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Title: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: vic86 on November 21, 2011, 10:42:40 AM
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986
Post by: vic86 on November 21, 2011, 10:44:24 AM


Its been 25 years since this bout and Mike Tyson made history by winning the heavyweight championship at the age of 20. 8)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986
Post by: The_Hammer on November 21, 2011, 10:45:22 AM
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Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: bradistani on November 21, 2011, 12:11:58 PM
25 years? where does the time go ?  :'(
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Overload on November 21, 2011, 03:25:30 PM
Trevor tried his best but Mike's relentless attacked destroyed him.

Always a good fight to watch for some quality punching power demonstration.


8)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2011, 03:29:08 PM
25 years? where does the time go ?  :'(

You're telling me , I remember watching this live , I was just 16
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 03:36:39 PM
He fucking rocked his planets!
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 03:37:58 PM
You're telling me , I remember watching this live , I was just 16
Don`t feel bad,I was 31 .  :(
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: liberty on November 21, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
Wes remember this one?
My fave stare down as well !
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: steveTren on November 21, 2011, 03:43:46 PM
what is he on in this fight against mcneley ? halo ?
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 03:44:48 PM
Wes remember this one?
My fave stare down as well !

SLAUGHTER OF THE LAMB!! :(
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: liberty on November 21, 2011, 03:45:56 PM
Prison food   ;D
5 11     220   :o
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 21, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
mike tyson is fun to watch, but in bodybuilding terms you can call him all drugs, without drugs most likely he could never be a prime boxer, heavyweight class is out of the question, he is a small guy in reality. the modern boxing stance, the importance on punching power, the lack of defensive skills, these are all things brought about by the inclusion of drugs in boxing. it used to be a sport about not getting hit rather than hitting as hard as you can
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 03:52:36 PM
Mills Lane was da` man.  :)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Hulkotron on November 21, 2011, 03:53:34 PM
Mills Lane was da` man.  :)

x2 not a man to be fucked with.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 03:54:13 PM
x2 not a man to be fucked with.
Stupid question,but is he still alive?
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Hulkotron on November 21, 2011, 03:56:36 PM
Stupid question,but is he still alive?

Yes I think so.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 03:58:04 PM
Yes I think so.
Cool............worked a veritable ton of great/historic fights
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: danabol on November 21, 2011, 04:15:28 PM
Prison food   ;D
5 11     220   :o


HAHA lol tellin me  ;D
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 21, 2011, 04:52:09 PM
Don`t feel bad,I was 31 .  :(

Shit , so you remember all the really good middleweight fights from the 70s and early 80s , The Hitman , Sugar Ray , Hands of Stone , Marvelous Marvin  , Mancini 
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: vic86 on November 22, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
Trevor tried his best but Mike's relentless attacked destroyed him.

Always a good fight to watch for some quality punching power demonstration.


8)
True :)
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Fortress on November 22, 2011, 11:00:23 AM
Ya just know those uppercuts from Tyson feel like a sledgehammer. Brutal.

Say whatever you want about Mike, one way or the other, but there's no denying the dude was one BAD guy with his fists. 
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: the Algebra Wizard on November 23, 2011, 01:39:02 PM
Greatest upper cup off all time .
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: The Grim Lifter on November 23, 2011, 03:48:06 PM
Wes remember this one?
My fave stare down as well !


Best condition i've ever seen Tyson in, pretty much as ripped as Tyson could get without being too depleted
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 04:18:28 PM
Shit , so you remember all the really good middleweight fights from the 70s and early 80s , The Hitman , Sugar Ray , Hands of Stone , Marvelous Marvin  , Mancini 
I sure do.......awesome time for boxing.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: dr.chimps on November 23, 2011, 04:22:25 PM
I sure do.......awesome time for boxing.
Watched all the Ali/Frazier/Foreman fights early '70's fights with my Da and all his lads. Class! 
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: wes on November 23, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Watched all the Ali/Frazier/Foreman fights early '70's fights with my Da and all his lads. Class!  
Yup,saw them all too.

