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Title: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 30, 2011, 08:53:51 AM
i say no no no


he say yes yes yes


 :-[
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: mass243 on December 30, 2011, 08:58:20 AM

Friend of peace  ::)
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: JZMB on December 30, 2011, 08:59:12 AM
he doesnt know the thunderdome
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 30, 2011, 08:59:21 AM
i tell him i read that you need to be on the juice definitely by age 22-23 MAX

Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: nasht5 on December 30, 2011, 09:17:48 AM
i say no no no


he say yes yes yes


 :-[

he is wrong. you are right.
too many f'n reasons to explain why your right and he is wrong.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 30, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
he is wrong. you are right.
too many f'n reasons to explain why your right and he is wrong.


yes i feel this is very sad now i have to pretend like he may be right to keep the peace


Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: _bruce_ on December 30, 2011, 09:46:04 AM
Friend of peace  ::)

Never gets old  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Swlabr on December 30, 2011, 09:47:55 AM
b-boy...was...natural...until...30...

look...at..him...now...t hickest...mofo...you...w ill...ever...see...
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Tito24 on December 30, 2011, 09:52:59 AM
savages
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: howardroark on December 30, 2011, 09:54:33 AM
Most pros started juicing young... Even with steroids you need time to grow and mature into a new physique. You can't just slap on 100lbs of muscle in a few years.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 30, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
A pro bodybuilder?  Maybe ten guys make decent money and even that is short lived.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: greeneyes on December 30, 2011, 10:17:49 AM
stfu  >:(
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 30, 2011, 10:20:21 AM
stfu  >:(

hot!!!!

 :P :P :P
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: local hero on December 30, 2011, 11:05:31 AM
most pros would have been abusing a good 5 to 10 yr before turning pro... alot of them were fully developed in early 20's such as levrone, ray, arnie, preist, yates etc etc   
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: MAXX on December 30, 2011, 11:08:27 AM
bullshit. all successful pro bb's started in their teens.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 30, 2011, 11:39:28 AM
he most definitely gets his info from steroid.com
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 30, 2011, 11:43:28 AM
he most definitely gets his info from steroid.com

must be somewhere because he said he researched it extensively
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 30, 2011, 11:57:14 AM
must be somewhere because he said he researched it extensively

well if you go to any site other than this one, you will get nothing but horrible information. So researching extensively typically is a bad thing due to the misinformation out there
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 30, 2011, 11:59:33 AM
well if you go to any site other than this one, you will get nothing but horrible information. So researching extensively typically is a bad thing due to the misinformation out there
i believe he is partly in denial and wants to postpone the drugs by any means


well maybe that is a projection  :-X
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 30, 2011, 12:10:04 PM
i believe he is partly in denial and wants to postpone the drugs by any means


well maybe that is a projection  :-X

I started 2 months before my 25th birthday. Wish I had started during college at 20 years old
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 30, 2011, 12:16:55 PM
I started 2 months before my 25th birthday. Wish I had started during college at 20 years old

Imagine being steroid sized in college


seems much more fun than being steroid sized in day to day working life
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 30, 2011, 12:40:41 PM
Imagine being steroid sized in college


seems much more fun than being steroid sized in day to day working life

I still try to live like a college kid these days but I obviously don't live in a campus of 16,000 undergrads anymore. But yea, I didnt know anything about roids back then. I was big and bloated and natural until I dieted down for spring break naturally my senior year and acquired some decent abs
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: whitewidow on December 30, 2011, 05:23:42 PM
I say 24. The male body grows till about that age then stops. you want to be done growing completely naturally before juicing and you also want to get as strong as possible without juicing. guys who wait seem to have better result. I looked like I juiced when I was 21 but never touched the stuff til 24 and It worked wonders. I know I didint get the strength gains some guys get. I put on 50 pounds on my bench press and added about the same alot more to my squats. but its not like my strength doubled or anything crazy like that. 25% in strength is not to bad. whta it mainly did was add thickness and helped me recover faster. I also got way better pumps. vascularity all the things you desire but the strength is nothing that fantastic. I was benching 335pds before I hit the juice and got up to around 380 so a 45 pound weight increase on the flat bench I gained more doing hammer strength I got up to 405 for 5-6 reps wich isnt anything that special but it def added thickness. I always do a super set the last set of every lift where I do 50-100 reps with light weight I picked up that tip from chris dim.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Swlabr on December 30, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
I say 24. The male body grows till about that age then stops. you want to be done growing completely naturally before juicing and you also want to get as strong as possible without juicing. guys who wait seem to have better result. I looked like I juiced when I was 21 but never touched the stuff til 24 and It worked wonders. I know I didint get the strength gains some guys get. I put on 50 pounds on my bench press and added about the same alot more to my squats. but its not like my strength doubled or anything crazy like that. 25% in strength is not to bad. whta it mainly did was add thickness and helped me recover faster. I also got way better pumps. vascularity all the things you desire but the strength is nothing that fantastic. I was benching 335pds before I hit the juice and got up to around 380 so a 45 pound weight increase on the flat bench I gained more doing hammer strength I got up to 405 for 5-6 reps wich isnt anything that special but it def added thickness. I always do a super set the last set of every lift where I do 50-100 reps with light weight I picked up that tip from chris dim.

