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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: L.L on November 21, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
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gh15,
Of course there is no substitute for trenbolona but if u had to choose other compound in place of trenbolona during the mutation stages to go along 15-20 ius of HGH daily ,which one would that be?? which one would be the best 2nd choice?? Equipona? masterona?? diabolona??
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test, nandro, d-bol, andro, even primo, it doesn't matter as long as you run enough. none of them will keep you as dry and lean as tren except for maybe the primo
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superdrol I dont like it but its prolly the closet to what you speak as far as result if you had powder and made superdrol inject to save the liver that would be your best prolly even surpassing tren.
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Low testosterona for thickness and to keep your head straight, however much masteron you like (a little goes a long way), equipina as your primary anabolic agent. And you can cycle in some orals like Superdrol. But that shit is quite toxic and I don't recommend a ton. Anadrolona is a pretty good oral and it's a lot easier on the stomach. I tolerate it and like it a lot at least.
If you're forgoing trenbologna you're realllllly missing out. I too thought I couldn't handle the tren sides much but I've learned to tolerate it. Pin it consistently every other day and that makes a big difference. Masteron goes great with it and equipina too. It'll give you thickness as well as roundness with sharp, deep cuts that nothing else will give (other than GHona).
If you're not running trenbologna, definitely run GHona. Blast it and run it in high doses or run it longer so you don't get fat and just pound back the food. I love trenbologna so much though. It's a fucking amazing compound. It makes my head really loopy and I get suicidal at anything over 100mg EO but it's worth it lol... I know that's a twink dose but a little can transform you. You see daily changes at a good dose of GOOD trenbologna. 8)
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If you're forgoing trenbologna you're realllllly missing out. I too thought I couldn't handle the tren sides much but I've learned to tolerate it. Pin it consistently every other day and that makes a big difference. Masteron goes great with it and equipina too. It'll give you thickness as well as roundness with sharp, deep cuts that nothing else will give (other than GHona).
high dose primo will, so will var. both way too expensive to use comparably to tren but they will give you a crisp full look with deep cuts.
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Love Tren. Hate " Tren Dick " though. :{ :{
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NPP
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I thought gh15 said trenbolona ACE is not necessarily a must ???
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Love Tren. Hate " Tren Dick " though. :{ :{
tadalafil
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superdrol I dont like it but its prolly the closet to what you speak as far as result if you had powder and made superdrol inject to save the liver that would be you best prolly even surpassing tren.
whole heartedly agree. nothing gave me faster results than this. But nothing also fucked up my bloodwork or gave me the most torturous, horrific, back pumps as much as superdrol either
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tadalafil
Buyin' some this week, brother. ;-)
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theres no bodybuilder without trenbolona
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See, i can handle tren fine at around 400mgs...once i go over 500 my dick goes on a strike..i cant afford that shit ,,my dick needs to be on demand..yes, ive tried cabaser, prami you name it...fuck progestins ..ive gotten in top shape without tren , mostly on prop , gh ,masteron ,winny , t3 and clen...i know tren is the shit but i live in the Pussy capital of the world, South beach, Miami, Florida and i CANNOT go to war with a fucking semi....fuck no..GHona is gonna be around 15-20 ius daily..ansd i maybe up EQ or Primo or maybe even masteron up to 1g in place of tren.
Im in my early 30's so deca n tren will never see my ass ever again....when i was younger i could get away with those without even doing PCT...different game nowdays
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test, nandro, d-bol, andro, even primo, it doesn't matter as long as you run enough. none of them will keep you as dry and lean as tren except for maybe the primo
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they all work if you take enough
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they all work if you take enough
what do you feel is the limit as far as gains ?
2g ?
pretty much everybody seems to stop there and just up the gh/peptides afterward
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the fuck up thing is really hard to find legit Primo nowdays
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the fuck up thing is really hard to find legit Primo nowdays
x2 , I shot some liquatech lately because I had some laying around but didn't notice much
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what do you feel is the limit as far as gains ?
2g ?
pretty much everybody seems to stop there and just up the gh/peptides afterward
2 grams in total as far as AAS is concerned???? You can go wwwwaaayyy past that. Not so if you don't have enough hgh, but if the hgh is going higher, so can the AAS.
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gh15 said tren is not a good bulking drug, and will actually slow your gains down :o
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what do you feel is the limit as far as gains ?
2g ?
pretty much everybody seems to stop there and just up the gh/peptides afterward
lol, 2 grams? that's cruising dose for pros, man. limit is probably well over 6grams, somewhere in that area. tren will make you hit the limit a lot faster, think of it like concentrated orange juice (the tren) versus liquid orange juice from a carton (test/nandro)
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gh15 said tren is not a good bulking drug, and will actually slow your gains down :o
that's wrong, very wrong. tren is amazing, you will build muscle on it if you just eat a snickers bar a day. it's magical.
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Love Tren. Hate " Tren Dick " though. :{ :{
Beta's such as yourself should have no problem with "tren dick". You need a woman for that to be a problem.
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Low testosterona for thickness and to keep your head straight, however much masteron you like (a little goes a long way), equipina as your primary anabolic agent. And you can cycle in some orals like Superdrol. But that shit is quite toxic and I don't recommend a ton. Anadrolona is a pretty good oral and it's a lot easier on the stomach. I tolerate it and like it a lot at least.
If you're forgoing trenbologna you're realllllly missing out. I too thought I couldn't handle the tren sides much but I've learned to tolerate it. Pin it consistently every other day and that makes a big difference. Masteron goes great with it and equipina too. It'll give you thickness as well as roundness with sharp, deep cuts that nothing else will give (other than GHona).
If you're not running trenbologna, definitely run GHona. Blast it and run it in high doses or run it longer so you don't get fat and just pound back the food. I love trenbologna so much though. It's a fucking amazing compound. It makes my head really loopy and I get suicidal at anything over 100mg EO but it's worth it lol... I know that's a twink dose but a little can transform you. You see daily changes at a good dose of GOOD trenbologna. 8)
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good advice right there
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2 grams in total as far as AAS is concerned???? You can go wwwwaaayyy past that. Not so if you don't have enough hgh, but if the hgh is going higher, so can the AAS.
I asked because I have been over 2g a few times and I didn't notice any difference.
but I wasn't on gh so :-X
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NPP
This ^^
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that's wrong, very wrong. tren is amazing, you will build muscle on it if you just eat a snickers bar a day. it's magical.
lol,, you need more than sniker bars lol ,, but yes trenbolona is what you call the invinsibility of humans,, if you can get used to the hit the blood feel of caugh and short breath for 3 min every day and most bodybuild can becuase we are crazy lol if you can get with it ....then its best anabolic drug hands down ,, some dont get the caugh and short breath for 3 min becuase they dont hit blood vessle maybe because they are double digit or they just dotn have many blood vessles in the ass or where ever they inject,, it is individual thing,,
generaly speak you need more than sniker bars lol ,, you need to eat but you can eat pretty much lik enormal human,,if on hgh you can do whatever you can go from girl to girl all night long while eating popsicles and icecream and you will,,,advance as long as enough calories and enough protien
trenbolona is good for both bulking and cutting,, it realy up to what you use with it and what else you use and how much calories you put in
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I asked because I have been over 2g a few times and I didn't notice any difference.
