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Obama live speech:"Jesus would raise taxes on 'the rich'"
MSNBC The Daily RunDown Live stream | 2/2/2012 | SOL/Obama at Prayer breakfast
Obama just said in a live speech (9:18 AM EST) at a Prayer Breakfast that he wants to raise taxes on the rich because his Christian values tell him to personally give more to those less fortunate by raising his own taxes, just as Jesus would do. Not kidding.... now he just called federal welfare 'charity'... and just accused those of opposing tax increases as 'not having Jesus love of others in their hearts'
Did Jesus really ask the Romans to raise taxes on the Jews and Samaritans to pay for the fish, bread and wine for the early Christians for economic fairness?? I read the Bible a few times but missed that part, "The Book of Krugman" ?
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Obama: I Pushed Dodd-Frank And Health Care Reform Because Of Christ
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/obama-i-pushed-dodd-frank-and-health-care-reform
At National Prayer Breakfast, Obama grounds his controversial policies in the Bible. Tax hikes for rich “[coincide] with Jesus's teaching.” posted Feb 2, 2012 10:06am EST
President Barack Obama has been taking lumps from Republicans for years over his support for Wall Street and health care reform, but today at the National Prayer Breakfast he claimed support from on high to defend two of his most controversial legislative achievements.
"And so when I talk about our financial institutions playing by the same rules as folks on Main Street, when I talk about making sure insurance companies aren’t discriminating against those who are already sick, or making sure that unscrupulous lenders aren’t taking advantage of the most vulnerable among us, I do so because I genuinely believe it will make the economy stronger for everybody. But I also do it because I know that far too many neighbors in our country have been hurt and treated unfairly over the last few years, and I believe in God’s command to 'love thy neighbor as thyself.'"
"I know the version of that Golden Rule is found in every major religion and every set of beliefs — from Hinduism to Islam to Judaism to the writings of Plato," Obama added.
The president said he often falls to his knees in prayer, and emphasized the role of his religious values in determining where to lead the country.
"I’d be remiss if I stopped there; if my values were limited to personal moments of prayer or private conversations with pastors or friends. So instead, I must try — imperfectly, but I must try — to make sure those values motivate me as one leader of this great nation."
Obama maintained that his call for the wealthiest to give up their tax breaks, he's doing so out of economic necessity, but also in line with biblical teachings.
"And I think to myself, if I’m willing to give something up as somebody who’s been extraordinarily blessed, and give up some of the tax breaks that I enjoy, I actually think that’s going to make economic sense. But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that 'for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,'" Obama said, noting Jewish and Islamic teachings say much the same thing.
Obama also defended foreign aid from assault, noting that it not just enhances the nation's security — but fulfills the biblical requirement to look out for those who cannot speak for themselves.
"And when I decide to stand up for foreign aid, or prevent atrocities in places like Uganda, or take on issues like human trafficking, it’s not just about strengthening alliances, or promoting democratic values, or projecting American leadership around the world, although it does all those things and it will make us safer and more secure. It’s also about the biblical call to care for the least of these — for the poor; for those at the margins of our society.
To answer the responsibility we’re given in Proverbs to 'Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute.'"
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DEFEND THIS YOU LEFTISTS!
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I wonder if Jesus told him to do Fast n Furious, Solyndra, palling around w Corzine/Soros/Buffett, etc.
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Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
So, now his religious beliefs determine how he will govern. Isn't this the exact type of behavior that Liberals fear might be perpetuated by Republicans? LOL!! I guess no Liberal will vote for this fool who believes in a man in the sky, watching over us, who can be spoken to via prayers and whose "word" in the Bible should be used to write government policies.
HEHEHEHEHE. Interesting how God is used by this clown when speaking about taxes, but not regarding abortion, same sex unions, illegal immigration (Ro. 13.1), and his own thieving, conniving, and hypocritical ways.
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Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
So, now his religious beliefs determine how he will govern. Isn't this the exact type of behavior that Liberals fear might be perpetuated by Republicans? LOL!! I guess no Liberal will vote for this fool who believes in a man in the sky, watching over us, who can be spoken to via prayers and whose "word" in the Bible should be used to write government policies.
HEHEHEHEHE. Interesting how God is used by this clown when speaking about taxes, but not regarding abortion, same sex unions, illegal immigration (Ro. 13.1), and his thieving, conniving, and hypocritical ways.
The far leftists / communists / liberals / socialists etc will NEVER hold Obama to the same standards they seek to hold everyone else to.
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Funny how the leftists communists liberals marxists and socialists jump all over palin, bush, or whoever mentioning Jesus - yet when Pastor-in-Chief Obama does it - no biggie at all.
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Funny how the leftists communists liberals marxists and socialists jump all over palin, bush, or whoever mentioning Jesus - yet when Pastor-in-Chief Obama does it - no biggie at all.