Fuck that noise, I don't want to be lean and mean at 26 or so, I want to be a beast NOW!
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: nasht5 on December 30, 2011, 07:29:00 PM
dude, he wants to be a pro-bodybuilder, period. if he waits to be 25 his career is over before it ever began. In BB they all start as amateurs and ya gotta finish certain shows in the top 5 some top 3 others ya gotta win to qualify for the next level of BB show. Ya gotta qualify to go to the show ya gotta WIN to gain your pro-card.
if he waits to be 25 to start - his career is already over.

powerlifting it's fine and I recomend waiting as long as you can, your right about better gains after reaching natural peaks, blah blah blah.

BUT HE WANTS TO BE A PRO BODYBUILDER!!!! Not some big gym rat who's almost 30.

He waits, he loses, the dream will never have a chance of becoming a reality.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 30, 2011, 07:36:07 PM
crossfit is wave of future anyway
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Natural Man on December 30, 2011, 07:42:05 PM
I bet you re friend/life "partner" was raised by a single mom?
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: che on December 30, 2011, 07:43:39 PM
I bet you re friend/life "partner" was raised by a single mom?
What's your point , retard ?
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Natural Man on December 30, 2011, 07:44:57 PM
What's your point , retard ?
My point is that sons raised by single moms often have stupid, extremistic lifegoals,  like considering turning "pro bodybuilders" and injecting steroids, because of the lack of a decent father figure and because they pathologically need to compensate for this lack of a father figure by expressing over-exagerated "manly" attitudes at all costs.

Had they have a decent father figure who gave them healthy attention they would be studying and working good jobs, starting families instead of focusing on watching tv, mma, jersey shore, playing video games, abusing drugs and taking steroids after starting lifting weights 2 months ago. They basically want it all now using shortcuts and missing the path itself.


On a side note, next time you ask someone a question, dont finish the very same question with an insult, as this person might not want to answer you as a result.

Retard.

Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: gh15 on December 30, 2011, 07:49:40 PM
he most definitely gets his info from steroid.com

lol!
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: che on December 30, 2011, 07:53:05 PM
My point is that sons raised by single moms often have stupid, extremistic lifegoals,  like considering turning "pro bodybuilders" and injecting steroids, because of the lack of a decent father figure and because they pathologically need to compensate for this lack of a father figure by expressing over-exagerated "manly" attitudes at all costs.

Had they have a decent father figure who gave them healthy attention they would be studying and working good jobs, starting families instead of focusing on watching tv, mma, jersey shore, playing video games, abusing drugs and taking steroids after starting lifting weights 2 months ago. They basically want it all now using shortcuts and missing the path itself.


On a side note, next time you ask someone a question, dont finish the very same question with an insult, as this person might not want to answer you as a result.

Retard.



So it's not his fault it's his parents fault,  now STFU retarded bitch.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Morsprincipium on December 30, 2011, 07:53:44 PM
It sounds terrible, but I've always recommended to up and comers to start by at least 18-20.  Gotta go to extremes to get to extremes
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: gh15 on December 30, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
anywhere between 18 and 25,, after that you will alwys chase the dream ,, some wil make it after but it will be in the masters ....

the comon thing to us bodybuild is the consistancy in usage of high quality dosed products for long enough time to develop the layers of 3 dimentional needed for profesional level,, you dont get it after couple months...it takes some time,, yes you can start when you are 28.... but chances of yuo to do damage are not good,, you will be mr local gymnasium though

gh15 approved
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: el numero uno on December 30, 2011, 07:57:55 PM
My point is that sons raised by single moms often have stupid, extremistic lifegoals,  like considering turning "pro bodybuilders" and injecting steroids, because of the lack of a decent father figure and because they pathologically need to compensate for this lack of a father figure by expressing over-exagerated "manly" attitudes at all costs.

