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Saw this on another board. I was wondering if it's good info or junk?
Trenbolone Handbook:
-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone
-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed
-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less
-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week
-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin
-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys
-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher
-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains
-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone
-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only
-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better
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Saw this on another board. I was wondering if it's good info or junk?
Trenbolone Handbook:
-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone ::) run as much or as little Test as he need to keep your dick up
-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed ;D Yes
-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less ::) use as much as you can handle/afford
-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup ::) whatever
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week ::) whatever
-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin ::)just keep taking more drugs, why not ::)
-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys ;D nothing wrong with keeping kidneys healthy
-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher ::) if you want to waste money on snake oil supps or on eating 10 times per day than hey go for it! otherwise eat when you are hungry
-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains ::) train your muscles not your ego
-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone ::) use bloody masteron
-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only ::) eat what you like, if you are already a fat bloof go on a fucking diet before taking gear
-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better ::) tTren = more is better, drink what you need to live
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Thanks Schmoe! Nice avatar btw ;D
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is all BS except 1 statement - "always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains"
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I agree with Schmoe Buster. I'm using tren ace ed w/out any test and I'm not having any problems with keeping my dick up, granted I have no on to fuck but still.
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I agree with Schmoe Buster. I'm using tren ace ed w/out any test and I'm not having any problems with keeping my dick up, granted I have no on to fuck but still.
LOL
Just jerk off over the pic in my avatar, thats what i do :P
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I agree with Schmoe Buster. I'm using tren ace ed w/out any test and I'm not having any problems with keeping my dick up, granted I have no on to fuck but still.
if i run tren by itself, i've no problem to keep my dick up but no libido, not much desire really, add 150mg test and BOOM :D
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LOL
Just jerk off over the pic in my avatar, thats what i do :P
what the hell... perfect titonas, amazing !
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Saw this on another board. I was wondering if it's good info or junk?
Trenbolone Handbook:
-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone
-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed
-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less
-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week
-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin
-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys
-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher
-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains
-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone
-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only
-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better
this is fucking bullshit.
-you don't need 2.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight
-there is absolutely no reason to prefer tren ace over tren E. this is such a common and annoying steroid board mob mentality statement. i personally prefer certain tren E over tren A.
-always train heavy? fucking obviously. but with tren you can train in the 25 rep zone, and not do a single compound exercise and you will still get huge. you can bench press with only 225 lbs for 10 sets of 30 reps each, and you will still explode.
-cranberry?
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lol
my workout today was this
2 sets of cable crossovers, first set 50lbs X 20 reps, second set 70lbs X 15 reps
2 sets of decline hammers with 2 plates per side, 15 reps each
3 sets incline barbell press 135lbs 12 reps each
2 sets dumbell laterals 50lbs 8 sets each
2 sets military press 135lbs 10 reps each
2 sets dumbell preacher curls 40lbs 12 reps each
2 sets reverse grip single hand pushdowns (using the pulley) 40lbs X 15 reps, 50lbs 12 reps
LIFT HEAVY ;D
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do you swing a lot when doing side laterals? if not, that's a pretty good weight for those with good form.
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all my lifts are extremely strict form. the eccentric is not performed as slowly on the laterals, but theres absolutely no momentum or swinging involved.
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this tore my shoulders up and was hell on my rotator cuff but adding static holds at the ends of my sets gave me some pretty good gains. static holds once you hit concentric failure, and then just holding the dumbbell perpendicular to you at a 90 degree for as long as you can, with every ounce of effort which makes it feel kind of like a concentric once the dumbbell starts to fall. was real hell but worked extremely well for me until my shoulders got so bad i couldn't even flip a light switch lol.
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Saw this on another board. I was wondering if it's good info or junk?
Trenbolone Handbook:
-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone
-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed
-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less
-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week
-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin
-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys
-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher
-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains
-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone
-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only
-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better
Its junk
-You don't have to use at least 500mg test with tren...test is only there to maintain libido, 300mg can be enough for some ppl
-You can use way more than 80mg/day
-Winstrol with tren at the same time will fuck up your joints
-Instead of dostinex or caberg, masteron will do the work
-T3 is garbage, shoudnt be use unless you a dieting for a show
-You ALWAYS need to eat high protein and lift heavy, not only on tren lol
-Again, no femera, anti-e are harsh on the body, u better go with masteron
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The only one on this list that I like is shooting tren ed as opposed to EOD. I have tried both and much prefer ed pinning.
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So the "ripped mix" (75mg test prop-75mg Tren Ace-50mg Drost Prop) that many suppliers sell is actually really good from what you guys say since Masteron will be better than Ami or others AEs and counter side-effects.
Would this mix produces good gains for a starter looking to recomp? I'm fearing a test/tbol or something like that will produce amazing gains but won't actually recomp me. I'm leaning down to 9% BF for the first time in my life and I don't want to jump on my first cycle and end up gaining lot of mass but being back to like 13% BF.. that would suck hard having to diet down again and end up losing some gains.
