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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The_Leafy_Bug on November 23, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
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My hands got sweaty and the straps kept slipping so i just dropped it.
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need a longer pause and squeeze at the top of the shrug
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big dude, you look much bigger in a gym setting than i expected you to, you look much bigger and more mature than your age.
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need a longer pause and squeeze at the top of the shrug
I usually do. My hands were slick. I was trying to get to 10 before i couldn't hold on anymore.
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need a longer pause and squeeze at the top of the shrug
nothing wrong with that form, his ROM is much bigger than most people i see doing shrugs.
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big dude, you look much bigger in a gym setting than i expected you to, you look much bigger and more mature than your age.
Nahh im still a twink. Im staying leaner this year though.
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Nahh im still a twink. Im staying leaner this year though.
whenever i see someones video i compare them to the equipment because thats the only way you can really get a true comaprison of what their size is like and you look big next to the equipment, both tall and thick, just my .02 cents though.
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Here is another. I would have liked to go deeper but i just took my arms parallel to the ground. I usually do just 3 plates my last set and ive gotten up to 10 good reps with that before. 3 plates and a 5 was the best i had done until i got this home and realized i put a 10 on instead. I only got 4 reps. He had to spot me on the last 2 but you only see 2 reps alone.
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3 plate shoulder press is always impressive, smith or barbell.
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Leafy did you take a hit of coke before u shoulder pressed.
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Leafy did you take a hit of coke before u shoulder pressed.
No but i can name an Arkansas competitor that did that kind of stuff.
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Are you training on Turkey Day bro? I have to do legs tomorrow.
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Are you training on Turkey Day bro? I have to do legs tomorrow.
I might but it is just to spend some time with Donald Brook. Nothing serious. I usually take Thursdays off. The muscles may have left the midget but the intensity still remains. I won't be visiting family since the are all the way across state.
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I might but it is just to spend some time with Donald Brook. Nothing serious. I usually take Thursdays off. The muscles may have left the midget but the intensity still remains. I won't be visiting family since the are all the way across state.
I bet Brookers has some wonderful Oats Stuffing, Walden Farms Pudding, a can of Green Beans and some low fat Deli Turkey Lunch Meat waiting for your Thanksgiving Feast tomorrow.
Jezebelle and I are probably just going to yard work and I will finish painting the deck and then train legs. Perhaps I will beat Daddywaddy up on Xbox. haha
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I bet Brookers has some wonderful Oats Stuffing, Walden Farms Pudding, a can of Green Beans and some low fat Deli Turkey Lunch Meat waiting for your Thanksgiving Feast tomorrow.
Jezebelle and I are probably just going to yard work and I will finish painting the deck and then train legs. Perhaps I will beat Daddywaddy up on Xbox. haha
I hear you are having trouble with his quick hands :D
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I hear you are having trouble with his quick hands :D
Well, I have improved greatly, but a lot of that game rides on pure chance. Its totally random when you get a knockout punch or one that stuns you, so its not really totally skill per se. Hes very good though and probably one of the best I have played on there so far.
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Leafy did you take a hit of coke before u shoulder pressed.
;D
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What are the competition plans for this year?
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What are the competition plans for this year?
Not quite sure yet. It is actually pointless for me to compete next year but i may still do it. Nursing school will be coming fast and thats my ticket out of this shit hole.
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Not quite sure yet. It is actually pointless for me to compete next year but i may still do it. Nursing school will be coming fast and thats my ticket out of this shit hole.
Do you think you will stay in AR or move to a different state? You could easily win all of the shows in NC.
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Do you think you will stay in AR or move to a different state? You could easily win all of the shows in NC.
Im getting the hell out of here asap.
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300 pound shoulder press, sure, that's not bad. but that is a 300 pound shoulder shrug
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Stop lifting so heavy.
Your frame wont support it for long. You have tiny joints. Lift accordingly.
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300 pound shoulder press, sure, that's not bad. but that is a 300 pound shoulder shrug
I am confused sir. I see no shurgging.
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TA, Give him time and he'll be winning shows in any state. And then on to conquer the world ... or sumting.
Best potential bodybuilder I've seen in the past few years... In fact.. a lot of the past few years.
Good luck in nursing school, Leaf. Will you be keeping us up to date while in school?
Got a niece who is a nurse here in Cal. and I think she is making over $100,000 and possibly $120,000 according to other nosey family members.
Is that possible. Leaf?
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RETRACTION:
According to a reliable website, nurses make the following income:
Nursing Care Facility $42,590
Hospital $40,250
Physician's Office $37,480
Home Health Care Services $42,550
Community Care Elderly Facility $42,270
Some say you can double+ those figures with overtime.
