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Title: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: ironneck on November 23, 2011, 05:44:26 PM
is any of you huge bastards able to pull that off?

i would like to but i'm to lazy to do all the things which are written on some lucid dreaming blogs

are there any drugs which make you able to pull that off?

Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: MikMaq on November 23, 2011, 05:45:55 PM
Stop watching kevin nolan films.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: io856 on November 23, 2011, 05:46:01 PM
Yeah I can say I have done that a few times... best thing is during a sex dream  :P
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 23, 2011, 05:47:01 PM
Stop watching kevin nolan films.

kevin nolan is a football player at west ham united
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 23, 2011, 05:48:52 PM
Yeah I can say I have done that a few times... best thing is during a sex dream  :P


did you have to practice?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: dr.chimps on November 23, 2011, 05:49:22 PM
They're on tour with Metallica.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Lumberjack88 on November 23, 2011, 05:50:16 PM
I have lucid dreams about 1-2 times a week :) It has always been that way...

And what things would you need to do, according to those blogs? I'm not sure if it's possible to trigger a lucid dream by doing something...
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: io856 on November 23, 2011, 05:51:55 PM

did you have to practice?
Nah man its usually like I'd be dreaming and then I would think to myself "No way this is real must be a dream" then start doing crazy shit.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 23, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
I have lucid dreams about 1-2 times a week :) It has always been that way...

And what things would you need to do, according to those blogs? I'm not sure if it's possible to trigger a lucid dream by doing something...

http://www.wikihow.com/Control-Your-Dreams
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 23, 2011, 05:53:10 PM
what i do have very frequently is is that my brain awakes but my body is still sleeping
can hardly breath and it takes like 20 seconds till that paralyzation is gone
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: g101 on November 23, 2011, 06:31:15 PM
H G H
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: bradistani on November 23, 2011, 08:08:41 PM
used to a lot a few years ago. usually involved flying.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Ugly on November 23, 2011, 08:11:24 PM
No matter how lucid the dream, I still can't punch in it.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Benoitlapierre on November 23, 2011, 08:40:35 PM
10ui hgh virtual 3d dream when it th real shit
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 23, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
I was able to do it quite often. However I stopped doing it because every single time I would go lucid, I always ended up with sleep paralysis and some OLD "shemale" Hag would be sitting on chest trying to steal my oxygen while I was lying on a couch in Lars Ulrich's living room as the band Lucid Delusion played the most horrid music.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 04:54:27 AM
No matter how lucid the dream, I still can't punch in it.


i once googled why punching in dreams is so hard to do

i read it means that you have doubts in yourself
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: seCrawler on November 24, 2011, 05:02:59 AM
I was able to do it quite often. However I stopped doing it because every single time I would go lucid, I always ended up with sleep paralysis and some OLD "shemale" Hag would be sitting on chest trying to steal my oxygen while I was lying on a couch in Lars Ulrich's living room as the band Lucid Delusion played the most horrid music.

steal my oxygen = obstructive sleep apnea.   :-\
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Capitulation on November 24, 2011, 06:56:42 AM
what i do have very frequently is is that my brain awakes but my body is still sleeping
can hardly breath and it takes like 20 seconds till that paralyzation is gone

Sleep paralysis - its actually quite common. If your used to it then you won't panic at all and realise already what is happening which makes it sort of a very very short lucid dream. Happens to me about once every 2 months or so.

Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 07:45:42 AM
Sleep paralysis - its actually quite common. If your used to it then you won't panic at all and realise already what is happening which makes it sort of a very very short lucid dream. Happens to me about once every 2 months or so.




i dont panic anymore but i dont have lucid dreaming while this happens
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Capitulation on November 24, 2011, 08:09:50 AM

i dont panic anymore but i dont have lucid dreaming while this happens

Okay well i don't know if it classifies as lucid dreaming but technically u are still in a dream state but you are conscious, i tend to have these and often if i do panic and i constantly try shouting 'Help me' but my mouth does not open or i think my body is shaking when it is not- now i just relax.

I guess maybe lucid dream was wrong choice of words ironneck.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 08:33:45 AM
Okay well i don't know if it classifies as lucid dreaming but technically u are still in a dream state but you are conscious, i tend to have these and often if i do panic and i constantly try shouting 'Help me' but my mouth does not open or i think my body is shaking when it is not- now i just relax.

I guess maybe lucid dream was wrong choice of words ironneck.

exactly what happens to me
you cant speak you can hardly breath
i understand all but i don't understand why it's so hard to breath while having this sleep paralazys
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: danabol on November 24, 2011, 08:54:48 AM
kevin nolan is a football player at west ham united


hahaha lmao  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 09:01:22 AM
Okay well i don't know if it classifies as lucid dreaming but technically u are still in a dream state but you are conscious, i tend to have these and often if i do panic and i constantly try shouting 'Help me' but my mouth does not open or i think my body is shaking when it is not- now i just relax.

