Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Mota on January 15, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
-
Wondering if you have reports from any of your elves of what the best GH available in Canada is? Customs is very tight here and I'm having trouble finding anything better than just bunk ass China generics. After running bunk kit after bunk kit of stuff people claim is great I'm done with GH until I can get something GH15 approved or Pharma grade.
-
I am very interested in knowing this too! The only kit I've found cost me $400 for 100iu. That's fucking expensive and it's not even pharma grade!
-
I agree hard to know whats good. The gh available in my area Primatropin, Euro Pharm and Kanatropin. I have talked to people that have used some of these and none say they rocked. When the guy selling them tells you it takes a few months to feel them i say bull****. GH15 says you will know in a week that they good or not and that is what iam looking for.
-
Exactly. Canadain GH I've found is bullshit.
Primatropin is widely available for around 450-550 a kit, crazy pricey for a product I don't think is any better than generics.
Lots of greentops around lately, Cheap as hell, $140 a kit, but you get what you pay for, no magic, no mutation.
Has to be a better option.
-
were all in the same boat
-
Do you guys think going through customs by getting it shipped from the USA would be easier and less dangerous than ordering it straight from lets say China?
-
Do you guys think going through customs by getting it shipped from the USA would be easier and less dangerous than ordering it straight from lets say China?
if you are willing to take the risk, yeah
I can't do it cause I look like a criminal and they search my car everytime I drive threw the customs
I know a few guys who do it regularly tho
edit: sorry I tought you meant having them shipped to the USA and pick them up over there
-
we have a few domestic sources here in canada.... i was ordering kigs from china they were good until the latest fiasco that happen.... i never try our domestic stuff but theres some good feedback that the stuff is still legit.
-
bump
-
we have a few domestic sources here in canada.... i was ordering kigs from china they were good until the latest fiasco that happen.... i never try our domestic stuff but theres some good feedback that the stuff is still legit.
yeah but super expensive tho..
and here in quebec... NEVER buy anything on the streets lol (as far as hgh is concerned)
-
Well, im not creating a topic just to ask this:
And Brazil? Anyone knows good legit generic hgh around here?
Any dealer in South America?
Humatrope is fucking expensive.
-
and here in quebec... NEVER buy anything on the streets lol (as far as hgh is concerned)
So what can we do? :/
-
if you are willing to take the risk, yeah
I can't do it cause I look like a criminal and they search my car everytime I drive threw the customs
I know a few guys who do it regularly tho
edit: sorry I tought you meant having them shipped to the USA and pick them up over there
get some secret compartments installed in your car like batman
-
bump for the canadians , whats good out there ?
-
Well, im not creating a topic just to ask this:
And Brazil? Anyone knows good legit generic hgh around here?
Any dealer in South America?
Humatrope is fucking expensive.
Have you tried to order direct from Anhui, Gensci,Genheal? They don't ship to the US but BraSil shouldn't be a problem.
-
Have you tried to order direct from Anhui, Gensci,Genheal? They don't ship to the US but BraSil shouldn't be a problem.
Didnt find Anhui
Genheal/Jintropin doesnt
send to brazil.
Gensci im going to try it.
Thx!
-
Ankebio, they make Ansomone.
Unilabs is based in Phillipines but also have a factory in China. They make GenHeal
My dads cousin owns a small chain of pharmacys in Bahia. I wish I knew him well enough to talk about gh with him. What state are you in?
-
It must suck to live in Canada
-
I live in montreal..prices are for sure higher than usa but still...im able to get either blue tops/jintropin/taitropin...pharmagrade serono serostim 126iu or norditropin aq premix 30iu pen...but its pricy lol
-
It must suck to live in Canada
I almost have a heart attack everytime I see HGH prices here in Canada.
-
Ankebio, they make Ansomone.
Unilabs is based in Phillipines but also have a factory in China. They make GenHeal
My dads cousin owns a small chain of pharmacys in Bahia. I wish I knew him well enough to talk about gh with him. What state are you in?
Im in Rio de Janeiro bro
;)
Im looking for a good source of HGH for months now, lol. Kami sends to Brazil but, he doesnt garantee the shipping (customs.) Still looking forward GH from china, since human grade here costs about 80 dolars for 12ui lol, its stupid.
-
Same here. I've asked GH15 to let his elfs try some Canadian gh or find a good source in Canada, but he didn't respond.
-
Same here. I've asked GH15 to let his elfs try some Canadian gh or find a good source in Canada, but he didn't respond.
