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Title: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: Big N on March 24, 2012, 07:10:01 PM


- Discuss
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: WOOO on March 24, 2012, 07:12:09 PM
i would suggest that GH may be involved... but could be natty... genetics are really important at that level
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: chess315 on March 24, 2012, 07:22:50 PM
I say no its is possible but I don't think so he looks to at least be super dry from diuretics. steroid free maybe but steroids arent the only P.E.D s I say he is on steroids even because imo it is clear he is lying about not being on any drugs.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: WOOO on March 24, 2012, 07:24:32 PM
I say no its is possible but I don't think so he looks to at least be super dry from diuretics.

he's not super dry... just really lean... take a look at early 90s olympia shots to see 'dryness'.... no sane person goes there today
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: chess315 on March 24, 2012, 07:26:47 PM
I don't think so that looks to be a non natural lean look that is just my opinion. Maybe if he peaked for the video but to walk around looking like that I say no.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: apply85 on March 24, 2012, 07:27:21 PM
my cousin fucks these guys out in ca, she says they go to mexico to get hgh
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: aesthetics on March 24, 2012, 07:30:54 PM
he's a twink doesn't mean he's still natty. anyone who makes a living off their body is going to be using something
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Krankenstein on March 24, 2012, 09:40:53 PM
my cousin fucks these guys out in ca, she says they go to mexico to get hgh


Ok..."your cousin"   ::)
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: howardroark on March 24, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
In all seriousness, none of us will ever know.

That said, clen + tren seems like a good combo I'd use to get to that level of leanness.  ;D
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: jude2 on March 24, 2012, 10:04:30 PM
In all seriousness, none of us will ever know.

That said, clen + tren seems like a good combo I'd use to get to that level of leanness.  ;D
Don't forget winny and anavar.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: buselmo on March 24, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
hardening drugs (very low doses), HGH, fat burners and diuretics...
muscles don't look like that on your shitty natural test production.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: howardroark on March 24, 2012, 10:25:58 PM
Don't forget winny and anavar.

Hey fuckhead, that doesn't rhyme like "clen and tren." See what I did there?  :P
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: ilalin on March 24, 2012, 10:54:29 PM
no way natural
low doses of roids, maybe hgh, definitely diazide
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: ilalin on March 24, 2012, 10:55:43 PM
if he keeps the condition up for long periods of time he'll end up in a dialysis unit
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: jude2 on March 24, 2012, 11:05:25 PM
Hey fuckhead, that doesn't rhyme like "clen and tren." See what I did there?  :P
Good job, little Wayne made a rhyme. ;)
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: ATHEIST on March 24, 2012, 11:07:46 PM
thats a hell of a way to make a living..having your livelihood depend on your abs. it seems like he hates what he does and is starving
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on March 24, 2012, 11:36:49 PM
Has an unnatural look to him.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Dipadidu on March 24, 2012, 11:40:36 PM
natural c0cksucker
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: diamondcut on March 25, 2012, 12:50:28 AM
i wonder what his real scale weight is?
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Gargamel on March 25, 2012, 01:06:04 AM
i wonder what his real scale weight is?

5'11 172-176 lbs says the internet
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: ChevChelios on March 25, 2012, 02:36:05 AM
15 IU,wtf are you crazy? i can believe something like 4-5 iu,some clen anavar t3,masteron and low doses of tren.But 15iu,c'mon...
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Cutlet767 on March 25, 2012, 02:38:45 AM
15 IU,wtf are you crazy? i can believe something like 4-5 iu,some clen anavar t3,masteron and low doses of tren.But 15iu,c'mon...

Too easy to troll getbiggers these days.

Anyway, this kid is probably just on a lot of diurertics. hormones for mass? unlikely. way too skinny. he's like 150 at best.

Actually change my mind, kid is probably natural. He's fucking shinny as hell.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: minto on March 25, 2012, 02:41:54 AM
surely he cant stay < 5% all year round natural. 60 meals a day? no carbs?
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: alnassak on March 25, 2012, 05:17:00 AM
He looks Natty to me ...
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: gh15 on March 25, 2012, 05:27:55 AM
anyone who ever been on a magazine cover used and usualy an addict to drugs,, this fella eventhough small ...used both narcotics and hormones and bi product of hormones such as diuretic,,

size as nothing to do with usage of drugs,,

many many fellas in the cult are naive,, i planted the seeds for change but still many are naive and many just want to sell ilusion for their own benefit ,, financial ,,

this fella condition can not be achieved naturaly ...6% yes...5.5 % yes maybe ill give him that naturaly ...but this bodyfat level...ALWYAS DRUGS,, and sadly narcotics in many times

i keep telling you friends....most fellas that do lifting ,, bodybuiling ,, try to build body and get money from it ,, and even if not try to get money from it,, most of them are serious serious mental cases with severe problems in the koko nut called brain ....each and every one in the getbig baord is suffering from same exact thing...it is mental deasese

