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Great, just what this country needs... ::) :-X ::) :-X ::)
Great so instead of a 10mg Lortab with 500mg of aceteminaphin it's like 100mg of Lortab minus the aceteminaphin so the potential for abuse is there and it WILL be abused. And they aren't making it tamper proof so addicts will crush and chew, snort or shoot up. ...Just what we fucking need...not good at all.... :-X :-X :-X
Just lovely...
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45791556/ns/today-today_health/t/new-powerful-painkiller-has-abuse-experts-worried/?ocid=ansmsnbc11
NEW YORK — Drug companies are working to develop a pure, more powerful version of a highly abused medicine, which has addiction experts worried that it could spur a new wave of abuse.
The new pills contain the highly addictive painkiller hydrocodone, packing up to 10 times the amount of the drug as existing medications such as Vicodin. Four companies have begun patient testing, and one of them — Zogenix of San Diego — plans to apply early next year to begin marketing its product, Zohydro.
If approved, it would mark the first time patients could legally buy pure hydrocodone. Existing products combine the drug with nonaddictive painkillers such as acetaminophen.
Critics say they are especially worried about Zohydro, a timed-release drug meant for managing moderate to severe pain, because abusers could crush it to release an intense, immediate high.
"I have a big concern that this could be the next OxyContin," said April Rovero, president of the National Coalition Against Prescription Drug Abuse. "We just don't need this on the market."
OxyContin, introduced in 1995 by Purdue Pharma of Stamford, Connecticut, was designed to manage pain with a formula that dribbled one dose of oxycodone over many hours.
Abusers quickly discovered they could defeat the timed-release feature by crushing the pills. Purdue Pharma changed the formula to make OxyContin more tamper-resistant, but addicts have moved onto generic oxycodone and other drugs that do not have a timed-release feature.
Oxycodone is now the most-abused medicine in the United States, with hydrocodone second, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration's annual count of drug seizures sent to police drug labs for analysis.
The latest drug tests come as more pharmaceutical companies are getting into the $10 billion-a-year legal market for powerful — and addictive — opiate narcotics.
"It's like the wild west," said Peter Jackson, co-founder of Advocates for the Reform of Prescription Opioids. "The whole supply-side system is set up to perpetuate this massive unloading of opioid narcotics on the American public."
The pharmaceutical firms say the new hydrocodone drugs give doctors another tool to try on patients in legitimate pain, part of a constant search for better painkillers to treat the aging U.S. population.
"Sometimes you circulate a patient between various opioids, and some may have a better effect than others," said Karsten Lindhardt, chief executive of Denmark-based Egalet, which is testing its own pure hydrocodone product.
The companies say a pure hydrocodone pill would avoid liver problems linked to high doses of acetaminophen, an ingredient in products like Vicodin. They also say patients will be more closely supervised because, by law, they will have to return to their doctors each time they need more pills. Prescriptions for the weaker, hydrocodone-acetaminophen products now on the market can be refilled up to five times.
Zogenix has completed three rounds of patient testing, and last week it announced it had held a final meeting with Food and Drug Administration officials to talk about its upcoming drug application. It plans to file the application in early 2012 and have Zohydro on the market by early 2013.
Purdue Pharma and Cephalon, a Frazer, Pennsylvania-based unit of Israel-based Teva Pharmaceuticals, are conducting late-stage trials of their own hydrocodone drugs, according to documents filed with federal regulators.
Hydrocodone belongs to family of drugs known as opiates or opioids because they are chemically similar to opium. They include morphine, heroin, oxycodone, codeine, methadone and hydromorphone.
Opiates block pain but also unleash intense feelings of well-being and can create physical dependence. The withdrawal symptoms are also intense, with users complaining of cramps, diarrhea, muddled thinking, nausea and vomiting.
After a while, opiates stop working, forcing users to take stronger doses or to try slightly different chemicals.
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damn...
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damn...
They know EXACTLY what they are doing...and it's not for people that need it. BTW the stock is 1.91...I suggest everyone buy, buy buy cause you WILL be rich...Refer to my posting in two years....This is assuming the FDA passes it and they will.
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But they outlaw steroids ???
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just saw an msnbc episode on pills in florida...
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just saw an msnbc episode on pills in florida...