LOL, Pastor-in-Chief. I'm gonna start using that one.
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Funny how the leftists communists liberals marxists and socialists jump all over palin, bush, or whoever mentioning Jesus - yet when Pastor-in-Chief Obama does it - no biggie at all.
I just saw this, but goddam is it bullshit... While it was at a specific religious get together, so he was probably pandering, I think it's fucking ridiculous... What the fuck?!
Romney 2012.
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I just saw this, but goddam is it bullshit... While it was at a specific religious get together, so he was probably pandering, I think it's fucking ridiculous... What the fuck?!
Romney 2012.
The worst part of this type of pandering IMHO is that I ask ok - if you think Jesus says to raise peoples' taxes, what guides you to make drone strikes on people knowing innocents die as well signing the NDAA, rewarding the "money changers" like Soros, corzine, etc etc etc.
Do people not see how hypocritical this crap is?
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Obama Cites Jesus, Misses the Obvious Point
All American Blogger ^ | 2-2-12 | Duane Lester
President Obama was trying to bring Jesus in as a class warfare warrior today, saying that as a Christian, Jesus expected him to fleece the rich:
The rich should pay more not only because “I actually think that is going to make economic sense, but for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that ‘for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,’” Obama said at the Washington Hilton, delivering remarks at an annual event that every president has attended since Dwight D. Eisenhower.
“We can all benefit from turning to our Creator, listening to him,” Obama said. “Avoiding phony religiosity. … This is especially important right now when we’re facing some big challenges as a nation.”
A bold statement, one I suppose he thinks bolsters his position. However, there's a word in there that changes everything.
"Given."
See, Obama isn't talking about looting from those who have been "given" anything. He's talking about shaking down the producers, the "creators" of profit, those who have, through their own industry, created wealth.
Jesus never said, "Eat the rich." That was Lemmy.
If Obama really, truly believes Jesus’s teaching that ‘for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,’” let's apply that to the recipient of government assistance. If you are given much from the benevolent government, shouldn't much be required from you?
Without a doubt.
But it is considered an outrage that we would even consider doing a urinalysis on those who collect government assistance, despite the fact that those who were forced to pay for the assistance were often willing to provide a sample.
How about those who live in government housing? Should we expect them to keep the property clean and in good repair? They are getting much, should we not expect much? And "the projects" have become synonymous with filth and squalor. Why do we not have a squad of government employees who force the people who take advantage of the coerced charity provided by the taxpayer? Why isn't much required from them?
And why aren't they required to show an increase in the skills necessary to stop being a good for nothing and start being a producer? Remember the story I put on the blog this winter about an Atlanta woman who was upset about not getting federal heating assistance? In the photo of her, you can clearly see a huge flat screen television and an XBox 360.
Why are those who enjoy the largesse of widespread government seizure of personal property allowed to spend money on such luxuries? Shouldn't much be required, including the sacrifice of high definition television until you can pay for your own heat?
Why are those enrolled in the SNAP program not assigned someone to teach them how to get the most for their food dollar, in both nutrition and value? Instead, Democrats in the Senate won't even consider a bill that prohibits that loot from being spent at strip clubs, liquor stores and casinos.
If Obama really wants those "unto whom much is given" to return much, start with those who are actually "given" their property. The rich, by and large, have created their wealth.
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How people did not just stand up and leave when this communist mooching leech is beyond me.
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Blending politics and religion, Obama says his policies are an extension of Christian faith
By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, February 2, 3:29 PM
WASHINGTON — Blending politics and religion, President Barack Obama said his Christian faith is a driving force behind his economic policies, from Wall Street reform to his calls for the wealthy to pay higher taxes.
Obama’s remarks Thursday at the National Prayer Breakfast were his most explicit account of how his personal religious beliefs factor into his decision-making on the nation’s pressing problems. The comments came amid election-year criticism from Catholic groups and some Republicans that the president is waging a war on religion following his decision to require church-affiliated institutions to cover free birth control for employees.
Speaking to more than 3,000 people at the annual breakfast, Obama said “faith and values” should play as much as role in tackling the nation’s challenges as sound decision-making and smart policies.
He said, for example, that his own call for fairness in the tax code — a central tenet of his State of the Union address and his 2012 campaign — is both economically sound and consistent with the teachings of Jesus.
“If I’m willing to give something up as somebody who’s been extraordinarily blessed, and give up some of the tax breaks that I enjoy, I actually think that’s going to make economic sense,” he said. “But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that ‘for unto whom much is given, much shall be required.’ It mirrors the Islamic belief that those who’ve been blessed have an obligation to use those blessings to help others, or the Jewish doctrine of moderation and consideration for others.”
He also said the Wall Street reform he championed both “makes the economy stronger for everyone” and abides by God’s command to “love thy neighbor as thyself” because it helped people who had been hurt or treated unfairly by financial institutions.