but I wasn't on gh so :-X
yes gh is a must,, legit gh ,, realy when you go on legit gh and do it LEGIT GH! ,, and do it for long enough time and high enough dose even if not high dose you just start understtanding what make fellas like antonino canada ....and fellas like kuklo the kid....and many others...fellas like jeff liar long and etc etc...you start understanding how they become the size they become ,, it is all in the hgh ALL IN THE HGH ,, then you can put in the ass and develop the fibers and thats how you get this ,,i call it an illusion because realy its not substantial unless you work with it for years over years and put lots of money into permanent growth like liar priest did....but in case of antonina and kuklo the kid etc they are not working with it for long enough duration to create permanent changes,, so i call it illusion because they hold on them size...that it indeed size but! it is the bone wraped with tissue that is blown form the inside ,, more fibers that are blown from the inside by aas into new dimention thus creating THE ILLUSION OF NEW SIZE,, whichn is indeed size but it goes as fast as it comes,, it can look marvelous but! you go off gh and you leave trenbolona out for a while and you are shadow of former self within months,,
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gh15,
Of course there is no substitute for trenbolona but if u had to choose other compound in place of trenbolona during the mutation stages to go along 15-20 ius of HGH daily ,which one would that be?? which one would be the best 2nd choice?? Equipona? masterona?? diabolona??
equipona,,if legit....again you need chef who know what he doing,, not every chef know what they doing,, many work with balonie poweders,, the realy bad ones dont know that equipona is nto even powder...so you need top chef,, but if you can get hands on legit equipona wether vet or from top chef it can be replacement not even close to trenbolona but second best,, nandrolona can also be replacement but it being more smooth look yes muscly look yes full ,, yes it blow up tissue from within especialy with hgh but its more of a smooth water look that gives size but if no shirt on it wont be detailed size it will be size bulk size,, npp is better
equipona is my favortie after trenbolona when it come to anabolic prospect,, equipona in high enough dose as in if legit 500-600 mg is the dose or over... but you must have legit equipona dose right and then 600 will be ok ,, if the equipona is hlf way bunk or balonie then you may think you take 600mg and in reslity you take 120 mg which wont do nothing
gh15 approved
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gh you talk about gear so much i always wonder what was the largest dose you ever ran back when you competed?
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anything you can get your hands on you run ,,ofcourse anything that contribute to what you look for,, you wont run bunch testosterona enantato 1 day before show,, you run whatever you can get your hands on that serve your purpose
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hah, yeah, i know i was just curious about what was the highest dosage that you think you've ever taken. my personal best was little over 5 grams, see if you can beat that! 8)
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i did 5-6 grams but lots of hgh,, you really should be able to be peak level of bodybuild with 2-3 gram and lots of hgh and insulina,, well insulina ruined bodybuild but...it is what it is
rememebr! ,, it go by your lean muscle ,, a fella 190lb can nto and should not do 5 gram ,, it justwill send him into lala land not as he die nothing can happen from hormones persay but! it will bloofy him into the 9th dimention and make him slugish fatzo ,, 190 lb lean muscle is not 250 lb lean muscle and 240 lb lean muscle it not 280lb lean muscle
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i did 5-6 grams but lots of hgh,, you really should be able to be peak level of bodybuild with 2-3 gram and lots of hgh and insulina,, well insulina ruined bodybuild but...it is what it is
rememebr! ,, it go by your lean muscle ,, a fella 190lb can nto and should not do 5 gram ,, it justwill send him into lala land not as he die nothing can happen from hormones persay but! it will bloofy him into the 9th dimention and make him slugish fatzo ,, 190 lb lean muscle is not 250 lb lean muscle and 240 lb lean muscle it not 280lb lean muscle
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so if someone 5'10 takes 5-6 g and loads of slin and hgh can they look like Ronnie coleman
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yes, i agree, 5 grams is not necessary but i wanted to see what it would be like. i felt very bad and lethargic, but i put on strength and size from picking up a remote or washing the dishes.
i like 10iu of insulin a day, pre workout. small dosage of insulin is great for fullness and adding some size but i think most bodybuilder use way too much, and too many carbs. looking pregnant at 4% bodyfat is not how the ideal bodybuilder should look!
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so if someone 5'10 takes 5-6 g and loads of slin and hgh can they look like Ronnie coleman
no,, if their respond is as well ,, and their muscule shape is as well ,, then yes,, they can be their own ron colman as in size as in conditioend size but their own style,,
how many ron colman are there? zero...who was same level as ron colman? no one,, you talk here about freak of hormones of the absolit outmostest level,, you know...it also take phenominal respond to hormone...it also take the muscule shape and the frame not only the frame but also the muscle shaape and insertions,, its combo of all ,,
the hormones will get you to lean size...how will that lean size look? up to your muscle shapes,, all i can say is that even fellas like dan hill can make good money from modeling and bodybuild so everyone has hope...becuas if you notice that kido make money now day
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no,, if their respond is as well ,, and their muscule shape is as well ,, then yes,, they can be their own ron colman as in size as in conditioend size but their own style,,
how many ron colman are there? zero...who was same level as ron colman? no one,, you talk here about freak of hormones of the absolit outmostest level,, you know...it also take phenominal respond to hormone...it also take the muscule shape and the frame not only the frame but also the muscle shaape and insertions,, its combo of all ,,
the hormones will get you to lean size...how will that lean size look? up to your muscle shapes,, all i can say is that even fellas like dan hill can make good money from modeling and bodybuild so everyone has hope...becuas if you notice that kido make money now day
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I'm almost maxed out from AAs and a like more the 80-90 looks.....also, i don't compete or doit for money.
how much GH i need
Gh15
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i did 5-6 grams but lots of hgh,, you really should be able to be peak level of bodybuild with 2-3 gram and lots of hgh and insulina,, well insulina ruined bodybuild but...it is what it is
rememebr! ,, it go by your lean muscle ,, a fella 190lb can nto and should not do 5 gram ,, it justwill send him into lala land not as he die nothing can happen from hormones persay but! it will bloofy him into the 9th dimention and make him slugish fatzo ,, 190 lb lean muscle is not 250 lb lean muscle and 240 lb lean muscle it not 280lb lean muscle
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TRUTH!!!
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See, i can handle tren fine at around 400mgs...once i go over 500 my dick goes on a strike..i cant afford that shit ,,my dick needs to be on demand..yes, ive tried cabaser, prami you name it...fuck progestins ..ive gotten in top shape without tren , mostly on prop , gh ,masteron ,winny , t3 and clen...i know tren is the shit but i live in the Pussy capital of the world, South beach, Miami, Florida and i can go to war with a fucking semi....fuck no..GHona is gonna be around 15-20 ius daily..ansd i maybe up EQ or Primo or maybe even masteron up to 1g in place of tren.
Im in my early 30's so deca n tren will never see my ass ever again....when i was younger i could get away with those without even doing PCT...different game nowdays
i'm 33 and the combo tren e/deca let ar least 5/6 girl unsatisfied...
no more tren and deca for me although i was big and lean, perfect pussy pullin body but can't use my dick so no interest.
my libido was ok but nothing happened and in some forum they speak about guy who never recover from tren deca.
i prefer destroying pussy than being better at gym so test dbol eq and clen is enough.