I guess maybe lucid dream was wrong choice of words ironneck.
I`ve had this happen to me on four differeent occasions in my life.....pretty fucking scary when you have no clue as to what`s causing it.

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/08/sleep-paralysis.jpg)
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/guide/sleep-paralysis
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 09:07:58 AM
yeah religious people tend to think its a demon or somethign
in turkish they call it karabasan "black pusher" haha fucking morons


i also have often that i wake up and i see a person or a monster in front of me!!! after seconds when i rub my eye it disappears
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 09:09:11 AM
 :-\

"Rarely is sleep paralysis linked to deep underlying psychiatric problems"
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 24, 2011, 09:22:25 AM
Wes,

I think you found out who is behind this state of sleep paralysis, it seems to be a very ugly, mexican midget (I know stating the obvious).

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/08/sleep-paralysis.jpg)

"1"
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 09:24:18 AM
Wes,

I think you found out who is behind this state of sleep paralysis, it seems to be a very ugly, mexican midget (I know stating the obvious).

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/08/sleep-paralysis.jpg)

"1"
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 09:25:19 AM
yeah religious people tend to think its a demon or somethign
in turkish they call it karabasan "black pusher" haha fucking morons


i also have often that i wake up and i see a person or a monster in front of me!!! after seconds when i rub my eye it disappears
Lay off the cocainum + mushrooms !!  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
Lay off the cocainum + mushrooms !!  ;D


i just read it on the page you posted that its common you see or hear things that arent there
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Spicoli on November 24, 2011, 11:06:22 AM
I`ve also had it a few times in my life. So strong to where you not only feel a presence there but I see a dark ora. Everytime its happened the very next day someone close to me would die or some seriously bad shit/life changes shit would happen. first time was when I was 7 years old and last time about 3 years ago.
I just chalked it up to TRIPPY shit that cant be explained in this life time.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 24, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
I`ve also had it a few times in my life. So strong to where you not only feel a presence there but I see a dark ora. Everytime its happened the very next day someone close to me would die or some seriously bad shit/life changes shit would happen. first time was when I was 7 years old and last time about 3 years ago.
I just chalked it up to TRIPPY shit that cant be explained in this life time.

Old Hag syndrome is pretty weird. Whats strange is thousands of people are seeing the same type of entity. I'm not religious at all and have ran into this bitch before. Spooky shit. Possible cursed bloodline ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
wer all are seeing the same guy?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Ugly on November 24, 2011, 11:43:52 AM
For the dream fliers here, do you have to flap your arms, or do you just think yourself up in the air?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Swlabr on November 24, 2011, 11:45:54 AM
Trenbolona ace gives me really vivid dreams for some odd reason... I can't wait to see what I'll be like on GH and trenbolona. 8)
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 11:58:40 AM
For the dream fliers here, do you have to flap your arms, or do you just think yourself up in the air?

i never fly :(
i often dream that i cant punch or kick, that means i have some serious problem :(  i'm ok with it that just means i have to take more drugs :D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:00:12 PM

i just read it on the page you posted that its common you see or hear things that arent there
You should still lay off the cocainum + mushrooms brah!!  LOL  ;D

Just fucking with you dude!  :)
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 12:04:56 PM
You should still lay off the cocainum + mushrooms brah!!  LOL  ;D

Just fucking with you dude!  :)

never took mushrooms though :D
i have too much respect of not being the same anymore after a trip
i tend to be scard pretty fast, i really think i only would see monsters and shit on a trip that's why i never tried it

best experience i ever had was a mix of speed/koka/mdma and alcohol, after partying and fucking ->weed and nicotine all the way through of course
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 24, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
For the dream fliers here, do you have to flap your arms, or do you just think yourself up in the air?

I can fly sometimes in my dreams but I always seem to only be able to go about a block and then crash down. No joke

Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: kiwiol on November 24, 2011, 12:29:07 PM
For the dream fliers here, do you have to flap your arms, or do you just think yourself up in the air?

I have these at least 2-3 times a week without fail, some of them lucid. Doubt it's the same for everyone, but in my case, it's like jumping on to a platform that's a few inches higher than where you're standing - just like you leap, you can simply take off the ground or look at some point in space above or maybe the top of a building and then simply elevate to there.

Controlling the flight is more tricky and I've read a lot of people saying they slow down and/or get very close to the ground towards the end, but if you can control it, you don't do anything - you just see where you want to go and you get there. Too bad you can't do that IRL, lol.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Ugly on November 24, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
I have these at least 2-3 times a week without fail, some of them lucid. Doubt it's the same for everyone, but in my case, it's like jumping on to a platform that's a few inches higher than where you're standing - just like you leap, you can simply take off the ground or look at some point in space above or maybe the top of a building and then simply elevate to there.