I was a huge boxing fan,but hardly watch it anymore.

Other greats from back then:

Alexis Arguello
Saiid Muhammed
Bob Foster
Vito Antoufermo (insane fights with Hagler)
Jorge` Paez
Michael Carbajal ("Little Hands Of Stone")
Vinny Paz
Hector Camacho

I`ve seen some good ones.....only wish I was at them in person.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Action Bronson on November 23, 2011, 04:57:05 PM
mike tyson is fun to watch, but in bodybuilding terms you can call him all drugs, without drugs most likely he could never be a prime boxer, heavyweight class is out of the question, he is a small guy in reality. the modern boxing stance, the importance on punching power, the lack of defensive skills, these are all things brought about by the inclusion of drugs in boxing. it used to be a sport about not getting hit rather than hitting as hard as you can

Fu*k off he was a solid 180lbs before he started training. There's a picture of him as a child on a school bus and he dwarfs the other kids. Plenty of powerlifters and strongmen with all the power in the world it doesn't mean they know how to throw a punch. Watch the old footage of his training,  they made him a machine. Even in an interview on 60 minutes in prison he was solid. You retards really think all these guys in the can are on gear? Fu*king idiots. He had great defense head movement and speed. Fu*ck outta here with that shit. You clearly know nothing about him.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 23, 2011, 05:01:25 PM
they get heroin and weed and everything else into prison, in fact they try very hard to get them into prison because in prison it sells for 5x as much as the street, but they can't get steroids into prison? even though they make u bigger tougher and more aggressive?

tyson was a small guy naturally, look at his neck, look at his shoulders, this is what steroids do to a body

tyson's style isn't really possible without drugs... the bones are not strong enough, tendons not thick enough, muscles don't squeeze fast enough

same thing with his opponent in his first fight out of jail, his aggression was all drugs, you that is also a consequence of steroids. people simply didnt fight like this an didnt look like this 60 years ago for a reason
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Action Bronson on November 23, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
they get heroin and weed and everything else into prison, in fact they try very hard to get them into prison because in prison it sells for 5x as much as the street, but they can't get steroids into prison? even though they make u bigger tougher and more aggressive?

tyson was a small guy naturally, look at his neck, look at his shoulders, this is what steroids do to a body

tyson's style isn't really possible without drugs... the bones are not strong enough, tendons not thick enough, muscles don't squeeze fast enough

same thing with his opponent in his first fight out of jail, his aggression was all drugs, you that is also a consequence of steroids. people simply didnt fight like this an didnt look like this 60 years ago for a reason

That's because the majority of people locked up were junkies to begin with you moron. Don't talk like you know what goes on behind the walls , you don't know shit. Go ask any correctional officer in any prison about steroids and how much is attempted to smuggle in or confiscated. I know im not the only one here who's done state or fed time.  Steroids are a non-issue in the system. Bottom line...its prison, people wanna get high.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 23, 2011, 05:14:07 PM
on the one hand you say that so many steroids are confiscated on the other you say they are a non issue

get your story straight

so many are found because so many are brought in to be found, tyson was a steroid junkie, he found them and they found him in prison
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Action Bronson on November 23, 2011, 05:22:05 PM
on the one hand you say that so many steroids are confiscated on the other you say they are a non issue

get your story straight

so many are found because so many are brought in to be found, tyson was a steroid junkie, he found them and they found him in prison

