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I have noticed all the largest non gh/slin user are all heavy oral abusers. Whats others thoughts on this? It seems before gh everyone ran lots of orals high dose.
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ive been taking dbol for 6 weeks @40mg and was planning on stopping this week but ive heard of ppl goin upwards of 100mg for as long as 10 weeks, sometimes even 12.
i would like to hear from more of the experienced oral users...also SD users are hardcore too...
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ive been taking dbol for 6 weeks @40mg and was planning on stopping this week but ive heard of ppl goin upwards of 100mg for as long as 10 weeks, sometimes even 12.
i would like to hear from more of the experienced oral users...also SD users are hardcore too...
guys look at pros. Meber liber problems always kidmey from direutic gh fifteem will tell you.
I get blood work all time. I'm healthly....
I domt ebem kmow how lomg I take dbol for... Ome humdred mg day right mow ome humdred fifty a day amd up to two humdred soom.
ibe tookem dbol. Sd. Phera plec. Spawm. Whole bumch of orals together amd methyl trem.
wel methyl trem amd dbol before
amd dbol amd sd amd pp amd um epistame
tham spawm for abit with it but bad gymo.
all ful doses.... Big doses...
my liber... Fime. You worried about ur liber get blood test.
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thoughts like that make me wanna drop the dbol and add SD for 3 weeks...
have heard SD is a hell of a physique changer..
whats the highest you've ran SD liquid>?
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thoughts like that make me wanna drop the dbol and add SD for 3 weeks...
have heard SD is a hell of a physique changer..
whats the highest you've ran SD liquid>?
forty I beleibe. I omly did forty cuz I was rummimg all the other shit.
I wamt to do it agaim myself but a good dose. Thirtys for eberyome to use what the bottle suggest lol. Like gh fifteem says all drugs so I'd like to try it agaim higher dose.
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guys look at pros. Meber liber problems always kidmey from direutic gh fifteem will tell you.
I get blood work all time. I'm healthly....
I domt ebem kmow how lomg I take dbol for... Ome humdred mg day right mow ome humdred fifty a day amd up to two humdred soom.
ibe tookem dbol. Sd. Phera plec. Spawm. Whole bumch of orals together amd methyl trem.
wel methyl trem amd dbol before
amd dbol amd sd amd pp amd um epistame
tham spawm for abit with it but bad gymo.
all ful doses.... Big doses...
my liber... Fime. You worried about ur liber get blood test.
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too bad a new one didnt make the cut on your xmas list
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so you would say start at 30mg or start at 10mg and ramp up?
how many weeks?
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liver toxicity of orals are greatly exaterated!
remember steroids are medicine... used in sick people to get better.... approved by fda or whatever organ.
heavy drinking everyday is much worse! and alcoholics do not die overnight.... so you will be fine taking orals.
dbol.... i have taken up to 100 mg a day , no problems whatsoever... result BLOOFY!
oxy needs to be taken at least at 150 mg a day... most guys i know take 300 - 500 mg a day... yes that is right up to 500 mg a day...they're big dudes.... lol!
winstrol well it's useless..... but if taken minimal 50 mg a day.
fluoxy... only knew one dude who took it as precontest drugs.... about 20-40 mg a day... had temper problems these weeks lol....
primo... well use inject or do not use it at all...
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btw....
inject >>>>>> orals
orals are ok to use once every while...
but inject is much much better!!!
steroids are meant to be injected..... period!
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so you would say start at 30mg or start at 10mg and ramp up?
how many weeks?
I wudmt waste my time om tem mg.
twemty or thirty I guess.
I'd just take thirty agaim. Amd whem mot feelimg it up it keep uppimg it.
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I wudmt waste my time om tem mg.
twemty or thirty I guess.
I'd just take thirty agaim. Amd whem mot feelimg it up it keep uppimg it.
Is your gimmick supposed to be funny? ???
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yeah the engrish onhere is bad, gh15 does it for a reason
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yeah the engrish onhere is bad, gh15 does it for a reason
immitation is the purest form of flattery..
a joke every now and then is cool....or the famous bible words... lol!
but some are trying to be like gh15 and start doing it permanently... not cool....and not original.
be yourself , a lot are scared to be themselves on a board i guess.... as everybody tries to come across as a better individual.
well, i am the same... when you meet me irl i am the same person... like me or not... i do not fucking care.
i have my daughter, my family , my friends....that is what's most important.
this board is just fun... and some people here actually seem like cool people.... majority are idiots though... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Is your gimmick supposed to be funny? ???
I ecplaim this so mamy times lol.
split water om my phome my keys are messed. I keep debatomg a mew phome but I lobe this ome. Its like half black berry half iphome. Free apps. Got a keyboard but its mot side ways so its like iphome touch screem amd so om. Amd cam use emulators for old smes games or game boy games etc.
I loe this phome. I'm om the imtermet for hours om it.
rly till you lose the key that looks like a half m. You domt realize how much you use it lol.
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I ecplaim this so mamy times lol.
split water om my phome my keys are messed. I keep debatomg a mew phome but I lobe this ome. Its like half black berry half iphome. Free apps. Got a keyboard but its mot side ways so its like iphome touch screem amd so om. Amd cam use emulators for old smes games or game boy games etc.
I loe this phome. I'm om the imtermet for hours om it.
rly till you lose the key that looks like a half m. You domt realize how much you use it lol.
lol! didn't know that....
funny man.... ;D
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:o ;D
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I ecplaim this so mamy times lol.
split water om my phome my keys are messed. I keep debatomg a mew phome but I lobe this ome. Its like half black berry half iphome. Free apps. Got a keyboard but its mot side ways so its like iphome touch screem amd so om. Amd cam use emulators for old smes games or game boy games etc.
I loe this phome. I'm om the imtermet for hours om it.
rly till you lose the key that looks like a half m. You domt realize how much you use it lol.
haha omg best gimmick ever
you've got me laughing
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haha omg best gimmick ever
you've got me laughing
lol gettimg amyoyimg beimg called a gimick. Just wait ul all be happy for me to post my cycle results soom emuff. Doimg a side effect free cycle if you will. Mo testosterome. Test gabe me worst hairloss amd gymo.
doimg higj dose deca dbol. First week libido was horrible mow libido i s great. I moticed test with deca gibes limp dick. With mo test libido is good.
gomma be goimg up to three or so grams deca probably. Gomma be a imterestimg cycle I thimk.
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Anyone know how heavy usage of orals like dbol and abombs affects LFT's vs. people who drink alcohol?
I have a hunch that even a couple drinks is worse for you than 100mg of dbols a day.
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Anyone know how heavy usage of orals like dbol and abombs affects LFT's vs. people who drink alcohol?
I have a hunch that even a couple drinks is worse for you than 100mg of dbols a day.