Florida is epiccenter of pills.
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Florida is epiccenter of pills.
Tons of old retired and sick people in Fla. = a ton of money for pill pushing doctors and pharm companies.
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Tons of old retired and sick people in Fla. = a ton of money for pill pushing doctors and pharm companies.
I don't think your average joe realizes how deep the opiod game is in this country. More pills are taken for other than their intended purpose than for their intended purpose...it's really fucked up...I could write a book.
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paracetamol is as strong as you can get over the counter here.
i tried to buy some nightnurse from the chemist the other day. they gave me the fucking 3rd degree for fucking nightnurse ::). i gave up in the end lol
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I don't think your average joe realizes how deep the opiod game is in this country. More pills are taken for other than their intended purpose than for their intended purpose...it's really fucked up...I could write a book.
I hear ya` dude.
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I don't think your average joe realizes how deep the opiod game is in this country. More pills are taken for other than their intended purpose than for their intended purpose...it's really fucked up...I could write a book.
Yeah most of the pill poppers are women :-\
I know a fucking ton of women who pop pills like they're going out of style
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Yeah most of the pill poppers are women :-\
I know a fucking ton of women who pop pills like they're going out of style
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Ever visit other peoples houses and see some of the shit they are on?
I`ve gone to people houses and they are on like 10-20 different pills for different shit......kinda` like some of the drug cycles posted here. :(
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ive never understood how people get hooked on Vikes or percocet or Oxy's, etc., i can take one when i have extreme pain and it zaps the pain but i dont feel "high" from it so i dont want another one after the pain is gone, all of you guys who crush and snort this stuff are nuts.
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ive never understood how people get hooked on Vikes or percocet or Oxy's, etc., i can take one when i have extreme pain and it zaps the pain but i dont feel "high" from it so i dont want another one after the pain is gone, all of you guys who crush and snort this stuff are nuts.
It never starts that way bro...It's all fun and games at first, next thing you know a bitches are turning tricks for pills...crazy world.
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It never starts that way bro...It's all fun and games at first, next thing you know a bitches are turning tricks for pills...crazy world.
believe me man i can understand it thats why you have to limit yourself, i go into it understanding the power these things have and take the absolute MINIMUM needed and only when my pain is so extreme that Motrin wont cover it, i feel for you and anyone who has had to deal with addiction to pain pills, its a bitch, i know it more than you can imagine.
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ive never understood how people get hooked on Vikes or percocet or Oxy's, etc., i can take one when i have extreme pain and it zaps the pain but i dont feel "high" from it so i dont want another one after the pain is gone, all of you guys who crush and snort this stuff are nuts.
Like steroids, some people respond better to certain ones.... its the same thing with regular drugs.
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It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.
Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them
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It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.
Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them
good post 100% correct
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It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.
Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them
that "eating healty" stuff is all well and good when you're healthy already but when youve had a bone broken, torn ligaments, surgery, extreme illness, etc. that bullshit aint doing anything and you need some fucking relief, the key is using the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you need to get by, using 4-5 tablets at a time is dooming yourself to addiction gauranteed.
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that "eating healty" stuff is all well and good when you're healthy already but when youve had a bone broken, torn ligaments, surgery, extreme illness, etc. that bullshit aint doing anything and you need some fucking relief, the key is using the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you need to get by, using 4-5 tablets at a time is dooming yourself to addiction gauranteed.
okay I should of been more clear. I meant more for diagnosis of diseases like autism and MS. You're right about hurt muscles and/or bones
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like anything else its the abusers who put the responsible users and more importantly DOCTORS at risk.
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It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.
Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them
did you hear about the denver international airport? its a secret government facility with miles and miles of underground tunnels where the elite will hide out when the 2012 apocalypse the government has a hand in creating will come about.. the reptilians are coming runningmomm.. !!!
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like anything else its the abusers who give the responsible users and more importantly DOCTORS at risk.
Problem is with these drugs is that that are prescribed like candy turning normal people into addict. There are more abusers than there are responsible users...that is a problem. But too much money is being made and nothing will be done until things are much worse and it's very bad right now.