Controlling the flight is more tricky and I've read a lot of people saying they slow down and/or get very close to the ground towards the end, losing altitude, but if you can control it, you don't do anything - you just see where you want to go and you get there. Too bad you can't do that IRL, lol.

I can fly, but I have to pump my arms like wings to get up and stay up. If I stop flapping, I come crashing down.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
best experience i ever had was a mix of speed/koka/mdma and alcohol, after partying and fucking ->weed and nicotine all the way through of course
Sounds like a light lunch for me back in the day!  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:36:41 PM
I never have dreams of flying,only falling. 

Falling must be a form of symbolism for losers.  :(
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Ugly on November 24, 2011, 12:38:42 PM
I never have dreams of flying,only falling. 

Falling must be a form of symbolism for losers.  :(

We all have the falling dreams, I think. You've got lots of company, Wes.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 12:42:52 PM
We all have the falling dreams, I think. You've got lots of company, Wes.
That`s reassuring,I`m hanging out with a bunch of losers!  LOL  ;D

Anyone ever hit the ground in falling dreams?

I never did,they say if you do,you`ll die........who exactly is "they" ?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Ugly on November 24, 2011, 12:45:26 PM
I hit the ground all the time. It ain't pretty, but I'm still here.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: kiwiol on November 24, 2011, 12:47:59 PM
I can fly, but I have to pump my arms like wings to get up and stay up. If I stop flapping, I come crashing down.

Haha sounds like too much work, even for in a dream ;D

Even more weird is when sometimes I get sequel dreams - I'll have a dream where I do something in a certain setting which I'll remember afterwards after I wake up and then a few days or sometimes even weeks or months later, it will be the exact same setting and me resuming a conversation or completing a task I set out to do in the original one, lol. Don't have too many of those and it's possible I'm just connecting random flashes of memory, but it's freaky all the same.

If you could capture your dreams and are able to play them like video clips, it would be far more entertaining than nearly all of the stuff you can find online, lol.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 24, 2011, 12:48:53 PM
Anyone ever have recurring dreams of your teeth falling out? I've been told it represents OCD's.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
i just fall :(



@ wes

haha it's enough buddy i think 3-4 gramms was my maximum for one night
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 12:50:27 PM
Anyone ever have recurring dreams of your teeth falling out? I've been told it represents OCD's.

OCDs?

i have that often! also i dream that my jaw breaks!! and i often dream that i crash with my car! i can't control it anymore and the car just rushes into another or something else
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: kiwiol on November 24, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
I`ve also had it a few times in my life. So strong to where you not only feel a presence there but I see a dark ora. Everytime its happened the very next day someone close to me would die or some seriously bad shit/life changes shit would happen. first time was when I was 7 years old and last time about 3 years ago.
I just chalked it up to TRIPPY shit that cant be explained in this life time.

Sounds like something out of The Mothman Prophecies.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: lovemonkey on November 24, 2011, 03:03:09 PM
OCDs?

i have that often! also i dream that my jaw breaks!! and i often dream that i crash with my car! i can't control it anymore and the car just rushes into another or something else

Oh no! That poor BMW with tinted windows!!
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 24, 2011, 03:16:22 PM
Haha sounds like too much work, even for in a dream ;D

Even more weird is when sometimes I get sequel dreams - I'll have a dream where I do something in a certain setting which I'll remember afterwards after I wake up and then a few days or sometimes even weeks or months later, it will be the exact same setting and me resuming a conversation or completing a task I set out to do in the original one, lol. Don't have too many of those and it's possible I'm just connecting random flashes of memory, but it's freaky all the same.

If you could capture your dreams and are able to play them like video clips, it would be far more entertaining than nearly all of the stuff you can find online, lol.
If you start dreaming in mini-series instead of sequels,seek help immediately bro!  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: greeneyes on November 24, 2011, 03:25:10 PM
I've never tried this shit but my dreams are always entertaining.
I dream fucking a girl , follow a girl and beg her to give me a blowjob , fighting alot of people and running after that ( running so slow and  i quit the dream before they catch me )
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 05:04:05 PM
Oh no! That poor BMW with tinted windows!!



hahaha no tinted windows buddy
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: bradistani on November 24, 2011, 05:19:41 PM
That`s reassuring,I`m hanging out with a bunch of losers!  LOL  ;D

Anyone ever hit the ground in falling dreams?