Same. Still waiting for his reply
-
Same. Still waiting for his reply
The old CSB used to have some solid bros for our friends up north. Did they all go private?
-
So what can we do? :/
jack shit exept paying a huge amount of money to run 3iu a day
-
I am very interested in knowing this too! The only kit I've found cost me $400 for 100iu. That's fucking expensive and it's not even pharma grade!
North of the 49th parallel most of the GH is good that i have come across, except the prices.
"$400"
That's average. Others are going for even 550-650 for 100iu. Hard to even think about doing 15-20 units ed with cost in mind.
-
The old CSB used to have some solid bros for our friends up north. Did they all go private?
Gear isn't a issue at all. Ton's of great gear can be had very cheap. But HGH is brutal up here. Either pay $500 for generics in a fancy box, or pay ~$150-200 for generics with no label in a plain white box. If I could find a source that sold GH15 approved HGH for <$300 a kit I'd be all over it.
-
Yep i agree dude
-
Which have you come across that was good? I ran the Primatropin at 5iu and was not impressed. Training partner was using the Euro pharm and said it was very underdosed or bunk-wasnt impressed. When the local sellers tell you it takes 2-3 months for it to work well go f*** yourself because that is not true. The Hardcoregrowth stuff was complete crap. So which did you try personally that worked?
-
I have never had any good gh from up here, guess have to find pharma gd
-
Dont keep you hopes up of gh15 approving canadian gh since it's relabeled china crap. Best be is taking a chance and going intl
-
Exactly. Canadain GH I've found is bullshit.
Primatropin is widely available for around 450-550 a kit, crazy pricey for a product I don't think is any better than generics.
Lots of greentops around lately, Cheap as hell, $140 a kit, but you get what you pay for, no magic, no mutation.
Has to be a better option.
Primatropin is garbage and is 192. I got welts from injecting that crap. I also had a whole kit that didnt even mix properly after constituted, even after it was left sitting for over a day
-
can you get those gh releasing peptides in canada? they are pretty expensive normally, and cost the same (per IU of gh) as synthetic gh in america but if your prices in canada are so bad you could probably use those? you can get a lot more than 3iu a day using the peptides, granted, you have to do certain precautions and take certain steps for your body to be able to release a lot of GH.
edit:i just looked into it and the only trustworthy research company i know, has a guarantee on shipments to canada, so i guess so.
-
Yep. Peptides are easy, reliable and cheap. But you can't get GH15 mutation level's of GH from them, no amount of GHRP/GHRH combo is going to get you close to what 15iu a day of pharma GH is.
-
you can get about 12iu a day max (unless you wake up during the night to pin 2 more times) but you will exhaust your pituitary because i honestly don't think the pituitary can consistently and continually pump out that much gh.
also, since it's GH made within the body it's a lot more "pure" and doesn't give as many sides as chinese GH. it's a viable alternative for most people, but you are right you can't get the massive dosages with it that you can with synthetic gh and also the type of "mutation" needed to get to the ifbb. you can run synthetic gh with it though to get higher amount of daily gh though, what i did.
probably not as good as synthetic gh but on the plus side, at least you won't get a giant nose and forehead :D
-
I hear ya fellas, its a tough gig north of the boarder
Tried genas, primas, and now burned on kigs. Hopefully someday we will have somewhat affordable quality gh, and the man the makes this happen will be very popular
-
you can get about 12iu a day max (unless you wake up during the night to pin 2 more times) but you will exhaust your pituitary because i honestly don't think the pituitary can consistently and continually pump out that much gh.
also, since it's GH made within the body it's a lot more "pure" and doesn't give as many sides as chinese GH. it's a viable alternative for most people, but you are right you can't get the massive dosages with it that you can with synthetic gh and also the type of "mutation" needed to get to the ifbb. you can run synthetic gh with it though to get higher amount of daily gh though, what i did.
probably not as good as synthetic gh but on the plus side, at least you won't get a giant nose and forehead :D
Lol 12ui...that is the most unfounded statement I heard ever...ppl woudnt even bother taking hgh if they could produce 12ui by taking peptides.
Ive done peptides at really high dosage and its faaaar from 12ui of hgh lol
-
Lol 12ui...that is the most unfounded statement I heard ever...ppl woudnt even bother taking hgh if they could produce 12ui by taking peptides.
Ive done peptides at really high dosage and its faaaar from 12ui of hgh lol
I share exactly the same experience. Even high doses of clinical grade peptides didn't give me close to the effects of shitty china generic GH at 10iu a day (probably more like 3iu of real GH, but labeled as 10iu)
-
Lol 12ui...that is the most unfounded statement I heard ever...ppl woudnt even bother taking hgh if they could produce 12ui by taking peptides.