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equipona,,if legit....again you need chef who know what he doing,, not every chef know what they doing,, many work with balonie poweders,, the realy bad ones dont know that equipona is nto even powder...so you need top chef,, but if you can get hands on legit equipona wether vet or from top chef it can be replacement not even close to trenbolona but second best,, nandrolona can also be replacement but it being more smooth look yes muscly look yes full ,, yes it blow up tissue from within especialy with hgh but its more of a smooth water look that gives size but if no shirt on it wont be detailed size it will be size bulk size,, npp is better
equipona is my favortie after trenbolona when it come to anabolic prospect,, equipona in high enough dose as in if legit 500-600 mg is the dose or over... but you must have legit equipona dose right and then 600 will be ok ,, if the equipona is hlf way bunk or balonie then you may think you take 600mg and in reslity you take 120 mg which wont do nothing
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alright so equipona will be...1000-1200 mgs of Strango equipona weekly plus 20 ius of gh daily ...low test around 150mg
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alright so equipona will be...1000-1200 mgs of Strango equipona weekly plus 20 ius of gh daily ...low test around 150mg
Damn wouldn't that much equipose turn your blood into sludge ???
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Damn wouldn't that much equipose turn your blood into sludge ???
Nah, I woulnd't stress it. I've been running a gram of EQ for 8+ weeks now. If you do have some concern, just check your blood pressure. It's a quick procedure that can save a lot of headache. Check blood pressure every 4-8 weeks and you'll know if your body is g2g on that dose.
Preventative maintanence... safety first kids :D
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i've ran more eq than that before with deca and my hematocrit stayed in the normal range. drink grapefruit juice every morning.
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equipona,,if legit....again you need chef who know what he doing,, not every chef know what they doing,, many work with balonie poweders,, the realy bad ones dont know that equipona is nto even powder...so you need top chef,, but if you can get hands on legit equipona wether vet or from top chef it can be replacement not even close to trenbolona but second best,, nandrolona can also be replacement but it being more smooth look yes muscly look yes full ,, yes it blow up tissue from within especialy with hgh but its more of a smooth water look that gives size but if no shirt on it wont be detailed size it will be size bulk size,, npp is better
equipona is my favortie after trenbolona when it come to anabolic prospect,, equipona in high enough dose as in if legit 500-600 mg is the dose or over... but you must have legit equipona dose right and then 600 will be ok ,, if the equipona is hlf way bunk or balonie then you may think you take 600mg and in reslity you take 120 mg which wont do nothing
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How long you think equipona is effective for before the gains/slow or stop? With the ester being a long one does it not start to accumulate over the weeks and cause problems?
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eq takes like, 2 months before it kicks in and you can feel the real intense pumps. couldn't run it alongside an oral because the pumps would get so bad
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Trenbolona is wonderful, I don't see how one can mutate without it: every day I see more veins appearing everywhere on my body - I didn't even know these veins existed before my trenbolona adventure! I can't stop looking in the mirror because every day my physique becomes thicker and leaner. I just smile and thank god silently, lol.
Trenbolona makes me feel like a god in the gym. I just don't get tired - I literally have to force myself to leave the gym because otherwise I'd stay there for hours just pumping and pumping. And no, I'm not lifting light, I literally rep previous 1RM without even breaking a sweat. ;D
NO TRENBOLONA NO BODYBUILD!
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eq takes like, 2 months before it kicks in and you can feel the real intense pumps. couldn't run it alongside an oral because the pumps would get so bad
Bollocks, I know I'm taking eq within 2 days, not 2 months.
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bodybuilding is the drugs
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Nah, I woulnd't stress it. I've been running a gram of EQ for 8+ weeks now. If you do have some concern, just check your blood pressure. It's a quick procedure that can save a lot of headache. Check blood pressure every 4-8 weeks and you'll know if your body is g2g on that dose.
Preventative maintanence... safety first kids :D
Made my blood pressure and anxiety sky rocket doesn't agree with me. I use masteron instead. The time I did use eq I loved it. Besides the sides.
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Bollocks, I know I'm taking eq within 2 days, not 2 months.
you running boldenone base or something?
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any of you fools ever try Boldenone prop? I hear it's a guaranteed fever upon injection
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no but i'd want to! only time i've seen boldenone in any form besides EQ is in raws
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any of you fools ever try Boldenone prop? I hear it's a guaranteed fever upon injection
Haha no way in hell would I use that! I heard exactly what you just said about it. I remeber I had some 200mg prop amps from I.P those sons of bitches hurt so bad and made me so sick I got rid of like 30 of them in the trash. I would have a fever for 3-4 days after an inject. How could they even sell that bullshit!
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any of you fools ever try Boldenone prop? I hear it's a guaranteed fever upon injection
i did it for 4 days and the injections were unbearable. I even mixed it with some painless test and it still hurt like hell. Never again. I saw Boldenone acetate on someones list recently.
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i did it for 4 days and the injections were unbearable. I even mixed it with some painless test and it still hurt like hell. Never again. I saw Boldenone acetate on someones list recently.
who had it? are they reputable at all? most ugls sell garbage ass gear and when it comes to exotics it's more than likely shitty
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any of you fools ever try Boldenone prop? I hear it's a guaranteed fever upon injection
are people that rushed to get results? i've never heard a good thing about that crap!... what's wrong with doing 1 or 2 injections per weeks with no problems whatsoever except for having to wait 2 weeks to see results?
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are people that rushed to get results? i've never heard a good thing about that crap!... what's wrong with doing 1 or 2 injections per weeks with no problems whatsoever except for having to wait 2 weeks to see results?
im convinced that a lot of these guys like to inject everyday to feel like "real bodybuilders" even though 99 percent of them dont compete and almost anything oil based doesnt work or "kick in" that quickly, you shouldnt need any more than 2 shots a week of anything oil based, even Tren, these guys are turning themselves into a giant bag of scar tissue, i love gear but shooting every damn day is just stupid and makes you a slave to a syringe.
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are people that rushed to get results? i've never heard a good thing about that crap!... what's wrong with doing 1 or 2 injections per weeks with no problems whatsoever except for having to wait 2 weeks to see results?
yes. i can run a full cycle in the time it takes for it to kick in and completely leave the system. those long esters are too much of a pain
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yes. i can run a full cycle in the time it takes for it to kick in and completely leave the system. those long esters are too much of a pain
if you look at logically, that ester that takes a month to kick in, will take a month (or more, since it builds up) to leave the system. long esters are higher dosed, and cheaper (at least where i'm from)... also, less injections (I HATE INJECTIONS!!!) ... guess it's a matter of personal preference.
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if you look at logically, that ester that takes a month to kick in, will take a month (or more, since it builds up) to leave the system. long esters are higher dosed, and cheaper (at least where i'm from)... also, less injections (I HATE INJECTIONS!!!) ... guess it's a matter of personal preference.
i just backfill a 29gauge slin pin, real easy to do injections and then sometimes i'll do sub-cutaneous depending on what it is.
i mean, i guess you can frontload the long esters but they still take awhile to kick in that way and i have my reasons for wanting something that clears out of the blood fast
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ment might be worth looking into for a tren hater but i here its not as tren. Another good steriod to look into may be stenabolan I here they have recently came out with a legal version methyl stenobolan that has supposed to be kicking ass not quit the punch of superdrol but way easier on the liver. I cant really use orals because of my heavy drinking. Stenobolan is proably an underated steroid kick to the wayside because of tren similaritys not that i have took it but I here its not bad. They say that methyl sten is a pretty sweet deal melting fat like tren and fairly easy on liver. Superdrol is stronger then tren I dont care what anyone says I dont take it like or what ever but it will change you faster then anything on planet earth. Even gh15 has said as much I dont know why he avodied it in this post. Many other gurus have came to the same conclusion. Im just parroting info but I have seen it with my won eyes also .