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did you hear about the denver international airport? its a secret government facility with miles and miles of underground tunnels where the elite will hide out when the 2012 apocalypse the government has a hand in creating will come about.. the reptilians are coming runningmomm.. !!!
oh great, does this mean I should give fuck all and be my old obese self by the end of 2012.. ;D
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oh great, does this mean I should give fuck all and be my old obese self by the end of 2012.. ;D
Why do you think I don't have a job? Why should I? It's all over in year baby I'm goin' out like a G.
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Why do you think I don't have a job? Why should I? It's all over in year baby I'm goin' out like a G.
LMAO, wiggles, you crack me up
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oh great, does this mean I should give fuck all and be my old obese self by the end of 2012.. ;D
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It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.
Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them
Jenny McCarthy diagnosis.
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Jenny McCarthy diagnosis.
not at all. It's first hand research and a few friends that have done research Chimps. My best friend in SD was diagnosed with MS in April, her whole system shut down. She was put on meds and steroids. After a few days she knew she didn't want to depend on anything. Did research, changed her eating habits. Mostly organic food, dehydrates her food and has great recipes for it. Guess what, she just started driving and back to work and is doing extremely well. I heard about mercury in shots while I was pregnant. Not one of my daughters shots had mercury, guess what. She's never ever had an ear infection, never the flu, 4 colds in her 6 short years. A friend of mine has a autistic child (minor), after reviewing diet, kid is completely off drugs, functioning much better.
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I think a good diet will cure or at least slow down a lot of maladies.
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These pills are blatantly made for nothing but abuse. Incredible.
I guess Big Pharma really does have no shame lol
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not at all. It's first hand research and a few friends that have done research Chimps. My best friend in SD was diagnosed with MS in April, her whole system shut down. She was put on meds and steroids. After a few days she knew she didn't want to depend on anything. Did research, changed her eating habits. Mostly organic food, dehydrates her food and has great recipes for it. Guess what, she just started driving and back to work and is doing extremely well. I heard about mercury in shots while I was pregnant. Not one of my daughters shots had mercury, guess what. She's never ever had an ear infection, never the flu, 4 colds in her 6 short years. A friend of mine has a autistic child (minor), after reviewing diet, kid is completely off drugs, functioning much better.
Stick with CDC prevalences and stats, not anecdotal, internet fear-mongering. ;)
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runningmom is right.
modern "medicine", lol what a joke.
after watching this video I'm thinking of turning all naturel my self :-X
start 03:09
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These pills are blatantly made for nothing but abuse. Incredible.
I guess Big Pharma really does have no shame lol
unless you go into their use understanding the dangers, use the bare minimum and you will be fine, fight any attempt your body gives you to use more.
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These pills are blatantly made for nothing but abuse. Incredible.
I guess Big Pharma really does have no shame lol
tell a chemo patient that or someone who has had multiple bones broken in a car accident that, its easy to talk when youve never been in need.
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the government is poisoning you, they created aids, they put it in the water supply, the hospitals treat you with virus infested medications, the only way to life forever is to eat oatmeal.
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globalization and free trade is the devil, government programs are inherently flawed, economics is the tool of oppression, banks only serve the interests of the wealthy, anarchism and the destruction of economic infrastructure is the true path to prosperity !
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tell a chemo patient that or someone who has had multiple bones broken in a car accident that, its easy to talk when youve never been in need.
Oh no, I get ya. I actually have chronic neurological pain and do appreciate a painkiller that isn't chalk full of NSAIDs. However, that's the inherent problem with that class of drug anyway... it works fantastic, for a short period of time. Then you're hooked whether you're a junky or not. I know a very small percentage of people will try using this appropriately, but by and large it's a drug that's meant to be abused. My interim solution is to use marijuana for my pain. I already smoke and love it, and it truly does offer analgesic pain. I can function in public with it and no one can tell that I'm "medicating" unless I smoke or eat too much and can't control the red eye.
PS. I do keep a small quantity of serious pain killers on hand. I only have a very small prescription and told my doctor I'm not a drug seeker - I have my medical marijuana card and that pretty much does the trick. For those sticky situations I have some powerful narcotics to add to the mix, but I don't like being completely sloshed in public. I usually save them for a movie night and abuse them every once in a blue moon for recreational purposes. 8)
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The aceteminaphin never stopped anyone I know from abusing the shit out of hydrocodone.