And Obama said he believed in a “biblical call” to care for the poor and to follow “the responsibility we’re given in Proverbs to ‘Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute.’”
The president’s remarks came one day after Mitt Romney, the front-runner for the Republican nomination, created a flap with clumsy comments about the poor.
Romney said wasn’t concerned about the “very poor” because they have a safety net. He also said he wasn’t concerned about the very rich and intended to focus his campaign on the middle class.
“You can focus on the very poor; that’s not my focus,” Romney said.
While the White House said the president’s remarks were not meant to be political, his comments did fit neatly into the Obama campaign’s effort to draw sharp contrasts between the president and Romney.
The former Massachusetts governor is among Republicans who have criticized the president for not exempting religious organizations from a requirement in the 2010 health care law that requires insurers to cover birth control for their employees. Romney said this week that the president was ordering “religious organizations to violate their conscience.”
GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said Obama has “declared war on the Catholic Church,” and House Speaker John Boehner said Thursday the mandate violates the Constitution.
Obama never mentioned the controversy in his remarks Thursday, nor did he reference his Republican rivals by name. But his broader defense of his policies was a rare interjection of politics into the annual prayer breakfast. The breakfast is organized by bipartisan congressional lawmakers, but speakers often avoid overt political references beyond calling for civility and respect in Washington.
While Obama speaks often about his faith, he prefers to worship in private. He said Thursday that he starts each morning with a brief prayer, then spends time reading scripture. Sometimes, he said, pastors come to the Oval Officer to pray with him, for his family and for the country.
He also described his own religious transformation in deeply personal language Thursday, from growing up in a non-religious home to finding Christ later in his life. He recalled a visit a few years ago with the evangelist Rev. Billy Graham, which ended with the president feeling compelled to pray for the aging Graham.
Obama said when he found himself at that moment not knowing what to say, the Holy Spirit interceded.
“I have fallen on my knees with great regularity since that moment, asking God for guidance not just in my personal life and my Christian walk, but in the life of this nation and in the values that hold us together and keep us strong,” he said.
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LOL!!!!! oBAMA FALLING TO HIS KNEES? ? ? LMFAO!!!!!
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what i think is on the first article, which is ridiculously stupid is that you can have christian values and not be a christian.
Also, notice the red herring and straw man.
"Did jesus raise taxes on blah blah" no you fucking moron he didnt, but his values dictate that he would of said to tax the richest among you and give to the poor. Hence, obama saying my christian values make me tax the rich he is right, but his statement requires inferences stupid people cant make.
Sorry for harping on the intelligence thing but anti-intellectualism is a real problem in the states, perhaps your biggest problem, you have terrible articles like this being paraded around as good journalism and rational thought. It's written by a clearly terrible idiot or someone who is purposely being obtuse in order to control stupid people. Which one do you think it is.
when did usa become proud of its ignorance and when did morons become championed? it's embarrasing, you are the laughing stock of the world because of the platforms you give morons. Someone like Palin is clearly stupid and should be workin at a 7-11, yet in america the bitch almost becomes vice pres, REALLY? how fucking stupid can one be? The bitch can't name one newspaper, she thinks geography dictates foreign policy and yet idiots like the coach are saying shes better then obama. Sure her ideals may be, but she is so stupid that the performance of those ideals will be piss poor and she because of being a sub human will make poor decisions.
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what i think is on the first article, which is ridiculously stupid is that you can have christian values and not be a christian.
Also, notice the red herring and straw man.
"Did jesus raise taxes on blah blah" no you fucking moron he didnt, but his values dictate that he would of said to tax the richest among you and give to the poor. Hence, obama saying my christian values make me tax the rich he is right, but his statement requires inferences stupid people cant make.
Sorry for harping on the intelligence thing but anti-intellectualism is a real problem in the states, perhaps your biggest problem, you have terrible articles like this being paraded around as good journalism and rational thought. It's written by a clearly terrible idiot or someone who is purposely being obtuse in order to control stupid people. Which one do you think it is.
when did usa become proud of its ignorance and when did morons become championed? it's embarrasing, you are the laughing stock of the world because of the platforms you give morons. Someone like Palin is clearly stupid and should be workin at a 7-11, yet in america the bitch almost becomes vice pres, REALLY? how fucking stupid can one be? The bitch can't name one newspaper, she thinks geography dictates foreign policy and yet idiots like the coach are saying shes better then obama. Sure her ideals may be, but she is so stupid that the performance of those ideals will be piss poor and she because of being a sub human will make poor decisions.
LOL!!!!!!
Are you kidding? Jesus never advocated state compulsion to enforce these things. It is supposed to be based on a persons' own volution and desire to do so.
And rich people, at least those who really earned it unlike obama, were not given anything, they WORKED FOR IT AND EARNED IT!