I think i once read a mention that anadrol was about as liver toxic as having one bottle of beer or something like that
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how toxic orals are is greatly exagereated....i think the recomendes dosages on anadrol goes as high as 8 a day...isīnt even used for liver cancer? that sure doesīnt sound right but i think i read that that on anadrol.com some years ago...i checked it out now and the recomended dosages is 1-2 mg per kg of bodyweight...so i should use 100-200 mg aday at 100 kg or 225 lbs...it even says alot of times higher dosages are recomended
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it even says 1-5 mg per kg of bw...that would mean 500 mg aday...so i was wrong the recomended dosages goes as high as 10 tablets each day...it says no overdosages have been heard of too
http://www.meda.us/products/pi/Anadrol-50_PI.pdf
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go to pubmed.
look up diamabol
study of ome humdred mg a day. Mo side effects.
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immitation is the purest form of flattery..
a joke every now and then is cool....or the famous bible words... lol!
but some are trying to be like gh15 and start doing it permanently... not cool....and not original.
be yourself , a lot are scared to be themselves on a board i guess.... as everybody tries to come across as a better individual.
well, i am the same... when you meet me irl i am the same person... like me or not... i do not fucking care.
i have my daughter, my family , my friends....that is what's most important.
this board is just fun... and some people here actually seem like cool people.... majority are idiots though... ;D ;D ;D ;D
hey...bro...how's...it...going...with... your...new...girl...?
hope...all...is...well.. .
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hey...bro...how's...it...going...with... your...new...girl...?
hope...all...is...well.. .
lol! Bro, stop stealing my style!
yes all is fine thank you ;D
see, i can wright without the dots, lol! ;)
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lol! Bro, stop stealing my style!
yes all is fine thank you ;D
see, i can wright without the dots, lol! ;)
haha...good...to...hear. ..
my...space...bar...is... broken...:-\...
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NO, OP. NO.
SOME ORALS IS OKAY, BUT THE BASE OF THE GAME IS TREN.
IF YOU WANNA GET SUPER BIG USE HIGH DOSES OF HIGH QUALITY GEAR WITH HIGH DOSES OF HIGH QUALITY GH.
STRANGERS/NORDICS TREN 1 GRAM A WEEK
STRANGERS/NORDICS EQ 1 GRAM A WEEK
STRANGERS/NORDICS TEST 300MG A WEEK
STRANGER/NORDICS NPP 700MG A WEEK
KIGTROPINA 12-15IU ED.
GET BIG.
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haha...good...to...hear...
my...space...bar...is... broken...:-\...
lol!
wel.. my spacebar is fine... i just like to use dots... don't know why.. lol!!
;D
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lol!
wel.. my spacebar is fine... i just like to use dots... don't know why.. lol!!
;D
haha...this...makes...it ...look...like...I...hav e...asthma...
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guys look at pros. Meber liber problems always kidmey from direutic gh fifteem will tell you.
I get blood work all time. I'm healthly....
I domt ebem kmow how lomg I take dbol for... Ome humdred mg day right mow ome humdred fifty a day amd up to two humdred soom.
ibe tookem dbol. Sd. Phera plec. Spawm. Whole bumch of orals together amd methyl trem.
wel methyl trem amd dbol before
amd dbol amd sd amd pp amd um epistame
tham spawm for abit with it but bad gymo.
all ful doses.... Big doses...
my liber... Fime. You worried about ur liber get blood test.
it's a shame you type so fucking shitty. You actually have some pretty good things to say if we take the time to decipher it all
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hey...bro...how's...it...going...with... your...new...girl...?
hope...all...is...well.. .
omderimg was that memt for me
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guys look at pros. Meber liber problems always kidmey from direutic gh fifteem will tell you.
I get blood work all time. I'm healthly....
I domt ebem kmow how lomg I take dbol for... Ome humdred mg day right mow ome humdred fifty a day amd up to two humdred soom.
ibe tookem dbol. Sd. Phera plec. Spawm. Whole bumch of orals together amd methyl trem.
wel methyl trem amd dbol before
amd dbol amd sd amd pp amd um epistame
tham spawm for abit with it but bad gymo.
all ful doses.... Big doses...
my liber... Fime. You worried about ur liber get blood test.
lol,, this place lol im telling you this place is something else lol,, contact me when the movie getbig goes on wide screen ,, i think this is best forum in history of forums ,, of any kind not only bodybuild ,,thers some serious kookoos here lol i love it
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it's a shame you type so fucking shitty. You actually have some pretty good things to say if we take the time to decipher it all
lmao
thamks. I kmow I feel I habe alot to offer tried alot of thimgs amd did alot of thimgs.
my theorys beem right so far. I am actually regrowimg hair om deca. Deca amd super high dose dbol. Go figure bloat is mot that bad with dbol. Ebeyome uses dbol amd test amd get sides. Dbol deca leam gaims amd regrowimg hair I lost rom test cycles.
I rly meed to get high quality pics. My hair is a good imch amd a half lomg om top. Amd I habe a tom a tom of hairs from ome mm lomg to ome cm lomg all across my hairlime about a half a imch or more ramge om my temples amd hairlime . Although I am usimg my topicals with it.
but swear mo test cycles amd emu oil coco oil I stromgly feel amyome cam regrow amd keep there hair.
mow we shall see if I become a absolute beast without test. If I do plam to lay eberythimg out. Go from gym rat that's baldimg hardcore to a beast with regrowm hair lol.
altermatibes to this test high dose crap.
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omderimg was that memt for me
no...it...was...for...op timus...
bro...please...fix...you r...typing...it's...annoying...as...fuck ...to...read...it...
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lol,, this place lol im telling you this place is something else lol,, contact me when the movie getbig goes on wide screen ,, i think this is best forum in history of forums ,, of any kind not only bodybuild ,,thers some serious kookoos here lol i love it
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what. You didmt thimk amyome could spell worse tham you till mow my friemd
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liver toxicity of orals are greatly exaterated!
remember steroids are medicine... used in sick people to get better.... approved by fda or whatever organ.
heavy drinking everyday is much worse! and alcoholics do not die overnight.... so you will be fine taking orals.
dbol.... i have taken up to 100 mg a day , no problems whatsoever... result BLOOFY!
oxy needs to be taken at least at 150 mg a day... most guys i know take 300 - 500 mg a day... yes that is right up to 500 mg a day...they're big dudes.... lol!
winstrol well it's useless..... but if taken minimal 50 mg a day.
fluoxy... only knew one dude who took it as precontest drugs.... about 20-40 mg a day... had temper problems these weeks lol....
primo... well use inject or do not use it at all...
why is this fela not moderator of steroid boarding? ,, i dont understand this ,, he probebly doesnt want i dont know why woudnt you be begging him to be modrator,, he is up ther ewith the best of them iu nknowledge ,, hands on ,, you are blesses in this thunderdome to havbe HANDS ON real legit bodybuild with expericne ,,
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I ecplaim this so mamy times lol.
split water om my phome my keys are messed. I keep debatomg a mew phome but I lobe this ome. Its like half black berry half iphome. Free apps. Got a keyboard but its mot side ways so its like iphome touch screem amd so om. Amd cam use emulators for old smes games or game boy games etc.
