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Title: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2011, 01:03:13 PM
“Given the bandwidth that has been taken out of the discussion of any other issues pertinent to this campaign, a reconsideration might be in order,” Huntsman told the Globe during an interview.
 
“You’ve got to be reconsidering just based on how we have lost focus on the issues that really do matter,” Huntsman added. “Every time another accusation comes up, it diminishes our ability to stay focused on the issues that really do matter for the American people. And I think that’s a disservice to the voters.”


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Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2011, 01:10:06 PM
He is really rising in my book.   He would destroy Obama.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
He is really rising in my book.   He would destroy Obama.

He would completely fcking wreck obama.

huntsmann is VERY intelligent.  He's rich.  He has a cool look.

And he doesn't have the flips of romney, the baggage of newt.

Honestly, I don't see why he's at 1%.   Just cause he's not angry enough?  Maybe there's a pattern here - "angry" and loud politicians are unstable and have a shitload of baggage?  Calm rational people like Huntsmann and Reagan don't scream.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
He would completely fcking wreck obama.

huntsmann is VERY intelligent.  He's rich.  He has a cool look.

And he doesn't have the flips of romney, the baggage of newt.

Honestly, I don't see why he's at 1%.   Just cause he's not angry enough?  Maybe there's a pattern here - "angry" and loud politicians are unstable and have a shitload of baggage?  Calm rational people like Huntsmann and Reagan don't scream.

He is getting angry - and that is why he is rising.   His last debate was really good and his statements on the banks has me really looking at him again.   
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2011, 01:17:36 PM
lol.  Says the man who only recently got above above 1 percent.  He's at 2.3%, tied for last with Santorum.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2011, 01:18:35 PM
lol.  Says the man who only recently got above above 1 percent.  He's at 2.3%, tied for last with Santorum.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

For every 1 repub voter that likes Huntsman, there are FIFTEEN that love some Herman Cain.

Piss poor judgment.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: James on November 29, 2011, 01:21:47 PM
Huntsman signed a bill giving illegal aliens access to "driving-privilege cards, and He also threatened to veto a measure repealing in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.


Wont get my vote.

Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2011, 01:23:18 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/jon-huntsman-would-break-up-big-banks_n_1118518.html


This is what I am cheering.   Other than Paul, no one is discussing this stuff.  

Cain and Perry are a disgrace.  Totally unprepared, totally incapable, and not ready.   They are wasting everyones' time and turning this race in to a farce.      


We need to beat obama - not have a carousel of stupidity. 
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2011, 01:29:03 PM
Huntsman signed a bill giving illegal aliens access to "driving-privilege cards, and He also threatened to veto a measure repealing in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.

Wont get my vote.



He's not going to be the nominee. 
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2011, 01:33:27 PM
He's not going to be the nominee. 

There is only one thing we need to focus on - who can get the communist wretch and his fat disgusting grifter slob out of 1600 PA Ave.   Cain/Perry/Santorum are not only clueless and inept - but they are hurting our chances gravely.  Romney is a bag of turd too.   I know a lot of people who are revulsed by him. 

Newt is fun to listen to and would tear Obama a new asshole - but women will be a problem for him with his issues. 

So we are left with Paul / Bachmann / Hunts as people who can send this traitorous thug and his looting family packing, IMHO.     
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: James on November 29, 2011, 01:37:50 PM
There is only one thing we need to focus on - who can get the communist wretch and his fat disgusting grifter slob out of 1600 PA Ave.   Cain/Perry/Santorum are not only clueless and inept - but they are hurting our chances gravely.  Romney is a bag of turd too.   I know a lot of people who are revulsed by him.  

Newt is fun to listen to and would tear Obama a new asshole - but women will be a problem for him with his issues.  

So we are left with Paul / Bachmann / Hunts as people who can send this traitorous thug and his looting family packing, IMHO.    

No "pro-illegal immigrant" Politician will get my vote in the primary (Newt, Romney, Perry, Hunts)

(http://www.brokencountry.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/illegal_aliens-giving-finger.jpg)
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2011, 01:41:30 PM
No "pro-illegal immigrant" Politician will get my vote in the primary (Newt, Romney, Perry, Hunts)


I am already long prepared to do things electorally I once never thought unimaginable in order to get Maobama and his fat nasty angry looting wife gone.   They are a plague.   
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: James on November 29, 2011, 01:48:23 PM
I am already long prepared to do things electorally I once never thought unimaginable in order to get Maobama and his fat nasty angry looting wife gone.   They are a plague.  