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: NeilGM on March 25, 2012, 05:40:03 AM
Tren, Clen, Eph and T3 thats my bet
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: deadpan on March 25, 2012, 01:00:51 PM
i want to say diuretics and cutting drugs, prolly not gh/aas but maybe a little bit, everyone gets lazy sometimes

on a side note wtf is up with his obliques? not super aesthetic imo
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 25, 2012, 01:06:25 PM
hahahha oh brother


how can getbiggers still ask such questions



look at his chest look at his shrink wrapped abdominals

etc etc


and LOL at him adding imaginary abs
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Rami on March 25, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
hahahha oh brother


how can getbiggers still ask such questions



look at his chest look at his shrink wrapped abdominals

etc etc


and LOL at him adding imaginary abs

I know, pretty sad ain't it...

I guess they are new to this?
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: HugeAl on March 25, 2012, 01:59:18 PM
I guess gh15 can only lead a horse to water.

Everybody, everybody (imagine I typed this another 50 times) that makes a career or earns from their physique is taking something in this day and age. From the big pros, to the fitness models/cover models , to the guys pretending to be natural to sell you products and 'systems' online....they are all on something to either build mass, maintain mass, get insanely cut and keep lots of muscle, get insanely cut and keep a little muscle, just get insanely cut, get cut and small enough to be able to claim legit natural status etc..
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 25, 2012, 02:02:05 PM
He weighs 160 max. Yes he's natural. He has a tan and does 1,000's of sit-ups. Wow.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: diamondcut on March 25, 2012, 02:02:15 PM
5'11 172-176 lbs says the internet

no fucking way he's 172

he's gotta be more like 145-150
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 25, 2012, 02:02:49 PM
He weighs 160 max. Yes he's natural. He has a tan and does 1,000's of sit-ups. Wow.
yes because a 160lbs twink has that level of chest development
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 25, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
His BF% is 5 - 7 but his pecs are about an inch thick. Those arms pumped and flexed are 16" That is not a physique built with anabolic steroids. Clen? ECA? Sure.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: TheOne on March 25, 2012, 02:18:02 PM
hahahha oh brother


how can getbiggers still ask such questions



look at his chest look at his shrink wrapped abdominals

etc etc


and LOL at him adding imaginary abs


Hahaha, love the 'imaginary abs' comment.  I was like, shit I can't count properly when he started pointing them out!!!
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 25, 2012, 02:19:57 PM

Hahaha, love the 'imaginary abs' comment.  I was like, shit I can't count properly when he started pointing them out!!!
clearly he has some sort of "i'm special" complex
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: m8 on March 25, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
He's no Scott Alexander

(http://www.scottalexander.tv/x/img/media/scott.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 25, 2012, 02:55:08 PM

Hahaha, love the 'imaginary abs' comment.  I was like, shit I can't count properly when he started pointing them out!!!

 ;D ;D haha   I was curious about that ab count too. 
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2012, 03:38:49 PM
He's no Scott Alexander

(http://www.scottalexander.tv/x/img/media/scott.jpg)

perfection
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Papper on March 25, 2012, 04:13:17 PM
The thing that looks unnatural is the abs and the fullness of chest maybe. His abs looks leaner than the rest of him, when he flexes i expected much more striations in pecs and shoulders.

Look at the back in the mirror, not as lean as the rest of him.

Not saying he isnt using stuff but some have very deep abs genetically.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: TommyBoy on March 25, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
I love these threads. They bring out the stupid and insecure.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: gh15 on March 25, 2012, 07:45:06 PM
He weighs 160 max. Yes he's natural. He has a tan and does 1,000's of sit-ups. Wow.

you are one stupid old man ,, no wonder you got nothing from bodybuild and insted spent your time in prison ,, one STUPID old geezer ,, how can you be that dumb?