Sorry for the intrusion, Leaf.
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TA, Give him time and he'll be winning shows in any state. And then on to conquer the world ... or sumting.
Best potential bodybuilder I've seen in the past few years... In fact.. a lot of the past few years.
Good luck in nursing school, Leaf. Will you be keeping us up to date while in school?
Got a niece who is a nurse here in Cal. and I think she is making over $100,000 and possibly $120,000 according to other nosey family members.
Is that possible. Leaf?
Hi Leafy
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Hi, Swablr
But... Awe, never mind!
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dude's posting videos of himself working out now... ::)
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RETRACTION:
According to a reliable website, nurses make the following income:
Nursing Care Facility $42,590
Hospital $40,250
Physician's Office $37,480
Home Health Care Services $42,550
Community Care Elderly Facility $42,270
Some say you can double+ those figures with overtime.
Sorry for the intrusion, Leaf.
Registered Nurses make ALOT more then that.
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Is that on a smith or barbell?
I might add them in on my shoulder day if it is seated barbell after standing BB and seated DB!
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Leafy has the best potential to turn pro than almost anyone I`ve ever seen,as long as he keeps his lines and grows into his frame.
No bloofyness allowed Leafy! :)
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I am confused sir. I see no shurgging.
hah, ok i just saw the last video. my mistake :-\
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RETRACTION:
According to a reliable website, nurses make the following income:
Nursing Care Facility $42,590
Hospital $40,250
Physician's Office $37,480
Home Health Care Services $42,550
Community Care Elderly Facility $42,270
Some say you can double+ those figures with overtime.
Sorry for the intrusion, Leaf.
hahah, you're dreaming. Registered nurses can make 80K+ a year and a Nurse Practicioner can make 100K+ a year. My friend has her BA in nursing and she started off with 75K a year. Your stats are CLEARLY wrong.
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Nursing school will be coming fast and thats my ticket out of this shit hole.
I did the same and just to motivate you, it works. You'll get out of it !!! Nursing can be boring sometimes to learn with the ''caring'' theme they emphasize on in school, but when you're at the hospital it's a lot of fun. Lots of pharmacology, nutrition, orthopedics/skeletal-muscular system, etc...
I know your buddy is now a nurse, but if you have any question it will be my pleasure to help.
According to a reliable website, nurses make the following income:
Nursing Care Facility $42,590
Hospital $40,250
Physician's Office $37,480
Home Health Care Services $42,550
Community Care Elderly Facility $42,270
Some say you can double+ those figures with overtime.
Sorry for the intrusion, Leaf.
Yess exactly, with overtime and bonus depending of the department, if you work on a specialized unit, if you work at night, etc...
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From the clips I saw 315 seated barbell would crush Leafy.
Nice try though?
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RETRACTION:
According to a reliable website, nurses make the following income:
Nursing Care Facility $42,590
Hospital $40,250
Physician's Office $37,480
Home Health Care Services $42,550
Community Care Elderly Facility $42,270
Some say you can double+ those figures with overtime.
Sorry for the intrusion, Leaf.
nurse in my family makes 150k a year. if you go into some kind of nursing specialty you can make tons of dough
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My hands got sweaty and the straps kept slipping so i just dropped it.
Congratulations, you train like a complete idiot...
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Stop lifting so heavy.
Your frame wont support it for long. You have tiny joints. Lift accordingly.
X2
You'll pay for it if you dont. God damn you'll pay
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My hands got sweaty and the straps kept slipping so i just dropped it.
Hint: it's not a shoulder press you're performing.
Also, you're doing it on a squat rack. You might be blocking someone who wants to... squat.
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RETRACTION:
According to a reliable website, nurses make the following income:
Nursing Care Facility $42,590
Hospital $40,250
Physician's Office $37,480
Home Health Care Services $42,550
Community Care Elderly Facility $42,270
Some say you can double+ those figures with overtime.
Sorry for the intrusion, Leaf.
nursing in hospital nj you better double that figure,,,
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in nyc nurses start around 60k/yr i think, or maybe more, if u get an advanced degree u make 100k+
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Registered Nurses make ALOT more then that.
i agree, i knew one and believe me this bitch was no genius and she was making at least 30 bucks an hour.
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Thanks to all for the yearly nursing figures. I think all this input will encourage Leaf to pursue it just as much as he has pursued his bodybuilding endeavors.
Is it possible to pursue both successfully?
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Thanks to all for the yearly nursing figures. I think all this input will encourage Leaf to pursue it just as much as he has pursued his bodybuilding endeavors.