Had they have a decent father figure who gave them healthy attention they would be studying and working good jobs, starting families instead of focusing on watching tv, mma, jersey shore, playing video games, abusing drugs and taking steroids after starting lifting weights 2 months ago. They basically want it all now using shortcuts and missing the path itself.


On a side note, next time you ask someone a question, dont finish the very same question with an insult, as this person might not want to answer you as a result.

Retard.



Sorry, but not everyone has the mental capacity to follow good careers, some people it's just too dumb, period. It's not just about how they were raised. Plus, most guys who were raised by single moms that I know, are kinda feminine. They are not trying to be exaggeratedly mainly.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Natural Man on December 30, 2011, 07:58:58 PM
So it's not his fault it's his parents fault,  now STFU retarded bitch.

You sure seem to have deep non adressed issues with what i write. That's your problem, not mine, and the more you insult me out of the blue for no reasons after every single of my post only proves it furthermore.

But maybe that's your immature way of asking for help ?
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Natural Man on December 30, 2011, 08:03:30 PM
Sorry, but not everyone has the mental capacity to follow good careers, some people it's just too dumb, period. It's not just about how they were raised. Plus, most guys who were raised by single moms that I know, are kinda feminine. They are not trying to be exaggeratedly mainly.
Genes, upbringings, education, faith, love, shape one's habilities. We all have a maximum physical, and intellectual plateau tho. But most of the time our best is way beyond what we imagine. Only those who were loved enough by caregivers have the required confidence to reach their maximum potential. Others just reproduce their caregivers , genitors mistakes subconsciously and when they find it out, they regret it and end bitter and frustrated at them and the whole world. Still even these people can accept their fate and contribute one way or another if they follow God's words. There is nothing in psychology or psychanalysis that hasnt alrdy been adressed by God's words.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: el numero uno on December 30, 2011, 08:37:35 PM
Genes, upbringings, education, faith, love, shape one's habilities. We all have a maximum physical, and intellectual plateau tho. But most of the time our best is way beyond what we imagine. Only those who were loved enough by caregivers have the required confidence to reach their maximum potential. Others just reproduce their caregivers , genitors mistakes subconsciously and when they find it out, they regret it and end bitter and frustrated at them and the whole world. Still even these people can accept their fate and contribute one way or another if they follow God's words. There is nothing in psychology or psychanalysis that hasnt alrdy been adressed by God's words.

I agree, except for the last part, I don't know about psychology thus I couldn't agree/disagree with the last sentence.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: MikMaq on December 30, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Lol ubermans actually making sense for once.

Anyhow fuck that noise, starting under 30 is fine, your odds are so low, that being older makes little difference, it's the networking, the look of your competition etc that have the greatest effect.

Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: gh15 on December 30, 2011, 09:29:34 PM
if you have and i reapt if you have legit products,, and that mean LEGIT HGH AND LEGIT AAS... you will look no diff than the pros or in beter wording th etop amatuer who compete for profesional card,, the major diff is that the ones who compete for profesional card has deep deep contacts for legit hormones,,

30 days on kigtropin gh will teach you all you need to know about this scam of a cult,,notice what i say here 3 0 days not 6 months not 12 months 3 0 days 8-10 iu kigtropin and you understand exactly how bodybuild can eat so much balonie and never get much fat,, you undertsand how they get the vains and skin attached to muscle ,, you understand how their body look so elastic,, you understand how their abdominal wall grow into the skin ,, you understand how their delts are all fake ...you understand everything there is to understand...

gh15 approved

Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: theheman on December 30, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
if you have and i reapt if you have legit products,, and that mean LEGIT HGH AND LEGIT AAS... you will look no diff than the pros or in beter wording th etop amatuer who compete for profesional card,, the major diff is that the ones who compete for profesional card has deep deep contacts for legit hormones,,