I never did,they say if you do,you`ll die........who exactly is "they" ?

i've hit the ground in a dream. i obviously didnnt die , but it started of what was to be, my fist ever sleep paralysis episode
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
you can't die in dreams! you also cant see persons you've never seen before in life!
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 24, 2011, 05:27:59 PM
Has anyone ever looked into a mirror in a dream? Some say it's a scary experience.  ;D

I just fell 5 stories to the ground in my dream this night, just scratched myself. No biggie. I have heard that you can really die in your dream, ironneck.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: bradistani on November 24, 2011, 05:32:29 PM
you can't die in dreams! you also cant see persons you've never seen before in life!

nah, thats wrong. i've seen millions of people that i've never seen before. the real strange one is when you recognise a stranger as somebody you know.. a family member or even yourself !
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: andreisdaman on November 24, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
Use ZMA..I swear to God it works......you will begin to have vivid dreams where your senses are heightened....I had a dream I was fighting a fire-breathing alien on Mars and the colors in the dream were really vivid and I could actually feel the heat of the fire in my dream..No shit
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 24, 2011, 05:45:56 PM
nah, thats wrong. i've seen millions of people that i've never seen before. the real strange one is when you recognise a stranger as somebody you know.. a family member or even yourself !

you have seen them but you don#t know anymore!

and dying is not possible in dreams they say, you wake up before that happens

i often looked in the mirror in dreams, nothing scary there but then again i'm a handsome fucker :D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: kiwiol on November 24, 2011, 05:51:01 PM
If you start dreaming in mini-series instead of sequels,seek help immediately bro!  ;D

That would be the least of my problems, lol.

you have seen them but you don#t know anymore!

Not always. Brad's right, you do see faces, places and even architecture you've never seen before and some of which don't even exist in reality. Yet somehow they feel familiar.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: bradistani on November 24, 2011, 05:53:59 PM
Use ZMA..I swear to God it works......you will begin to have vivid dreams where your senses are heightened....I had a dream I was fighting a fire-breathing alien on Mars and the colors in the dream were really vivid and I could actually feel the heat of the fire in my dream..No shit

yes, zma is fucking awesome for having really vivid, crazy insane dreams. seems to give me a reaaly restful sleep too.


you have seen them but you don#t know anymore!

and dying is not possible in dreams they say, you wake up before that happens

i often looked in the mirror in dreams, nothing scary there but then again i'm a handsome fucker :D


the so called experts tell us a l;ot of shit about how our dreams are supposed to work. i once heard/read that we're not meant to be able to dream in colour. which i often do actually.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 25, 2011, 02:28:27 AM
yes, zma is fucking awesome for having really vivid, crazy insane dreams. seems to give me a reaaly restful sleep too.



the so called experts tell us a l;ot of shit about how our dreams are supposed to work. i once heard/read that we're not meant to be able to dream in colour. which i often do actually.

how do you mean in color? i always dream in color?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: andreisdaman on November 25, 2011, 09:35:18 AM
Actually scientists say that the sleep paralysis thing is basically your mind wakes up before your body does....while sleeping, we are paralyzed so that we can get a good nights sleep...if we weren't then we would constantly be moving around and waking up and would be tired all the time from not getting the deep REM sleep we need in order for our brain and body to repair itself.....

something goes wrong and we awake while the paralysis is still in effect....which leads to us not being able to move and a brief onset of panic.....when I was a kid we were told that this phenomenon was "a witch sitting on our back or stomach"..this enduces even more panic

I once was sleeping at work in a secluded room and I was dreaming that I was in a slaughterhouse where cows were being killed.....I could hear the mooing going on as the cows were crying out in pain....I was scared shitless and woke up out of the dream very quickly....

when I came out of the dream I had my eyes open and could STILL hear the mooing very loudly for about a second or two even though now my eyes were open....holy shit...what an experience...but it never happened to me again....
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 25, 2011, 09:49:44 AM
That would be the least of my problems, lol.

Not always. Brad's right, you do see faces, places and even architecture you've never seen before and some of which don't even exist in reality. Yet somehow they feel familiar.

Whats interesting is we see so many people in our lifetime subconsciously that they all would look like strangers if they ever talked to us. TV alone brings so many faces into our brains. Walking in a football stadium or down town in a large city. All of these faces that we don't really know we're looking at get put into our memory bank in some way. And that doesn't even count the amount of look-a-likes that walk the planet that we see.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: kiwiol on November 25, 2011, 10:03:17 AM
Whats interesting is we see so many people in our lifetime subconsciously that they all would look like strangers if they ever talked to us. TV alone brings so many faces into our brains. Walking in a football stadium or down town in a large city. All of these faces that we don't really know we're looking at get put into our memory bank in some way. And that doesn't even count the amount of look-a-likes that walk the planet that we see.

You're right and I've considered that. Still, wouldn't say it's impossible to see someone or something you've never come across IRL even for a brief flash of time that you might have registered subconsciously but could never recollect knowingly.

Would be interesting to compare (trends in) dreams between this generation and the old one, which had no internet and so, didn't get exposed to the amount of images and information we get bombarded with everyday.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 25, 2011, 10:05:50 AM
You're right and I've considered that. Still, wouldn't say it's impossible to see someone or something you've never come across IRL even for a brief flash of time that you might have registered subconsciously but could never recollect knowingly.

Would be interesting to compare (trends in) dreams between this generation and the old one, which had no internet and so, didn't get exposed to the amount of images and information we get bombarded with everyday.