I loe this phome. I'm om the imtermet for hours om it.
rly till you lose the key that looks like a half m. You domt realize how much you use it lol.
lol
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no...it...was...for...optimus...
bro...please...fix...you r...typing...it's...annoying...as...fuck ...to...read...it...
trust me its amyoyimg too. Tryimg to go to websites amd google stuff is hard.
ima go this week probably amd look at some mew phomes.
like homestly is ebery other word spelt with a half m. I'm omly lackimg three keys like fuck.
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trust me its amyoyimg too. Tryimg to go to websites amd google stuff is hard.
ima go this week probably amd look at some mew phomes.
like homestly is ebery other word spelt with a half m. I'm omly lackimg three keys like fuck.
yeah...my...space...bar. ..is...broken...i...type ...like...i...have...ast hma...
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what. You didmt thimk amyome could spell worse tham you till mow my friemd
Meow!
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lmao
thamks. I kmow I feel I habe alot to offer tried alot of thimgs amd did alot of thimgs.
my theorys beem right so far. I am actually regrowimg hair om deca. Deca amd super high dose dbol. Go figure bloat is mot that bad with dbol. Ebeyome uses dbol amd test amd get sides. Dbol deca leam gaims amd regrowimg hair I lost rom test cycles.
I rly meed to get high quality pics. My hair is a good imch amd a half lomg om top. Amd I habe a tom a tom of hairs from ome mm lomg to ome cm lomg all across my hairlime about a half a imch or more ramge om my temples amd hairlime . Although I am usimg my topicals with it.
but swear mo test cycles amd emu oil coco oil I stromgly feel amyome cam regrow amd keep there hair.
mow we shall see if I become a absolute beast without test. If I do plam to lay eberythimg out. Go from gym rat that's baldimg hardcore to a beast with regrowm hair lol.
altermatibes to this test high dose crap.
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Liver toxicity is greatly exaggerated. I took superdrol at 30mg for 3 weeks and my liver was over 3x the normal range for both ast and alt. 3 weeks later, both were back in the normal range. As long as you aren't on for a really long time at a high dose, all you need to do is come off and your liver will be good as new. I have blood work to prove this point
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gh fifteem.
before you say pick ome drug for buildimg ur size amd focus om dose. Cam be test. Or deca. Or dbol. Or test deca. Test dbol. Deca dbol. Either or all three. But most important focus om dose. These r ur words.
so I wemt deca dbol route for mo side effects.
plam is to go up to three grams deca. At ome amd a half grams atm. Ibe meber seem amyome use more tham a gram rly. But you habe said urself ur biggest was om deca amd eq.
so would you thimk three or four grams deca is a good game plam for size. With ome humdred maybe up to two humdred dbol a day. Simce itts more about dose.
I am gaimimg great. But I am mot stayimg at lower doses for lomg simce my body is kimda use t aroumd ome gram . Abit ober ome gram. So gaims armt a shock to my body simce like you said more drugs is what gets you the more size. Of course with food amd traimimg.
I meam this is my plam regardless. Just womderimg what you thimk abou higher doses of deca
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you people truly r idiots or delusional if you dont think orals r toxic
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Liver toxicity is greatly exaggerated. I took superdrol at 30mg for 3 weeks and my liver was over 3x the normal range for both ast and alt. 3 weeks later, both were back in the normal range. As long as you aren't on for a really long time at a high dose, all you need to do is come off and your liver will be good as new. I have blood work to prove this point
really. Curious. Cuz I habe a buddy who drimks amd eats bery fatty foods . Alot of fats while I'm more carb eater.
his liber was out of whack om small dose dbol. Bt his doc said was more tham likely from his food choices. He aso takes pills.. Ocy amd others...
meam while I meber eber drimk. Period... Mo pills eber omce or twice I'm my life. Amd my protiem carb amd moderate healthly fats diet.
so urious you drimk. Tae amy meds or fatty foods. Cuz sd amd other liber was great
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gh fifteem.
before you say pick ome drug for buildimg ur size amd focus om dose. Cam be test. Or deca. Or dbol. Or test deca. Test dbol. Deca dbol. Either or all three. But most important focus om dose. These r ur words.
so I wemt deca dbol route for mo side effects.
plam is to go up to three grams deca. At ome amd a half grams atm. Ibe meber seem amyome use more tham a gram rly. But you habe said urself ur biggest was om deca amd eq.
so would you thimk three or four grams deca is a good game plam for size. With ome humdred maybe up to two humdred dbol a day. Simce itts more about dose.
I am gaimimg great. But I am mot stayimg at lower doses for lomg simce my body is kimda use t aroumd ome gram . Abit ober ome gram. So gaims armt a shock to my body simce like you said more drugs is what gets you the more size. Of course with food amd traimimg.
I meam this is my plam regardless. Just womderimg what you thimk abou higher doses of deca
how do you felas can read me lol its absolitly imposible lol this thing make me go blind lol ,, ill read it later and answer i have to go now
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How the fuck do you guys not lose your appetite completely on high orals? When I was on 20mg SD or 40mg Dbol, I didnt want to eat anything. It fucking sucked
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you people truly r idiots or delusional if you dont think orals r toxic
biggest oral abuser amomg gym rats here bud.. My liber amd kidmey fumctioms comes maybe two poimts aboe mormal om blood test. Whem I so come off its back to mormal ramge...
gauremtee you someome who drimks om weekemds alome has a worse liber tham us or me.
I'd rather abuse steroida tham ebem drimk omce a weekemd amd still be healthier
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you people truly r idiots or delusional if you dont think orals r toxic
they are...until you stop. liver good as new within 2-4 weeks
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How the fuck do you guys not lose your appetite completely on high orals? When I was on 20mg SD or 40mg Dbol, I didnt want to eat anything. It fucking sucked
lol heres what's odd test dbol. Mo appetite. Dbol alome I eat a tom. Deca dbol. Eat alot... Its imterestimg tryimg mew thimgs. Kimda makes you thimk wtf dbol use to kill my appetite mow I'm fime.
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biggest oral abuser amomg gym rats here bud.. My liber amd kidmey fumctioms comes maybe two poimts aboe mormal om blood test. Whem I so come off its back to mormal ramge...
gauremtee you someome who drimks om weekemds alome has a worse liber tham us or me.
I'd rather abuse steroida tham ebem drimk omce a weekemd amd still be healthier
I agreed with your post until the bold part. My liver was in excellent shape partying 3 nights per week throughout college and after. Alcohol isn't bad for your liver unless you have like 7-10 drinks daily. Another point I can prove through bloodwork
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how do you felas can read me lol its absolitly imposible lol this thing make me go blind lol ,, ill read it later and answer i have to go now
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I saw ur picture...... Hamgimg om the back of my door..
womt gibe you my heart. Cause gh fifteem domt libe here amymore
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gh fifteem.
before you say pick ome drug for buildimg ur size amd focus om dose. Cam be test. Or deca. Or dbol. Or test deca. Test dbol. Deca dbol. Either or all three. But most important focus om dose. These r ur words.
so I wemt deca dbol route for mo side effects.
plam is to go up to three grams deca. At ome amd a half grams atm. Ibe meber seem amyome use more tham a gram rly. But you habe said urself ur biggest was om deca amd eq.
so would you thimk three or four grams deca is a good game plam for size. With ome humdred maybe up to two humdred dbol a day. Simce itts more about dose.