Is it possible to pursue both successfully?
absolutely, check out the bio of an NPC guy named Brett Becker.
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Why would a guy with huge traps do shrugs? Leafy's traps are already too big and affect his appearance. Have a look at Frank Zane and try to look something close to that.
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Why would a guy with huge traps do shrugs? Leafy's traps are already too big and affect his appearance. Have a look at Frank Zane and try to look something close to that.
because huge traps look awesome and make the physique look powerful.
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vince Basile
stfu
thank you
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Why would a guy with huge traps do shrugs? Leafy's traps are already too big and affect his appearance. Have a look at Frank Zane and try to look something close to that.
Im sorry, but no traps and a pencil neck do not look impressive.
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here's something for you to watch before you do shoulders again. You can't watch this massive natural bodybuilder doing a set of shoulder presses with 315lbs for reps and not be impressed.
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not a single
legit 315
presser in this
whole group
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My hands got sweaty and the straps kept slipping so i just dropped it.
Lower the weight. You notice how your shrugging way higher on your left side then you are on the right.
Good way to get yourself hurt pal.
Lower the weight and do it right.
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Nahh im still a twink. Im staying leaner this year though.
Brutal... if you add all those "reps" up together, the bar might have actually moved an inch or two! And I won't even comment on your ludicrous form in the shrugs video you posted, except to say if you haven't injured yourself yet you are very, very, very lucky.
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Reps looked easy on the presses. No idea if these inch movements are really useful.
Once saw an interesting training video on the MD website - dude was a powerlifter and said that he did rack pulls with really big weights and that although they wouldn't build strength they were awesome muscle/thickness adders.
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My thoughts on low reps with heavy weights and partial reps, are that they will add power so that on your lighter sets,you can use more weight after a time,also they`ll help strengthen tendons and ligaments.
Personally, I do a full range of motion on everything all the time................ I do half reps on certain movements at the end of a set when full reps are no longer possible,in an effort to extend the set and get a "burn" in the muscle I`m training.
This is not a knock on Dans training, because whatever he`s doing,it`s working as he looks fucking great.
I`d go lighter with a full range of motion myself,but I don`t look anywhere near as good as Dan (Leafy).
If it works,great...........but be careful.
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LIFT AS HEAVY AS YOU CAN IN A RANGE OF MOTION THAT ACTUALLY WORKS YOUR MUSCLE....YOU MAY HAVE SHORT BELLIES, LONG BELLIES. JUST WORK IN THAT RANGE OF MOTION, HEAVY THOUGH. YOU GOTTA BE BREATHING HARD AFTER THE GODDAMN SET AND SWEATING SOON.
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that's one big bug.
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here's something for you to watch before you do shoulders again. You can't watch this massive natural bodybuilder doing a set of shoulder presses with 315lbs for reps and not be impressed.
The only thing I am impressed by is them being creative, the one guy was doing shoulder press while the other guy was doing curls with the same bar, at the same time, wow 8)
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Leaf has unreal genetics and there is strong suspesion that he is the long lost son of Steve Reeves.
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The only thing I am impressed by is them being creative, the one guy was doing shoulder press while the other guy was doing curls with the same bar, at the same time, wow 8)
Ridiculous training...........all ego!! :(
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Full reps are easier sometimes. When i do squats i never do full reps until im doing a heavy heavy set. I short stroke all my bench press movements too.
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Full reps are easier sometimes. When i do squats i never do full reps until im doing a heavy heavy set. I short stroke all my bench press movements too.
if its working fine,,,depending on arm length and normal rom for one's body ,locking out may not be possible,,your building muscle with tension and load.
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if its working fine,,,depending on arm length and normal rom for one's body ,locking out may not be possible,,your building muscle with tension and load.
Agreed. I think locking out is dangerous for joints as well. I am a bodybuilder, not a powerlifter. As long as i'm moving the weight under control that is all that matters. You don't want to lock out with heavy weight. See Jason Huh training videos. These guys flaming me are the same guys doing bench presses to the neck to "build upper pecs" and blowing their shoulders out from lock out movements on bench, etc. I have yet to have a joint related injury. I have hurt my muscles/ tendons before but nothing major.
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Lower the weight. You notice how your shrugging way higher on your left side then you are on the right.
Good way to get yourself hurt pal.
Lower the weight and do it right.
I have a muscular imbalance i am working on. I am well aware of this. I have tried to get massage to loosen up the tighter side. You can see it in my back double bicep earlier on in the year when i was dieting down.
