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Title: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: diamondcut on April 02, 2012, 04:13:11 AM
After having a package sitting in customs for longer than a day or several, should the package be ditched?

If it ever comes should it be denied and the receiver should not acknowledge possession of the package?

Should one start worrying about any doorbells and search warrants that may be coming? At what point should one clean house?


Thank you
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 02, 2012, 10:00:03 AM

After having a package sitting in customs for longer than a day or several, should the package be ditched?


How would you know that it is sitting in customs?
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: Kervin on April 02, 2012, 12:44:04 PM
i had once a package getting thru customs 3x and being there over a week arrived at home no problem, though if they seize it you get a letter saying it got seized
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: volcnnxn on April 02, 2012, 01:02:13 PM
After having a package sitting in customs for longer than a day or several, should the package be ditched?


How would you know that it is sitting in customs?

Tracking.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: diamondcut on April 02, 2012, 02:25:13 PM
trippin balls here
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 02, 2012, 02:32:37 PM
shit can sit in customs for a week, and the status will show it is in customs yet end up at your door.  Just watch out for the black vans and helicopters when the doorbell rings.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: aesthetics on April 02, 2012, 02:34:19 PM
more than a week, 2 weeks it's probably gone and anyone delivering things would probably be suspicious. but i've heard of people getting gear after a package has sat in customs for a month, which is extremely rare and i don't know why anyone would accept that kinda package.

holidays are exceptions as packages can sit in customs forever, some times they legitimately get lost or postal workers steal them.   
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: lyquid on April 02, 2012, 02:42:25 PM
Had packages sit for a day to a month max. On average It's about a week sometimes to a few days. But one sat there a month guy was gonna re send but it came through....
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: diamondcut on April 02, 2012, 11:37:04 PM
Had packages sit for a day to a month max. On average It's about a week sometimes to a few days. But one sat there a month guy was gonna re send but it came through....

you ever get a pack seized?
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: pvttucker on April 03, 2012, 06:27:23 PM
I have had one seized. Got a letter about 2 weeks after it was handed over to customs. Had it reshipped, it's been at customs for a week now... Getting discouraged
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: lyquid on April 03, 2012, 09:10:26 PM
you ever get a pack seized?

Nope lol. And I've ordered. Many many times like most do.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 06, 2012, 09:12:03 AM
5 days in Customs for my package, seems like a long time... getting nervous!!!
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: getswole25 on April 07, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
This whole thread has no releavance if place of port isnt mentioned. Basically chicago and san fran kiss it good bye
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 07, 2012, 11:53:04 AM
Place of Port LA
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: pvttucker on April 07, 2012, 03:56:37 PM
I have had one seized. Got a letter about 2 weeks after it was handed over to customs. Had it reshipped, it's been at customs for a week now... Getting discouraged

This is in Chicago btw.. Ive gotten about 5 ships through successfully til now. suuuuucks
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: Rearden Metal on April 07, 2012, 06:14:25 PM
Guys you need to accept that a seizure may happen anytime and it's the cost of business. Use suppliers that resend with seizure. Build a rapport so they will help you when it happens.

I've had packs in customs for over 10 days and then they arrive. Often tracking is unreliable. 
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 07, 2012, 08:05:14 PM
I am Ok with loosing a package or having it resent.

I'm only courious of the risk involved?

How much follow up is done if they open it and find gear?

If its in custom for 2 weeks and then USPS shows up should I sign or just refuse it?

If its resent after being seized is it too risky to except more gear at same addy?

What precautions should I take for a re-ship


Sorry guy's, I know this is redundent but it's a first for me to have gear stuck in customs
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: randy841 on April 07, 2012, 11:43:02 PM
Happened not so long ago - soon as i saw status via the tracking number, it was a lost cause - and treat it as such. No reason to cry over spilled milk.

I got suspicious after it didn't come in the allotted time. Even without checking tracking status, i knew what was up. And not worth the risk over a few thousands dollars lost once customs black marks it. Even if they want you to pick it up, avoid it like the Bubonic plague
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: diamondcut on April 07, 2012, 11:56:09 PM
thanks fellas

i know what i need to do now
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 08, 2012, 11:40:18 AM
If an address is flagged by Customs does that effect domestic orders coming same address from domestic sources? Lets say you ordered 3 packages, the international is stuck in customs and the othe 2 are domestic.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: muscle19 on April 08, 2012, 11:59:39 AM
no cause domestic you avoid customs so no addy is checked...I wouldnt send to that same addy is you have had a pack snagged before so safety reasons, use an alternative addy
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: muscle19 on April 08, 2012, 12:00:47 PM
chi town is a bitch lol i have had only one get through when it goes through chi town, why is that?? they surely cant snag every pack so why does it seem they get caught more there? san fran have had only one issue but multi packs have got through there
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 08, 2012, 12:21:26 PM
no cause domestic you avoid customs so no addy is checked...I wouldnt send to that same addy is you have had a pack snagged before so safety reasons, use an alternative addy