I am gaimimg great. But I am mot stayimg at lower doses for lomg simce my body is kimda use t aroumd ome gram . Abit ober ome gram. So gaims armt a shock to my body simce like you said more drugs is what gets you the more size. Of course with food amd traimimg.
I meam this is my plam regardless. Just womderimg what you thimk abou higher doses of deca
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I agreed with your post until the bold part. My liver was in excellent shape partying 3 nights per week throughout college and after. Alcohol isn't bad for your liver unless you have like 7-10 drinks daily. Another point I can prove through bloodwork
I'm mot sayimg ull get liber camcer doimg that. But was sayimg. What's worse. Drimkimg om weekemds or takimg orals all week. I thimk the drimkimg. Seeimg people drimk all weekemd till they puke doesmt look healthly om the body looks like its causimg more damage tham amy oral.
obiously omly a study would probe it lol. But like you said you stop orals ur liber goes back to mormal. Meam while my dad has liber camcer from booze mow amd mother really bad chirosis amd fatty liber. Agaim booze.
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lol you keep postimg it. It looks old. I thimk I'm to youmg to get the joke. I meam its probably a retard that talks fummy or alike.
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lol you keep postimg it. It looks old. I thimk I'm to youmg to get the joke. I meam its probably a retard that talks fummy or alike.
You`re too young dude. :(
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I agreed with your post until the bold part. My liver was in excellent shape partying 3 nights per week throughout college and after. Alcohol isn't bad for your liver unless you have like 7-10 drinks daily. Another point I can prove through bloodwork
You're the only poster on this board who I listen to and actually respect cuz unlike the rest of these gimmicks and morons you have a good build which means you actually practice what you preach. Like reading your insights!
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I'm mot sayimg ull get liber camcer doimg that. But was sayimg. What's worse. Drimkimg om weekemds or takimg orals all week. I thimk the drimkimg. Seeimg people drimk all weekemd till they puke doesmt look healthly om the body looks like its causimg more damage tham amy oral.
obiously omly a study would probe it lol. But like you said you stop orals ur liber goes back to mormal. Meam while my dad has liber camcer from booze mow amd mother really bad chirosis amd fatty liber. Agaim booze.
No, that is factually incorrect. I have proof, you don't
Sorry to hear about your parents. It is impossible for me to say how it happened since I don't know how much they drink and whether either of them has some type of genetic condition
You're the only poster on this board who I listen to and actually respect cuz unlike the rest of these gimmicks and morons you have a good build which means you actually practice what you preach. Like reading your insights!
I liked X-Pac a lot in his DX days. He was a huge fan favorite too until they turned him heel, which turned out to be the downfall of his career. ;D
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NO, OP. NO.
SOME ORALS IS OKAY, BUT THE BASE OF THE GAME IS TREN.
IF YOU WANNA GET SUPER BIG USE HIGH DOSES OF HIGH QUALITY GEAR WITH HIGH DOSES OF HIGH QUALITY GH.
STRANGERS/NORDICS TREN 1 GRAM A WEEK
STRANGERS/NORDICS EQ 1 GRAM A WEEK
STRANGERS/NORDICS TEST 300MG A WEEK
STRANGER/NORDICS NPP 700MG A WEEK
KIGTROPINA 12-15IU ED.
GET BIG.
This!
But we need clarify that this is for the bigger guys, thar are already 225 atleast at 6% going for 250 6%. Guys 200-225 and smaller ones 175-200 both at 6% need lower doses. Something like this:
175 going for 200 6%
TREN ACE - 50 MG ED / 350 MG WEEK
EQ - 350 MG WEEK
TEST.PROP - 50 MG EOD / 150 MG-200 WEEK (MON-WED-FRI-SUN / TUE-THU-SAT)
NPP - 50 MG EOD / 150-200 WEEK
GH - 3-5 IU ED
INSULINA NO NEED
200-225 6%
TREN ACE - 100 MG ED / 700 MG WEEK
EQ - 700 MG WEEK
TEST.PROP - 75 MG EOD / 225-300 WEEK
NPP - 75 MG EOD / 225-300 WEEK
GH - 6-10 IU ED
INSULIN - 10 IU POSTWORKOUT WITH 100 FAST CARBS
225-250 6%
TREN ACE - 150 MG ED / 1050 MG WEEK
EQ - 1050 MG WEEK
TEST.PROP - 100 MG EOD / 300-400 MG WEEK
NPP - 100 MG EOD / 300-400 MG WEEK
GH 10-15 IU ED
INSULIN - 20-30 IU ED (CLOSER TO 225 USE 20 IU, CLOSER TO 250 USE 30 IU)
Alot of big guys I now do more insulin...they grow...but not good muscle...this is low insulin protocol...maybe this need adjustement from gh15 but the meaning of this post is that the smaller guys should not do pro like cycles. Then can use pro gear though! Hope this helps!
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This!
But we need clarify that this is for the bigger guys, thar are already 225 atleast at 6% going for 250 6%. Guys 200-225 and smaller ones 175-200 both at 6% need lower doses. Something like this:
175 going for 200 6%
TREN ACE - 50 MG ED / 350 MG WEEK
EQ - 350 MG WEEK
TEST.PROP - 50 MG EOD / 150 MG-200 WEEK (MON-WED-FRI-SUN / TUE-THU-SAT)
NPP - 50 MG EOD / 150-200 WEEK
GH - 3-5 IU ED
INSULINA NO NEED
200-225 6%
TREN ACE - 100 MG ED / 700 MG WEEK
EQ - 700 MG WEEK
TEST.PROP - 75 MG EOD / 225-300 WEEK
NPP - 75 MG EOD / 225-300 WEEK
GH - 6-10 IU ED
INSULIN - 10 IU POSTWORKOUT WITH 100 FAST CARBS
225-250 6%
TREN ACE - 150 MG ED / 1050 MG WEEK
EQ - 1050 MG WEEK
TEST.PROP - 100 MG EOD / 300-400 MG WEEK
NPP - 100 MG EOD / 300-400 MG WEEK
GH 10-15 IU ED
INSULIN - 20-30 IU ED (CLOSER TO 225 USE 20 IU, CLOSER TO 250 USE 30 IU)
Alot of big guys I now do more insulin...they grow...but not good muscle...this is low insulin protocol...maybe this need adjustement from gh15 but the meaning of this post is that the smaller guys should not do pro like cycles. Then can use pro gear though! Hope this helps!
i like it ,, it need adjustment but it is very good,, good pupil,, very good ingenral...really impresive posting
gh15 approved
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i like it ,, it need adjustment but it is very good,, good pupil,, very good ingenral...really impresive posting
gh15 approved
I thought this stuff was "controlled substance" or does everyone live outside the USA?