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 26, 2012, 12:00:03 AM
you are one stupid old man ,, no wonder you got nothing from bodybuild and insted spent your time in prison ,, one STUPID old geezer ,, how can you be that dumb?

gh15 approved

What's the matter fat boy? You still mad about your inability to get a website going?  Let me guess, you were discussing your website options with your friends in the State Department, or perhaps aliens were going to help you.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: gh15 on March 26, 2012, 12:16:36 AM
What's the matter fat boy? You still mad about your inability to get a website going?  Let me guess, you were discussing your website options with your friends in the State Department, or perhaps aliens were going to help you.

the media is coming ,, and the last time i was in the double digit...was ...when i was born you fucking infantile,, unlike you that sit on a good 20% on a regular basis inbetween your visits to big babas house

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 26, 2012, 12:20:23 AM
Yes fat boy, you always tell the truth.
 
"The pyramids were built by aliens."   -gh15
"I use the same needle for 100+ injections."  -gh15
"I have seen the actual defense plans for nuclear attack."  -gh15
"Mike O'Hearn can not squat 315 for reps."  -gh15
"500 mg's per day of Anadrol is common." -gh15
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: gh15 on March 26, 2012, 12:42:12 AM
tell me oen thing i said above that is not the truth ....

i have used during my career 500 mg anadrola more than once,, i didnt recomedn it i recomended less..but i have used it before

i did inject with same neelde over 100 times yes over 100 times infact right now this moment im using a neelde probably the 40 time atleast same exact one ..washed ofcourse with alcohol and very clean

inregard to pyramid...no human could do it too complicated...it was guided by aliens and even if not agree it is very much possibility and everyone is open to it even among humans with very hard core science basis they also start to open to possibility of that ...you havent heard of it since you are  A CONVICT of a serious SERIOUS crime ,,you belong betwen prison walls..not much is learned there ...chekc out your chanel in americana msnbc on saturday locked up! this is you! you are a fucking CRIMINAL

then you got the mike oahren ...one of the most pussy fellas i have seen and TRAINED around when he train legs ,, we both trained same gymnasium ,, he coudnt even cary my water bottle ,, he wasnt a profesional because HE COULDNT BE ONE,, and i never said he coudnt do 315...i said you wont see him doing 4 plates each side of bar for good reps ,, he doenst need it and wont do it was alwys pussy when it came to legs ,, unles he changed since i trained there but fellas like this dont change ,,rememebr he claim nautural,,.

you need one look in the mirror tom to understand THE PROBLEM OF THE CULT ARE WANNA BE CONVICTED FELLONS LIKE YOU ,, and you wil see what happens to them soon enough ,, soon enough bud bud

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 26, 2012, 12:47:20 AM
perfection
rightbiceptooshort / 10
Title: Is this guy natural?
Post by: dropp on March 26, 2012, 04:34:04 AM
This guy is from brazil and he say it is natural in foruns here.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/4kw4eb.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/66i7iv.jpg)

I'm brazilian elf.
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: gh15 on March 26, 2012, 04:48:33 AM
close but not,, this is someone who done halodrola and fat burners and ....did a cycle that he thoguhjt was fake ...all that storys you know ,, but no not true natural

he is dry ...if he truly does hormones like the addicts among us...he can blow to make damage

the reason he does hormones is very simple

the way the water sit on body,, take look in traps ,, forarms ,, and delts...he is not a mega doses of testosterona ...since you would never see thoe veins in delts on bloof balls in local gymasium ...but he is conditioned fella that bodybuild matter to and work with good quality products that are pure anabolics/androgenics with minal sides

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on March 26, 2012, 04:56:11 AM
what about his height?

For midget its easily achievable for 6'4 not.


Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: dropp on March 26, 2012, 04:58:25 AM
close but not,, this is someone who done halodrola and fat burners and ....did a cycle that he thoguhjt was fake ...all that storys you know ,, but no not true natural

he is dry ...if he truly does hormones like the addicts among us...he can blow to make damage

the reason he does hormones is very simple

the way the water sit on body,, take look in traps ,, forarms ,, and delts...he is not a mega doses of testosterona ...since you would never see thoe veins in delts on bloof balls in local gymasium ...but he is conditioned fella that bodybuild matter to and work with good quality products that are pure anabolics/androgenics with minal sides

gh15 approved
damn liar.

 Here we call the thiago priest. :D
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: dropp on March 26, 2012, 05:04:54 AM
what about his height?

For midget its easily achievable for 6'4 not.



He is 5'6 and 167lb
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on March 26, 2012, 05:09:47 AM
He is 5'6 and 167lb

listen carefully bro, that guy is 5'6 midget, its easy for him to have this mass.
Withh fast metabolism low bodyfat.

This guy CAN and probably really is NATURAL.