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i don;t know i just don't like tren at all. maybe it was because i used it by itself. but i felt terribly depressed and moody. i have heard it can make guys right down suicidal..i guess everyone is different
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ment might be worth looking into for a tren hater but i here its not as tren. Another good steriod to look into may be stenabolan I here they have recently came out with a legal version methyl stenobolan that has supposed to be kicking ass not quit the punch of superdrol but way easier on the liver. I cant really use orals because of my heavy drinking. Stenobolan is proably an underated steroid kick to the wayside because of tren similaritys not that i have took it but I here its not bad. They say that methyl sten is a pretty sweet deal melting fat like tren and fairly easy on liver. Superdrol is stronger then tren I dont care what anyone says I dont take it like or what ever but it will change you faster then anything on planet earth. Even gh15 has said as much I dont know why he avodied it in this post. Many other gurus have came to the same conclusion. Im just parroting info but I have seen it with my won eyes also .
heavy drinking > orals
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any of you fools ever try Boldenone prop? I hear it's a guaranteed fever upon injection
DON'T EVER TAKE THAT SHIT !!!....EVER !!! or Boldenone acetate.
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im convinced that a lot of these guys like to inject everyday to feel like "real bodybuilders" even though 99 percent of them dont compete and almost anything oil based doesnt work or "kick in" that quickly, you shouldnt need any more than 2 shots a week of anything oil based, even Tren, these guys are turning themselves into a giant bag of scar tissue, i love gear but shooting every damn day is just stupid and makes you a slave to a syringe.
stop describing me accurately to the Tee
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yes. i can run a full cycle in the time it takes for it to kick in and completely leave the system. those long esters are too much of a pain
I totally agree. That's why i always use short esters unless cruising. I want instant gratification. Kind of like a fat kid. haters gonna hate
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I totally agree. That's why i always use short esters unless cruising. I want instant gratification. Kind of like a fat kid. haters gonna hate
I totally agree. Hell, I get off on injecting myself almost daily. Love it !
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once the mutation starts ..how does the diet look in terms of carbs ,pro ,fat ratio per pound of bodyweight.????
i checked, it is not in the bible... :'(
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i'm 33 and the combo tren e/deca let ar least 5/6 girl unsatisfied...
no more tren and deca for me although i was big and lean, perfect pussy pullin body but can't use my dick so no interest.
my libido was ok but nothing happened and in some forum they speak about guy who never recover from tren deca.
i prefer destroying pussy than being better at gym so test dbol eq and clen is enough.
I know a few fellas who have been running deca (and some tren here and there) for over a few decades already (well into their 40's atm). Not much probs with dick really. Sometimes pop some cialis, but most of the time - it works as it should (or so they say, but I know them very well, so..)..
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I know a few fellas who have been running deca (and some tren here and there) for over a few decades already (well into their 40's atm). Not much probs with dick really. Sometimes pop some cialis, but most of the time - it works as it should (or so they say, but I know them very well, so..)..
when you get tren or deca dick due to high prolactin levels , cialis or viagra will help a little but wont do much..you weill have issues keeping the hard on ,achieving it is easy...Ive been off tren for 6 days now..and my dick is back 100 % ..not that it was limp when i was on tren but it is not the same..
of course im up to 1g of prop- weekly ,along with some masteron ,gh winny and 1000ius of hcg as well
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once the mutation starts ..how does the diet look in terms of carbs ,pro ,fat ratio per pound of bodyweight.????
i checked, it is not in the bible... :'(
he doesnt give info on diets.
hes strictly a hormones guy.
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I totally agree. That's why i always use short esters unless cruising. I want instant gratification. Kind of like a fat kid. haters gonna hate
the thing is though that it doesnt work like that, the "instant gratification" youre experiencing is placebo effect, you THINK its working so it must be.
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he doesnt give info on diets.
hes strictly a hormones guy.
I hear ya, my canadian friend...but i was just wondering..im planning to run 15 ius daily and 900 mgs of EQ ( since im not gonna touch tren) i was thinking i will get away by eating more carbs and keeping the protein ,not low but just enough...around 1g per pound of bw...carbs keep me fuller , bigger and if im that lean with gh and eq it should be fun....I wanna obtain that rebound look we get right after contest but that only last one week before we get all watery...u feel me??
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I hear ya, my canadian friend...but i was just wondering..im planning to run 15 ius daily and 900 mgs of EQ ( since im not gonna touch tren) i was thinking i will get away by eating more carbs and keeping the protein ,not low but just enough...around 1g per pound of bw...carbs keep me fuller , bigger and if im that lean with gh and eq it should be fun....I wanna obtain that rebound look we get right after contest but htsat only last one week before we get all watery...u feel me??
my appetite was so fucking crazy on 600 EQ i cant imagine 900 or more, i stayed lean on it though.
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my appetite was so fucking crazy on 600 EQ i cant imagine 900 or more, i stayed lean on it though.
I gotta go with EQ or Primo in place of tren....I can get strangos EQ...Primo,?/ hmmm, i dont trust too many sources with legit primobolan nowdays...i got a friend in Dubai that gets the real shit...I might have to call him so her can send me some...fuck it maybe I will run both EQ and Primo..we;ll see
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I gotta go with EQ or Primo in place of tren....I can get strangos EQ...Primo,?/ hmmm, i dont trust too many sources with legit primobolan nowdays...i got a friend in Dubai that gets the real shit...I might have to call him so her can send me some...fuck it maybe I will run both EQ and Primo..we;ll see
seems to me that you'll stay just as lean with that then with Tren and avoid all the nastiness Tren brings.
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seems to me that you'll stay just as lean with that then with Tren and avoid all the nastiness Tren brings.
I think so..i will never touch any progestins ever again..fuck those..lol
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I hear ya, my canadian friend...but i was just wondering..im planning to run 15 ius daily and 900 mgs of EQ ( since im not gonna touch tren) i was thinking i will get away by eating more carbs and keeping the protein ,not low but just enough...around 1g per pound of bw...carbs keep me fuller , bigger and if im that lean with gh and eq it should be fun....I wanna obtain that rebound look we get right after contest but that only last one week before we get all watery...u feel me??
yeah i hear that.
the big full round look. vascular as fuck. like dennis james 3 weeks out.
get your bf down like you have in the past. once you get it there, keep your eq/prop etc where it is. throw in some anadrol @ 100mg ed. then start upping your carbs a bit using a carb cycle. when your lean the drol and increase carbs will blow you up and give you the exact look your hunting for. cycling the carbs will help prevent any water issues but still keep you full and happy. the key is being lean for he drol to work well- it wont water you over when your already that lean but instead volumise the fuck out of you.
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when you get tren or deca dick due to high prolactin levels , cialis or viagra will help a little but wont do much..you weill have issues keeping the hard on ,achieving it is easy...Ive been off tren for 6 days now..and my dick is back 100 % ..not that it was limp when i was on tren but it is not the same..
of course im up to 1g of prop- weekly ,along with some masteron ,gh winny and 1000ius of hcg as well
Yeah I see what you talkin' about. Well then I'm sure they had/have some similar stuff going on from time to time too, but nothing severe, that's for sure. I'm not sure how big of a role a genetic predisposition plays in regard to getting high prolactin, but these fellas are naturally very lean and never get fat or overly bloated (so I assume it may be related somehow.).
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I gotta go with EQ or Primo in place of tren....I can get strangos EQ...Primo,?/ hmmm, i dont trust too many sources with legit primobolan nowdays...i got a friend in Dubai that gets the real shit...I might have to call him so her can send me some...fuck it maybe I will run both EQ and Primo..we;ll see
primo- how did you like it? im curious about it as i have never used it.