The only ones GIVEN anything are the lazy welfare brats and pieces of garbage who soak the workering taxpayers dry.
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what i think is on the first article, which is ridiculously stupid is that you can have christian values and not be a christian.
Also, notice the red herring and straw man.
"Did jesus raise taxes on blah blah" no you fucking moron he didnt, but his values dictate that he would of said to tax the richest among you and give to the poor. Hence, obama saying my christian values make me tax the rich he is right, but his statement requires inferences stupid people cant make.
Sorry for harping on the intelligence thing but anti-intellectualism is a real problem in the states, perhaps your biggest problem, you have terrible articles like this being paraded around as good journalism and rational thought. It's written by a clearly terrible idiot or someone who is purposely being obtuse in order to control stupid people. Which one do you think it is.
when did usa become proud of its ignorance and when did morons become championed? it's embarrasing, you are the laughing stock of the world because of the platforms you give morons. Someone like Palin is clearly stupid and should be workin at a 7-11, yet in america the bitch almost becomes vice pres, REALLY? how fucking stupid can one be? The bitch can't name one newspaper, she thinks geography dictates foreign policy and yet idiots like the coach are saying shes better then obama. Sure her ideals may be, but she is so stupid that the performance of those ideals will be piss poor and she because of being a sub human will make poor decisions.
Obama blames ATM machines for job losses , who is the idiot?
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LOL. Who actually believes this jackass any more?
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Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
So, now his religious beliefs determine how he will govern. Isn't this the exact type of behavior that Liberals fear might be perpetuated by Republicans? LOL!! I guess no Liberal will vote for this fool who believes in a man in the sky, watching over us, who can be spoken to via prayers and whose "word" in the Bible should be used to write government policies.
HEHEHEHEHE. Interesting how God is used by this clown when speaking about taxes, but not regarding abortion, same sex unions, illegal immigration (Ro. 13.1), and his own thieving, conniving, and hypocritical ways.
This is a great point. Apparently Obama is one of those "Bible thumpers" the people in NYC and San Fran love to hate.
Don't worry, though, as religion is "cool" with the Usurper embraces it.
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GOP's Hatch: Someone needs to remind Obama he's not Jesus Christ
The Hill ^ | 2/02/12 | Josiah Ryan
Posted on February 2, 2012 7:34:41 PM EST by Libloather
GOP's Hatch: Someone needs to remind Obama he's not Jesus Christ
By Josiah Ryan - 02/02/12 06:43 PM ET
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) on Thursday evening said President Obama needs a reminder that he is not Jesus Christ.
"In 2008, the president declared that his nomination was the world historical moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal," Hatch said in a a speech from the Senate floor.
"Someone needs to remind the president that there was only one person who walked on water and he did not occupy the Oval Office."
Hatch skewered the president for a remark he made at the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday morning, during which he suggested Jesus might support his plan to raise taxes on wealthy Americans.
“For me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that 'for unto to whom much is given, much shall be required,'" Obama said at the breakfast.
Hatch, who is a devout Mormon, suggested Obama was trying to "assume the role of theologian-in-chief" and said he ought to stick to public policy.
"[Obama] suggested to the attendees that Jesus would have supported his latest tax-the-rich schemes," Hatch said. "With due respect to the president, he ought to stick to public policy. I think most Americans would agree that the gospels are concerned with weightier matters than effective tax rates.”
Hatch said Obama does not even live up to the example set by two former presidents he claims to admire, Franklin Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln.
"At some moments in our nation's history, at moments of crises, leaders have emerged, put partisanship aside and worked to solve our greatest challenges, though our current president, who's compared himself to both Franklin Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, his leadership is falling well short of their examples," Hatch said.
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GOP's Hatch: Someone needs to remind Obama he's not Jesus Christ
The Hill ^ | 2/02/12 | Josiah Ryan
Posted on February 2, 2012 7:34:41 PM EST by Libloather
GOP's Hatch: Someone needs to remind Obama he's not Jesus Christ
By Josiah Ryan - 02/02/12 06:43 PM ET
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) on Thursday evening said President Obama needs a reminder that he is not Jesus Christ.
"In 2008, the president declared that his nomination was the world historical moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal," Hatch said in a a speech from the Senate floor.
"Someone needs to remind the president that there was only one person who walked on water and he did not occupy the Oval Office."
Hatch skewered the president for a remark he made at the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday morning, during which he suggested Jesus might support his plan to raise taxes on wealthy Americans.
“For me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that 'for unto to whom much is given, much shall be required,'" Obama said at the breakfast.
Hatch, who is a devout Mormon, suggested Obama was trying to "assume the role of theologian-in-chief" and said he ought to stick to public policy.
