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Title: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: thehbomb on April 24, 2012, 03:38:40 PM
What I mean is, if say u only take testosterone propinate and u are gonna be tested. If u quit soon enough (within three weeks) it won't be detected but what if you cruise on a low enough amount that u were within normal male production ranges wouldnt ur testosterone to epitestosterone ratio be in normal range and thus u could very well pass any type of steroids test while in fact taking testosterone. Also I hear a hair test for steroids can detect anything within last 90 days. I know it would catch metabolites from other steroids derivatives like deca, eq, tren, but what about test...something our bodies have in them all the time.
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: Arnold jr on April 24, 2012, 03:52:57 PM
If you're in a 6:1 ratio, Testosterone:Epitestosterone, you should be fine...it's the ratio surpassing 6:1 that gets you into trouble....4:1 in some cases, but this depends on who's doing the testing and 6:1 is normally the standard.

Anyway, even though it's synthetic testosterone, it's just testosterone and your body does not make a distinguishing difference between naturally produced and exogenously provided.

All of that said, keep in mind it wouldn't take a large dose of Testosterone-Propionate to throw your ratio out of line. As for hair follicle testing, I'm not aware of testosterone related hair follicle testing...if someone else is they'll have to chime in on that one.
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: hematocritter on April 24, 2012, 04:51:37 PM
The metabolites are detectable in hair, but I don't know how long. For most drugs, they are detectable longer in hair than in urine.

The safest bet is testosterone suspension, no metabolites at all so all you have to worry about is T/E ratio.
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: thehbomb on April 24, 2012, 05:39:41 PM
What about tne?
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: a_pupil on April 25, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
What I mean is, if say u only take testosterone propinate and u are gonna be tested. If u quit soon enough (within three weeks) it won't be detected but what if you cruise on a low enough amount that u were within normal male production ranges wouldnt ur testosterone to epitestosterone ratio be in normal range and thus u could very well pass any type of steroids test while in fact taking testosterone. Also I hear a hair test for steroids can detect anything within last 90 days. I know it would catch metabolites from other steroids derivatives like deca, eq, tren, but what about test...something our bodies have in them all the time.

Hows it going Alastair?  ;D
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: thehbomb on April 25, 2012, 12:33:52 PM
^^^^lol nice ;D
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: Texastriceps on April 26, 2012, 08:09:18 AM
What is TNE I keep hearing about it?  Yes it can be detected bc your T:E ratio will be out of whack.  I get tested and I compete.  But u can go to a longevity clinic and get a script and then augment with your PED dosages.  It costs a little but ur ass is covered.  In fact I find it harder to find good quality consitent "black market" than it was to get a legit script.
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: hematocritter on April 26, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
What about tne?
test no ester = test suspension.

I suppose a true suspension is test base in water, so when they make it in oil, they just call it TNE.
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: aesthetics on April 26, 2012, 01:06:37 PM
What about tne?

i've heard people beating tests 3 days after dropping suspension
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: randy841 on April 26, 2012, 11:12:58 PM
Don't throw caution to the wind if one is being tested, learn about masking agents. The newer and more sensitive technologies can look for metabolites - not normally targeted with the standard testing from years back. We will start finding out in two months with the start of Olympics.
Title: Re: is test detectable on any steroid test if levels and t:e ratios are in range
Post by: NewDawn on April 30, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
TNE in oil is generally referred to test base. TNE in water is test suspension.