Translation: the dreams of yesteryear didn't include MackDonalds employees beating people, OWS retards or women being thrown from 2nd story windows for gratification.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
This thread is getting deep............kinda` scary yet mystical at the same time.

(http://theflickcast.com/wp-content/uploads//twilight_zone.jpg)
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: bradistani on November 25, 2011, 10:20:23 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/525uZ.jpg)
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: kiwiol on November 25, 2011, 10:27:30 AM
Translation: the dreams of yesteryear didn't include MackDonalds employees beating people, OWS retards or women being thrown from 2nd story windows for gratification.

Yes, I'll admit it's highly possible that the older generation wouldn't have been mumbling, "Dorian's better, Ronnie's got no calves" or "What's your exact location?" in their sleep.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 10:30:38 AM
I`ve been debating whether I should post this or not....firstly,I am not a homosexual but when I had that sleep paralysis,it felt as though an invisible man was holding me down while laying on top of me......a big heavy man at that.

Couldn`t move a muscle or yell out at all,until I finally strained my ass off and sat straight up yelling "get off me" !!  ;)

Well anyweay,(no homo),on one of the four occasions that this happened to me,I was lying on my stomach,felt the same heavy weight,couldn`t move or speak,but in this case,it felt as though the "invisible force" was grinding on me........kinda` like humping or gyrating on my ass area.

NO HOMO I SAID.

Not funny when it`s happening..........no I didn`t get aroused.

Go ahead,you bastards,I`m ready for it!!  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 10:53:22 AM
<  *peeks back in to see the onslaught of slings and arrows* >
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 25, 2011, 11:02:02 AM
yeah religious people tend to think its a demon or somethign
in turkish they call it karabasan "black pusher" haha fucking morons


i also have often that i wake up and i see a person or a monster in front of me!!! after seconds when i rub my eye it disappears

I get this all the time...a huge, monstrous black wolf with flame red eyes is always sitting at the foot of my bed staring at me when im able to snap myself out of  sleep paralysis ..i get it a LOT...at least every three months.

It sounds trippy and weird, but sometimes I feel like something is trying to posses me, and it's getting stronger and closer as time goes by.

 I know...horseshit..LOL  but when you finally snap out of a horrible nightmare and you can't wake up...crazy shit goes through your head  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 11:05:33 AM
Slightly off topic,but if you haven`t seen the movie "The Entity" rent it ASAP.

It`s a flick from the 80`s about a chick who gets harrased by an unseen entity........awesome flick that I know most of you guys would love.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: lovemonkey on November 25, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
I get this all the time...a huge, monstrous black wolf with flame red eyes is always sitting at the foot of my bed staring at me when im able to snap myself out of  sleep paralysis ..i get it a LOT...at least every three months.

It sounds trippy and weird, but sometimes I feel like something is trying to posses me, and it's getting stronger and closer as time goes by.

 I know...horseshit..LOL  but when you finally snap out of a horrible nightmare and you can't wake up...crazy shit goes through your head  ;D

This is actually very common and a lot of people/scientists believe that this is where most demon myths stem from and in recent times also stories of alien abductions. The same phenomena has been described for hundreds of years... a beast/creature of smaller stature standing by your bed or sitting on you and a lot people also get the sensation of levitating and slowly drifting through their bedroom walls.

Since the early fifties, the beasts in people's sleep paralysis started taking shape of a small gray being with big bug-like eyes.. could it be a coincidence that this is about the exact time the exact same kind of alien started making its appearance in comics and science fiction? hmmm  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 25, 2011, 04:10:18 PM
I`ve been debating whether I should post this or not....firstly,I am not a homosexual but when I had that sleep paralysis,it felt as though an invisible man was holding me down while laying on top of me......a big heavy man at that.

Couldn't read any further, I respect you too much.... :-X





 ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Raymondo on November 25, 2011, 04:13:35 PM
I get this all the time...a huge, monstrous black wolf with flame red eyes is always sitting at the foot of my bed staring at me when im able to snap myself out of  sleep paralysis ..i get it a LOT...at least every three months.

It sounds trippy and weird, but sometimes I feel like something is trying to posses me, and it's getting stronger and closer as time goes by.

 I know...horseshit..LOL  but when you finally snap out of a horrible nightmare and you can't wake up...crazy shit goes through your head  ;D

It's not horseshit.. not at all. Actually it's serious and there's a bit of a psychological explanation there.

Something tells me you know what it is, too.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:17:30 PM
Couldn't read any further, I respect you too much.... :-X





 ;D
I feel ashamed for posting that...wtf was I thinking ?  LOL ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
I think this is the little fucker who tried to buttfuck me!  LOL  ;D

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/08/sleep-paralysis.jpg)
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Swlabr on November 25, 2011, 04:19:35 PM
;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 25, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
It's not horseshit.. not at all. Actually it's serious and there's a bit of a psychological explanation there.