"[Obama] suggested to the attendees that Jesus would have supported his latest tax-the-rich schemes," Hatch said. "With due respect to the president, he ought to stick to public policy. I think most Americans would agree that the gospels are concerned with weightier matters than effective tax rates.”
Hatch said Obama does not even live up to the example set by two former presidents he claims to admire, Franklin Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln.
"At some moments in our nation's history, at moments of crises, leaders have emerged, put partisanship aside and worked to solve our greatest challenges, though our current president, who's compared himself to both Franklin Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, his leadership is falling well short of their examples," Hatch said.
Wurd.
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Obama live speech:"Jesus would raise taxes on 'the rich'"
MSNBC The Daily RunDown Live stream | 2/2/2012 | SOL/Obama at Prayer breakfast
Obama just said in a live speech (9:18 AM EST) at a Prayer Breakfast that he wants to raise taxes on the rich because his Christian values tell him to personally give more to those less fortunate by raising his own taxes, just as Jesus would do. Not kidding.... now he just called federal welfare 'charity'... and just accused those of opposing tax increases as 'not having Jesus love of others in their hearts'
Did Jesus really ask the Romans to raise taxes on the Jews and Samaritans to pay for the fish, bread and wine for the early Christians for economic fairness?? I read the Bible a few times but missed that part, "The Book of Krugman" ?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha what a pussy. Why do these people always have to justify shit with their faith?
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Lol @ Obama desperatley pandering to the religious poor.
Jesus tells me that socialism is the right way to go! ::) ::)
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Politics trumps religion, race, sex, and everything else.
Remember back when Colin Powell held up those pictures of those supposed mobile weapon labs? Once those pictures were proven fake and that Iraq did indeed have no WMDs, Powell was reviled, bashed, and held up to be a complete idiot by the mass media......but then he endorses Obama, that same media and talking heads talked about what an honorable and great man he was.
The Democratic Party advertises itself to be the party of civil rights and protectors of minorities....particular ly females and blacks. However, once a female or black is on the opposing political party, the scathing attacks are twice as vicious and brutal.
The Republicans purport to be representative of the moral majority, the party of family values and of Evangelical Christians. At the behest of the Israeli Lobby and their near equally powerful Evangelical supporters, was it a Christian thing to do to pre-emptively attack Iraq and other regions in the Middle East causing hundreds of thousands of deaths?........nations which had never attacked the US. How many hypocritical Republicans have we seen cheat on their wives, knock on bathroom stalls, or turn up in a Madam's Black Book?
Both sides utilize the teachings of Jesus Christ in order to influence policy, gain popularity to boost poll numbers, and receive votes from a gullible public. It is an effective tactic, even though what they demonstrate is certainly not so.
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Obama blames ATM machines for job losses , who is the idiot?
he may very well be but your intellect demands that the lesser idiot take office. I'm against all of these morons except paul because he is a doctor, an educated well thought out man with character.
by your logic the fact that this article was written by a moron doesnt matter because obama is more of a moron. This is called being stupid you are not that bright yet you have a say in what the usa does, absurd.
You post non stop look at your posts you are mentally un well dude, and you are so blind that you cant even accept another position.
i write out a well thought out cogent message and your response was obama is an idiot, you are the problem with america you take no time to make decisions, believe propaganda and are a sheep. seriously you would vote republican despite any good candidates.
obama is better the romney,newt,bachmann etc.
paul is better, huntsman sounds better. I dont even have to look at the policies, hypocrisy and the degree of it will allow corruption to continue, stop fucking up the world. You need a man with character and morals, not these automaton christian hypocrites.
Its laughable, please engage in rational discourse, stop with the headline responses, it shows just like the majority of the repub base that you either dont care enough to think about your position or are an anti-intellectual, this stupid movement will bury your country. Its almost like you can't tell stupid people they are stupid lol.
you are the kid who gest 56 in math and thinks because he passed he is as smart or well reasoned as the person who did the best.
Im harping on this because i sincerely believe anti-intellectualism will kill you guys and really fuck up the world. GOP candidates are great if the person is good, i odnt see parties just people, ron paul wins everytime against these morons. lke if u cry evrytim
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he may very well be but your intellect demands that the lesser idiot take office. I'm against all of these morons except paul because he is a doctor, an educated well thought out man with character.
by your logic the fact that this article was written by a moron doesnt matter because obama is more of a moron. This is called being stupid you are not that bright yet you have a say in what the usa does, absurd.
You post non stop look at your posts you are mentally un well dude, and you are so blind that you cant even accept another position.
i write out a well thought out cogent message and your response was obama is an idiot, you are the problem with america you take no time to make decisions, believe propaganda and are a sheep. seriously you would vote republican despite any good candidates.
obama is better the romney,newt,bachmann etc.
paul is better, huntsman sounds better. I dont even have to look at the policies, hypocrisy and the degree of it will allow corruption to continue, stop fucking up the world. You need a man with character and morals, not these automaton christian hypocrites.
