick gh into hard drive ,, that will give you muscle fibers development and will keep you lean and body will be primed ffor second run with tri blend btu it should be short break not 3 month break of trenbolona and testosterona,, if you truly go off trenbolona and testosterona for 3-4 months you will look nothing like your former self,, you may still look big and best in your gymnasium but! you will look NOTHING like your former self
gh15 approved
Thanks for that, appreciate it
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I respond well to low doses of pretty much everything I have taken so will start low and work it up when the gains slow right down but have no doubt I will get up to beyond 100mg EOD
that's a lot of fucking tren dude...you don't need much, the shit is POTENT
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100 mg EOD isn't that much imo. I'm using 150 mg EOD and I notice very few of the sides. I'm a bit more aggressive than usual, that's about it. I know my shit is top-notch too because I got it from Nordic.
However, the changes to my physique and strength have been phenomenal!
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100 mg EOD isn't that much imo. I'm using 150 mg EOD and I notice very few of the sides. I'm a bit more aggressive than usual, that's about it. I know my shit is top-notch too because I got it from Nordic.
However, the changes to my physique and strength have been phenomenal!
Thats why Im starting low Groink, just not ruling out higher doses..
What I mean, I going to start low and only when more is required as the gains/improvements slow right down then increase it slightly. If at 10 weeks low doses are still working fine then I will stick to that. Im going to see how I go with it and keep an open mind to sides etc and deal with them if any as I come across then, I done tren ethanate in the past and had no problems with it and made again good gains from low doses. I achieve size easily and got cut, I just never managed to get my skin like paper and have the magazine ripped look so after reading allot of what GH said, it makes allot of sense and im taking what he says on board and giving it a go.
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i always throw in some 50mg. dbol when i can afford it but this poor mofo can only run test at the moment.
If you cant't afford it don't use it save up your money especially if you do not compete
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that's a lot of fucking tren dude...you don't need much, the shit is POTENT
lol, I've been shooting 75-100mg a day for the last six weeks or so, at a current mighty bodyweight of 75kg. Six weeks ago I was 70kg, and I'm (even!) leaner now. I still sweat a lot at night if I've eaten even more crap than usual that day, but it's no big deal. Diet consists of anything not nailed down. Training is 4 x 30min sessions a week, real basic stuff.
Switched to tren e from acetate two weeks ago to cut down on cost and number of injections, haven't noticed any real difference between them.