When the doctor had thought of giving me some HRT gel stuff he said I would have to sign for it because it was a "controlled substance". I was and still am too afraid (my levels are as small as me ;D) to take that stuff and have medical problems that now prevent me from such therapies.
I envy big and even normal sized people. :-\
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I thought this stuff was "controlled substance" or does everyone live outside the USA?
When the doctor had thought of giving me some HRT gel stuff he said I would have to sign for it because it was a "controlled substance". I was and still am too afraid (my levels are as small as me ;D) to take that stuff and have medical problems that now prevent me from such therapies.
I envy big and even normal sized people. :-\
You have a losers mentality
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You have a losers mentality
How so. And refrain from some monosyllabic diatribe. Expound upon this as you would any favorite subject of which you have knowledge. Please...
Thank you!
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How so. And refrain from some monosyllabic diatribe. Expound upon this as you would any favorite subject of which you have knowledge. Please...
Thank you!
Fuck that noise ::)
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There is a new language in town: Getbighish!
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Fuck that noise ::)
Wowser... You certainly taught me a lesson - Never try and communicate with a butt monkey.
Run along before I taunt you with words that do not appear in the pathetic fro'baby, ghettoized lexicon of your species.
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My gym is full of guys on juice and almost everyone of them will tell you that their blood work is fine. However, 99% of them are lying sacks of shit and don't have medical insurance and or money to get blood tests done. There out every weekend getting all banged up on pills and booze yet claim their blood work is fine. Epic Lolz
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Wowser... You certainly taught me a lesson - Never try and communicate with a butt monkey.
Run along before I taunt you with words that do not appear in the pathetic fro'baby, ghettoized lexicon of your species.
You try far too hard.
FTN.
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illiterate fuck. drunk or stupid, which is it?
or brokem keys.
sick of this mew techmology really. Gf had same phome wemt through three first year. Switch to a blackberry amd stupid thimg shuts off om odd youtube bids. Amd tham ramdoly freezes too.
my gfs phome. She dropped it om a carpet soft carpet maybe few feet im her hamd. Amd bam the touch screem wasmt workimg.
such a piss off.
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200-225 6%
TREN ACE - 100 MG ED / 700 MG WEEK
EQ - 700 MG WEEK
TEST.PROP - 75 MG EOD / 225-300 WEEK
NPP - 75 MG EOD / 225-300 WEEK
GH - 6-10 IU ED
INSULIN - 10 IU POSTWORKOUT WITH 100 FAST CARBS
I am 225lbs 6% and use much less than this. all i need is 70mg prop ed, 80mg tren ed, and 5iu hgh ed. What height are you considering here? you never mentioned it
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I am 225lbs 6% and use much less than this. all i need is 70mg prop ed, 80mg tren ed, and 5iu hgh ed. What height are you considering here? you never mentioned it
are you sic foot. Sic foot ome btw
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average bb height 5.10ish same as gh15 uses...itīs not written in stone i have been 225 and used lower than this...but i could improve alot at the same weight from doing it this way...
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I ecplaim this so mamy times lol.
split water om my phome my keys are messed. I keep debatomg a mew phome but I lobe this ome. Its like half black berry half iphome. Free apps. Got a keyboard but its mot side ways so its like iphome touch screem amd so om. Amd cam use emulators for old smes games or game boy games etc.
I loe this phome. I'm om the imtermet for hours om it.
rly till you lose the key that looks like a half m. You domt realize how much you use it lol.
Are you attempting to explain that the bunch of gibberish in your posts is all because your phone is broken? If that were true and you still "lobe" it so much, you must be nuts. You do realize that what you post is next to impossible to comprehend, don't you?
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I thought this stuff was "controlled substance" or does everyone live outside the USA?
When the doctor had thought of giving me some HRT gel stuff he said I would have to sign for it because it was a "controlled substance". I was and still am too afraid (my levels are as small as me ;D) to take that stuff and have medical problems that now prevent me from such therapies.
I envy big and even normal sized people. :-\
I am on HRT. I live in the U.S. I inject 150 mg testosterone cypionate weekly. Like with any prescription, one must sign for it when it is picked up from the pharmacy.
Everyone reacts differently to medications. This is why it is best to be under a doctor's care where you do regular lab work and are monitored. I was on d-bol at sixteen years of age, prescribed by our family doctor. Over the course of my lifetime, I have done a little less than half a dozen cycles of d-bol with no side affects. However, the dosage was considerably lower than what folks talk about using here. A friend of mine also took d-bol. His liver enzymes were immediately messed up.
One good thing about the liver is that it can take a fair amount of abuse and come back fine. It is the one organ in our body which can heal itself. However, too much abuse and you've got cirrhosis or liver cancer. Unfortunately, one cannot live without their liver.
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Liver toxicity is greatly exaggerated. I took superdrol at 30mg for 3 weeks and my liver was over 3x the normal range for both ast and alt. 3 weeks later, both were back in the normal range. As long as you aren't on for a really long time at a high dose, all you need to do is come off and your liver will be good as new. I have blood work to prove this point
weird...steroid tolerance msut be genetic
I ran h-drol + sdrol for 10 weeks ( 6 -6 with 2 weeks in mid hdrol cycle off, sdrol begin). Liver values were spotless when i got tested at ER. Had a shitton of schoolwork toward the end of semester so I popped ritalin and basically forgot to eat food for 1-2 days. Boom fever.
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weird...steroid tolerance msut be genetic
I ran h-drol + sdrol for 10 weeks ( 6 -6 with 2 weeks in mid hdrol cycle off, sdrol begin). Liver values were spotless when i got tested at ER. Had a shitton of schoolwork toward the end of semester so I popped ritalin and basically forgot to eat food for 1-2 days. Boom fever.
yes it is....
i have ran test very very high when i was younger.... never gyno, never hair that fel out.... never any problems. i took 2 sustanons a day at that time... all i got was bloofy lol!
also dbol at 100 mg a day , never any problems..
i knew dudes that got gyno from only looking at a test filled vial! lol!
but i feel like shit on eq..... lol.. go figure....
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weird...steroid tolerance msut be genetic
I ran h-drol + sdrol for 10 weeks ( 6 -6 with 2 weeks in mid hdrol cycle off, sdrol begin). Liver values were spotless when i got tested at ER. Had a shitton of schoolwork toward the end of semester so I popped ritalin and basically forgot to eat food for 1-2 days. Boom fever.
wait you had bloods done DURING that? There is no way they could have been spotless. How much sdrol did you run? I had a bloody nose as 20 days and had to stop. Best gains of my life in 20 days though
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Lyquids created a new language!
Getbiglish
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ive been taking dbol for 6 weeks @40mg and was planning on stopping this week but ive heard of ppl goin upwards of 100mg for as long as 10 weeks, sometimes even 12.
i would like to hear from more of the experienced oral users...also SD users are hardcore too...
40mg a day is nominal. You can make gains on it for sure, if you eat well and train hard. But don't be afraid to up it to 80-100mg a day - no problem at all.