Never underestimate midggets in terms of gaining muscle.
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: Bevo on March 26, 2012, 05:23:56 AM
listen carefully bro, that guy is 5'6 midget, its easy for him to have this mass.
Withh fast metabolism low bodyfat.

This guy CAN and probably really is NATURAL.

Never underestimate midggets in terms of gaining muscle.

 ::)

Look at his condition, his skin, not natural can't believe people believe this BS


Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: oliveiraugo on March 26, 2012, 05:42:43 AM
this guy is a joke lol

natural lol, his name should be now Thiago Priest.

he is 6% conditioned, veins all over, full abs, thick back

look at this

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-81AJ4zUtp_0/T29qBqHceVI/AAAAAAAAC7Q/hZYczlOvCLM/s512/160120122334.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OUScd7ZHBLw/T29neYtwpMI/AAAAAAAAC58/HdCcIGOskjQ/s512/261220112063EVOLUTION.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/PQAAANjYPhLG9HgPGgT_0OE_0UOxqPKFB3JoKd2ikKHAOXu7CcYLmqyOqzF7tu7N60uhAQQCY-E7WT5hw8NSF5ApL74Am1T1UFzEtn3hxEffi5MLCWWL47x6EVW5.jpg)


Great liar, thats what he is.
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: Bevo on March 26, 2012, 05:47:26 AM
Hahahaha look at all that acne on his back ::)
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: mass243 on March 26, 2012, 05:57:39 AM

LOL

As natural as US college football teams  :-X
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: BigCyp on March 26, 2012, 06:37:12 AM
hahaha about as natural as frankensteins wife on IVF
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: asbrus on March 26, 2012, 10:35:55 AM
Hahahaha look at all that acne on his back ::)

ACNE ON THE BACK DOSEN'T ALWAYS MEAN ROID USE.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: gh15 on March 26, 2012, 05:49:29 PM
yes after knowing his status of height and weight ,, he been to eveyrthing beside insulina

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: TrueGrit on March 26, 2012, 05:54:58 PM
As natural as rimming your grandmother.
Title: Re: GH15, this guy is natural?
Post by: jude2 on March 26, 2012, 06:45:15 PM
ACNE ON THE BACK DOSEN'T ALWAYS MEAN ROID USE.
It looks like it does on that guy.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: deadpan on March 27, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
tell me oen thing i said above that is not the truth ....

i have used during my career 500 mg anadrola more than once,, i didnt recomedn it i recomended less..but i have used it before

i did inject with same neelde over 100 times yes over 100 times infact right now this moment im using a neelde probably the 40 time atleast same exact one ..washed ofcourse with alcohol and very clean

inregard to pyramid...no human could do it too complicated...it was guided by aliens and even if not agree it is very much possibility and everyone is open to it even among humans with very hard core science basis they also start to open to possibility of that ...you havent heard of it since you are  A CONVICT of a serious SERIOUS crime ,,you belong betwen prison walls..not much is learned there ...chekc out your chanel in americana msnbc on saturday locked up! this is you! you are a fucking CRIMINAL

then you got the mike oahren ...one of the most pussy fellas i have seen and TRAINED around when he train legs ,, we both trained same gymnasium ,, he coudnt even cary my water bottle ,, he wasnt a profesional because HE COULDNT BE ONE,, and i never said he coudnt do 315...i said you wont see him doing 4 plates each side of bar for good reps ,, he doenst need it and wont do it was alwys pussy when it came to legs ,, unles he changed since i trained there but fellas like this dont change ,,rememebr he claim nautural,,.

you need one look in the mirror tom to understand THE PROBLEM OF THE CULT ARE WANNA BE CONVICTED FELLONS LIKE YOU ,, and you wil see what happens to them soon enough ,, soon enough bud bud

gh15 approved

gh15 i read somewhere that needles are coated with something to insure smoother injection and that alcohol washes it off can you comment on this?
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: jude2 on March 27, 2012, 05:45:56 PM
gh15 i read somewhere that needles are coated with something to insure smoother injection and that alcohol washes it off can you comment on this?
He dosen't care his ass is numb for all the injections. I quess after all the years u get use to it.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: apply85 on March 27, 2012, 07:11:21 PM
gh15 i read somewhere that needles are coated with something to insure smoother injection and that alcohol washes it off can you comment on this?

lol
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: gh15 on March 27, 2012, 07:12:39 PM
gh15 i read somewhere that needles are coated with something to insure smoother injection and that alcohol washes it off can you comment on this?

when you are a profesional or top amatuer,, when you are bodybuild who done this thing for many years...your ass is imuned to needle toughness especialy if you know how to poke since you become a profesional injector...