I thought I made my point clear...ask anyone who works in a state or fed facility. Steroids are a non-issue. Btw dear, someone who's a fighter doesn't need aggression from steroids they already are violent and aggressive they fu*king fight for a living that should tell you something. Oh and prisons are full of murdering psychos and violent predators they don't need steroids to make them more aggressive either.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 23, 2011, 05:45:55 PM
listen to you talking, calling me dear lol, you said that many steroids are confiscated, then you said that steroids are not an issue

yeah, you made it clear, you made it clear that your brain sucks at working well

you don't have to be a violent person to be a boxer, I had at one time wanted to be a kickboxer, it's not about violence or being a psycho or whatever, but boxers didnt fight like fucking robots in cartoons before the age of steroids, they simply didn't
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Darren Avey on November 24, 2011, 02:00:04 AM
I cant speak for the US prison system but here in the UK inside steroids are easier to get than on the outside!
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: johnny1 on November 24, 2011, 02:45:43 AM
they get heroin and weed and everything else into prison, in fact they try very hard to get them into prison because in prison it sells for 5x as much as the street, but they can't get steroids into prison? even though they make u bigger tougher and more aggressive?

tyson was a small guy naturally, look at his neck, look at his shoulders, this is what steroids do to a body

tyson's style isn't really possible without drugs... the bones are not strong enough, tendons not thick enough, muscles don't squeeze fast enough

same thing with his opponent in his first fight out of jail, his aggression was all drugs, you that is also a consequence of steroids. people simply didnt fight like this an didnt look like this 60 years ago for a reason
Not true bud, take a look @ Tyson as a 13 YEAR OLD in the old clips doing speed drills in the Ring with Teddy atlas then with Kevin...his Neck and thickset physique was already Evident....AT 13....surely your not suggesting he was on the gear as a 13yr old? take another look @ his Reflex's, hand-speed, foot-speed, timing and power as that 13 year old were ALREADY EXTRA-ORDINARY at that age.....Bottom line IMO its Conceivable Mike MAY HAVE taken Steroids (1995-97 vintage when imo he started getting that "Ripped" look to his Physique see McNeely fight etc) in his Career....Thats possible, however if you really think the "Gear" was the factor that made Tyson the fighter he was in his Prime and Before......... :o :o :o :o......well everyone's entitled to their opinion i guess....
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 24, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
This discussion is plain retarded. Action B., as well as the poster above me, know what the fuck they're talkin' about. Mike was a GENETIC MARVEL. Drugs ... and I repeat ... did not turn Mike into the fighter he became. He was bred for boxing. Plain and simple. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 24, 2011, 01:02:36 PM
why do u scoff at the idea that tyson did steroids at 13, in high school I saw kids giving each other steroids, they were bball players, drugs to kids in the ghetto is nothing, they're all doign weed at 10 yo cocaine and 12-13, u think anadrol is gonna freak them out?
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Salvatore Martinez on November 24, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
This discussion is plain retarded. Action B., as well as the poster above me, know what the fuck they're talkin' about. Mike was a GENETIC MARVEL. Drugs ... and I repeat ... did not turn Mike into the fighter he became. He was bred for boxing. Plain and simple. Hope this helps.



i agree, whether or not he "dabbled" we'll never know but NO ONE can deny the guys genetics, the guy had the handspeed and head movement of a middleweight at 225 pounds, plus knockout power with either hand.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Lumberjack88 on November 24, 2011, 09:13:15 PM
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Nomad on November 24, 2011, 09:54:01 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=402968.0;attach=442701;image)


Are you guys blind? This pic already screams juice usage...find me a natty boxer @ 20 years old who looked anywhere like that before the steroids era (70s and on) lol you won't.


Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Darren Avey on November 25, 2011, 12:39:13 AM
Wonder how all you cage warriors would have done against this guy
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: local hero on November 25, 2011, 08:09:45 AM
why do u scoff at the idea that tyson did steroids at 13, in high school I saw kids giving each other steroids, they were bball players, drugs to kids in the ghetto is nothing, they're all doign weed at 10 yo cocaine and 12-13, u think anadrol is gonna freak them out?