So are you saying use different addy for international but still safe for domestic at same addy?
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: muscle19 on April 08, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
ya, if youve had a pack snagged international, dont use that addy again cause its flagged...now you can use that same addy for domestic causde youre avoiding customs, so you dont have anything to worry about
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: aesthetics on April 08, 2012, 01:36:40 PM
This whole thread has no releavance if place of port isnt mentioned. Basically chicago and san fran kiss it good bye

what's special about chicago? doesn't mail go through JFK new york to get to chicago? same as most other on the east coast?
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: diamondcut on April 08, 2012, 08:18:19 PM
i'm thinking a po box would be a good place to pick up some packages for int'l mail orders sub 1k

now that the current addy is no longer valid, i can always ditch the pack if things get a bit strange and switch po boxes at different offices whenever i want

anyone care to shed some light on po boxes?

thanks bros
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 09, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
I don't have a PO but I know you need to provide propper ID to get one. So, I suppose it's an easy way to change your addy, but you'll still have to sign for the package. I've heard that they just put a slip in your box to advise you a package is avail. and you must sign for it.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: getswole25 on April 09, 2012, 08:07:08 AM
what's special about chicago? doesn't mail go through JFK new york to get to chicago? same as most other on the east coast?

NO certain zips go to jfk first while others go to chi town first and them others go to san fran first.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: getswole25 on April 09, 2012, 08:11:07 AM
If you live in addy 4 and above just order your stuff domestic. Who cares about it cost a little more. Def keeps your hair from getting grey. Most sources have a domestic option sometimes you just have to ask
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 09, 2012, 10:04:45 AM
Customs don't always send letters.  It might just sit there for good until the tracking # no longer works.  That has happened to a lot of people last summer.

Best thing to do is clean house and never order int'l to that address again.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 09, 2012, 10:19:44 AM
Wouldn't you think cleaning the house is extreme if the package never arrives? They would need a reason for a warrent, If you don't except because the name on package is not yours?
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: aesthetics on April 09, 2012, 10:27:02 AM
depends on how big the pack is and depends where you live. east coast = less concern.

they generally won't do a controlled delivery for hgh unless it's very large, but you never know and it depends on a lot of factors because some times police will pursue even the smallest orders, $300 worth of roids, just because of "whatever" reason, it happens (very rarely).
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 09, 2012, 10:34:13 AM
Wouldn't you think cleaning the house is extreme if the package never arrives? They would need a reason for a warrent, If you don't except because the name on package is not yours?

Not really.  Would you rather clean house to take a chance?

And  a warrant is not necessarily needed to get you.  To come in your house, yes, but you don't have to decline the package in order for them to get you.  They can leave it at the door.  Once you take it inside, boom.  That is acceptance.  If you walk it to your car in the guise of going back to the P.O. to return it, that is acceptance as well since you have in your possession.

If anyone remembers the old source Elephant from Tampa, they got him by showing up and trying a controlled delivery.  He stepped out the house and told them he wasn't expecting anything and that he was refusing it.  They said ok, to sign this receipt declining it and they would return it to sender.  They put the receipt on top of the pack and handed it to him with a pen (so he could use the pack to bear down on when he signed it) before he even put pen to paper, they laid him out right then. 
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: randy841 on April 09, 2012, 12:50:04 PM
If the police have quotas to meet. No one is off limits whether you order $250 or $2000 worth of gear. Similar to traffic cops, they get perks i.e. time off, added vacation time, etc.

Furthermore, overzealous cops can do a number on anyone.
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: nitomax on April 09, 2012, 03:37:12 PM
If the police have quotas to meet. No one is off limits whether you order $250 or $2000 worth of gear. Similar to traffic cops, they get perks i.e. time off, added vacation time, etc.




LOL! that's total BS
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: muscle19 on April 09, 2012, 07:00:36 PM
99% they arent going to do a controlled delivery if pack gets snagged from customs, ow if they have fkagged you addy before and this is many packs snagged then maybe
Title: Re: After how long in customs should a package be considered a loss?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 10, 2012, 06:36:03 AM
I don't have a PO but I know you need to provide propper ID to get one. So, I suppose it's an easy way to change your addy, but you'll still have to sign for the package. I've heard that they just put a slip in your box to advise you a package is avail. and you must sign for it.

Some places like Mailboxes ETC, UPS Store, etc.. they will sign for the pack and leave you a slip in the box which you sign to acknowledge you received it. 

This is not anonymous.  You have to have two pieces of gov't ID to open a box.  And they will have your home addy and all your other info as well.  So if LE wanted to bust you they would petition the court for a warrant against the mailbox place to turn over the info and then once the pack is picked up, simply arrive at your place with a warrant.

All you have to do is just touch the pack to be charged with possession.  There have been cases here (non AAS related, but for things like people ordering pot seeds or narcs in the mail) they simply place the pack face down on your doorstep early in the morning.  You walk out not suspecting anything and don't know what the pack is because it is face down and you can't see the addy, you turn it over and the po-pos jump out then.