many here have no clue to what im talking about ,,,the real bodybuikllders will tell you that im right,,

the problem is that the 10% gimick....is overwhelming the 90% serious bodbuilders...mainly its because the rela bodybuilders dont care to answer they have no time they need to build their bodys...

generaly speaking you can inject with same needle as long as clean close to 100 times if not more ,, im using same neelde right now i change between 3 needles...one used over 40 times already the others good 20-30 times each at the least!


used the sme 3 needles i think for 8 months straight now
gh15 approved
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: gh15 on March 27, 2012, 07:21:49 PM
He dosen't care his ass is numb for all the injections. I quess after all the years u get use to it.

THERE YOU GO!

bravo

someone who gets it!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: goomba420 on March 27, 2012, 08:14:53 PM

used the sme 3 needles i think for 8 months straight now
gh15 approved

you have got to be kidding me  ??? ??? ??? :-X
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: AbrahamG on March 27, 2012, 09:05:25 PM


- Discuss

Don't know how natural he is, but I'd like to swallow a pint of his yogurt.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: Thoth on March 27, 2012, 09:59:44 PM
I knew a guy once who wouldn't even use the same needle after it had drawn up said solution from a multi-dose vial.  He said the rubber stopper "dulled the needle".  So he would draw up with one needle, throw it away, then switch out a new needle for the actual injection.

I've never had a problem with injection's.  Sure, I was nervous my first time, but after that, smooth sailing.  As sick as this may sound, I'll say it anyway, sometimes when I'm siting around the house at night, I'll get the urge to inject because I'm so used to it.  It's like my body is calling for it or something, lol.
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: gh15 on March 27, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
you have got to be kidding me  ??? ??? ??? :-X

no very VERY serious,,

3 needle i had 4 but 1 i threw away since rubber went bad...3 needle ,, same ones used for last 8 months NONE STOP ,, ofcourse clean after use and before use with alcohol ,, worksperfect then again im a very very expericned profesional fella that know the dots on his body to the t to know where to inject inorder not to have tren caugh or not to hit a scar tissue,, im so good that i know where the exact scar tittues are located and their sizes ...its all in how experience you are,, also im very good injector ,, many just poke fast i poke SLOOOOW i know how to angle it right if need to be done ,, i know how to use old needle and make it feel pretty new,, it is from 1000s upon 1000s of injects during the years,, im also a very experienced injector to know what region of the body are best to inject and most forgiving,,

it takes life time of bodybuild and lots and lots of hands on 24 7 bodybuild,, when you do nothing else beside! bodybuild

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: gh15 on March 27, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
I knew a guy once who wouldn't even use the same needle after it had drawn up said solution from a multi-dose vial.  He said the rubber stopper "dulled the needle".  So he would draw up with one needle, throw it away, then switch out a new needle for the actual injection.

I've never had a problem with injection's.  Sure, I was nervous my first time, but after that, smooth sailing.  As sick as this may sound, I'll say it anyway, sometimes when I'm siting around the house at night, I'll get the urge to inject because I'm so used to it.  It's like my body is calling for it or something, lol.

all the rubber ,,litle particles ,, wont go through the neelde ,, EVER,, but still when rubber become bad...and may detouc from syrnge during pulling the plunger with oil inside syrnge...then you need to change the syrnge and the needle ...this is good time to do it ,,

generaly speaking i recomend new needles and syrnges period...but there is bodybuild and then THERE IS bodybuilder,, long time very experienced hands on bodybuilders are super duper profesionals in injections we are so good that we can inject anything through that needle,, we know how to apply the right force ,, and we know how slow of fast to push the plunger depend on type of hormones used ,, and we know what hormones is less forgiving for mistakes,, and we know what it feels like when bad sides comes before it comes... we feel it within a mili second and prepared or pull out the inject and avoid it ,, to be hands on bodybuild also involve lots of trial and errors from along the years,, bodybuild is chemical war...thebest bodybuilders are also the best injectors that pull through with minimal mistakes

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: the_swami on March 27, 2012, 10:58:13 PM
great natural backne lol

filthy liar!
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: the_swami on March 27, 2012, 11:24:57 PM


- Discuss

filth liar!!!

these liars disgust me.

look closely @ 37 to 39 second mark of the video- there are scars on both nipples  - the upper line of the top half circle of each nipple where he has had gyno surgery.
its very subtle but u can see it- a good plastic surgeon removed this steroid user's gyno

filth liar!
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: diamondcut on March 28, 2012, 01:32:00 AM
the real question is

why would anyone in that kind of industry who makes a living off of how good their body looks, be natural?