Where I am at, they prescribe them like candy to whoever goes in and asks for them, and popping 4 10's every 2-4 hours is not uncommon for many people.
The only change that is going to happen with this new megadose pill is people are just going to be taking less total pills than they usually do.
I'm surprised this is even news, hydrocodone isn't very fashionable these days. Anybody who's anybody in the pill head world moved onto oxy ages ago.
Changing OC's to the tamper proof OP's just led to a 1,895,652x increase in the prescribing of Oxy IR.
The pharm industry needs its doped up clientele to continue to be able to stay high and keep getting more meds. If they make everything tamper proof and low
dose, they'll go out of business. Out of every single person I know that is a pill head, not a SINGLE one of them actually has chronic pain issues.
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humans are responsible for what they do, ultimately. Without faith, education, confidence, father figures, stable families, they abuse everything and constantly look for shortcuts that never work.
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I don't think your average joe realizes how deep the opiod game is in this country. More pills are taken for other than their intended purpose than for their intended purpose...it's really fucked up...I could write a book.
Quoted for truth!! I'm out in the sticks on the border of CT/RI and my doctor had 100 patients for opiate addiction. How bad is it in mayor cities?! They did a good thing by making the oxys so you cant snort them though. What's the potency of this new pill compared to an Oxy 80? And you aren't kidding about buying the stock Wiggins
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white widow has written every pharmaceutical company asking them test it on him
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Palumbo approved.
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2012
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humans are responsible for what they do, ultimately. Without faith, education, confidence, father figures, stable families, they abuse everything and constantly look for shortcuts that never work.
Yes...and the perfect humans among us spend their days pointing fingers on a bodybuilding forum ::)
My god shut the fuck UP already, we get it
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YEs and no.
The tylenol is with the hydrocodone as a synergistic effect...
The tylenol is what makes vicodin dangerous. When you overdose on vicodin...you go into liver failure from liver toxicity.
I'll ask some pharmacists to see what they think...
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humans are responsible for what they do, ultimately. Without faith, education, confidence, father figures, stable families, they abuse everything and constantly look for shortcuts that never work.
Shut your whore mouth, ubercunt.
People unfortunately have blind faith in their GPs because they're supposedly educated individuals employed to diagnose, tend to and monitor one's illnesses. Unfortunately not every GP has this sort of altruistic focus, and laypeople shouldn't be held solely responsible as they do not have a higher level of understanding. I am hypercritical and even I wouldn't scold someone if they became addicted to opiates. It happens a lot faster than you'd think.
Opiates are also a savagely addictive drug. I knew this first hand, which is why I never used them as my primary form of medication. Others, unfortunately, aren't so lucky. There were times when I did use opiates as I ran out of options and I couldn't believe how fast I became addicted to them. I had static migraines after trying to taper off and titrate my doses of medication and I had only used them for less than a week. Others who aren't as educated or self controlling get hooked on these pills to a point where they literally CAN'T come off. So you shut your fucking wrote mouth or I'll rip your fucking guts out and slap you in the face with them.
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Florida is epiccenter of pills.
THIS I use to live in Florida and i refuse to have back surgery and could/can still get any pain pill i want.
FUCK PAIN PILLS >:( >:(
DR'S give em" out out like fucking candy. :-\ :-\
I had people going through my cabinets looking for any type of pain pill.
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Isn't this Wiggs guy a drug addict as it is? Why is he complaining?
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Florida is epiccenter of pills.
My last TRT doctor lost his licence because of florida junkies
the DEA were busting a florida pharmacy for being part of a scrip mill and they found the records for the TRT clinic - of course middle age men getting weekly test shots and 2ius of hgh a day was a much bigger public danger than thousands of oxy junkies so they decided to put the resources into busting that doctor instead of the original pill mill. Go USA
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Isn't this Wiggs guy a drug addict as it is? Why is he complaining?
Cause with your mother all doped up, she wont be able to work the streets to bring me my money...
Now pack your lunch and go to bed boy.
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maybe the powers that be want a nation of addicts.
help to further broaden the gap between classes, after all the demographic that would probably be most affected by this would be lower/middle class. the less money they have, the less power they have.
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God, I've never seen so much retard in one thread.