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yeah i hear that.
the big full round look. vascular as fuck. like dennis james 3 weeks out.
get your bf down like you have in the past. once you get it there, keep your eq/prop etc where it is. throw in some anadrol @ 100mg ed. then start upping your carbs a bit using a carb cycle. when your lean the drol and increase carbs will blow you up and give you the exact look your hunting for. cycling the carbs will help prevent any water issues but still keep you full and happy. the key is being lean for he drol to work well- it wont water you over when your already that lean but instead volumise the fuck out of you.
for sure..that sounds like a plan...believe it or not..this (approach) is kinda new to me ..i always followed or did the same old shit every one else preached ..got decent resutls but it's time to take it to the next level .
As far as Primo , you gotta run it high to see decent results..anything under 600mgs weekly is a waste of time imo..and thats hoping you get the real shit..other than that I loved it.
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Yeah I see what you talkin' about. Well then I'm sure they had/have some similar stuff going on from time to time too, but nothing severe, that's for sure. I'm not sure how big of a role a genetic predisposition plays in regard to getting high prolactin, but these fellas are naturally very lean and never get fat or overly bloated (so I assume it may be related somehow.).
im under 10 % bf right now and i was having issues ..the biggest ive gotten was around 257 to be exact and never went over 13%...it's kinda weird..i dont ever get gyno , yet my prolactin levels if i dont take cabaser show up just a bit abnormal after bloodwork...just to be safe and save my self from some embarrasement in front of pussy...i give up on progestins , regarless of how good they are..lol
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wow, 257 at 13 percent is pretty impressive, how tall?
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wow, 257 at 13 percent is pretty impressive, how tall?
5'10...
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pretty damn solid.
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this pic was taken around that time 2008..i think i was 240 sum here..holding tons of water and arms around 21 inches but not a single cut in them ..lol
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd472/EGUN17/oly3333.jpg)
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massive triceps.
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and watery as hell.
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you must have been tossing around some pretty impressive weight at that size.
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Yeah , strengh off the chain there but anyways...i got Novos and kigs for the mutation..which probably will happen around january..im dropping the gh for now ( was taking 6 ius daily) and keep getting leaner...at the moment my cycle looks like this
1000mgs of prop weekly
600mgs of masteron weekly
100mgs of winny EOD
50 mgs of proviron
25 mgs of aromasin eod
.5 cabser eod
1000ius of hcg weekly..
then mutate with:
150 mgs of prop
900 mgs of EQ
600-900 MGS OF PRIMO
15 IUS OF HGH
AND PLAY WITH ANADROLS or d bols
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heavy drinking > orals
;)
they only reason I take steroids is to make me better at drinking :)
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they only reason I take steroids is to make me better at drinking :)
rofl!!!
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Yeah , strengh off the chain there but anyways...i got Novos and kigs for the mutation..which probably will happen around january..im dropping the gh for now ( was taking 6 ius daily) and keep getting leaner...at the moment my cycle looks like this
1000mgs of prop weekly
600mgs of masteron weekly
100mgs of winny EOD
50 mgs of proviron
25 mgs of aromasin eod
.5 cabser eod
1000ius of hcg weekly..
then mutate with:
150 mgs of prop
900 mgs of EQ
600-900 MGS OF PRIMO
15 IUS OF HGH
AND PLAY WITH ANADROLS or d bols
you dont think drol or d-bol will bloat you worse than running deca or higher test dose? drol and d-bol bloat the fuck out of me. i get chins on top of chins while still having abs, shit is retarded
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this pic was taken around that time 2008..i think i was 240 sum here..holding tons of water and arms around 21 inches but not a single cut in them ..lol
(http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd472/EGUN17/oly3333.jpg)
Don't worry, bro. Fatceps are permissible under certain circumstances. If you had the same arms and a waist twice that size, I can see people getting on your case. But no need to be defensive. Looking like an absolute beast there, water retention or not. We juice. Water retention ebbs and flows like the tide. ;D
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have you tried 1-test cypionate before? sounds like it would meet the criteria you're looking for. it's like a mix of mast, a shorter acting eq and primo rolled into one. keeps you hard, dry and full/pumped with solid gains, it's pretty good if you can get your hands on legit stuff. run that instead of the pimo, if you are trying to put on mass and probably run superdrol as well instead of the d-bol, lol
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you dont think drol or d-bol will bloat you worse than running deca or higher test dose? drol and d-bol bloat the fuck out of me. i get chins on top of chins while still having abs, shit is retarded
i got see how it goes and play with it when mutation time comes..most likely i will use dbols but i had to be absolutley shredded.
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what's your insulin protocol look like? :D
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what's your insulin protocol look like? :D
at tha time ..I did humalog 10 ius PWO on workout days only of course..followed by a huge shake coonsisting in 100g of carbs -75 g of whey and 3 slices of ezekiel bread...i dont fuck with slin no more...when i did it was never more than 10ius and for 5 weeks on and 5 off
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slinpimp go eq and primo both same time
1g prim+600-1g eq if we talking mutation ofc
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yeah i hear that.
the big full round look. vascular as fuck. like dennis james 3 weeks out.
get your bf down like you have in the past. once you get it there, keep your eq/prop etc where it is. throw in some anadrol @ 100mg ed. then start upping your carbs a bit using a carb cycle. when your lean the drol and increase carbs will blow you up and give you the exact look your hunting for. cycling the carbs will help prevent any water issues but still keep you full and happy. the key is being lean for he drol to work well- it wont water you over when your already that lean but instead volumise the fuck out of you.
No one,
Is there any reson of 15 IU of GH..specially for noun compateter...why not spend that money on quality AAS..
would like to hear your opinion about the GH
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so L.L. was gimmick,,,,this slinpimp is real guy ,,,,old pics shredded ,,nxlabs rep was gimmick,,,big guy tho.
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so L.L. was gimmick,,,,this slinpimp is real guy ,,,,old pics shredded ,,nxlabs rep was gimmick,,,big guy tho.
no gimmick here...l.l. was my old username....i was sponsored by nx labs back in 2007...shredded pics from tha phootshoot is me , the bloated pic is me also 2008 offseason..same guy..same face.
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no gimmick here...l.l. was my old username....i was sponsored by nx labs back in 2007...shredded pics from tha phootshoot is me , the bloated pic is me also 2008 offseason..same guy..same face.
cleared up,,,ok sorry ,yes sick pics then saw them,,nx sponsored our boy here matt t,,,same time?
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cleared up,,,ok sorry ,yes sick pics then saw them,,nx sponsored our boy here matt t,,,same time?
i think Matt was a year before me.. isn he the ( light skin) black fella? when i was there it was me , some Canadian fitness model named Andy ( cant remeber his last name) , IFBB PROs Lou Joseph and Santana Moss before they turned pro...well , i think Lou was a PRO already.
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i think Matt was a year before me.. isn he the ( light skin) black fella? when i was there it was me , some Canadian fitness model named Andy ( cant remeber his last name) , IFBB PROs Lou Joseph and Santana Moss before they turned pro...well , i think Lou was a PRO already.
yeah matt was light skinned ,,,there out of buissness?lou joseph was a beast no doubt.
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slinpimp go eq and primo both same time
1g prim+600-1g eq if we talking mutation ofc
thanks dawg, will definitely do this
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yeah matt was light skinned ,,,there out of buissness?lou joseph was a beast no doubt.
I dont know..I havent talked ot those guys in years..
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I canīt see your pic slinpimp...is it my browser? my mind? the tren? or is it gone?