Ive done peptides at really high dosage and its faaaar from 12ui of hgh lol
not every day, but you can get a lot of hgh from peptides. problem is, it's dependent on releasing naturally produced hgh, and there are a lot of limits that. but 100mcg of both peptides can yield 2iu of gh, every 3 hours. the amount you use in 1 injection is pretty irrelevant to the amount released, since over 100mcg of each doesn't increase the hgh secretion by a whole lot unless your peptides are severely underdosed - which probably most are, or completely fake.
i think on average it's probably closer to around 5-6iu is the most your pituitary will produce on a day and what to expect from using them correctly, but i'm fairly certain you can get up to 12iu in a day with elevated estrogen levels and using saturation dose every 3hours.
-
It doesnt work that way...you say 100mcg of each will make you produce around 2ui each 3 hours...personally I pin 4 times a day both ghrp2 and grf...you DONT add 2ui to the total amount of ui produce during the day...your pretty much MAINTAINING a constant 2ui relase by pinning each 3 hours
No such thing as taking 12ui of hgh
What you are saying is totally false and unfounded
-
i now realize my other posts sound like i'm trying to sell people on peptides like a door to door salesman or something, which wasn't and isn't my intention, though i guess just poorly worded it because i'm lazy and type my posts up quickly without much thought. but, there are a lot of negatives to peptides, namely that 95% of the research companies selling them are selling bunk and garbage product. also, there are a lot of variables involved with how much gh is released from the peptides, namely estrogen and food intake, and both low estrogen levels and high food intake (specifically before using peptides) blunts gh release significantly. both of which makes it fairly hard to obtain high IU levels for a bodybuilder using peptides, considering everyone runs AI and eats tons of calories of carbs and fats a day, plus having to pin 6 times a day is a nuisance.
though, 2-3iu a day is how much a normal male produces in his 20s, and to say that peptides only give 2iu a day would mean peptides do not work at all - which is only the case of ergo-pep peptides ;D
with regard to how much hgh is possible to be released: young children have 4 times the normal reference range as adult males for growth hormone levels, on top of that, children grow in spurts because there are also intermittent large hgh pulsations throughout the months, reaching 10iu or upwards. it is still the same pituitary gland you have since you were a child, and it is still capable of releasing large amounts of gh, though not naturally as it will require the aid of peptides to do it. 12iu is entirely within the realm of possibility for a maximum, but very dependent on variables and would need an optimal environment with precise measures taken for it to happen. also, i do not think it's possible to do every day because, like in children, the large growth hormone pulsations are not continuous because the pituitary needs to "rest". i think a more realistic expectation for continual peptide usage would be around 5-6iu a day, which would double your natural gh production.
all i meant to do in my posts were to present a viable alternative for people in canada, because a lot of guys apparently cannot get any gh into canada or it's too expensive to use, and the 5-6iu from peptides would be better than nothing, i figured. also, no where did i say using peptides was the same as using synthetic gh, because synthetic and naturally produced gh are different structurally, and there are subtle nuanced differences in the way they work.
-
5ui, that is possible my friend...but 12, never lol!
You do have the same pituary gland thand when you were younger, but peptides are just not powerfull enough to make you release 12ui.
Yes they are a cheaper and good alternative to hgh in canada and there is 2 100% legit place we can order but im not sure if I can mention them here.
As for hgh, it is a bit more pricy than usa, all depends on the contacts you have. I have good ones :) lol
-
lots of norditropin simplexx in canada , it about who you know in th food chain n since it often come from usa , it indeed super costly but on th other hand , no one ever did jail time more then a day for inter provincial steroid or hgh trafficking , it did occur because of presence of rec drug or import/export , steroid only ,, never , entire canadian law history ,, never ,, no matters what ppls bullshit about ,,
if profit goes out of hand it income tax who will kick your ass , but if money laundering on hgh expense ,, there' no proof
canada rule ,, raw steroid powder come in and if it seized only a scary letter with show up at door with no repercussion
many many time , name come out in newspaper for steroid bust while th felon already home with no court appeal
each one of them end by drop case , since our military soldiers are on ugl anabolics
-
Young adolescents secrete HGH at the rate of about 700 μg/day, while healthy adults secrete HGH at the rate of about 400 μg/day.