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It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.
Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them
What a load of rubbish.
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Cause with your mother all doped up, she wont be able to work the streets to bring me my money...
Now pack your lunch and go to bed boy.
"Mother insults" are a holdover from the plantations. Really don't have much bite when used on a Caucasian. Try another strategy.
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Good watch from Current TV
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They know EXACTLY what they are doing...and it's not for people that need it. BTW the stock is 1.91...I suggest everyone buy, buy buy cause you WILL be rich...Refer to my posting in two years....This is assuming the FDA passes it and they will.
thats what I did whn oxycontin came out I bought stock. also bought stock in suboxone. hydrocodone sucks! norcos wich have 10mg hydrocodone/325 acetiminophin are crap even if you take 10 of them. and there has always been ways of filtering out the aceteminophin. its just a shit drug altogether. just get prescribed oxycontiin and get the gneric apotex brand wich are made by purdue so its the same exact stuff they stopped making they just make it for small companys willing to take the risk. purdue just sells shitty op's but you can still get real OC's under the apotex brand.oxycontin is pretty much 30% pure synthetic heroin. better than most all heroin on the streets.an 80mg oxycontin tab weighs 256mg making it roughly 30% synthetic heroin the fillers make up the other 170mg id just filler that burns away 30% sounds low but in actuality is very high.
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An acquaintance who happens to be and opiate addict once told me hydrocodone injected is pretty close to heroin.
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unless you go into their use understanding the dangers, use the bare minimum and you will be fine, fight any attempt your body gives you to use more.
Thats the problem...there should be pain meds that work without addiction---and even now, it seems that the theory on pain (eletrical impulses-Hodgkin-Huxley model) will be overturned by the Heimburg-Jackson Theory...it seems that there maybe other ways of nullifying pain---like using soundwaves...pills aren't the only solution---making a car accident victim into a addict who pawns her parents china ain't the way to go
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Good to see all the "experts" weighing in.
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the pills i said i used to down with caugh syrup were hydrocodone, they didn't do much for me
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Thats the problem...there should be pain meds that work without addiction---and even now, it seems that the theory on pain (eletrical impulses-Hodgkin-Huxley model) will be overturned by the Heimburg-Jackson Theory...it seems that there maybe other ways of nullifying pain---like using soundwaves...pills aren't the only solution---making a car accident victim into a addict who pawns her parents china ain't the way to go
Pharma companies dont make money by fixing people.
They make money by continuing treatment
Plain and simple. Our whole country runs on the basis of making the most dollars - including the health industry.
a couple months sales fixing the problem just doesnt compare to a lifetimes worth of treatment.
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Tons of old retired and sick people in Fla. = a ton of money for pill pushing doctors and pharm companies.
Many many people fly to Florida from all over the states every month just to stand in line and pay the Doctor a few hundred dollars to write them their monthly script. Its a huge money maker. Addicts sell half their shit(a buck a milligram) and do the other half themselves each month. They need to cut the head off the snake down in Florida and get it under control.
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Pharma companies dont make money by fixing people.
They make money by continuing treatment
Plain and simple. Our whole country runs on the basis of making the most dollars - including the health industry.
a couple months sales fixing the problem just doesnt compare to a lifetimes worth of treatment.
tell me genius what do you propose people in extreme pain to do? yoga? meditation? accupuncture" tell me Mr. High and Mighty who has never been in extreme pain.
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whats the big deal about pain. i once had tooth pulled without painkillers, it was a small one, but still
my friend's mom complains about pain all day long, she says she has fiber myalgia or whatever, it's a made up disease, she sits around and collects unemployment because of it and has scrips for pain killers, anti depressants, she's just another drug addict like ww
it's not about pain, when i have pain i don't reach for a pain killer, i think almost everyone takes pain killers to get high
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maybe the powers that be want a nation of addicts.
help to further broaden the gap between classes, after all the demographic that would probably be most affected by this would be lower/middle class. the less money they have, the less power they have.
it affects everyone, Rush Limbaugh has more money than anyone on this board COMBINED, the man blows his nose with 100 dollar bills and even he was addicted to Oxy's.