Yet at the same time I don't know how my body would react to 3 compounds for my first time ever so I would be taking some risk. :-\
Btw I'm sorry you guys probably get these questions all the time from newbies like me lol.
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LOL
Just jerk off over the pic in my avatar, thats what i do :P
beautiful gyno
(http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/full_tits.jpg)
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So the "ripped mix" (75mg test prop-75mg Tren Ace-50mg Drost Prop) that many suppliers sell is actually really good from what you guys say since Masteron will be better than Ami or others AEs and counter side-effects.
Would this mix produces good gains for a starter looking to recomp? I'm fearing a test/tbol or something like that will produce amazing gains but won't actually recomp me. I'm leaning down to 9% BF for the first time in my life and I don't want to jump on my first cycle and end up gaining lot of mass but being back to like 13% BF.. that would suck hard having to diet down again and end up losing some gains.
Yet at the same time I don't know how my body would react to 3 compounds for my first time ever so I would be taking some risk. :-\
Btw I'm sorry you guys probably get these questions all the time from newbies like me lol.
Well...if its your first time, you shoudnt even touch tren....stick to basics, see how your body handles steroids
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Well...if its your first time, you shoudnt even touch tren....stick to basics, see how your body handles steroids
That's what a part of me is telling myself but at the same time, when I decide to use Tren on my second or third cycle, the shutdown will be the same. I need to remind myself that it's a marathon, not a sprint.
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Its junk
-You don't have to use at least 500mg test with tren...test is only there to maintain libido, 300mg can be enough for some ppl
-You can use way more than 80mg/day
-Winstrol with tren at the same time will fuck up your joints
-Instead of dostinex or caberg, masteron will do the work
-T3 is garbage, shoudnt be use unless you a dieting for a show
-You ALWAYS need to eat high protein and lift heavy, not only on tren lol
-Again, no femera, anti-e are harsh on the body, u better go with masteron
bullshit,T3 is awesome for growing lean and loosing fat same time with a not so clean diet.
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Saw this on another board. I was wondering if it's good info or junk?
Trenbolone Handbook:
-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone
-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed
-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less
-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week
-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin
-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys
-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher
-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains
-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone
-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only
-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better
all bro science
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LOL
Just jerk off over the pic in my avatar, thats what i do :P
is it 3d rendered or real? i can't tell.
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lol
my workout today was this
2 sets of cable crossovers, first set 50lbs X 20 reps, second set 70lbs X 15 reps
2 sets of decline hammers with 2 plates per side, 15 reps each
3 sets incline barbell press 135lbs 12 reps each
2 sets dumbell laterals 50lbs 8 sets each
2 sets military press 135lbs 10 reps each
2 sets dumbell preacher curls 40lbs 12 reps each
2 sets reverse grip single hand pushdowns (using the pulley) 40lbs X 15 reps, 50lbs 12 reps
LIFT HEAVY ;D
I would quit after 2 weeks training like that...
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Its junk
-You don't have to use at least 500mg test with tren...test is only there to maintain libido, 300mg can be enough for some ppl
-You can use way more than 80mg/day
-Winstrol with tren at the same time will fuck up your joints
-Instead of dostinex or caberg, masteron will do the work
-T3 is garbage, shoudnt be use unless you a dieting for a show
-You ALWAYS need to eat high protein and lift heavy, not only on tren lol
-Again, no femera, anti-e are harsh on the body, u better go with masteron
150mg test will do the trick for libido tbh
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bullshit,T3 is awesome for growing lean and loosing fat same time with a not so clean diet.
Lol I didnt say its not effective, I do know it works really good!
I say it's bullshit cuz you shoudnt fuck arround with your thyroid...once you fuck it up, u'll have a lot of fun depending on meds the rest of your life, thats my point!
In the end, you do what you want bro, only giving my advice
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well my tren E kicked in yesterday, and i honestly feel like i just got kicked right in the nuts by the undertaker.
i guess i forgot my cranberries.
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Saw this on another board. I was wondering if it's good info or junk?
Trenbolone Handbook:
Overall it's retarded. I'd actually call it one of the smartest sounding but stupid things regarding Tren or steroids I've ever read.
-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone
This one bothered me more so than anything else. It's too much of a blanket statement. If you're not interested in a lot of testosterone use but you still want to prevent a low testosterone condition you may not need 500mg, you might be able to get by with 300mg or Test-P a wk, maybe even 200mg a wk...it'll depend on the guy and the Tren dose, but the set 500mg thing is just plain idiotic and it only goes down hill from there.
-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed
I do believe Tren-A is superior, but you can use others with very good results. I only say Tren-A is superior because it's so much easier to maintain peak levels with at all times. Even so, you can do this with EOD just fine. There is a time and place for ED but it's not necessary all the time.
-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less
This is nothing but retarded, it might actually bother me more than the first one....he says this and gives no basis for it? Probably because there isn't one.