Something tells me you know what it is, too.

Please elaborate
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Raymondo on November 25, 2011, 04:21:02 PM
I think this is the little fucker who tried to buttfuck me!  LOL  ;D

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/08/sleep-paralysis.jpg)

LOL

wes, do you look like that when you sleep?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 04:25:16 PM
LOL

wes, do you look like that when you sleep?
NO  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Raymondo on November 25, 2011, 04:46:04 PM
Please elaborate

It's not something you don't already know, I can tell by the way you've written about it. Your mind chose a certain symbol (a "big, dark, monstrous" wolf) and you've described your response to it in very exact terms (the feeling that it might possess you and it grows stronger and closer as time passes). In psychology, this is called a "totem" and it symbolises something of personal meaning to you.

Different schools give different interpretations.

A psychoanalyst would start talking about your mummy and daddy (by which they mean an authority figure) and that as you age, you turn more like them which is a cause for your dreams, as a certain part of you resists this process due to unresolved conflicts towards those authority figures.

A cognitive-behaviourist would interpret your totem as a symbol for a certain type of behaviour towards others which you want to but feel that you cannot adequately control and it is the guilt over that which is causing your dreams.

A narrative therapist would tell you that you're thinking your life and environment are taking certain directions that scare you and you feel that you cannot control them easily.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Jussup on November 25, 2011, 05:21:48 PM

I rarely post, but here I can’t help. You guys open a thread about lucid dreaming and in the very same thread talk about dream analysis and interpretation. Lucid Dreaming exists to leave intellectual interpretation behind, it is about direct experience (and hence one of the most powerful psychotherapies).
If you would like to know what the creature at your bed means, go fucking ask it. Face your fears, look into its eyes, engage in conversation, touch it, whatever and you will see it transform into what part of yourself it really represents.

Overcoming fear is really important, since the dreaming brain is set up for these emotions supposedly due to overly active amygdala.
So it is good to be prepared and have a mental technique  to deal with the anxiety.
 I use  Frank Herbert’s litany against fear:
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 05:27:31 PM
It's not something you don't already know, I can tell by the way you've written about it. Your mind chose a certain symbol (a "big, dark, monstrous" wolf) and you've described your response to it in very exact terms (the feeling that it might possess you and it grows stronger and closer as time passes). In psychology, this is called a "totem" and it symbolises something of personal meaning to you.

Different schools give different interpretations.

A psychoanalyst would start talking about your mummy and daddy (by which they mean an authority figure) and that as you age, you turn more like them which is a cause for your dreams, as a certain part of you resists this process due to unresolved conflicts towards those authority figures.

A cognitive-behaviourist would interpret your totem as a symbol for a certain type of behaviour towards others which you want to but feel that you cannot adequately control and it is the guilt over that which is causing your dreams.

A narrative therapist would tell you that you're thinking your life and environment are taking certain directions that scare you and you feel that you cannot control them easily.
Can I set up an appointment with you next week please....my shrink is out of town ???

















;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 05:28:54 PM
I rarely post, but here I can’t help. You guys open a thread about lucid dreaming and in the very same thread talk about dream analysis and interpretation. Lucid Dreaming exists to leave intellectual interpretation behind, it is about direct experience (and hence one of the most powerful psychotherapies).
If you would like to know what the creature at your bed means, go fucking ask it. Face your fears, look into its eyes, engage in conversation, touch it, whatever and you will see it transform into what part of yourself it really represents.

Overcoming fear is really important, since the dreaming brain is set up for these emotions supposedly due to overly active amygdala.
So it is good to be prepared and have a mental technique  to deal with the anxiety.
 I use  Frank Herbert’s litany against fear:
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

Like I said earlier....this thread is heavy.......wish I still smoked herb.  :)
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Raymondo on November 25, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
I rarely post, but here I can’t help. You guys open a thread about lucid dreaming and in the very same thread talk about dream analysis and interpretation. Lucid Dreaming exists to leave intellectual interpretation behind, it is about direct experience (and hence one of the most powerful psychotherapies).
If you would like to know what the creature at your bed means, go fucking ask it. Face your fears, look into its eyes, engage in conversation, touch it, whatever and you will see it transform into what part of yourself it really represents.

Overcoming fear is really important, since the dreaming brain is set up for these emotions supposedly due to overly active amygdala.
So it is good to be prepared and have a mental technique  to deal with the anxiety.
 I use  Frank Herbert’s litany against fear:
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.


Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Raymondo on November 25, 2011, 05:31:40 PM
Can I set up an appointment with you next week please....my shrink is out of town ???

















;D

no problem, wes. I'm sure you've got some interesting stories to tell  :D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 05:32:09 PM
no problem, wes. I'm sure you've got some interesting stories to tell  :D
They`d probably fry your brain!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 25, 2011, 05:40:06 PM
Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 25, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.