In the election.....yes

In the primary.... no

I will not vote for a pro-Amnesty politician in the primary, sorry... not gonna happen
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2011, 01:51:18 PM
Huntsman signed a bill giving illegal aliens access to "driving-privilege cards, and He also threatened to veto a measure repealing in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.

Wont get my vote.

I agree he sucks on that issue.

however, i think every repub (except bachmann and paul?) have said they'd support amnesty in one form or another.  Mitt criticized Newt for it, then woudln't say anything he'd do diff, and he did allow sanctuary cities as governors.

So while you're right - I think the top 4 or 5 potential GOPers are all going to be soft on the border.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: James on November 29, 2011, 01:53:38 PM
I agree he sucks on that issue.

however, i think every repub (except bachmann and paul?) have said they'd support amnesty in one form or another.  Mitt criticized Newt for it, then woudln't say anything he'd do diff, and he did allow sanctuary cities as governors.

So while you're right - I think the top 4 or 5 potential GOPers are all going to be soft on the border.

No "pro-illegal immigrant" Politician will get my vote in the primary (Newt, Romney, Perry, Hunts)
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
who does that leave?   Ron Paul?  I'm cool with that :)
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 29, 2011, 02:01:12 PM
who does that leave?   Ron Paul?  I'm cool with that :)


Ron Paul / MB  would be my ideal ticket right now.   


You have the dignified elderly yoda at the top of the ticket - and the stiletto wielding hellcat at VP   
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Dos Equis on November 29, 2011, 02:04:03 PM
There is only one thing we need to focus on - who can get the communist wretch and his fat disgusting grifter slob out of 1600 PA Ave.   Cain/Perry/Santorum are not only clueless and inept - but they are hurting our chances gravely.  Romney is a bag of turd too.   I know a lot of people who are revulsed by him. 

Newt is fun to listen to and would tear Obama a new asshole - but women will be a problem for him with his issues. 

So we are left with Paul / Bachmann / Hunts as people who can send this traitorous thug and his looting family packing, IMHO.     

Paul, Bachmann, and Huntsman have no shot.  

I don't think any candidate is hurting the eventual nominee's chances.  Nobody is going to discuss or probably even remember what happened during the primary once the general starts.  

But I think most of us agree that we need to do whatever is necessary to get Obama out of office.  That's mostly what I care about.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
Paul, Bachmann, and Huntsman have no shot. 

Today, this is correct.

What happens with no Perry and Cain in the race?   Do those votes all go to Newt?
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 29, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
Three more weeks, Newt will crash.  Probably max out the Tiffany credit for Xmas or something.  But nevertheless, he WILL crash.

Then Huntsman will get an opportunity for the spotlight and everyone will have a look see.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: haider on November 29, 2011, 06:18:39 PM
in my eyes the only person besides paul i'd consider voting for. everyone else is either batshit crazy or way over their league in the race
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on November 30, 2011, 02:04:24 PM
He would completely fcking wreck obama.

huntsmann is VERY intelligent.  He's rich.  He has a cool look.

And he doesn't have the flips of romney, the baggage of newt.

Honestly, I don't see why he's at 1%.   Just cause he's not angry enough?  Maybe there's a pattern here - "angry" and loud politicians are unstable and have a shitload of baggage?  Calm rational people like Huntsmann and Reagan don't scream.

He's at 1% and rightfully so due to his awful record of expanding the size of Utah's state government by 30%. He also said that Obama's stimulus package was too small and should have been $1 trillion. He also supported TARP and was a leading advocate for cap-and-trade.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on November 30, 2011, 02:11:33 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/jon-huntsman-would-break-up-big-banks_n_1118518.html


This is what I am cheering.   Other than Paul, no one is discussing this stuff.

Seriously? Huntsman wants to impose draconian regulations which would chain our financial industry - and thus our economy - and you cheer that and compare him to Ron Paul's support of free market capitalism?

Huntsman is as Big Government RINO as they get.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 30, 2011, 02:14:05 PM
Seriously? Huntsman wants to impose draconian regulations which would chain our financial industry - and thus our economy - and you cheer that and compare him to Ron Paul's support of free market capitalism?