fucking idiots up in here.

this guy isn't a filth, he's being smart by being real about how he eats and trains and such, he just chooses to leave out the whole part about his supplementation plan. Why the fuck would he draw negative illegal attention to himself?

the part about him saying the whole thing about 10 packs and how people are born with a 4, 6, 8 pack is true too.


i also find it funny how he looks in the mirror like he wants to fuck himself in the ass.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: gh15 on March 28, 2012, 01:39:59 AM
the real question is

why would anyone in that kind of industry who makes a living off of how good their body looks, be natural?

fucking idiots up in here.

this guy isn't a filth, he's being smart by being real about how he eats and trains and such, he just chooses to leave out the whole part about his supplementation plan. Why the fuck would he draw negative illegal attention to himself?

the part about him saying the whole thing about 10 packs and how people are born with a 4, 6, 8 pack is true too.


i also find it funny how he looks in the mirror like he wants to fuck himself in the ass.

because....many goolible kidos now run to the store...well not now but before i came along ,, ran to the store and bought all the junk suplements of the hydroxy cuts to get be that low bodyfat and dry ...

its a scam going on for dozen upon dozen of years since most of us were in elementry and even before,,and it should stop! ,, it is nto the parents mision to pay for the bodybuid insdutry to survive,, kids shoudnt take balonie suplements that no one knows whats in it ,,,remember those are the products who grow you set of titonas ..not the actual hormones,,

a fella like ron heris made career ...built a family ! with a convict kid....from this lies ,, afella like ron heris a prostitute for the suplement industry .....CHEATED the bodybuild cult ,,true bodybuild from the right way ,, a fella liek ron heris deserve a verdict that is known to everyone and this verdict is coming !

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: diamondcut on March 28, 2012, 01:44:47 AM
because....many goolible kidos now run to the store...well not now but before i came along ,, ran to the store and bought all the junk suplements of the hydroxy cuts to get be that low bodyfat and dry ...

its a scam going on for dozen upon dozen of years since most of us were in elementry and even before,,and it should stop! ,, it is nto the parents mision to pay for the bodybuid insdutry to survive,, kids shoudnt take balonie suplements that no one knows whats in it ,,,remember those are the products who grow you set of titonas ..not the actual hormones,,

a fella like ron heris made career ...built a family ! with a convict kid....from this lies ,, afella like ron heris a prostitute for the suplement industry .....CHEATED the bodybuild cult ,,true bodybuild from the right way ,, a fella liek ron heris deserve a verdict that is known to everyone and this verdict is coming !

gh15 approved

i agree gh15, but it works out for the bodybuilder doesnt it...

people are always trying to get ahead in this world, and any kind of sponsorship will help pay for their addiction,

in the end i think it is up to the customer to exercise proper judgment, whether it be through trial and error

i do agree there are filts who CLAIMED natty but for ifbb pros who don't call themselves natural, there is nothing wrong with being sponsored by a muscletech and helping sell protein...pays the bills and for the hgh  :P

i agree with ron harris that guy is scum. if you read his latest posts on MD he doesn't claim natural anymore, he says he's on prescribed TRT. what a joke.

Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2012, 04:19:55 AM
whats your opinion on ECA god?
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: TrueGrit on March 28, 2012, 04:30:01 AM
filth liar!!!

these liars disgust me.

look closely @ 37 to 39 second mark of the video- there are scars on both nipples  - the upper line of the top half circle of each nipple where he has had gyno surgery.
its very subtle but u can see it- a good plastic surgeon removed this steroid user's gyno

filth liar!

It's amazing how many natties get gyno and have the removal scars.  ;D
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: gh15 on March 28, 2012, 04:39:40 AM
whats your opinion on ECA god?

my opinion is that you play with poop!,, my opinion is that you will always stay 140lb if you dotn go on trenbolona and testosterona combo lower dose testosterona high dose trenbolona ,, all the rest is not needed ,, you aree playing with poop
also get good gh

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: deadpan on March 28, 2012, 08:48:41 AM
It's amazing how many natties get gyno and have the removal scars.  ;D

i'm glad you think gyno only occurs from steroids. I guess all my drunk, fat, out of shape friends must be juiced up to the gills!  ::)
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: deadpan on March 28, 2012, 08:53:56 AM
my opinion is that you play with poop!,, my opinion is that you will always stay 140lb if you dotn go on trenbolona and testosterona combo lower dose testosterona high dose trenbolona ,, all the rest is not needed ,, you aree playing with poop
also get good gh

gh15 approved

gh15 in your "7 rules to build phenominal physiqe from gh15 house of pain" you said