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Agreed. I think locking out is dangerous for joints as well. I am a bodybuilder, not a powerlifter. As long as i'm moving the weight under control that is all that matters. You don't want to lock out with heavy weight. See Jason Huh training videos. These guys flaming me are the same guys doing bench presses to the neck to "build upper pecs" and blowing their shoulders out from lock out movements on bench, etc. I have yet to have a joint related injury. I have hurt my muscles/ tendons before but nothing major.
actually smith machine flat bench to neck pretty good ,,but u have to be careful doing them.
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Leafy lookin sw0lez.
Nice job Bug.
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I can do this for about 6-8 reps as my top set. Not a press as I jerk it a bit but 2 and a half plates anyway
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Made it look easy Goudy.....nice lifting bud. :)
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brutal 1/8 inch of range of motion
:D
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I can do this for about 6-8 reps as my top set. Not a press as I jerk it a bit but 2 and a half plates anyway
wow, youve gotten a lot bigger and stronger you threw that shit aroung like nothing, very impressive.
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I can do this for about 6-8 reps as my top set. Not a press as I jerk it a bit but 2 and a half plates anyway
def one of the stronger shoulder pressers here
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My thoughts on low reps with heavy weights and partial reps, are that they will add power so that on your lighter sets,you can use more weight after a time,also they`ll help strengthen tendons and ligaments.
Personally, I do a full range of motion on everything all the time................ I do half reps on certain movements at the end of a set when full reps are no longer possible,in an effort to extend the set and get a "burn" in the muscle I`m training.
This is not a knock on Dans training, because whatever he`s doing,it`s working as he looks fucking great.
I`d go lighter with a full range of motion myself,but I don`t look anywhere near as good as Dan (Leafy).
If it works,great...........but be careful.
i agree with most but disagree with the notion implied here that you need a full range of motion for certain exercises to cause growth. for example, most people do bench for their pecs and some people don'tt go to top the 1/4th of the lift, the lockout, which is perfectly fine as it mostly targets the tris.
though, i feel for some muscles a stretch is necessary for them to grow, like biceps. i can't get them to grow very well unless i'm getting a full stretch and a strong contraction at the top of the lift.
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here's something for you to watch before you do shoulders again. You can't watch this massive natural bodybuilder doing a set of shoulder presses with 315lbs for reps and not be impressed.
N0T IMPRESSED
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Someone needs to warn him of his low back...
Oh wait...
I just did.
Wait til you get to be an old man like me. I used perfect form and very heavy weights and it still took its toll on me. It's inevitable...
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here's something for you to watch before you do shoulders again. You can't watch this massive natural bodybuilder doing a set of shoulder presses with 315lbs for reps and not be impressed.
Very impressive! Even with a spot not many people can barbell curl three plates.
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What Ron Harris can is is more than most people can do - HOWEVER
A decently strong guy who trained with that ROM for a few weeks would get way way stronger very quickly. Its like doing rack pulls I know a 140lb guy who can rack pull 660lbs - from about 4-5" short of lockout
You can see where he starts to bring it around the chin level how much harder it is for him. That ROM is very specific and I would be genuinely surprised if he could do 2-3 reps from his clavicle with 275lbs
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goud i think ur the strongest shoulder presser... your just built for it i think....
especially the standing version
in regard to the 100 smith maching press... that i wouldnt put down as a show of strength
ive used smith machinche that make the weight super easy.... i mean u push the bar up on its own empty and it takes 5 seconds to come back down...
same as when people use leg press as a show of strength... nonsense.... some leg presses are super easy and allow people to pile on weight to show off....
FREE weight is where its at
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There are stronger guys than me pressing but I just enjoy shoulder pressing. There will be lots of guys on this stronger - that bbuilder turned strongman
I have never used a smith machine so it would be interesting to see the difference!
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goud i think ur the strongest shoulder presser... your just built for it i think....
especially the standing version
in regard to the 100 smith maching press... that i wouldnt put down as a show of strength
ive used smith machinche that make the weight super easy.... i mean u push the bar up on its own empty and it takes 5 seconds to come back down...
same as when people use leg press as a show of strength... nonsense.... some leg presses are super easy and allow people to pile on weight to show off....
FREE weight is where its at
Try it and show me your video of how easy it is :). Notice i said 300 as well. Not 335. That bar is - 35 lbs.
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Honestly, LB, what's the point? You didn't do one full rep. And that whole "focus on the range of the muscle" or whatever is bullshit, your shoulder don't stop moving when the bar gets to your nose and the top of your head. ::)
Why not lighten up and do full range, chin to lockout?
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Try it and show me your video of how easy it is :). Notice i said 300 as well. Not 335. That bar is - 35 lbs.