Most lurkers have a fear of posting ;D
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: BIG ACH on November 25, 2011, 09:56:37 PM
I think this is the little fucker who tried to buttfuck me!  LOL  ;D

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2009/08/sleep-paralysis.jpg)

I dunno what it is about it, but that picture freaks the shit out of me, and I've had scary dreams after seeing that picture and about it.

I've never had that awake paralysis, but I've had some very vivid dreams, especially when I was taking sleep aids like GABBA, some nightmares seemed so so so real, I've also had this reoccurring dream where I'm stuck in my childhood  apartment with a wild animal trying to kill me, one time its a tiger, one time a lion, once a raptor, once a T Rex, once a bear, once a wild bull, etc  I wake up in a freaking pool of sweat!  Whack!
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Marty Champions on November 25, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
what you dream is a reflection of the lessons from choices you must learn. lessons in life or lessons in dream world. you havent learned to submit to the wolf or to claim your innocensce. you just cower in fear at his presence thus your fear overrides your intellectual abilities to get out of the situation immediatley, your level of intellecutally only acheives a delayed response.

same with people getting sleep paralysis

if you carry guilt you will not break away from this soon enough, it will be a delayed response. When you plead for mercy and have made the right choices in the real world---into the dream state this will transfer and you will have everything already worked out in your mind in the dream state and only have good dreams...then the occasional guilt met with fear test in the form of night terror may occur but it wont be prolonged because you already truly lived and beleive you are living a rhiteous path, not just live right for yourself or family but all living things and animals and the earth you live on from here on out, all the activities must be done on this earth in good faith that it will work out for everyone and everything in order for your head to be "all worked out"
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: ironneck on November 26, 2011, 05:49:05 AM
im surprised that so many of you have that same shit happening!

my grandmother told me she saw creatures and became depressive after that, but shes too old and not smart enough to know that its only that shit we're talking about, she thinks it was real!


what i notice is that i have that much more often when i take ephedrine or other drugs! maybe this is why so many bodybuilders have that?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Jussup on November 26, 2011, 07:43:51 AM
Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.

Because I felt you could need a little help with your fuzzy dream theories and obvious lack of experience (as regards dreaming and mantras).

Most lurkers have a fear of posting ;D
I only post when I have something meaningful to contribute and deep knowledge about the topic being discussed. Unfortunately this excludes the majority of Getbig topics like which supermodel should I bang tonight, "where to invest 20 millions" or "am I gay because..", but I still enjoy reading them.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: NotMrAverage on November 26, 2011, 08:18:15 AM
I have epilepticus and have one medicine called "lamotrigin". It will make you lucid dreaming like a fuck. Awesome with sex dreams. Now go get some!
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Raymondo on November 26, 2011, 08:43:43 AM
Because I felt you could need a little help with your fuzzy dream theories and obvious lack of experience (as regards dreaming and mantras).
I only post when I have something meaningful to contribute and deep knowledge about the topic being discussed. Unfortunately this excludes the majority of Getbig topics like which supermodel should I bang tonight, "where to invest 20 millions" or "am I gay because..", but I still enjoy reading them.

Well them, aren't we lucky to have an astral projecting, Carlos Castaneda reading, Dune quoting gentleman like you.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 26, 2011, 03:37:22 PM
For all the deep thinkers and Lucid dreamers who haven't seen the movie Vanilla Sky. Its worth a watch.

Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: wes on November 26, 2011, 03:40:20 PM
Well them, aren't we lucky to have an astral projecting, Carlos Castaneda reading, Dune quoting gentleman like you.
Fucking hilarious.  ;D
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: ironneck on November 27, 2011, 05:29:23 AM
u guys agree that the drugs force sleep paralyzis?
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 27, 2011, 09:15:23 AM
wer all are seeing the same guy?

Yes
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Jizzacked on November 27, 2011, 10:15:32 AM
it's all just a freaky dream





Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: hematocritter on November 27, 2011, 10:39:03 AM
I suffer from sleep paralysis very badly.
I get it 2-4x each night minimum. I never get used to it, I still fight it and struggle, sort of panic to start moving again.
I can't sleep next to anyone because once my movement actually does come back, I violently awake.
The doctor says I barely produce much GABA, it is a major inhibitory neurotransmitter, which leads to my list of mental
health issues and sleep problems :) The joy of being a psychopath
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Raymondo on November 27, 2011, 12:02:23 PM
I suffer from sleep paralysis very badly.
I get it 2-4x each night minimum. I never get used to it, I still fight it and struggle, sort of panic to start moving again.
I can't sleep next to anyone because once my movement actually does come back, I violently awake.
The doctor says I barely produce much GABA, it is a major inhibitory neurotransmitter, which leads to my list of mental
health issues and sleep problems :) The joy of being a psychopath

you produce much GABBA?

Wouldn't that make you relaxed and lethargic instead of a psycho?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: hematocritter on November 27, 2011, 12:55:25 PM
By "barely produce much", I meant "barely produce any".