your a moron............. you must be a gimmick to come out with this shit

mike was a huge kid, hands like shovels , size 14 shoes, ...... at under 6ft,,,,i suppose he used ghoner to get his feet, hands etc so big

he had that big neck, untrained.....later he had the chest,bi's n delts as a 14yr old with some boxing training and a bit weights

he was a fucking animal, pure fighting genes

Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: local hero on November 25, 2011, 08:16:28 AM
as for spending money on steroids, he was stealing to feed and clothe him self... he hadnt trained a day in his life before he went to bad kids prison
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Swede! on November 25, 2011, 08:18:29 AM
Fight looks fixed? the other guy just walks straight forward and doesn't do anything.. no jabs no nothing King probably paid him. Didnt everyone already knew you cant stand still with tyson?
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 25, 2011, 08:20:09 AM
Local Hero. Another man who knows what he's talkin' about. Good posts. :-)


To answer your question, Dar. Av., none of us would of lasted 3 sec. in the ring with Mike. Not yesterday and not today. Fact.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 25, 2011, 08:33:28 AM
if you guys dont look at tyson and see DRUGS, if you guys see his agression and dont see DRUGS, i don't know what to tell you, wtf hav u been reading on this forum
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: local hero on November 25, 2011, 08:57:25 AM
if you guys dont look at tyson and see DRUGS, if you guys see his agression and dont see DRUGS, i don't know what to tell you, wtf hav u been reading on this forum

i see a very emotionally unstable young man, with a very bad upbringing with alot of issues.... plenty of them walking the streets right now, they must all scream drugs too
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 25, 2011, 09:07:22 AM
lol, why u telling me his fucking shoe size, u obviously love tyson, i liek tyson too but not enough to blind me
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: local hero on November 25, 2011, 09:25:05 AM
lol, why u telling me his fucking shoe size, u obviously love tyson, i liek tyson too but not enough to blind me


you are blind tho, if you cant see he was a freak from a young age, he was almost fully grown at 13
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 25, 2011, 09:26:19 AM

you are blind tho, if you cant see he was a freak from a young age, he was almost fully grown at 13


aas closes growth plates dummy
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: local hero on November 25, 2011, 09:33:19 AM
aas closes growth plates dummy

your ass closes round cock homo


people grow at different rates, if u dont know this u truly are  stooopid
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 25, 2011, 09:39:52 AM
You're a good poster, Apply, but your out of your league on this one. Sorry, but that's just the plain truth. Most of us here are boxing fanatics and remember Tyson when he was just a damn kid. Again ... GENETIC MARVEL. Tyson was bred for boxing. Drugs did not make the man. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 25, 2011, 09:53:51 AM
I would have dodged Tyson's weak upper cuts and punched him in the torso so hard he'd fly to the ground and then I'd stomp on his testicles so he could feel the pain I feel waking up every day.
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: Fortress on November 25, 2011, 12:01:30 PM
First, Tyson has loads of inherent talent, but to suggest his people didn't have him using certain compounds at various stages of his career is plain lunacy.

I'd suggest most of Mike's aggression initially came from his being, as has been said, an emotionally troubled young man with serious issues. Add in the drugs we all KNOW run rampant in boxing, and there ya go.

Check out the man's demeanor now, as well. He is either on boatloads of meds to keep him "stable" and "controlled" (certainly he is on depression meds, etc.) or his years of using androgen-type drugs has left him somewhat docile due to their suppression of his natural physiology (plus age, of course). 

Again, make no mistake, Tyson was a bonafide beast, but to deny realities of that world is folly.

Big money is king and whatever is required to maintain the big money is a given. 

 
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: apply85 on November 25, 2011, 12:07:42 PM
^^^^ eloquently put
Title: Re: Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick - Nov 22 1986 -25th Anniversary
Post by: _bruce_ on November 25, 2011, 02:10:12 PM
Tyson weighed 80kg at age 12 already.
He was a specimen - Cus would never have told a nobody that he could be HW champion... I'm pretty sure he came in his undies when he realized Mike's potential and spend all his remaining life energy on making him what nature destined him to be.
Take a heavy bag, all steroids you can get and train religiously for years... the chance that you will have Mike's speed, precision and power is unlikely.