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weird...steroid tolerance msut be genetic
I ran h-drol + sdrol for 10 weeks ( 6 -6 with 2 weeks in mid hdrol cycle off, sdrol begin). Liver values were spotless when i got tested at ER. Had a shitton of schoolwork toward the end of semester so I popped ritalin and basically forgot to eat food for 1-2 days. Boom fever.
ya same mam. I'm always fuckim fime too.
my doc does toms of shit liber. Blood. Kdimeys creatime test lebels I camt ebem mame all the shit he does. He does a huge oberall check om like eberythimg I domt ebem kmo what the half the shit is he checks for lol.
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too bad a new one didnt make the cut on your xmas list
LMAO hahahahah
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OP- I think this is a very good question, most of the best,really big bodybuilders before the GH era abused the fuck out of orals. Gh15 takes about igf levels hgh makes in the liver, well orals do this as well through you guessed it (the liver)....,, actually orals increase igf levels more so than injectable steroids for the first 3-4 weeks of use, than at that point it stops going backward and igf levels decline, another reason you dont get shit out of orals past a couple week mark. 3-4 weeks for me....
Of course orals do not do this to the degree HGH does, nowhere close :D ..., I dont think any bodybuilder who doesnt use hgh and relies on plain old steroids, will ever reach their full potential without orals. I dont think Menzer,vic richards,arnold, all those guys would have been as large as they were, without using lots of orals. disgusted said orals were used alot more back then than today's guys.
I recall reading a study on adult rats that in rats, who had their pituaitary removed Dianabol had little anabolic effect. It's very possible that one reason why dbol works so well in the real world, and doesnt look like a great drug on paper is because of how dramatically it increases growth hormone levels. No mystery when you take a 23 year old guy and put 15iu of HGH in him, his body goes fucking nuts with the shit.
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I thought this stuff was "controlled substance" or does everyone live outside the USA?
When the doctor had thought of giving me some HRT gel stuff he said I would have to sign for it because it was a "controlled substance". I was and still am too afraid (my levels are as small as me ;D) to take that stuff and have medical problems that now prevent me from such therapies.
I envy big and even normal sized people. :-\
before they were ratted out, there were some florida based HRT clinics scripting a gram a week, anadrol, var, winny etc to patients. All human grade, all ridiculously expensive but all technically legal until the DEA got involved.
the government hates you having TRT and the laws are getting stricter. I've even heard from my HRT clinic that half the US producers of HGH will be shutting down production in 2012 because of insurance not wanting to pay (good news for the chinese fakers)
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wait you had bloods done DURING that? There is no way they could have been spotless. How much sdrol did you run? I had a bloody nose as 20 days and had to stop. Best gains of my life in 20 days though
Yea, I was worried because I was expecting liver values to be all over the place and doc to freak out. I ran sdrol at 30mg but both AST and ALT were within the normal ranges.
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Yea, I was worried because I was expecting liver values to be all over the place and doc to freak out. I ran sdrol at 30mg but both AST and ALT were within the normal ranges.
you sure they werent bunk? thats crazy
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gonna...buy...some...sdr ol....anadrol...and...ha lo...soon...
judging...by...what's...been...said...I...sh ouldn't...run...all...three... together...?
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are you sic foot. Sic foot ome btw
no 5'10
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I am on HRT. I live in the U.S. I inject 150 mg testosterone cypionate weekly. Like with any prescription, one must sign for it when it is picked up from the pharmacy.
Everyone reacts differently to medications. This is why it is best to be under a doctor's care where you do regular lab work and are monitored. I was on d-bol at sixteen years of age, prescribed by our family doctor. Over the course of my lifetime, I have done a little less than half a dozen cycles of d-bol with no side affects. However, the dosage was considerably lower than what folks talk about using here. A friend of mine also took d-bol. His liver enzymes were immediately messed up.
One good thing about the liver is that it can take a fair amount of abuse and come back fine. It is the one organ in our body which can heal itself. However, too much abuse and you've got cirrhosis or liver cancer. Unfortunately, one cannot live without their liver.
one thing I always wondered, how does the liver heal itself when you come off orals and continue to run high doses of injectables? Like if I ran 1.5 grams of test and a gram of deca year round, with dbol 6 weeks on 6 weeks off, would the liver really heal itself on 2 grams of injectabls a week? I know test and deca are not liver toxic per say, but is it really gonna allow you to recover as if you were to go off cold turkey like literature reccomends? not "crusing"
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gonna...buy...some...sdrol....anadrol...and...halo...soon...
judging...by...what's...been...said...I...sh ouldn't...run...all...three... together...?
your a young guy, get some dbol and get thick my man, it will get you big full and round all by itself.
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your a young guy, get some dbol and get thick my man, it will get you big full and round all by itself.
dianabol by itself will only work if lean lean fella,, any other wsy you become bloof ball and just dnt look like bodybuild,, anadrola is a much much better hormone for what you fellas looking for ,, especialy the fellas on hgh and especialy the fellsas in the singles
first thing you shoudl hear on anadrol is ...you are tight! then the second thing wil be ...i can relly see you are low bodyfat ...then the third thing you will hear on anadrol is that you are thick eventhough tight....and the forth thing you will hear is the sentence...IT LOOKS NICE,, you look very nice
this is the power of anadrol on a single digit bodybuild
gh15 approved
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there wil be fifth thing you wil hear on anadrola but this is only if gh in blood and primed right...
you will hear the sentence,,
you look like a freak and or do not get too freaky on us,, this is comon sentence reseve to bodybuild on anadrola added to hgh
gh15 approved
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your a young guy, get some dbol and get thick my man, it will get you big full and round all by itself.
yeah...as...gh15...wrote ...i'm...scared...of...being. ..bloofy...that's...why...I'm...thinking...about...s drol...and...anadrol...
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you sure they werent bunk? thats crazy
Beastdrol (mr supps) was the clone I used and I am sure it wasn't bunk. Squat went from 315 for 3-4 reps to 365lbs for 3-4 reps. Gained about 30lbs, 10 lbs waterweight, 5lbs fat, 15 muscle.
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yeah...as...gh15...wrote...i'm...scared...of...being. ..bloofy...that's...why...I'm...thinking...about...s drol...and...anadrol...
you get big and full from hgh.... 3d look...
dbol , high test, anadrol... without hgh in your blood will result in bloofy beyond repair BRR!
done it been there..
use test prop start at 50 mg eod.
eq 600-900 mg a week.
tren 150 mg eod.
you will get a nice lean physique that way
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you get big and full from hgh.... 3d look...
dbol , high test, anadrol... without hgh in your blood will result in bloofy beyond repair BRR!
done it been there..
use test prop start at 50 mg eod.
eq 600-900 mg a week.
tren 150 mg eod.
you will get a nice lean physique that way
lol...that's...exactly...what...I'm...running...except...i t's...tren...at...100...mg ...EOD...will...be...bum ping...it...up...once... I...order...more...
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100 mg dbol/day? powerlifets on olm saying they couldnt take the pumps on 40 mg of nordic's dbol, had to cut down to 25
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100 mg dbol/day? powerlifets on olm saying they couldnt take the pumps on 40 mg of nordic's dbol, had to cut down to 25
well... they lie! lol..... ;D
25 mg of dbol is nothing.... really...