30 days on kigtropin gh will teach you all you need to know about this scam of a cult,,notice what i say here 3 0 days not 6 months not 12 months 3 0 days 8-10 iu kigtropin and you understand exactly how bodybuild can eat so much balonie and never get much fat,, you undertsand how they get the vains and skin attached to muscle ,, you understand how their body look so elastic,, you understand how their abdominal wall grow into the skin ,, you understand how their delts are all fake ...you understand everything there is to understand...

gh15 approved

Thanks for getting the cat out of the bag.  Your advice in one way or another helps everyone on here.  That's why you're the most loved poster on here.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: gh15 on December 30, 2011, 11:02:37 PM
Thanks for getting the cat out of the bag.  Your advice in one way or another helps everyone on here.  That's why you're the most loved poster on here.

none of them is special by the way ,, i have sen on the thunderdome here fellas who are uite much better than places 10-15 on o stage im being very honest,, they just didnt jump on the train on the right time,, they didnt have the hook up...so they neevr matched ,,


as i always say ....the big deep scam of the 20 thcentury is supplement companys but! behind it behind it ther eeis even deeper scam and it is the scam of your parents,, this is a sad sad scam of no morals who made many many fellas very very rich,, ALL of the fellas who get up in bodybuikld USE LEGIT HGH...look at kuko the kid...this fella woudnt even be 200lb with out gh ,, im very serious he would maybe be 200lb 10% on steroids alone nothing special and he wil be mr o due to hgh and insulina...look into putnem he shoud have never got profesional card even WITH gh!  but he did ...look into all the fellas that advance in bodybuild...WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE COMMON THING TO THEM ALL ...WHAT IS THE COMMON THING BETWEEN EVAN CENTOFLONI AND KUKO THE KID? WHAT IS THE COMON THINS BETWEEN JASON HUH AND RODRAYMOND BROTHER? WHEE DOES THAT MORON FILT HERIS FIT IN ? WHERE IS LIAR PRIEST FIT IN ?

I WIL TELL YOU WHERE AND WHAT...

THEY ALL USE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE LEGIT LEGIT LIKE WARM BUNS OUT OF FACTORY ,, THEY WOULD BE ABSOLITLY NOTHING NOTHING! WITH OUT IT ,, AND THE DIFF IS THEY ADVANCE FOR THEY HAVE LEGIT HGH...IF YOU HAD LEGIT HGH YOU WOULD SEE HOW YOU GO TO WASH YOUR HANDS IN THE SINK AFTER TAKING A DUMP...AND EVERY WEEK YOU STAND THERE NODING YOUR HEAD FROM SIDE TO SIDE SMILING BUT IN REALITY WANT TO CRY FOR YOU UNDERSTAND EVERY WEEK HOW YOU BEEN MISLEAD FOR SO MANY YEADRS AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MADE YOUR PARENTS SPEND ON YOUR SORRY ASS...

it is very bad what some did to bodybuild,, the  dumb notion of genetic lol BALONIE! it is all hgh ALL FUCKIN HGH if you have only decent level frame and respond decent which is not hard...and dedicated and dont give up YOU CAN GO PROFESIONAL PERIOD!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: NelsonMuntz on December 31, 2011, 01:19:27 AM
Fuck the so called 3-d look, yeah the pros have that today but they look like shit compared to the guys in the 70"s and 80's

People should train drug free until they stop making gains. Yeah you will be pudgy and not cut up but at least when you stop competing you will know how to train drug free or with less and always have that base.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Tito24 on December 31, 2011, 01:20:36 AM
stfu  >:(

hotttttttttttttttttttttt ttttttt
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: trapz101 on December 31, 2011, 02:20:09 AM
he most definitely gets his info from steroid.com

with the saying 'you must be cose to 30 or over to know enough to start gear' shit...
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: whitewidow on December 31, 2011, 02:30:24 AM
Fuck that noise, I don't want to be lean and mean at 26 or so, I want to be a beast NOW!

you still can. eat right and workout hard.
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: wes on December 31, 2011, 05:12:03 AM
you still can. eat right and workout hard.
What a concept!  ;D
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 31, 2011, 07:05:55 AM
i say no no no


he say yes yes yes


 :-[
He is wise to stay natural to age 25, but dumb to wanna be a pro bb.....
Title: Re: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26
Post by: armchairifbbjudge on December 31, 2011, 07:09:14 AM
He is wise to stay natural to age 25, but dumb to wanna be a pro bb.....


why is it wise? is it then not a waste of naturally high GH levels in early 20's without AAS, because that's what I told him