Its laughable, please engage in rational discourse, stop with the headline responses, it shows just like the majority of the repub base that you either dont care enough to think about your position or are an anti-intellectual, this stupid movement will bury your country. Its almost like you can't tell stupid people they are stupid lol.
you are the kid who gest 56 in math and thinks because he passed he is as smart or well reasoned as the person who did the best.
Im harping on this because i sincerely believe anti-intellectualism will kill you guys and really fuck up the world. GOP candidates are great if the person is good, i odnt see parties just people, ron paul wins everytime against these morons. lke if u cry evrytim
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I don't have to post a lengthy post to destroy your false narratives and failed belief systems.
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obama while right on the effects on automation on business people have taken his argument to the extreme. This is a tactic of stupid people. He said automation may explain why the un employment rate is stubborn despite economic recovery. Most economists think it plays a small role, while some others think it is a medium effect. You are suggesting obama means that all jobs lost are do to ATMS.
You fucking idiots are steeped in propaganda LOLOLOLOLOL.
in fact you are in a recovery, thus his explanation while perhaps wrong in terms of magnitude is right that it is a variable perhaps a key one but perhaps a nuisance variable. He has reason to believe this may be the case as the recession hit approx 52 thousand bank jobs were lost, because they were no longer needed and banks replaced them with automation. However, that is recovering but not fast enough, so obama is suggesting that too much automation is a bad thing, that our reliance on machines not people.
you see obama is smart, he is playing with people like me who understand that automation should be reviewed, however, he plays to the dummies with the hope and change, people like you like slogans, thats why you respond in headlines.
i could make the best points ever, you would state OBAMA THAT KEYAN FUCK loloololololololol. Its sad that the media owns your mind to the point where you feel the need to post thousands times a week with propaganda, always attacking obama.
good luck dude if you want some help again i can try, pm me.
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The maker of the horse and buggy and Pay phone agree with you.
Only an abject idiot buys in to Obamas luddite incompetence and illiteracy on economics.
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false narratives? you post sensationalist media stories lol.
your response to my post was obama blames ATMS for all of the worlds problems, he never did and in fact his reasoning is sound but the conclusion might not be, you fucking sub humans cant fathom that people may not have the answer, that he is surmising. Please for the sake of the world, stay home election day. tell your friends the same, i have a feeling they are christian, pro life tards.
if they are not i apologize, i bet you are a christian bullshitter arent you? Love thy neighbor, well only if hes not black right 33 you fucking imbecile bigot.
obama is a very intelligent man, he proves it all the time, his biases may steer him wrong and clearly he has an un-co operative congress. Fucking Bonner handed our tabacco lobby checks on the floor, lol, how much of a spineless girl does he have to show before you understand it.
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Lol. Obama is not intelligent. He is economically illiterate and incompetent and you can't point to one single thing this fool has done that evidences high intelligence other than follow the advice of some people way more intelligent than him who surround him.
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What does loving my neighbor have to do with 50 percent of the population demanding free shit by their proxy Obama from those who work?
That is not love, it is theft and larceny.
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The maker of the horse and buggy and Pay phone agree with you.
Only an abject idiot buys in to Obamas luddite incompetence and illiteracy on economics.
haha you moron no one is suggesting techonology doesnt improve society and amount of jobs most of the time, but guess what sometimes it removes human need and thus there are less and less jobs as technology advances.
I feel bad for you you clearly aren't that bright or are a troll. If you are a troll you win the internetz dude, holy hell. I fear your not though, i fear people like you really exist and that they have a say in things that effect my life. I don't want you in my democracy because you can't participate properly.
umm automation can be proven to have negative effects on economics at times, sometimes great. As automation increases if human couterpart jobs are not made or found, what will people do?
you such obvious reasoning but you compare an atm (a bank tellers job) to horse and buggy. I shows me how stupid you are your analogy makes no sense. Analogies are a sign of intelligence, more proof you are a retard. Watch, the atm represents a job a human teller would do thus removing the teller for an atm has reprocussions, the teller no longer has a job, but now getting money is easier etc. You rebut my point through the failed analogy of an ATM ( you are implying this, since this is the topic at hand) by implying the horse and buggy didnt reduce jobs. Your right you moron because the horse is only making things more efficient it isnt taking a human job. What do you expect black people to drag you around if you never had a car, you incredible fucking moron. Thus, your analogy is stupid, but i knew this before finishing the sentence, i can tell you are stupid from one sentence or you are blinded and filled with propaganda, which i think is more likely because you are a professional.
seriously, you are like person in north korea who loves kim jong il, but insted you love the GOP and are a zealot.