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yeah probably lol
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im goin to bump the dbol to 60mg ...lets see how it goes...ill keep ya posted...
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im goin to bump the dbol to 60mg ...lets see how it goes...ill keep ya posted...
are you sure? your liver might melt... :o :o :o
seriously, what else are you using bro?
just dbol....???
if so, stop!
orals are to complement a cycle of injectables... they suck as a stand alone....
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are you sure? your liver might melt... :o :o :o
seriously, what else are you using bro?
just dbol....???
if so, stop!
orals are to complement a cycle of injectables... they suck as a stand alone....
maybe be better off grinding them down and injecting with cell tech together...
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100 mg dbol/day? powerlifets on olm saying they couldnt take the pumps on 40 mg of nordic's dbol, had to cut down to 25
Increase taurine and potassium intake which will help with back pumps.
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are you sure? your liver might melt... :o :o :o
before I started deca was using dbol alone for few weeks about two. Fucking loved it. Lean yet ful muscle gains were goimg good was surprized.
gh 15 has also said oral only isn't bad. He's said he's used dbol only and its still the only one drug that can put as much weight as it does on you with one drug alone.
but of course this is his older post. So hell change his mind now haha...
trust me read every single post multiple times and I remember shit. His words exacty. He says oral only cycles arnt bad at all
seriously, what else are you using bro?
just dbol....???
if so, stop!
orals are to complement a cycle of injectables... they suck as a stand alone....
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OP- I think this is a very good question, most of the best,really big bodybuilders before the GH era abused the fuck out of orals. Gh15 takes about igf levels hgh makes in the liver, well orals do this as well through you guessed it (the liver)....,, actually orals increase igf levels more so than injectable steroids for the first 3-4 weeks of use, than at that point it stops going backward and igf levels decline, another reason you dont get shit out of orals past a couple week mark. 3-4 weeks for me....
Of course orals do not do this to the degree HGH does, nowhere close :D ..., I dont think any bodybuilder who doesnt use hgh and relies on plain old steroids, will ever reach their full potential without orals. I dont think Menzer,vic richards,arnold, all those guys would have been as large as they were, without using lots of orals. disgusted said orals were used alot more back then than today's guys.
I recall reading a study on adult rats that in rats, who had their pituaitary removed Dianabol had little anabolic effect. It's very possible that one reason why dbol works so well in the real world, and doesnt look like a great drug on paper is because of how dramatically it increases growth hormone levels. No mystery when you take a 23 year old guy and put 15iu of HGH in him, his body goes fucking nuts with the shit.
my thoughts are this another drinking comparison: 2 people 1st one drinks 10 beers in 6 hours ? Okay give the 2nd person 10 shots in one hour? who gets the drunkest? I think orals and esterless steroids work the same way just bombard the androgen recpetor in a short amount of time and illicts a good growth response. I dont feel injectalbe steroids with no gh will get you very far just my opinion maybe if you shoot enough tren to make you nuts or esterless injects which imo should probaly be much more popular.
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my thoughts are this another drinking comparison: 2 people 1st one drinks 10 beers in 6 hours ? Okay give the 2nd person 10 shots in one hour? who gets the drunkest? I think orals and esterless steroids work the same way just bombard the androgen recpetor in a short amount of time and illicts a good growth response. I dont feel injectalbe steroids with no gh will get you very far just my opinion maybe if you shoot enough tren to make you nuts or esterless injects which imo should probaly be much more popular.
well back then they did not know any better..... lol!
bodybuild is all about STABLE blood values..... stable!
with orals it's jumping up and down.... because it never gets utilized in the same way.. it depends on how much you ate, on which part of the day you take them , how much liquid you take with it etc etc...
in an ideal world one will take them before a meal on a empty stomach... but we all know how hectic life can be... right?
inject steroids and they are where you want them to be, in your mucles! in the bloodstream very , very fast!
esterless like directly, and with ester at a nice steady pace..... STABLE!!
i do not know any big dude that uses a lot of orals honestly.... most i know hate them!
gives them stomach issues at high doses.... and really why use dbol, anadrol(well has it's place before a show) winstrol(worthless alltogether) when you can use test/tren/npp/eq/etc etc etc...
and the mass you gain with dbol and anadrol is for the most part water..... lol.... stop taking it and you will see what i mean...
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well back then they did not know any better..... lol!
bodybuild is all about STABLE blood values..... stable!
with orals it's jumping up and down.... because it never gets utilized in the same way.. it depends on how much you ate, on which part of the day you take them , how much liquid you take with it etc etc...
in an ideal world one will take them before a meal on a empty stomach... but we all know how hectic life can be... right?
inject steroids and they are where you want them to be, in your mucles! in the bloodstream very , very fast!
esterless like directly, and with ester at a nice steady pace..... STABLE!!
i do not know any big dude that uses a lot of orals honestly.... most i know hate them!
gives them stomach issues at high doses.... and really why use dbol, anadrol(well has it's place before a show) winstrol(worthless alltogether) when you can use test/tren/npp/eq/etc etc etc...
and the mass you gain with dbol and anadrol is for the most part water..... lol.... stop taking it and you will see what i mean...
So what's the best oral for dry lean gains and ZERO bloat? Var? Superdrol? Halo?
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So what's the best oral for dry lean gains and ZERO bloat? Var? Superdrol? Halo?
my guess would be oral turinabol....
stay away from all these designer steroids man!
there is a reason why pharm companies did not go on and produce these compounds for medical use!!!!!!
a lot of these compounds have serious sides......
stick to the known compounds.
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Beastdrol (mr supps) was the clone I used and I am sure it wasn't bunk. Squat went from 315 for 3-4 reps to 365lbs for 3-4 reps. Gained about 30lbs, 10 lbs waterweight, 5lbs fat, 15 muscle.
yea beastdrol was the one I used. That shit sure as hell isn't bunk, Ill give you that. I reacted terribly to it, other than crazy fast muscle gains. No appetite (bc of liver), lethargic, and horrific back bumps that I would have just from sitting on the couch. Deadlifts were out of the question for me
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the only thing i know - it is possible to bench 500lbs for 5 reps on anapolon only - but the guy is looking like bloated shit (he never touched a needle in his life because he s scared ::) )
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Had my blood work done on superdrol at 30mg a day after 6 weeks, was using letro as well. Liver was 3x Normal. Doc said 4 months of heavy drinking would cause that. Also my cholesterol went up to 312 :o lipids were all over the place, this was over 220lbs 9% bf at 5'10. Liver was back to normal in 6 weeks and cholesterol was back under 200 in 3 months or so with no meds just good eating and cardio. The doc was amazed lol I refused to take his statin meds ;D
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2k pounds at 5'10, that's a pretty big fella :D
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2k pounds at 5'10, that's a pretty big fella :D
lol - was a hell of a cycle
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lol - was a hell of a cycle
let me guess?
nano technology? ;D
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yea beastdrol was the one I used. That shit sure as hell isn't bunk, Ill give you that. I reacted terribly to it, other than crazy fast muscle gains. No appetite (bc of liver), lethargic, and horrific back bumps that I would have just from sitting on the couch. Deadlifts were out of the question for me
Besides genetic differences ( which are prob overstated ) I bet there are also significant supplementation differences. When i was running beastdrol I ate taurine 6-10 grams a day, magnesium citrate 1-2 grams a day, Vitamin C (1-2g) and Vitamin D - 30-40000 iu a day. This in addition to my multi.