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what's the deal with Tren and hairloss ?
A friend of mine..Competitive BBer with tons of knowledge, tells me that hair loss is unavoidable on tren. And he's got me looking at my fkng head in the mirror 40 times a day since he said that (up from my usual 25)...and I don't see a thing, but now I'm tripping....bald in UNACCEPTABLE..fuck that noise
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No one,
Is there any reson of 15 IU of GH..specially for noun compateter...why not spend that money on quality AAS..
would like to hear your opinion about the GH
gh used in conjunction with anabolics will gives a look and an extra dimension to a physique that anabolics alone will never create.
i think good gains can be made on as little as 4-6iu of gh a day. how much gh you'll want to use is entirely a personal choice. but with gh, the more you use the better it works.
i think gh is the greatest compound to ever happen to anyone who has any interest in their own health. its benefits are countless. and it just so happens to build slabs of muscle and give a 'look' you could never otherwise achieve without it.
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what's the deal with Tren and hairloss ?
A friend of mine..Competitive BBer with tons of knowledge, tells me that hair loss is unavoidable on tren. And he's got me looking at my fkng head in the mirror 40 times a day since he said that (up from my usual 25)...and I don't see a thing, but now I'm tripping....bald in UNACCEPTABLE..fuck that noise
You've been using gear for 20-30 years and haven't lost any hair. I wouldn't worry about it.
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what's the deal with Tren and hairloss ?
A friend of mine..Competitive BBer with tons of knowledge, tells me that hair loss is unavoidable on tren. And he's got me looking at my fkng head in the mirror 40 times a day since he said that (up from my usual 25)...and I don't see a thing, but now I'm tripping....bald in UNACCEPTABLE..fuck that noise
this also freaks me out. I panic if I think I could lose my hair. Bald is a horrible look for me. So far no hair loss on anything though, including tren. Any of the your family bald?
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You've been using gear for 20-30 years and haven't lost any hair. I wouldn't worry about it.
I have ?? gee....that's news to me..but thanks for filling me in ::)
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this also freaks me out. I panic if I think I could lose my hair. Bald is a horrible look for me. So far no hair loss on anything though, including tren. Any of the your family bald?
Not really...receding hairlines on a few, nothing drastic...but nobody is BALD..not a one. And I'm with you...I have an ugly dome..i just shaved my head a month ago and thank god its growing back...I would look horrible bald.
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Not really...receding hairlines on a few, nothing drastic...but nobody is BALD..not a one. And I'm with you...I have an ugly dome..i just shaved my head a month ago and thank god its growing back...I would look horrible bald.
go to the drug board lyquid has many views on this and i think he discusses drug cycles that sped it,caused it,stopped it,,,
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what's the deal with Tren and hairloss ?
A friend of mine..Competitive BBer with tons of knowledge, tells me that hair loss is unavoidable on tren. And he's got me looking at my fkng head in the mirror 40 times a day since he said that (up from my usual 25)...and I don't see a thing, but now I'm tripping....bald in UNACCEPTABLE..fuck that noise
lol..yeah , i hear you on that..some guys can rock the bald look but fuck it , I'm a Dago , i have a full head of black hair...I never noticed any hair loss from tren . shit, i never experienced any sides other than libido issues this time around that im in my early 30's ( 31) , reason why i wont touch it again...if baldness runs in your family it wil fuck you up thats for sure...
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I canīt see your pic slinpimp...is it my browser? my mind? the tren? or is it gone?
it is there, mang ..on page 4..
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Now I see it dawg. Impressive. Better up my gh... ;)
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No one,
Is there any reson of 15 IU of GH..specially for noun compateter...why not spend that money on quality AAS..
would like to hear your opinion about the GH
THE THING IS IF YOU CAN AFFORD 15IU OF GH YOU CAN ALREADY AFFORD THE AAS...HENCE USE BOTH.
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I did a tren only cylce once for a contest,because I had ran out of everything else at the time.............had dick problems for months afterwards.
Thank God that "Mr. Happy" is once again smiling! :)
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I did a tren only cylce once for a contest,because I had ran out of everything else at the time.............had dick problems for months afterwards.
Thank God that "Mr. Happy" is once again smiling! :)
That's one thing about gear advice...It's all over the damn place..... GH15 says tren makes you horny as hell
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Now I see it dawg. Impressive. Better up my gh... ;)
hahaha..for sure...the more GH the better..shit, speaking of ..do any of you guys know or seen pics of Swiper12..mothefucker all he does is 2-3 g of test weekly , lots of gh ( 10-15) and looks insane....he throws an oral every now and then for 5 weeks or so and stays on t3 all year around....homeboy also cruises on 1g of test per week ..lol
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That's one thing about gear advice...It's all over the damn place..... GH15 says tren makes you horny as hell
I`m always horny and still was while on the tren,but hard ons weren`t nearly as hard,and it took a while to get aroused enough to get it up and keep it up during sex . :'(
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I did a tren only cylce once for a contest,because I had ran out of everything else at the time.............had dick problems for months afterwards.
Thank God that "Mr. Happy" is once again smiling! :)
That's one thing about gear advice...It's all over the damn place..... GH15 says tren makes you horny as hell
same here....I ran it years ago and was fine ,not horny as hell but could still keep a hard on without a problem....tried it again recently and fuck i could get hard but in 3 minutes i would lose interest in sex....i stopped last sunday and Mr happy is back in full effect....another reason i like short ester they leave your system ASAP...as far as tren making people horny is an individual thing...some swear it is better than test in term of libido ..in my case test is king
There are 2 things i will never come off from :
1.test
2.hcg
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Test is best! :)
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Test is best! :)
king !!!
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king !!!
There you go bringing up Alex23 again...can you guys just stop thinking about him?
REMAIN/ACT/SEE/BE/LIVE/LISTEN/LOVE/CARRYON POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's one thing about gear advice...It's all over the damn place..... GH15 says tren makes you horny as hell
turns me into a porn star.
if i dont have gf i'll actually consider not running it just due to that fact- it has caused me to make regretful decisions at times :D
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There you go bringing up Alex23 again...can you guys just stop thinking about him?
REMAIN/ACT/SEE/BE/LIVE/LISTEN/LOVE/CARRYON POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
huh?? no idea who that is..im a newbie here...remember
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what's the deal with Tren and hairloss ?
A friend of mine..Competitive BBer with tons of knowledge, tells me that hair loss is unavoidable on tren. And he's got me looking at my fkng head in the mirror 40 times a day since he said that (up from my usual 25)...and I don't see a thing, but now I'm tripping....bald in UNACCEPTABLE..fuck that noise
it's not any worse than test. mast is worse and winny is the worst
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btw , i stopped the gh about 3 days ago while i keep getting leaner and re introduce it when it's time to MUTATE but i got the novos in the mail today..i said " wtf , let me do at least one bottle to give it a try since ive never done them before ...shoot 3 ius and my hands are numb..good sign so far,,
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i think primo is an amazing compound but for bulking, unless you're rich, there are better choices out there and if you want to "mutate" then yeah, definitely better options. i still think you should run some 1-test, either methylated or cypionate with some superdrol. you'll explode while staying dry and hard. but up to you as i forget why you didn't want to run tren in the first place
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it's not any worse than test. mast is worse and winny is the worst
anadrol is worse than all of them combined
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gh used in conjunction with anabolics will gives a look and an extra dimension to a physique that anabolics alone will never create.
i think good gains can be made on as little as 4-6iu of gh a day. how much gh you'll want to use is entirely a personal choice. but with gh, the more you use the better it works.
i think gh is the greatest compound to ever happen to anyone who has any interest in their own health. its benefits are countless. and it just so happens to build slabs of muscle and give a 'look' you could never otherwise achieve without it.