Huntsman is as Big Government RINO as they get.

Big Banks need to be broken up or ended.   They threaten our entire nation.   
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on November 30, 2011, 02:19:36 PM
Big Banks need to be broken up or ended.   They threaten our entire nation.   

Sure, I'll agree to an extent with that. But a bank can only get "too big" with the help of government largesse. Huntsman's plan doesn't address the actual problem, it only proposes draconian regulations and taxes. If anything, Huntsman's plan will make the financial system less efficient and will greatly harm our economy.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 30, 2011, 02:22:56 PM
Sure, I'll agree to an extent with that. But a bank can only get "too big" with the help of government largesse. Huntsman's plan doesn't address the actual problem, it only proposes draconian regulations and taxes. If anything, Huntsman's plan will make the financial system less efficient and will greatly harm our economy.

I agree - I was one of the only ones against TARP from Day 1. 
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on November 30, 2011, 02:25:44 PM
I agree - I was one of the only ones against TARP from Day 1. 

If you agree, then why are you championing Huntsman (who supported TARP) and his ridiculous Big Government financial regulatory plan?
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 30, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
If you agree, then why are you championing Huntsman (who supported TARP) and his ridiculous Big Government financial regulatory plan?

I am in favor of RP / Bachmann   but after that A B O 

Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2011, 10:24:59 AM
I am in favor of RP / Bachmann   but after that A B O 



Bachmann is nothing more than an older botox polished version of Palin.  She will sink any ticket she is on.

Every time she opens her mouth she reminds me a Remax agent that is trying to run for Fartsville County Commissioner. 

A Paul/Huntsman ticket is something I could get behind.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Parker on December 02, 2011, 03:57:45 AM
I am already long prepared to do things electorally I once never thought unimaginable in order to get Maobama and his fat nasty angry looting wife gone.   They are a plague.   
Thats sad, and if you get somebody in that is "worse", who's to blame?
This type of attitude shows that people who think this way should not be voting
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on December 02, 2011, 09:59:03 AM
A Paul/Huntsman ticket is something I could get behind.

Again... seriously?!? Huntsman, the guy who grew Utah state government by 30%? Huntsman, the guy who supported the TARP bailouts? Huntsman, the guy who said that Obama's stimulus was too small? Huntsman, the guy who supports tyrannical regulations which will once and for all kill the financial industry in this country?

Saying that you support a Paul/Huntsman ticket is like saying you support an Obama/Limbaugh ticket. It's retarded and it ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2011, 11:03:36 AM
Republicans trust Huntsman even less than Romney. 
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: 240 is Back on December 02, 2011, 11:06:23 AM
Republicans trust Huntsman even less than Romney. 

And they believed Palin was competent.
And they believed Cain was innocent.
And they believed Perry was wise.
And they believed Newt was never a lobbyist.


  SO much for their judgment.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2011, 02:34:07 PM
And they believed Palin was competent.
And they believed Cain was innocent.
And they believed Perry was wise.
And they believed Newt was never a lobbyist.


  SO much for their judgment.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on December 02, 2011, 07:41:33 PM
Let me get this straight... The GOP trusted a bunch of people who were morons, liars, and thieves. Now, they distrust one person. So you pick that person and trust him? LOL, great strategy!
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 02, 2011, 07:50:12 PM
Paul / Paul 2012. 
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on December 02, 2011, 07:53:23 PM
What about Gary Johnson?  :)
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 02, 2011, 07:54:39 PM
What about Gary Johnson?  :)

I like him, but going nowhere.   Actually rand paul is the fucking man.   Best political donation I have evr made.
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: howardroark on December 02, 2011, 08:02:23 PM
Rand Paul is the man... Much more articulate than his father. A better approach to foreign policy I think, but he's still faithful to the same principles. In a few years we might hope for a Rand Paul presidency. But perhaps the next election we can hope for a solid Gary Johnson run?
Title: Re: Huntsman says it maybe time for Cain to go
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 02, 2011, 08:11:16 PM
Rand Paul is the man... Much more articulate than his father. A better approach to foreign policy I think, but he's still faithful to the same principles. In a few years we might hope for a Rand Paul presidency. But perhaps the next election we can hope for a solid Gary Johnson run?

rand has the same exact position as Ron, but rand is a little softer in his approach.  Love rand Paul.    His speeches on the defense authorization act are historic.