"6. always use ephedrine when cutting,,always use eca when cutting,,alwyas eat less when cutting,,always eat majority of your food clean when cutting,,dont ever give up your dirty food completely when cutting because your body needs it eventhough you are cutting,,doesnt need it overdue but still need it once or twice a week,,your brain needs it!,,especially on hormones and fat burners,,you will never look your best if you completely eliminate carbs during diet phase,,you gotta have them to a limit,,and i dont talk here about no carb up phase before a show im talkin about carb intake during the all diet/prep,,if you keep it at 30grams a day for 4 months you will end up looking like SHIT and dont listen to what any one else tell you,,you need to know how to cycle carbs right! especially when cutting."

now you're saying diet doesnt matter, exercise doesn't matter just more trenbolona and ghona, and eca is poop. why do you flipflop on so many different occassions?
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 28, 2012, 09:00:12 AM
He could be natural.  What I hear on these posts are, he looks better than me so he must be juicing. He isn't that  big but ripped.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: TrueGrit on March 28, 2012, 10:37:52 AM
i'm glad you think gyno only occurs from steroids. I guess all my drunk, fat, out of shape friends must be juiced up to the gills!  ::)

Chest fat -aka 'moobs' - is not gyno.

And where did I say Gynecomastia 'only' occurs from steroids?
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: deadpan on March 28, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
Chest fat -aka 'moobs' - is not gyno.

And where did I say Gynecomastia 'only' occurs from steroids?

fair enough, you didn't say that but i assumed the implication was that the dude got gyno surgery so he must have used aas at some point. i'm just saying it's completely possible to have gyno and get surgery for it without having used aas, there's many different factors at play.

you're right that moobs aren't the same thing as gyno but they typically go hand in hand, feminine fat distribution patterns (like in the chest and hips) can hint at some kind of hormonal imbalance. most people i see with moobs usually have some degree of gyno, i see it alot in guys that drink heavy presumably bc of phytoestrogens

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia
according to this about 60% of men get gyno at some point in their lives
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: TruthHurts on March 28, 2012, 11:17:56 AM
Chest fat -aka 'moobs' - is not gyno.

And where did I say Gynecomastia 'only' occurs from steroids?

 This, so many dumb bb.com noobs that see a guy at 20% bodyfat and start screaming gyno at a bit of fat. Gyno is glandular tissue and mostly affects teenage boys and steroid users.

Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: TruthHurts on March 28, 2012, 11:20:09 AM
filth liar!!!

these liars disgust me.

look closely @ 37 to 39 second mark of the video- there are scars on both nipples  - the upper line of the top half circle of each nipple where he has had gyno surgery.
its very subtle but u can see it- a good plastic surgeon removed this steroid user's gyno

filth liar!

Another Pat Banana, Kyisho Moody, Tommy Jeffers,Adrain. Filt lair!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: deadpan on March 28, 2012, 12:22:34 PM
This, so many dumb bb.com noobs that see a guy at 20% bodyfat and start screaming gyno at a bit of fat. Gyno is glandular tissue and mostly affects teenage boys and steroid users.



"Puffy nipples" is among the most common forms of gynecomastia. This glandular tissue accumulation is concentrated under and typically confined to the areola, or can be slightly extended outside the areola forming a dome shaped appearance to the areola. Pure glandular gynecomastia is common in bodybuilders and is thought to be a result of the use of anabolic steroids.[7] In this case it is known as anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) induced gynecomastia.[7] Due to excess testosterone levels from steroids, which is converted to estrogen, bodybuilders and other athletes are sometimes afflicted with gynecomastia in its purest form. Gynecomastia in lean men is usually only a breast tissue gland with little to no adipose tissue. Proper treatment of pure gynecomastia can be done only by excision of the breast tissue, which in the case of bodybuilders is by itself sufficient to achieve a flat nipple-areola complex. Liposuction is only rarely necessary. Congenital or hereditary gynecomastia is typically evident by the ages of 12 to 18 in boys.[8] Thirty percent to sixty percent of young boys suffer from large male breasts.[8] As many as thirty percent may live with enlarged male breasts for the rest of their lives."

yup, i guess 1/3rd of the entire male population is on steroids....  ::)
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: ilalin on March 28, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
I knew a guy once who wouldn't even use the same needle after it had drawn up said solution from a multi-dose vial.  He said the rubber stopper "dulled the needle".  So he would draw up with one needle, throw it away, then switch out a new needle for the actual injection.