Took me a while to figure out the difference between a fella on anabolic steroids vs anabolic steroids and gh. Now I can spot em from a mile away. I gotta say the word "mutate" fits perfectly with growth hormone, the word "freak" fits well with it. I personally like the old look better, I think it's more real, more admirable but at the same time I'm not naive..don't expect to look like a freak without gh. good stuff no one 8)
(http://www.davedraper.com/gallery/data/510/88chucksipes3.jpg) physique built on anabolic steroids
(http://fsb.zedge.net/content/3/5/0/6/1-2522859-3506-t.jpg) peptide look
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anadrol is worse than all of them combined
it's hard on hair but i didn't lose too much on it, lost the most hair out of anything ever, from 2 grams of test a week. i think it's relative though because people run different dosages of certain compounds, like mast is horrible for the hair but people run low dosages, while on otherhand test isn't as hard on the hair but people run huge dosages so it just melts their hairline away.
i'd run tren 24/7 365 days a year if it didn't make me lose hair.
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turns me into a porn star.
if i dont have gf i'll actually consider not running it just due to that fact- it has caused me to make regretful decisions at times :D
HA ;D
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i think primo is an amazing compound but for bulking, unless you're rich, there are better choices out there and if you want to "mutate" then yeah, definitely better options. i still think you should run some 1-test, either methylated or cypionate with some superdrol. you'll explode while staying dry and hard. but up to you as i forget why you didn't want to run tren in the first place
libido issues///didnt wanna fuck my girl...Id get hard as fuck ,horny as hell but could not keep the erection after 2 minutes..i took pharma grade cabaser and all..im allergic to progestins..lol
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groink when your run your hand through your heads in the shower do you see any hair on your hands? That's nothing to worry about, imo..besides the average person looses 200 hairs a day. when you look in the shower and the drain is clogged up with hair, that's when you start worrying :D try some of nosleeps advice..coconut oil works like a charm. I have to get my hair cut every 2 weeks it grows so fast from that shit. Olive oil works well too
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turns me into a porn star.
if i dont have gf i'll actually consider not running it just due to that fact- it has caused me to make regretful decisions at times :D
lucky you cuz tren is in fact an mazing drug.
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it's hard on hair but i didn't lose too much on it, lost the most hair out of anything ever, from 2 grams of test a week. i think it's relative though because people run different dosages of certain compounds, like mast is horrible for the hair but people run low dosages, while on otherhand test isn't as hard on the hair but people run huge dosages so it just melts their hairline away.
i'd run tren 24/7 365 days a year if it didn't make me lose hair.
Yeah test makes mine fall out as well but it's managable since my hair grows so damn fast. Deca is pretty much your best bet if your concerned about hair loss (most of the time)
What about EQ is that hard on the hairline?
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libido issues///didnt wanna fuck my girl...Id get hard as fuck ,horny as hell but could not keep the erection after 2 minutes..i took pharma grade cabaser and all..im allergic to progestins..lol
ah word. i don't think tren raises prolactin levels, growth hormone will raise prolactin levels but side effects of tren are really a mystery and in a lot of guys who run it they seem to get their sides cleared up, gyno/leaky nipples/libido/etc... by running letrozole. no clue why letro works to combat tren sides since it's a progesteron but it seems to help a lot of people. have you tried running real legit letro from a solid source with the tren?
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Yeah test makes mine fall out as well but it's managable since my hair grows so damn fast. Deca is pretty much your best bet if your concerned about hair loss (most of the time)
What about EQ is that hard on the hairline?
yeah, you are right if you have hair loss issues you are really confined to only a select few, nandro, var and test with dutasteride.
eq is like, in the middle. it's not as easy on the hair as deca but not as bad as test or tren.
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groink when your run your hand through your heads in the shower do you see any hair on your hands? That's nothing to worry about, imo..besides the average person looses 200 hairs a day. when you look in the shower and the drain is clogged up with hair, that's when you start worrying :D try some of nosleeps advice..coconut oil works like a charm. I have to get my hair cut every 2 weeks it grows so fast from that shit. Olive oil works well too
Nope....I'm good. It's what that dude said that freaked me out, he was pretty damn emphatic, and i respect his knowledge.
I plan on taking Tren for a long time, don't want any issues
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WAS MASTERON IN YOUR STACK SLINPIMP AND AT WHAT DOSAGE WAS TEST RAN COMPARED TO TREN?
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WAS MASTERON IN YOUR STACK SLINPIMP AND AT WHAT DOSAGE WAS TEST RAN COMPARED TO TREN?
yeah masteron was and still is at 500mgs weekly ...at first I started it ( tren) 100 mgs eod around 400 mgs weekly..test was at 750 or so...i was fine but after week 5 i started losing my libido and shit....so i lowered the test to 250 and increase the tren to 700mgs...same thing ..so i dropped tren 5 days ago and dick is 100% in full effect...i am taking 1g of prop weekly along with masteron and winny now
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DAMN THAT SUCKS.
HOPEFULLY TREN WONT TREAT ME THAT WAY.
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ah word. i don't think tren raises prolactin levels, growth hormone will raise prolactin levels but side effects of tren are really a mystery and in a lot of guys who run it they seem to get their sides cleared up, gyno/leaky nipples/libido/etc... by running letrozole. no clue why letro works to combat tren sides since it's a progesteron but it seems to help a lot of people. have you tried running real legit letro from a solid source with the tren?
see, the fuck up shit i dont get gyno ever ,nor no leaking tits , no night sweats , nothing...i do see results from week 1 , so my shit wasnt bunk ..i used strangos
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There are 2 things i will never come off from :
1.test
2.hcg
I'm curious - why hcg?
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DAMN THAT SUCKS.
HOPEFULLY TREN WONT TREAT ME THAT WAY.
maybe not..you just gotta trY it and see for yourself...my boy has been on tren for a year straight and he is good to go , no sexual sides otherwise his fine assed girl would have left him..lol..the good thing is you get sides with tren a ...a week after u drop it and raise the test u will be fine...reason why i love short esters...in and out your body in days..good luck
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I'm curious - why hcg?
keeps my balls big and my body producing its own sperm...oh i iwll never go off aromasin neither....if you make the decision to stay "ON" for the rest of your life like I have...you gotta run hcg and an AI along with test....
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maybe not..you just gotta trY it and see for yourself...my boy has been on tren for a year straight and he is good to go , no sexual sides otherwise his fine assed girl would have left him..lol..the good thing is you get sides with tren a ...a week after u drop it and raise the test u will be fine...reason why i love short esters...in and out your body in days..good luck
THANKS. BTW U EVER TRY DECA AND/OR NPP?
IF SO, WHICH WAS BETTER. IF JUST ONE, WHAT DOSAGE IS A GOOD STARTING DOSAGE?
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maybe not..you just gotta trY it and see for yourself...my boy has been on tren for a year straight and he is good to go , no sexual sides otherwise his fine assed girl would have left him..lol..the good thing is you get sides with tren a ...a week after u drop it and raise the test u will be fine...reason why i love short esters...in and out your body in days..good luck
yeah, i don't get any sides from tren either. my blood pressure stays fine, no insomnia, libido is ok, only issue is the hairloss for me
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Test is best! :)
all these guys bueslmoo and gh15 got in my head about that test not being so good so I tried to lower it and use tren and eq I think Ill go back to test only.