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whats the big deal about pain. i once had tooth pulled without painkillers, it was a small one, but still
my friend's mom complains about pain all day long, she says she has fiber myalgia or whatever, it's a made up disease, she sits around and collects unemployment because of it and has scrips for pain killers, anti depressants, she's just another drug addict like ww
it's not about pain, when i have pain i don't reach for a pain killer, i think almost everyone takes pain killers to get high
lol, a pulled tooth? get the fuck out of here with that shit, try having your fucking femur break in half and sticking through your skin or dealing with chemo from bone cancer, then tell me how you werent in much pain, dont talk shit until youre in the situation, youd be crying like a bitch.
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But they outlaw steroids ???
Ooops. Sorry, that's my fault. If I can't be huge and powerful no one can... ;D
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uh... so u fell off your bike, broke ur femur... and u reached for an oxy?
i've had many many injuires, i've been in surgery, there are times for pain killers to treat an accute, present event, then there are pain killers that u take home in a bottle, what the fuck is this for?
i've never ever needed that, i dont think anyone really needs it, i think they just take them to get high
in withdrawal they feel pain of course, they go ouch doctor my back hurts since i've stopped taking the pills
no shit because you're in withdrawal
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uh... so u fell off your bike, broke ur femur... and u reached for an oxy?
i've had many many injuires, i've been in surgery, there are times for pain killers to treat an accute, present event, then there are pain killers that u take home in a bottle, what the fuck is this for?
i've never ever needed that, i dont think anyone really needs it, i think they just take them to get high
in withdrawal they feel pain of course, they go ouch doctor my back hurts since i've stopped taking the pills
no shit because you're in withdrawal
you're full of shit, i can tell by your judgemental tone of voice that youve never been in brutal pain or had a loved one in pain, i dont care how many tales you make up, youre like any other mortal human being, in ENOUGH pain you'll be crying for relief, plain and simple.
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lol, a pulled tooth? get the fuck out of here with that shit, try having your fucking femur break in half and sticking through your skin or dealing with chemo from bone cancer, then tell me how you werent in much pain, dont talk shit until youre in the situation, youd be crying like a bitch.
Lol.
Pwnd.
But Apply talks out of his ass all the time, and he's wrong more often than not. Lol.
You can tell kid hasnt had a lot of life experience.
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whats the big deal about pain. i once had tooth pulled without painkillers, it was a small one, but still
my friend's mom complains about pain all day long, she says she has fiber myalgia or whatever, it's a made up disease, she sits around and collects unemployment because of it and has scrips for pain killers, anti depressants, she's just another drug addict like ww
it's not about pain, when i have pain i don't reach for a pain killer, i think almost everyone takes pain killers to get high
Sorry, man. But in the last 6 months you've dwindled down to the point where you can't be described as anything other than a complete fucking idiot. I used to like your posts but now you're either trolling or really, really fucking stupid.
Neurological diseases are not made up. Mine is so bad it's seriously lead me to contemplate suicide. I'm awesome with pain, but when you have 11/10 pain to the point where you're writhing in agony for days on end without sleep, it'll do things to you. The pain sometimes doesn't end no matter what I do. It's made bodybuilding really tough for me, but I keep plugging away. People misunderstand and think I just have headaches because I don't drink enough water or get enough sleep... right. You think I wouldn't do anything about it? I'd love to smash your fucking skull in just the way mine was, that way you can feel the pain I feel every day. Only then will you understand. May I smash your fucking skull in so you can have better insights? It would be my pleasure.
Also, a tooth ache is NOTHING compared to a real neurological disease where your body's PAIN EPICENTER is going haywire and telling your body that you're in excruciating pain. You're in no position to say otherwise, because even the top researchers fielding this area have barely scratched the surface. You're such a fucking idiot.