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Lol. Obama is not intelligent. He is economically illiterate and incompetent and you can't point to one single thing this fool has done that evidences high intelligence other than follow the advice of some people way more intelligent than him who surround him.
um obviously you tard he will follow the advice of his economists the same way he takes into the consideration a generals war plan. There is nothing wrong with not having all the answers, he is a lawyer hence economics isn't his sole skill, you think economics is key to civilization it is not. Personal freedoms are more important people will die for them everyday, if you lose your job you wont fight as intensely hence the reason the economic problem is occuring.
they may know more about economics but that doesn't mean they are way more intelligent, it just means they are more knowledge. You show you lack of intelligence by your rational arguments, you suck at logic and thus are less intelligent. The ability to store information is but one part of intelligence, apparently one you think is more important then critical thinking, it is not nor will it ever be. The most intelligent are those who can apply the most correct logic and analogies, you fail at it.
let jesus take the wheel bro.
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Sorry that is Obama who is telling us to follow jesusnomics
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Obama refuses to pay for 2008 campaign event
NBC News Chicago ^ | 2/6/12
Posted on February 6, 2012 11:16:49 AM EST by Frankusa
Three and a half years after a rally by then candidate Barack Obama in Springfield, city officials in the state capitol say they are left holding the bill for police overtime.
On August 23, 2008 the Obama campaign rolled through central Illinois to announce Joe Biden as its Vice Presidential running mate...
Thousands turned out in the square by the old State Capitol to witness the announcement. But before the event could begin, the city of Springfield had work to do, said Alderman Frank Edwards.
“There are a lot of things that they asked for,” Edwards said. “Extra police, move things. You’ve got to have this A to Z and we provided that.”
The event went off without a hitch. Obama moved on to Denver, got his party’s nomination and ultimately a history-making general election victory.
But back in Springfield there remains one piece of unfinished business: an unpaid bill for $55,480.
“What they refused to pay was the $55,000 associated with police overtime for extra security,” said city Budget Director William McCarty.
On March 10, 2011 Alderman Edwards wrote the White House and the president “…to request your help.”...
Since 2009, McCarty says city officials have tried to determine who was responsible for the overdue debt.
“They contacted the DNC. They contacted the Obama campaign,” he said but no one wanted to pay. “That’s when the finger pointing began because the Obama campaign said we are a private organization, we are not responsible for the security.”
To try and cut through the clutter Edwards asked the President to intercede: “…sometimes only the executive himself can cut through such inter-departmental differences of opinion,” he wrote in last year’s letter. There was no immediate response.
On November 15, 2011 the Deputy COO of Obama for America, replied the Obama team wasn’t responsible for security or other costs.
This week a campaign officials said: “Presidential campaigns are not responsible for security costs.”
If a question persists Teal Baker wrote: “…we assume it should be directed to the U.S. Secret Service.”
Springfield officials contacted a local representative of the Secret Service but McCarty says they didn’t get too far, telling them: “We don’t pay bills out of here, you’ll need to contact Washington...
The Obama 2012 campaign declined to be interviewed but a official reiterated on background without attribution that the campaign does not pay for police overtime.
Springfield remains stuck with the bill.
City officials aren’t optimistic they will recover the $55,000, but they will keep trying.
“I mean it all comes back to common sense,” said Edwards. “If you are asking for something to be done and you know it cost money then you ought to be prepared to pay for it. It’s that simple.”
Why doesn't thugbama pay his own bills before demanding others pay more?
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Sorry that is Obama who is telling us to follow jesusnomics
are you a christian?
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are you a christian?
I am a lapsed catholic who is not religious in the least bit but respect those who are.
Btw - has Obama ever mentioned when and where and by whom he was baptized?
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I am a lapsed catholic who is not religious in the least bit but respect those who are.
Btw - has Obama ever mentioned when and where and by whom he was baptized?
I thought that was Wright.
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I am a lapsed catholic who is not religious in the least bit but respect those who are.
Btw - has Obama ever mentioned when and where and by whom he was baptized?
lol so this is still a major concern for you? not the corruption in congress, the fact that you are being robbed daily, the fact that they are fucking you in the ass solid.
you care where obama is from? he has done alot of good, you are a moron. He is in perhaps the toughest presidency ever, the new wars, the recession the insanity of the GOP denying tax raises no matter what. its absurd.
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lol so this is still a major concern for you? not the corruption in congress, the fact that you are being robbed daily, the fact that they are fucking you in the ass solid.
you care where obama is from? he has done alot of good, you are a moron. He is in perhaps the toughest presidency ever, the new wars, the recession the insanity of the GOP denying tax raises no matter what. its absurd.
Religious freedom is as important as any other right, whether I am religious or not.
Why should we have tax raises when Obama is only going to piss the money away on bullshit like Solyndra, Fast n Furious, ball washing etc? He has already proven to be a horrible steward of taxpayer dollars. Why enable his prolifigacy of pissing away money?