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THANKS. BTW U EVER TRY DECA AND/OR NPP?
IF SO, WHICH WAS BETTER. IF JUST ONE, WHAT DOSAGE IS A GOOD STARTING DOSAGE?
I tried deca once , my 2nd cycle i was 24 ( 31 now) Test was at 600 mgs and deca at 400mgs for 12 weeks ...sick gains ,,cant remember exactly how many pounds i put on back then but definitely changed my physique.
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yeah, i don't get any sides from tren either. my blood pressure stays fine, no insomnia, libido is ok, only issue is the hairloss for me
buy a wig then, homey.. ;D
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yeah, i don't get any sides from tren either. my blood pressure stays fine, no insomnia, libido is ok, only issue is the hairloss for me
COCONUT OIL EVERY NIGHT, KEEP THAT FUCKING OIL IN YOUR GODDAMN HAIR OVERNIGHT. PUT A TOWEL ON THAT PILLOW. DONT BITCH ABOUT JUST DO IT.
NEXT STEP.
PERFORMANCE HAIR GROWTH SHAMPOO IN THE MORNING.
NEXT STEP. OPTIONAL ONCE PLATEAUīD.
1 SERVING TOCO-8
WORKS LIKE A CHARM.
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keeps my balls big and my body producing its own sperm...oh i iwll never go off aromasin neither....if you make the decision to stay "ON" for the rest of your life like I have...you gotta run hcg and an AI along with test....
I talked with one of the guys I mentioned earlier (who has been "on" for decades) and he said that he produces sperm all the time, more or less. Tho' I'm sure that the actual fertility has been non existant for years, but if that's not an issue - I'm not sure whether hcg is a must.
AI's - if there are some issues I guess (that dude, and another one - didn't run AI ever, btw.). I start to see that while "basic stuff" remains the same - some variations may be very dependant on a given person, tolerance to various compounds and byproducts (like progest.).
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COCONUT OIL EVERY NIGHT, KEEP THAT FUCKING OIL IN YOUR GODDAMN HAIR OVERNIGHT. PUT A TOWEL ON THAT PILLOW. DONT BITCH ABOUT JUST DO IT.
NEXT STEP.
PERFORMANCE HAIR GROWTH SHAMPOO IN THE MORNING.
NEXT STEP. OPTIONAL ONCE PLATEAUīD.
1 SERVING TOCO-8
WORKS LIKE A CHARM.
What do you do against acne/stretchmarks?
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I tried deca once , my 2nd cycle i was 24 ( 31 now) Test was at 600 mgs and deca at 400mgs for 12 weeks ...sick gains ,,cant remember exactly how many pounds i put on back then but definitely changed my physique.
LIBIDO ISSUES?
UR TREN THING SCARES BUT ILL GIVE IT A GO.
REARDEN METAL KNOWS HOW IT IS AT MY SCHOOL...ALWAYS FRESH AND PRIMED. IN THE ZOO OF THE MEATHEADS, YOU GOTTA ALWAYS BE PRIMED AND THE LION.
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What do you do against acne/stretchmarks?
ACNE..VITAMIN B-5 400-500MG EVERY DAY. MAKAEVLI CAN ATTEST TO THIS.
STRETCH MARKS...VITAMIN E OIL 3 TIMES A DAY AND GENEROUS AMOUNTS.
G101 CAN ATTEST TO MY HAIR PROTOCOL...TOCO 8, THE COCO OIL, THE WORKS THE EVERYTHING.
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lucky you cuz tren is in fact an mazing drug.
like you though im finding i cant use it or dont want to use it anymore but for entirely different reasons- mine is chemical. i cant take what it does to me mentally. im not talking anger, just a general moodiness when im on it, and a little shorter fuse. trens a funny thing- it seems to affect everyone differently.
i took a break from it about 6 weeks ago now and my mental state is so much more noticeably improved. now i know why BLP recommends zanax on it- i never even considered in all my years of using tren to use a med to counter the sides, but then again since i have no plans on competing i ask myself is it really worth it to need an anti depressant/anxiety med to use tren and at this point in my life for me it isnt.
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THANKS. BTW U EVER TRY DECA AND/OR NPP?
IF SO, WHICH WAS BETTER. IF JUST ONE, WHAT DOSAGE IS A GOOD STARTING DOSAGE?
both of them are nandro so they do the same thing but decanoate has a long ass half life, somewhere around 11-14 days, takes awhile to kick in. most people run like, 400 deca with test to help with their joints, if you were going to run it as the cycle base without test then i'd run a gram or more.
i like npp for the joints though as i don't mind pinning often, but for bulking i'd run eq with the test since running both deca and test together will make you bloofy
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both of them are nandro so they do the same thing but decanoate has a long ass half life, somewhere around 11-14 days, takes awhile to kick in. most people run like, 400 deca with test to help with their joints, if you were going to run it as the cycle base without test then i'd run a gram or more.
i like npp for the joints though as i don't mind pinning often, but for bulking i'd run eq with the test since running both deca and test together will make you bloofy
THIS IS WHY I WAS THINKING NPP INSTEAD OF DECA. I HATE BLOOFINESS.
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LIBIDO ISSUES?
UR TREN THING SCARES BUT ILL GIVE IT A GO.
REARDEN METAL KNOWS HOW IT IS AT MY SCHOOL...ALWAYS FRESH AND PRIMED. IN THE ZOO OF THE MEATHEADS, YOU GOTTA ALWAYS BE PRIMED AND THE LION.
no libido issues at all i was 24..
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naw, i mean, nandro will make you bloofy. you'll hold water on both npp and deca which is why it helps with the joints so much, keeps them lubricated. eq is a good substitute for nandro, and eq won't make you bloofy but give you nice pumped up full look. problem i had with eq was i couldn't stop eating, appetite is insatiable, so i'd only run it when bulking. long ass half life on eq though, took more than a month before i started getting the insane pumps from it
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like you though im finding i cant use it or dont want to use it anymore but for entirely different reasons- mine is chemical. i cant take what it does to me mentally. im not talking anger, just a general moodiness when im on it, and a little shorter fuse. trens a funny thing- it seems to affect everyone differently.
i took a break from it about 6 weeks ago now and my mental state is so much more noticeably improved. now i know why BLP recommends zanax on it- i never even considered in all my years of using tren to use a med to counter the sides, but then again since i have no plans on competing i ask myself is it really worth it to need an anti depressant/anxiety med to use tren and at this point in my life for me it isnt.
i see, nothing compares to tren but there are alternatives , and getting more stricted with the diet , i guess..lol...
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naw, i mean, nandro will make you bloofy. you'll hold water on both npp and deca which is why it helps with the joints so much, keeps them lubricated. eq is a good substitute for nandro, and eq won't make you bloofy but give you nice pumped up full look. problem i had with eq was i couldn't stop eating, appetite is insatiable, so i'd only run it when bulking. long ass half life on eq though, took more than a month before i started getting the insane pumps from it
YA BUT CURIOUSITY WANTS ME TO TRY NPP.
ILL GO 900MG EQ, 600MG TRAN, 400MG NPP, 250MG TEST, 10IU GH ED. ;)
NAH ILL TRY 600MG EQ WITH 250MG TEST, THEN 400MG NPP OR DECA WITH 250MG TEST JUST NEEDA KNOW IF NPP IS GONNA HELP WITH WATER ISSUES THAT DECA WOULD DO TO ME.