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dumbass, what tales, you feel judged by me because you're some weak ass criminal who loves pain killers
like i said, there's appropriate times for pain killers, like during surgery, when u have cancer, when something IMMEDIATE happens like breaking ur leg
but when ur leg gets put together, and ur going home, that bottle of pills u go home with - that's weakness in a bottle, u dont need it
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dumbass, what tales, you feel judged by me because you're some weak ass criminal who loves pain killers
like i said, there's appropriate times for pain killers, like during surgery, when u have cancer, when something IMMEDIATE happens like breaking ur leg
but when ur leg gets put together, and ur going home, that bottle of pills u go home with - that's weakness in a bottle, u dont need it
If you don't want your head smashed in like mine was, I would be delighted to break your femur so you can understand how painful it is and how long the pain resides? :)
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tooth ache? had my tooth PULLED with no gas, no shot of nothing when I was 13 or so
there's appropriate times for pain meds, like I said, then there's inappropriate times i think 90% of all pain pills are taken for the purposes of getting high, even if there is pain to be treated, the real purpose is to get high
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If you don't want your head smashed in like mine was, I would be delighted to break your femur so you can understand how painful it is and how long the pain resides? :)
rofl, mentally weak AND violent? bro u got problems that oxy can't solve lol
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dumbass, what tales, you feel judged by me because you're some weak ass criminal who loves pain killers
like i said, there's appropriate times for pain killers, like during surgery, when u have cancer, when something IMMEDIATE happens like breaking ur leg
but when ur leg gets put together, and ur going home, that bottle of pills u go home with - that's weakness in a bottle, u dont need it
No, youre the fucking dumbass, its become quite apparent you dont know shit.
Either you have ZERO life experience, never struggled, never known what desperation is like, or youre just a plain fucking idiot. You talk out of your ass all the time, many times obviously with ZERO experience.
Now go ahead, get on your moral soapbox and list to me all the struggles youve had in your life to try and defend yourself. Im waiting.
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dumbass, what tales, you feel judged by me because you're some weak ass criminal who loves pain killers
like i said, there's appropriate times for pain killers, like during surgery, when u have cancer, when something IMMEDIATE happens like breaking ur leg
but when ur leg gets put together, and ur going home, that bottle of pills u go home with - that's weakness in a bottle, u dont need it
hahahaaa, dude i hope you never find out what extreme pain is because i dont wish that on anyone but with your attitude youre bound to get a real eye opening experience.
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Lol.
Pwnd.
But Apply talks out of his ass all the time, and he's wrong more often than not. Lol.
You can tell kid hasnt had a lot of life experience.
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guy was outed as a 26 year old from Kazakhstan who weighs a buck fifty and lives with his dad in new york
offers opinion on nearly every subject thinking it carries a lot of weight- totally hilarious since he is clueless and trolling most of the time
don't take him seriously and don't encourage him :)
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tooth ache? had my tooth PULLED with no gas, no shot of nothing when I was 13 or so
there's appropriate times for pain meds, like I said, then there's inappropriate times i think 90% of all pain pills are taken for the purposes of getting high, even if there is pain to be treated, the real purpose is to get high
I'm immune to whatever it is they gas people with when their teeth are pulled. I had 4 pulled before I got braces. Hurt like a bitch too, but it's NOTHING compared to breaking your femur or unstoppable, unrelenting neurological pain.
What is it that you don't understand? Your body has pain receptors. And some people's pain receptors are turned on, permanently. You don't think they need pain killers?
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outed? i said it myself a hundred times
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outed? i said it myself a hundred times
That you have the body of an insignificant pussy, but the strength and pain resistance of a Greek God.
Is that a correct depiction?
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dont get me wrong im all for prosecuting people who have no use for these substances and use them for personal enjoyment or sell them for profit but people in genuine need should always be allowed the relief they need.
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I'm immune to whatever it is they gas people with when their teeth are pulled. I had 4 pulled before I got braces. Hurt like a bitch too, but it's NOTHING compared to breaking your femur or unstoppable, unrelenting neurological pain.
What is it that you don't understand? Your body has pain receptors. And some people's pain receptors are turned on, permanently. You don't think they need pain killers?
in which of my posts did you read the sentence that said people whos pain receptors are turned on permanently dont need pain meds
never did i say anyone doesn't need pain meds
i said there are appropriate, and inappropriate times to take pain meds, i think if doctors really wanted to help people they would give out 10% of the pain meds that they give out now
instead of asking me do I think this or that, maybe you should pay attention to what I say instead of asking me that huh
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outed? i said it myself a hundred times
Give me your dad's number... I need to call and tell him which groceries to buy so he can nourish you... ;)
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and ur immune to the gas? what the fuck, the gas that puts u to sleep, ur immune to that? lol
ur pain receptors are always turned on, ur immune to gas that puts everyone else out like sleeping beauty, quite a special little boy we have here
(http://img.totaloutdoornetwork.com/UserFiles/12/127/12762/super-retard.jpg)
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dont get me wrong im all for prosecuting people who have no use for these substances and use them for personal enjoyment or sell them for profit but people in genuine need should always be allowed the relief they need.