I should have chosen better words.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Raymondo on November 27, 2011, 01:08:03 PM
By "barely produce much", I meant "barely produce any".

I should have chosen better words.

Has he given you benzos?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Spicoli on November 27, 2011, 01:15:27 PM
u guys agree that the drugs force sleep paralyzis?

Not for me. started years and years before I ever touched any drug.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: hematocritter on November 27, 2011, 02:00:24 PM
Has he given you benzos?

Yea, I have a ridiculous tolerance to them without even having much experience with them.
Apparently they only increase GABA-ergic transmission, so if your GABA levels are low, they don't have much to work with.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: ironneck on November 27, 2011, 02:38:38 PM
How is that even possible.dat we see the same creature
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: devilsmile on November 27, 2011, 02:44:08 PM
I've had a dream that lasted for a liftetime, then I woke up and 4 minutes had passed, so I guess... but I think it's natural, no biggie.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Raymondo on November 27, 2011, 02:51:41 PM
Yea, I have a ridiculous tolerance to them without even having much experience with them.
Apparently they only increase GABA-ergic transmission, so if your GABA levels are low, they don't have much to work with.

Be careful with them, withdrawal can be a bitch.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: hematocritter on November 27, 2011, 03:35:32 PM
Thanks, but I barely use them since they are not very effective for me if used frequently.
I take 1mg of Xanax 1 or 2 times per week, tops.
I can't take them consecutive days or they just flat out won't work.

My doctor and I discussed it at length and are trying other treatment options. He is a pleasure
to work with and I was very happy when he didn't jump to the traditional SSRI bullshit approach
to absolutely every single mental health issue.
He actually agreed that GHB was most effective for people like myself, when it was legal of course.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Raymondo on November 27, 2011, 03:48:05 PM
Thanks, but I barely use them since they are not very effective for me if used frequently.
I take 1mg of Xanax 1 or 2 times per week, tops.
I can't take them consecutive days or they just flat out won't work.

My doctor and I discussed it at length and are trying other treatment options. He is a pleasure
to work with and I was very happy when he didn't jump to the traditional SSRI bullshit approach
to absolutely every single mental health issue.
He actually agreed that GHB was most effective for people like myself, when it was legal of course.

It seems you have a sensible doctor, that alone is invaluable.
Has he told you about a med called Neurontin (generic: Gabapentin)? Might be worth a shot.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: hematocritter on November 27, 2011, 05:09:19 PM
yep, tried it already. It worked for a few days, then stopped. I hear that is very common though.
Currently on Lamictal, has worked better than anything thus far. We'll see how long it lasts.
We will be adding Gabitril in one month, I am excited to try it.
Title: Re: lucid dreaming
Post by: Marty Champions on November 27, 2011, 07:06:28 PM
what you dream is a reflection of the lessons from choices you must learn. lessons in life or lessons in dream world. you havent learned to submit to the wolf or to claim your innocensce. you just cower in fear at his presence thus your fear overrides your intellectual abilities to get out of the situation immediatley, your level of intellecutally only acheives a delayed response.

same with people getting sleep paralysis

if you carry guilt you will not break away from this soon enough, it will be a delayed response. When you plead for mercy and have made the right choices in the real world---into the dream state this will transfer and you will have everything already worked out in your mind in the dream state and only have good dreams...then the occasional guilt met with fear test in the form of night terror may occur but it wont be prolonged because you already truly lived and beleive you are living a rhiteous path, not just live right for yourself or family but all living things and animals and the earth you live on from here on out, all the activities must be done on this earth in good faith that it will work out for everyone and everything in order for your head to be "all worked out"

the answer
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 27, 2011, 09:21:58 PM
you produce much GABBA?

Wouldn't that make you relaxed and lethargic instead of a psycho?

Rarely produce much
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: gh15 on November 27, 2011, 09:28:16 PM
legit hgh will give you heavy dreaming,,very vivid dream ,, at time! at time! lucid IT DEPEND ON YOUR BRAIN ,, on hgh you will wake after 4 hour think you slept 10 hours and feel like it!

lucid dream is really when you know you are dreaming,, it is more of narcotic thing but....hgh give you some serious serious vivid dream out of this world very memorable and if not memorble when you are in the dream it is all very V I V I D ,, lucd have more to do with nrcotic and the human brain

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: Max B on November 27, 2011, 10:17:27 PM
^ spot on.  Like always
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: ironneck on November 28, 2011, 01:01:40 AM
I want this hgh
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?
Post by: NotMrAverage on November 28, 2011, 01:22:12 AM
I don´t get much effect from benzos either. I have alot of sleeping trouble and have gotten a bunch prescribed to me. It´s like the other guy said, take them for 2 days in a row or whatever and there is no effect. With a few beers they can be fun, but you have to look your door and hide your carkeys before  ;)