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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: ChinoXL on March 30, 2012, 11:41:02 AM
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Need to know what you guys know on UFC testing and which drugs wld be best used for MMA. Thx guys. Was considering halo but saw the IOC can detect it up to 2 months. Also was considering masteron/prop/dbol at beginning. This is important guys so any feedback wld be greatly appreciated. Especially any info on UFC testing.
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im guessing test susp and tren susp
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im guessing test susp and tren susp
test suspension makes sense. thx for tht rec. does tren come in a suspension form or is acetate the quickest version? detection times?
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theres tren suspension out there if u have the right chef
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theres tren suspension out there if u have the right chef
detection time on the metabolites as compared to tren a?? thank you for the response btw
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personally, if i were to fight, depends on weightclass etc, tren susp, test susp, hgh and halo or tbol, maybe even winstrol, tho depends if it gives u joint problems
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im not 100% sure but with suspensions they have no ester attached so i do believe they are completely out of ur system in like 3 days correct me if iam wrong
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19-nors probably a real bad choice for beating blood tests. i know deca metabolites can be detected almost a year later even though nandro is a naturally produced hormone and since tren is made from nandro, i wouldn't be surprised if tren has a very long detection time as well.
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the reason it is in ur system so long (deca) is because it has a decoanate ester tho not because of the 19 -nor compound
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that's wrong
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evidence to back up ur claim wud be much appreciated then
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No tren a cause of cardio problems, halo tne hgh and npp would be mu choices if i were a fighter, maybe tren a if it doesn't effect your cardio that much but I've never met someone who's cardio is unaffected
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I wouldn't mess with tren. Stick to test susp and orals. Maybe masteron if you can get it out of your system in time.
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tren kills cardio so it obviously isn't a good choice for mma
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If you are a fighter, local level or world class, and you are a AAS user. You're a piece of shit straight up.
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You don't need juice for MMA, stick your skills brother! Train! Train! Train!!!!
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If you are a fighter, local level or world class, and you are a AAS user. You're a piece of shit straight up.
hmmmm, so around 90% off mma fighters are pieces of shit by your reaconing?
none of us on here no for 100% sure the detection times with modern testing, we can only make an educated guess
halo is one of the fasting acting drugs going, if that takes 2 weeks to clear i wouldnt imagine suspension being any different
so id use somthing like that until 2 weeks out... i dont know if any of the new ph stuff is tested for, you could switch to somthing like that for last 2 weeks
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If you are a fighter, local level or world class, and you are a AAS user. You're a piece of shit straight up.
lol.
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If you are a fighter, local level or world class, and you are a AAS user. You're a piece of shit straight up.
Really?
Care to elaborate as to why a "fighter" is any different from another athlete? Are you one of those guys that thinks AAS make an average fighter turn into Fedor? Surely not.
Cheating is cheating, doesn't matter what your personal feelings are. People get away with it in Tennis, golf, swimming...etc.
Chino - What kind of test is this? You do realize the easiest way around this is masking, which is very easy. I have competed at a high level and unless you are fighting in the UFC, i doubt you will have many issues. There really isn't a best cycle for MMA. There are many variables that come into play and it's not so cut and dry. Do some research on detection times. TNE and GH are widely used in the MMA world, but it is hard to find many fighters who are honest about their AAS usage.
Good luck!
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hmmmm, so around 90% off mma fighters are pieces of shit by your reaconing?
You got it
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Care to elaborate as to why a "fighter" is any different from another athlete? Are you one of those guys that thinks AAS make an average fighter turn into Fedor? Surely not.
First off fighting IS different. And yes cheating is cheating. But, in MMA and boxing when someone is using anabolic steroids in a sport where the goal is to hurt and be hurt lives are being put at risk-literally.
As far as the Fedor comment that was just a stupid question-which I assume was your point.
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First off fighting IS different. And yes cheating is cheating. But, in MMA and boxing when someone is using anabolic steroids in a sport where the goal is to hurt and be hurt lives are being put at risk-literally.
As far as the Fedor comment that was just a stupid question-which I assume was your point.
I'll just say i disagree 100% and leave it at that.
I've been training in boxing/MMA gyms for over 15 years and never seen or even heard of anything this ridiculous.
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I'll just say i disagree 100% and leave it at that.
I've been training in boxing/MMA gyms for over 15 years and never seen or even heard of anything this ridiculous.
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I'm not sure what you disagree with or what your point is. Are you saying that you are for cheating and that the health of fighters and their lives is inconsequential?
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Aas usage should not be considered cheating, everybody who you see competing var the upper eechelon of a sport is using steroids.
Let me ask you something, if you were going to perform in front of millions of people and make a career out of that wouldn't you do what is required?
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mma is probably the one sport that steroids make the least amount of difference, specially when there are weight limits for divisions and such.
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Aas usage should not be considered cheating, everybody who you see competing var the upper eechelon of a sport is using steroids.
Let me ask you something, if you were going to perform in front of millions of people and make a career out of that wouldn't you do what is required?
Funny
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mma is probably the one sport that steroids make the least amount of difference, specially when there are weight limits for divisions and such.
Very funny
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Very funny
how is carrying around an extra 40 pounds of water weight going to help anyone be a better mma fighter rather than gas out quicker? fighting is mostly skill and cardio, fedor is a perfect example
a street fight is completely different, if you are basing your opinion off street fighting.
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how is carrying around an extra 40 pounds of water weight going to help anyone be a better mma fighter rather than gas out quicker? fighting is mostly skill and cardio, fedor is a perfect example
a street fight is completely different, if you are basing your opinion off street fighting.
That makes that Overwhatever guy's post look Shakespearean.
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Skill, Tactics and Strategy, Speed, Stamina, Detemination, will, experiance, are all much more important than muscel size and brute strength, this is not the same as most other sports. There are allot of skinny or out of shape looking dudes that do well due to skills!. Just look at Chuck Lidel! Hit the mat and skip the Juice!
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Chuck was juicing too. Don't fool yourself.
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If you are a fighter, local level or world class, and you are a AAS user. You're a piece of shit straight up.
Joyce Gracie - a admitted user - got busted once. Others busted http://www.cagepotato.com/mma-steroid-busts-definitive-timeline/
Shamrock brothers - pretty obvious ain't it
There are many more examples.
Now they are all pretending that they need HRT. Good excuse.
It's only fair, that everyone's on a level playing field. Nothing wrong with that. Without it's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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thank you for all replies....even the thread hijacking ones by the naive guys. the whole point of asking is detection times specifically for the ufc. if u can redirect ur responses with that in mind please throw your 2 cents in.
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bueller?
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combat athletes do do juice, specially at high levels, just like any other sport, but in MMA/boxing, guys juice to recover from daily injuries or recovering from intense training and the toll it takes on your body, crazy strenght isnt a factor in MMA or boxing, most important is cardio, technique and explosiveness, who cares how much u can bench or deadlift, it has nothing to do with fighting, as a matter of fact it can really hinder your abilities as a fighter, just look at 5times world strongest man, marius, horrible fighter
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combat athletes do do juice, specially at high levels, just like any other sport, but in MMA/boxing, guys juice to recover from daily injuries or recovering from intense training and the toll it takes on your body, crazy strenght isnt a factor in MMA or boxing, most important is cardio, technique and explosiveness, who cares how much u can bench or deadlift, it has nothing to do with fighting, as a matter of fact it can really hinder your abilities as a fighter, just look at 5times world strongest man, marius, horrible fighter
Well stated brother!