When I use smith I do 5 sets ending with 315 3 plates. Side
And sometimes that's my second excersise that's after dumbell presses sometimes ending at 130s
So nope that's. It hard :-\
Good press what I'm saying is smith machines are deceptive some are easy and I wouldn't use that as a show of strength
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Yeah but you're on a lot more steroids than Leafy is. :)
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Yeah but you're on a lot more steroids than Leafy is. :)
I've never in my life ever taken any drugs and never will
That's on my family's life.
... If u want to tell yourself different that's on you
But it's getting kind of old now.
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Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode
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Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode
That`s how I do it,but I`m old and small so it doesn`t count!! :(
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It is teh best way!
You are as big and as strong as anyone else can be at your weight and age bud!! Very Impressive
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Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode
Quick question goud when your doing standing shoulder presses what stance works better for you legs both straight across or one leg behind for balance
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SteroidAbuser78.... Feet side by side, open about shoulder width is more difficult because you use your abs/lower back to stabilize the body during the press, split stance takes a lot of that out of the move, if you want to build power keep your feet side by side. Even in the "jerk" when the legs are split the move isn't complete until the legs are side by side. For some real fun try feet together, legs stiff. ;)
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Quick question goud when your doing standing shoulder presses what stance works better for you legs both straight across or one leg behind for balance
Feet beside each other kinda wideish stance. Ill see if there is a video somewhere.
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Thanks Goudy! :)
Well,one thing I will say is that whatever type of training Leafy does,it`s working.......guy has good size and classic lines.
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Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.
Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance. I am in green t-shirt
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Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.
Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance.
I hear ya` bud........wasn`t trying to insinute that at all.
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Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.
Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance. I am in green t-shirt
Good stuff man
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When I do shoulder press with a Barbell, I usually clean it and then sit down with it on my Shoulder Bench and then press it from clavicle to lockout. Being that my arms are abnormally long, if I did the 90 degree upper arm and elbow stopping point (traditional way I think) I literally would move it 1-2 inches and not get anything out of it.
I am able to do my bodyweight for 10 cleaning and then clavicle to lockout which I don`t think is too bad at all.
There is no one way to train thats for sure, its different for everyone and different in many circumstances.
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There is no one way to train thats for sure, its different for everyone and different in many circumstances.
QFT........everyone should experiment and do what works best for them.
This may change over time,so always keep an open mind.
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Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.
Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance. I am in green t-shirt
jesus Goudy what i want to know is what are you doing for that crazy back? your back looks a mile and a half wide.
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Steroids: not just for races horses anymore.
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Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode
So you are telling me you want to put a 300+ lbs load with your humerus at a negative 45 degree angle with the only thing holding it in place is a strip of tendon? Go for it man. Remember you used momentum to get it past the bottom half. It's not safe. You can only get away with it for so long.
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Honestly, LB, what's the point? You didn't do one full rep. And that whole "focus on the range of the muscle" or whatever is bullshit, your shoulder don't stop moving when the bar gets to your nose and the top of your head. ::)
Why not lighten up and do full range, chin to lockout?
going down to your chin is dumb, unnecessary and just asking for an injury
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http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/iatraining/1015-mike-liberatore-trains-shoulders-at-bev-francis-powerhouse-gym-offseason.html
Just to the crease of the head or just below 90 degrees. You can go ahead and go below shoulders. That is fine with lighter weight. I'd personally try to avoid it.
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http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/iatraining/1015-mike-liberatore-trains-shoulders-at-bev-francis-powerhouse-gym-offseason.html
Just to the crease of the head or just below 90 degrees. You can go ahead and go below shoulders. That is fine with lighter weight. I'd personally try to avoid it.
Why does Palumbo always say, without FAIL, "It looks like you're doing a little [X bodypart] training"? Isn't that obvious from the footage? And why is it always a "little" whatever? :D
But to this guy's credit, I fully agree: on behind-neck press, ear-level is PLENTY low enough. Front press? Chin or even Adam's Apple is probably better, even if it involves "more of the upper chest" as Liberatore said.
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So you are telling me you want to put a 300+ lbs load with your humerus at a negative 45 degree angle with the only thing holding it in place is a strip of tendon? Go for it man. Remember you used momentum to get it past the bottom half. It's not safe. You can only get away with it for so long.
Honestly I cannot comment as I do not do these but i will start but just a few thoughts:
If that was the case would you just not use lower weight but fuller ROM
Also if you are seated I do not think you could use momentum?
Like I said I have not tried these but i will and get back to you man!
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Lol @ people justifying partial range reps.... ::)
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Lol @ people justifying partial range reps.... ::)
;D
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Lol @ people justifying partial range reps.... ::)
haha good point