-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
Crap!
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week
Crap!
-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin
Can't hurt anything but not necessary.
-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys
Crap. Can't hurt but won't help in to a significant level.
-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher
Big fat pile of crap. I mean this guy might of well have said "...and always look up when you look down."
-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains
Retarded....sounds good but that's all it does. Heavy is a relative term that gets thrown around way too much.
-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone
Arimidex will do just as well as Femara, which is spelled "FEMARA" not "FEMERA"...I know, I'm being difficult, but that just gave me a good idea about who wrote this...well, that and a few other things...could be wrong though.
-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only
Avoid carbs when you don't need them, avoid any food when you don't need it, eat food when you do need it....time of day means nothing.
-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better[/b]
Drink a lot of water every day, Tren or no Tren....Water, Good - No Water, Bad.
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If its not from gh15, its garbage.. and quite frankly, as many of the above poster's stated: the OP is bullshit and fucking retarded!!
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^^All you need in a "tren handbook" is in the bible
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this tore my shoulders up and was hell on my rotator cuff but adding static holds at the ends of my sets gave me some pretty good gains. static holds once you hit concentric failure, and then just holding the dumbbell perpendicular to you at a 90 degree for as long as you can, with every ounce of effort which makes it feel kind of like a concentric once the dumbbell starts to fall. was real hell but worked extremely well for me until my shoulders got so bad i couldn't even flip a light switch lol.
ill try that out using lighter weight. on prettyy much every lift i do 3-4 second eccentric, 4-5 second pause and squeeze at the top(peak contraction), and aabout 1 second concentric.
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Overall it's retarded. I'd actually call it one of the smartest sounding but stupid things regarding Tren or steroids I've ever read.
This one bothered me more so than anything else. It's too much of a blanket statement. If you're not interested in a lot of testosterone use but you still want to prevent a low testosterone condition you may not need 500mg, you might be able to get by with 300mg or Test-P a wk, maybe even 200mg a wk...it'll depend on the guy and the Tren dose, but the set 500mg thing is just plain idiotic and it only goes down hill from there.
I do believe Tren-A is superior, but you can use others with very good results. I only say Tren-A is superior because it's so much easier to maintain peak levels with at all times. Even so, you can do this with EOD just fine. There is a time and place for ED but it's not necessary all the time.
This is nothing but retarded, it might actually bother me more than the first one....he says this and gives no basis for it? Probably because there isn't one.
Crap!
Crap!
Can't hurt anything but not necessary.
Crap. Can't hurt but won't help in to a significant level.
Big fat pile of crap. I mean this guy might of well have said "...and always look up when you look down."
Retarded....sounds good but that's all it does. Heavy is a relative term that gets thrown around way too much.
Arimidex will do just as well as Femara, which is spelled "FEMARA" not "FEMERA"...I know, I'm being difficult, but that just gave me a good idea about who wrote this...well, that and a few other things...could be wrong though.
Avoid carbs when you don't need them, avoid any food when you don't need it, eat food when you do need it....time of day means nothing.
Drink a lot of water every day, Tren or no Tren....Water, Good - No Water, Bad.
Spot on.
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you can keep relatively stable levels with tren E if you inject m, w, f. obviously there is a 2 day break there which messes things up a bit, but is this really significant?
(that's a question by the way, not a rhetorical.. i am actually interested)
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ill try that out using lighter weight. on prettyy much every lift i do 3-4 second eccentric, 4-5 second pause and squeeze at the top(peak contraction), and aabout 1 second concentric.
yeah, that's pretty good, a lot better form than me lol. but in anycase, it's really just the eccentric that builds muscle fiber and the concentric is more for building strength without size by increasing motor neural efficiency. so provided you aren't going slack on the eccentric like a lot of guys do - just dropping the weights or easing up tension - then it will be sufficient for causing growth.
the static holds, to go past failure, is a method of training delts similar to how people bench press with a spotter leaning onto the weight during the eccentric, so that the total weight on the bar is well over the lifter's 1RM. it's similar in principle and application as this, as it is pushing the muscles well past failure and forcing a lot of microtrauma to muscle tissue and as a result triggers a response by the body to produce an aggregate pool of myosatellite cells - which inevitably bind to muscle cells and is the cause of hypertrophy/hyperplasia
one more thing, if you do try this be cautious when doing overhead presses afterwards since you will exhaust your rotator cuff and shoulders, and it's a scenario that can lead to an injury if not careful - this actually happened to me a few years ago, and i think that's how i partially tore my rhomboid that still hurts to this day.
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like heavy negatives basically.
i dont go to failure, havent for about a year, i respond better this way.
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word, i know some people who like to go just before failure on reps and it works well for them. for me, i don't seem to grow as well if i don't go to failure, but, i can grow pretty well going to failure and negative failure. i don't know why, whether it's my training or my genetics but for me, i just have to completely destroy my upper body parts if i want them to grow.
different strokes for different folks i guess
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...different strokes for different folks i guess
Yup