I've never had a problem with injection's.  Sure, I was nervous my first time, but after that, smooth sailing.  As sick as this may sound, I'll say it anyway, sometimes when I'm siting around the house at night, I'll get the urge to inject because I'm so used to it.  It's like my body is calling for it or something, lol.

The guy you mentioned is right. Not only that the stopper dulls the needle but there is always a risk of cross-contamination or infection if you don't change it before injection. This is what is taught in nursing and medical schools also.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: deadpan on March 28, 2012, 12:40:35 PM
The guy you mentioned is right. Not only that the stopper dulls the needle but there is always a risk of cross-contamination or infection if you don't change it before injection. This is what is taught in nursing and medical schools also.

this is true, i know plenty of guys (well on forums at least), that do this. also makes it easier to draw the oil, draw with a 22ga inject with 25 or something like that.

i personally have reused a 22ga on a few occassions and it was significantly more difficult to break the skin after a few uses.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: ilalin on March 28, 2012, 12:40:55 PM
i agree gh15, but it works out for the bodybuilder doesnt it...

people are always trying to get ahead in this world, and any kind of sponsorship will help pay for their addiction,

in the end i think it is up to the customer to exercise proper judgment, whether it be through trial and error

i do agree there are filts who CLAIMED natty but for ifbb pros who don't call themselves natural, there is nothing wrong with being sponsored by a muscletech and helping sell protein...pays the bills and for the hgh  :P

i agree with ron harris that guy is scum. if you read his latest posts on MD he doesn't claim natural anymore, he says he's on prescribed TRT. what a joke.



it's a sad excuse when people start lying for money...it should not be done, at least  not in this society
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: TruthHurts on March 28, 2012, 03:12:43 PM
Name:   deadpan
Posts:   61 (2.179 per day)
Position:   Getbig II
Date Registered:   February 29, 2012, 10:39:36 AM


STFU noob. Sit your 60 post ass down on the sidelines with the other betas and wait until you are at least half a person.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: deadpan on March 28, 2012, 03:17:15 PM
Name:   deadpan
Posts:   61 (2.179 per day)
Position:   Getbig II
Date Registered:   February 29, 2012, 10:39:36 AM


STFU noob. Sit your 60 post ass down on the sidelines with the other betas and wait until you are at least half a person.

oh fuck off with that shit you forum warrior, if you really gauge how much of a person you are by how many posts you have on an anonymous forum, then i truly feel sorry for you
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: TruthHurts on March 28, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
STFU gyno boy. You need to know your place calling out legends like gh15. you are nothing,, seriously fella,, nothing but plain newb dirt... you won't last the course so gtf back to bodybuild.com where the little boys belong,,, thunderdome not for YOU,,, mark these words,, thunderdome NOT for mouthy pipsqueak,,,
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Marty Champions on March 28, 2012, 03:24:53 PM
he's not super dry... just really lean... take a look at early 90s olympia shots to see 'dryness'.... no sane person goes there today

hes dry as fuck who u kidden, all the definition comes from water loss not dietin
Title: Re: Is this fella natty?
Post by: Marty Champions on March 28, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
thats a hell of a way to make a living..having your livelihood depend on your abs. it seems like he hates what he does and is starving

exactly and hes definitly on a diuretic
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: chunkramwell on March 28, 2012, 03:32:56 PM


- Discuss

With a name like Ben Noy I was expecting a chinese man. I guess cause it rhymes with Bok Choy.
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: deadpan on March 28, 2012, 09:39:51 PM
STFU gyno boy. You need to know your place calling out legends like gh15. you are nothing,, seriously fella,, nothing but plain newb dirt... you won't last the course so gtf back to bodybuild.com where the little boys belong,,, thunderdome not for YOU,,, mark these words,, thunderdome NOT for mouthy pipsqueak,,,

oh gee sorry i don't worship some online account and inject into my body whatever he tells me like some sort of mindless cult follow. i will listen to what he has to say but take it with a grain of salt, you know like any SANE PERSON.  ::)  hey man i hear cyanide-ona will give you dat striated look, why don't you go try it.

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/50532/1377792-ram2.jpg)

ohh man check out dat mad chest separation
Title: Re: Are these bodybuilders natural or not?
Post by: Jaime on March 29, 2012, 06:50:30 AM
He needs more mass, just looks skinny with decent lines and really lean.

Dieuretics, clen, ephedrine.

He would be stupid not to be on var, Winny, low tren.