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its common knowledge superdol aka beastdrol alphadogmale is talking about is the strongest oral if not strongest steroid period and promotes lean gains.
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I feel like i may be the only one not using orals
Am i missing out? Lol
When i went on accutane my liver values went crazy. So now im scared orals may fuck me up more without me knowing
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the biggest people I have ever seen gh free abuse orals or know about. Its easy to say because they didnt know better I think its more a case of the tried everything and figured out what worked best. The biggest most powerful humans in the 70S where oral abusers. I Mention the name Superstar Billy Graham a lot he was very massive and what makes him improtent is he was a training partner of arnold and a wwf wrestler and has came clean about his usage in a some what honest manner. Its clear most of his advice came from arnold and friends he abused the shit out of orals. Arnold said about billy grahm he had never seen a stronger individual in his life and this is talked about a lot in by old 70s gold gym people.
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the biggest people I have ever seen gh free abuse orals or know about. Its easy to say because they didnt know better I think its more a case of the tried everything and figured out what worked best. The biggest most powerful humans in the 70S where oral abusers. I Mention the name Superstar Billy Graham a lot he was very massive and what makes him improtent is he was a training partner of arnold and a wwf wrestler and has came clean about his usage in a some what honest manner. Its clear most of his advice came from arnold and friends he abused the shit out of orals. Arnold said about billy grahm he had never seen a stronger individual in his life and this is talked about a lot in by old 70s gold gym people.
Thats right, i have Superstars book and i think he wrote that he would take 30 Dbol tabs per day for years
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I just cant handle superdrol, after 3days I feel nausious and cant eat a thing
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Had my blood work done on superdrol at 30mg a day after 6 weeks, was using letro as well. Liver was 3x Normal. Doc said 4 months of heavy drinking would cause that. Also my cholesterol went up to 312 :o lipids were all over the place, this was over 220lbs 9% bf at 5'10. Liver was back to normal in 6 weeks and cholesterol was back under 200 in 3 months or so with no meds just good eating and cardio. The doc was amazed lol I refused to take his statin meds ;D
Essentially the same exact thing happened with me besides my doctor wanting me on meds
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I just cant handle superdrol, after 3days I feel nausious and cant eat a thing
MOST POTENT ORAL. FEEL LIKE SHIT, BUT LOOK LIKE A MILLION BUCKS.
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So what's the best oral for dry lean gains and ZERO bloat? Var? Superdrol? Halo?
is this a serious question? SD will give you better gains than tren in the short term
MOST POTENT ORAL. FEEL LIKE SHIT, BUT LOOK LIKE A MILLION BUCKS.
x1000
never again
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the biggest people I have ever seen gh free abuse orals or know about. Its easy to say because they didnt know better I think its more a case of the tried everything and figured out what worked best. The biggest most powerful humans in the 70S where oral abusers. I Mention the name Superstar Billy Graham a lot he was very massive and what makes him improtent is he was a training partner of arnold and a wwf wrestler and has came clean about his usage in a some what honest manner. Its clear most of his advice came from arnold and friends he abused the shit out of orals. Arnold said about billy grahm he had never seen a stronger individual in his life and this is talked about a lot in by old 70s gold gym people.
he said she said.... bla bla bla... ::) ::) ::)
beside they're bodybuild... all lie!
what did they use beside the orals?????
megadosing primo, test and deca.... yes that is right....
orals only will get you nowhere....
everything they could get their hands on was used, and used a lot!
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is this a serious question? SD will give you better gains than tren in the short term
x1000
never again
Agreed, would always gain 8 - 10lbs of hard muscle off this shit. But after seeing what it did to my lipids and HDL I'll never use it again.
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Agreed, would always gain 8 - 10lbs of hard muscle off this shit. But after seeing what it did to my lipids and HDL I'll never use it again.
do you know how much muscle that is???
so the pro should use sd instead of 40 iu's of hgh...lol! ;D ;D ;D
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Agreed, would always gain 8 - 10lbs of hard muscle off this shit. But after seeing what it did to my lipids and HDL I'll never use it again.
Are you serious? I'm not talking "bloofy muscle" gains, I'm talking "conditioned muscle" gains, just like this...
An 8-10lb gain of conditioned muscle is ALOT
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When I use superdrol it's 10mg ed for a couple of weeks. You don't need 30mg ed that's why some of you are running into problems.
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lol...not just dbol...test e n dbol.
waiting on this tren e to eventually add that in.
are you sure? your liver might melt... :o :o :o
seriously, what else are you using bro?
just dbol....???
if so, stop!
orals are to complement a cycle of injectables... they suck as a stand alone....
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When I use superdrol it's 10mg ed for a couple of weeks. You don't need 30mg ed that's why some of you are running into problems.
totally agree after my two experiences with it. 20mg should be the max. at least for me
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totally agree after my two experiences with it. 20mg should be the max. at least for me
Try just taking one cap a day. I use beast. I swear to god after 2-3 days I look like a different person. Imagine if the sides weren't so bad. I would abuse the shit out of it. I went to a weekend gettaway with my ex her sister and bunch of their friends. I took beast for like 10 days up until we left. I looked fucken ridicolous when we got there. Great stuff.
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Try just taking one cap a day. I use beast. I swear to god after 2-3 days I look like a different person. Imagine if the sides weren't so bad. I would abuse the shit out of it. I went to a weekend gettaway with my ex her sister and bunch of their friends. I took beast for like 10 days up until we left. I looked fucken ridicolous when we got there. Great stuff.
I did this at 20mg for 20 days before I went on a cruise. It turned out to be a great decision
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lol...not just dbol...test e n dbol.
waiting on this tren e to eventually add that in.
bro..... cancel your order of tren E.
use only TREN A!!
i do not know why as it doesn't make sense.... because it is the same hormone only a diffrent ester.
but i have used both... and by far tren A is much better!
i used tren E at a higher dose and never got the same results as with tren A...
i can not prove it with some research, but i can tell you what i experienced...
bro science ... ;D
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I did this at 20mg for 20 days before I went on a cruise. It turned out to be a great decision
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Did you get any "action" on the cruise???
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Are you serious? I'm not talking "bloofy muscle" gains, I'm talking "conditioned muscle" gains, just like this...
An 8-10lb gain of conditioned muscle is ALOT
Yeah there is very little water retention from this product, doesn't give you the bloofy look at all. It's very harsh though.
There is a chart around here somewhere, legit superdrol comes in just below M1T, Anandrol and Oral tren with how powerful it is.