1mg = 3iu
700ug = .7mg
.7mg = 2.1iu This is how much HGH an adolescent secretes in a day
.4mg = 1.2iu This is how much HGH an adult secretes in a day
(Gardner, David G., Shoback, Dolores (2007). Greenspan's Basic and Clinical Endocrinology (8th ed.). New York: McGraw-Hill Medical. pp. 193–201. ISBN 0-07-144011-9.)
-
anyone use the jins that have been floating around canada, wondering if there the same quality as the u.s version
-
anyone use the jins that have been floating around canada, wondering if there the same quality as the u.s version
i think it hgh 5-6ui with some 1gflr3 , weirdly enough i go hypo with them , this is only personal speculation
-
hypo? hypoglycemic
-
hypo? hypoglycemic
like when you take much insulin , fell weak n need eat shitload asap
-
ya was getting that from the printed kigs
-
ya was getting that from the printed kigs
quality gh doesnt do that , peptides does ,,
-
that sucks for me
-
like when you take much insulin , fell weak n need eat shitload asap
exactly like ghrp-6 does
-
Young adolescents secrete HGH at the rate of about 700 μg/day, while healthy adults secrete HGH at the rate of about 400 μg/day.
1mg = 3iu
700ug = .7mg
.7mg = 2.1iu This is how much HGH an adolescent secretes in a day
.4mg = 1.2iu This is how much HGH an adult secretes in a day
(Gardner, David G., Shoback, Dolores (2007). Greenspan's Basic and Clinical Endocrinology (8th ed.). New York: McGraw-Hill Medical. pp. 193–201. ISBN 0-07-144011-9.)
cool, thanks for the study. do you have access to the whole thing? i want to read about it and also find out exactly what age demographics adult and adolescent encompass.
-
Benoitlapierre have you tried these ones http://norvopharma.com/ ? if so how did u like em ? thank ya
-
Benoitlapierre have you tried these ones http://norvopharma.com/ ? if so how did u like em ? thank ya
yes great for 4-5 kits then you get better , it does great but i doubt it does make monster
-
thanks bro
-
yes great for 4-5 kits then you get better , it does great but i doubt it does make monster
you still intend on trying those taitropin or did you decide against it?
-
BLP, the canadian god of hormones! lol
-
Tru that
-
you still intend on trying those taitropin or did you decide against it?
i did was same of norvotrop here , and same of decent quality blue tops i seen lately
next try should be novotropin
im on norditropin simplexx aq novo nordisk pharma premix it fucking a wonderful , disgusting cost tho
-
BLP, the canadian god of hormones! lol
haha thk y
proetarian on canada bbing does a great job , more technical knowledge , conservator n genuine
my own q & a in french on physiquextrem at 41000 views +,, quite happy
-
haha thk y
proetarian on canada bbing does a great job , more technical knowledge , conservator n genuine
my own q & a in french on physiquextrem at 41000 views +,, quite happy
very knowledgeable fella. Read a lot of his postings
-
i did was same of norvotrop here , and same of decent quality blue tops i seen lately
next try should be novotropin
im on norditropin simplexx aq novo nordisk pharma premix it fucking a wonderful , disgusting cost tho
can you make a list of all the hgh you think are best and list them off in order of best to worst, i think a lot of people would be interested in seeing it! :)
-
blp do you use any peptides? also u think i can mutate on 20iu norvotrop daily. kill wallet though :'(
-
blp do you use any peptides? also u think i can mutate on 20iu norvotrop daily. kill wallet though :'(
try GHRP-6, I am not saying you will blow up in the long run like you would with GH and it would make you tighter
but it will help you gain some mass and you will feel FULL as fuck
I like that thing, even if a lot of people bitch on it
-
ok ok, by itself or with the hgh , what about the other thing u gotta add to it , grf or cjc ?
-
ok ok, by itself or with the hgh , what about the other thing u gotta add to it , grf or cjc ?
You can run a GHRP (like GHRP-6, I'd use GHRP-2 instead myself) by itself and get some benifit, but the effect will be amplified by running a GHRH with it. 100mcg of each, 3 hours apart, as many times a day as you like. The only GHRH you want is MOD GRF-29.
You can use rHGH on top of that if you like.
-
You can run a GHRP (like GHRP-6, I'd use GHRP-2 instead myself) by itself and get some benifit, but the effect will be amplified by running a GHRH with it. 100mcg of each, 3 hours apart, as many times a day as you like. The only GHRH you want is MOD GRF-29.
You can use rHGH on top of that if you like.
ok , does all that stuff really work or is just hocus pocus?