they dont need to be persecuted, there need to be incentives for drug companies to not be just drug dealers, prescriptions shouldnt be handed out so easily
what about the pain of the kids of the mother who got addicted to pills because she's a sad house wife who then turned to heroin who then got kicked out of the family who then turned to prostitution?
what about the pain of the people who dont get accepted by medical insurance because people commit insurance fraud in order to get their hands on pain pills that the doctor prescribed too easily?
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dont get me wrong im all for prosecuting people who have no use for these substances and use them for personal enjoyment or sell them for profit but people in genuine need should always be allowed the relief they need.
The last thing we need to do is put addicts in prison for the sole reason of taking drugs. We have laws in place if they steal, kill etc. Opiates are no fucking joke, and millions of people DO need pain management. What needs to happen is it needs to be seriously over-hauled. Drug companies shouldn't have to worry about the effects it has on society if they are putting out a product that helps pain. Hell in most states, there's plenty of regulation. Its states like Florida where Palumbo-rogue type doctors are pushing the legal system and making too much money for doing so.
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the pills i said i used to down with caugh syrup were hydrocodone, they didn't do much for me
Yeah they are shit. the nyquil would work better.This new drug sounds like a shitty drug. stick with roxicodone(oxycodone IR's) blue magic pills mallinckrodt 30's or ac tavis 30's are the best. water soluble. time released hydrocodone sounds horible and weak. Norcos would work better you actually get more relief with a bit of tylenol in them but not the 7.5mg/750apap those will just give you aa stomach ache. norcos wich are 10mg hydrocodone/325 apap are your best bet if you like weak opiates. I am more into oxycontin,roxicdone(oxycodone IR), actiq( fentanyl lollipops) , fentanyl patches-100mcg, dilauded 8mg tabs, high doses of methadone-80mg amount at once. I dont play with balonie hydrocodone. I need these meds though I played football and lifted pretty heavy weights giving me herniated discs in 4 spots on my lower lumbar and 3 spots in the neck and then a cracked spine from when a got hit by a drunk drive all of it proven by a MRI(magentic resonance imaging). sounds like alot of hardcore drugs but they dont get you high aftre the first 3 weeks they just take away the pain and make it to where I can live a normal life.the quality of life is complete shit when i am not on opiates all I think about is my pain.l when I am medicated I am noirmal and can live a normal life. I am opiate dependent I wont lie. I never lie. sucks but it's how it is. I am on a strict contract where they can call me in and do pill counts, make me take UA's. its like being on probation. thats how strict they are when they give you shitloads of schedule 2 medication. Hydrocodone(vicoden) is just schedule 4 you can call in refills of vicoden with schedule 2's you have to pick up a hard copy every time! they are not allowed to call in schedule 2 medication.In the picture/you can read my name on the bottom left bottle is my 40mg oxycontins , 30mg roxicodone(oxycodone HCL/IR's-instant release) foor breakthrough pain) and alprazolam(xanax) for anxiety,all those drugs plus the HGH and steroids I take I am a true bodybuilder a walking pharmacy/pin cushion.Alot of bodybuilders use these medications. they are super spendy and people sell them for crazy amounts of money. what I pay 70cents for per tab of 30mg oxycodone they sell for up to 20-30$ on the black market with ease,I spend money on medications I invested in years ago so in a way i am making myself money
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guy was outed as a 26 year old from Kazakhstan who weighs a buck fifty and lives with his dad in new york
offers opinion on nearly every subject thinking it carries a lot of weight- totally hilarious since he is clueless and trolling most of the time
don't take him seriously and don't encourage him :)
Most accurate post of the year, add flintstones1 to this and you have young guys who want to be in on everything but know nothing and lie constantly
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i don't really talk about things i don't know
except sometimes
i mean, really anything i say regarding bodybuilding... if u take it seriously, u got problems, cuz im just messing around most of the time