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I don't have to post a lengthy post to destroy your false narratives and failed belief systems.
Right. So why don't you just copy and paste 9,656 more articles?
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Sorry that is Obama who is telling us to follow jesusnomics
yes it would make the world better, those that have more then enough helping a fellow human who may be down on his luck or born into a shitty situation. Everyone needs help, if i have billions like gates i would do the morally and ethically responsible thing and give back most of it, its called empathy and caring. Economics are not above human quality of life, push QOL down and economics up and you will have a revolution, you take away freedoms and you are asking for trouble.
rich people live by socialism, they get tax breaks, they get big bonuses, they benefit from blue collar work to excel in there white collar jobs, its unfair that they can live like socialists while the poor are facing pure capitalism. Poor, yup you never worked hard enough, here pay your share of taxes. Umm CEO in your fathers company, here take more money and pay less taxes, take more vacation, take tax payer money to bail you out in case you fuck up spending others peoples money.
good job and being concerned about obamas origins, im sure that's the real issue.
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yes it would make the world better, those that have more then enough helping a fellow human who may be down on his luck or born into a shitty situation. Everyone needs help, if i have billions like gates i would do the morally and ethically responsible thing and give back most of it, its called empathy and caring. Economics are not above human quality of life, push QOL down and economics up and you will have a revolution, you take away freedoms and you are asking for trouble.
rich people live by socialism, they get tax breaks, they get big bonuses, they benefit from blue collar work to excel in there white collar jobs, its unfair that they can live like socialists while the poor are facing pure capitalism. Poor, yup you never worked hard enough, here pay your share of taxes. Umm CEO in your fathers company, here take more money and pay less taxes, take more vacation, take tax payer money to bail you out in case you fuck up spending others peoples money.
good job and being concerned about obamas origins, im sure that's the real issue.
Obama's origins are very important since it gives an idea of how he came to being a marxist traitor and economic illiterate.
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Religious freedom is as important as any other right, whether I am religious or not.
Why should we have tax raises when Obama is only going to piss the money away on bullshit like Solyndra, Fast n Furious, ball washing etc? He has already proven to be a horrible steward of taxpayer dollars. Why enable his prolifigacy of pissing away money?
he did not piss it away that is the problem, you are blind. the stimulus had clear positive effects, spending when in areas like infrastructure and protection of vital industries, if left to fail would cripple the world economy will pay you back. He had a hard choice and made the right one, the economy is recovering, slowly and vital industries were saved. More needs to be spent on infrastructure as it creates jobs and not on tax cuts etc.. Take the taxes and pay for infrastructure and technology, its the future. Green energy is the future, put more into that, petroleum is a dying source, the critical point has been reached those relying on petroleum technologies will die and die hard when supplies run out for real.
you are too shortsighted to see that, long term solutions that effect us must be made so that our children wont have worse problems.
so you thought the stimulus was a waste, or what is your position ect? right in some areas or wrong in others please dont paste something, i want your honest opinion on green energy and on the stimulus if you dont mind.
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Obama's origins are very important since it gives an idea of how he came to being a marxist traitor and economic illiterate.
cool can i see that circumstantial and spurious evidence you have? you're a lawyer ( yes im aware of my grammar) aren't you do you really think you can make those claims based on the evidence? because it's absurd. I honestly doubt you are a lawyer if you think there is evidence that is worthy of discussion regarding the statements you made.
his birth certificate was shown
they clearly do a background check for the president
as you see all the dirt on the candidates is brought up during elections, if it were true that obama was in fact an alien it would have been found otherwise you are suggesting the officials in charge of presidential races are incompetent, if they are the same judges or people in that position then its always been this way and it makes no difference, the system is broke.
theres more but for someone who claims to be a lawyer you sure lack critical thinking if you honestly believe what your saying. Extending the bush tax cuts was marxist?
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he did not piss it away that is the problem, you are blind. the stimulus had clear positive effects, spending when in areas like infrastructure and protection of vital industries, if left to fail would cripple the world economy will pay you back. He had a hard choice and made the right one, the economy is recovering, slowly and vital industries were saved. More needs to be spent on infrastructure as it creates jobs and not on tax cuts etc.. Take the taxes and pay for infrastructure and technology, its the future. Green energy is the future, put more into that, petroleum is a dying source, the critical point has been reached those relying on petroleum technologies will die and die hard when supplies run out for real.
you are too shortsighted to see that, long term solutions that effect us must be made so that our children wont have worse problems.
so you thought the stimulus was a waste, or what is your position ect? right in some areas or wrong in others please dont paste something, i want your honest opinion on green energy and on the stimulus if you dont mind.
The Stim Bill was a horrible waste of money. It did nothing but enable state level bloat and spending based on bubble era receipts which are not coming back. It rewarded corrupt donors, it helped blow out the deficit w no benefit, etc.
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