-
Works for sure... Easy and cheap to get legit peptides. But you can't produce a ton of GH that way no matter how much you take. If your looking for fat loss and anti-aging sure, it's a good route, but to mutate, it won't happen.
-
ok , maybe ill look into that to , could u please pm me what company u have liked . than u
-
ok , does all that stuff really work or is just hocus pocus?
it works amazimg. Although most compamys amd I meam almost all sell fake stuff amd you womt see shit.
you kmow its real whem you cam eat amd keep feelimg humgry for hours.
I also would wake up almost im tears from carpel tummel it was that bad..so it def works amd raises gh pretty high for all the side effects I got. Amd if I did it more for fatloss like didmt stuff my face afterwards I felt like I lost ome percemt bodyfat each day.
loe that stuff. Ghrp two tho mot sic. The six was just alot weaker no carpe tunnel. Ghrp 2 fuckimg amazimg. Just like charts or studies show its about twice as strong easily. Was with mod gfr too.
src and that old compay that wemt away long ago were omly legit omes. Extreme peptide. Perscion. Phil hernon. Cat thimk of othrrs but were all garbage mot ome effect still got em im my fridge lol. Garbage
-
can you make a list of all the hgh you think are best and list them off in order of best to worst, i think a lot of people would be interested in seeing it! :)
would love to see this to
-
ok ok, by itself or with the hgh , what about the other thing u gotta add to it , grf or cjc ?
ya, mod 1-29 (also known as grf mod 1-29 and cjc-1295 without dac) is what you want. use them together in conjunction it will increase the effectiveness of both, since they work synergistically together. take them before eating, don't eat for 10-15 minutes after injection.
most peptide companies selling it are selling garbage chinese peptides, maybe only their ghrp-6 is legit, all the rest is bunk or fake. most of the mod 1-29 sold is actually cjc1295 with dac. same for goes for the rest, like ipamorelin, hgh frag 176, etc... they are all poor quality or faked with another peptide. legit ipamorelin shouldn't make you hungry, and legit hgh-frag should be very cloudy when mixed (though doesn't mean it's legit just because it's cloudy, scammers are too clever for that).
-
anyone use the jins that have been floating around canada, wondering if there the same quality as the u.s version
Norvotropin and the primatropin - both are good.
never tried the jins
-
just started running the jins at 6iu/day for the last couple of days, so i'll give it a week and see
-
Primatropin are good? I ran 5 kits of the old Primatropins and they are crap. At 5 iu i should have seen some results. Apparently the new Primatropins have new boxes and labels why would that be?
-
i think blp mentioned somewhere that the primas are just ghrp-6 so that would explain the results
-
Yup that would explain it, I bought very expensive growth peptides.
-
Primatropin is shit, and not the ship lol... I think some1 spent more on the packaging then what was inside actually
-
Everybody I know has said Primatropins are the biggest rip off on the market. $500 a kit and they are either bunk, peptides, or no better than generic blue tops depending on who you ask.
-
i say go pharmagrade , it quite simple any generic i try 30ui = 10ui pharma
in conclusion cost quite similar
if have to go generic for xyz reason ,,,go with quality blue tops , i had never seen beside quality kig , generic way much stronger then blue tops , those fancy sticker n boxes you will pay double th price for 15% stronger
-
that is a smart idea
-
There are sources out there keep your eyes open,, Pharm grade aswell very affordable ,, do some more research
-
Not in canada? Frickin HGH is 3x as what is offered in the states...... so lame... I WISH...
I am running ipamorelin year round... but i wish i could run like 6iu HGH ED :-/
-
I live in montreal..prices are for sure higher than usa but still...im able to get either blue tops/jintropin/taitropin...pharmagrade serono serostim 126iu or norditropin aq premix 30iu pen...but its pricy lol
Rather than pay $1100-1200 a kit. I'd rather get more sauce.
Not worth it for Canadians.
-
There must be a way to get LEGIT HGH for like 100$ like the guys in the states can in canada lol.. why the frickin tripple price attack aaah
-
Only a few vendors out there with legit GH, so they can rape the users to their liking in Canada.
-
thats gay... this has to change damn it... legit hgh should be 100$ like in the US lol... then I could run 10iu ed a month... screw ghrp peptides then..
-
ansomone should come in canada soon ,,
new name new trend mmm i like it
blp aproouuuuuuved ,, ; p
-
ansomone should come in canada soon ,,
new name new trend mmm i like it
blp aproouuuuuuved ,, ; p
Its already been here ;)
-
what?