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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: bigmc on May 14, 2012, 08:39:03 AM
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gh15 is heavily promoting kigs on his website and pushing a certain supplier
after all the shit he spewed here
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Do you live under a rock? :P
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haha tards.
So you are reading there and coming here to cry?
I come here for years but have to say the last months topics remain almost unchanged and I cant seem to find any interesting new posts. I hope it changes. On there lots of new stuff happening and possibilities opening.
WHat is he pushing, tell me? Kigs?
I am on kigs before I heard of them from GH since last year and went since.
They were excellent, then got scammed, then got ok replacement and now getting new kigs any day.
Source he is pushing? You talking about Private? One of the best chefs around and confirmed by dozens of people?
I sure hope private gets onboard so normal people will also have access to good stuff.
What do you mean when you say the best chef around? Its not like someone can set up a clandestine lab and just start making HGH. This will not happen. It's the reason why, when people claimed that a certain line of Canadian GH was actually made in Canada it also ended up being Chinese. Kigs are Chinese generic growth. It is not HG nor Pharma grade HGH. This is fact. The new kigs are getting good reviews, but their not that great compared to US Pharma grade GH. How can they be that good when their shipped from China, and not even shipped with cold packs? ask yourselves these questions people.
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FIrst off, I NEVER said its pharm grade. Read and see.
Second: I was not comparing them to pharm-grade. That would be not fair as they are not the same price. Pharm grade is much more expensive. They can still be good though.
Third: Why could something coming from China automatically not be good? No reason for that at all.
So whats going on here? Why are you going from one board to the other to rant about what people say? Does it make you feel better that you have the money to buy pharm grade and most dont?
What is it?
Kigtropin last year was beast. I was transforming in days. DAYS. I want to see how the new kigs will perform and if they dont I will buy some other good chinese GH like Thanks and novos and rips
I never said that you personally claimed kigs are pharma grade HGH. Your buddies however were on here calling them pharma grade. I am just being clear with the members of GB.
What are you talking about? What other board am I ranting on? Transforming in days is complete BS, anyone who has used real pharma GH knows that the change can take 6 months or longer. GH is not an over night drug like AAS. Where does all this BS come from? Maybe I am not understanding what you mean by the transforming in days, so maybe you can explain this.
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I'm not sure what board your talking about and what did I report. I'm just referring to what I read right here on GB.
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kigtropin is just generic chinese HGH. It is nothing special!It was never better then huumatrope or serostim all sales tactics. I would be very careful buying it. If some of you really want to try it just buy one kit maybe two and see how they treat you. there has been to much controversy over these kigtropin kits. I personally would stick with the more trusted generics. But If you want to give them a go buy just 1-2 kits. certain batches of kigtropin have hospatalized people. There never was any batch of kigtropin that were double dosed all that is rumor and used by someone to push the kits. I'll keep my own opinions to myself. If I said what I really felt about kigtropin this would turn into a 30page thread.
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i always stuck to novo's from you know who since the first kigs dilemma i got screwed on. then got crappy blue top reships also.
then kami sent me a kit of the new kigs to try.. and they are very good, gives you a leaner look / thins the skin faster than novos. ive never used pharm grade so that is irrelevant. the point is its good from kami as of now .
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Are you not willing to read or unable?
I never claimed its better then PharmGrade.
But it is very good! And dont forget pharmgrade is a lot more expensive, so that counts as well. Most people canot buy expensive pharm GH.
I am very honest and always say what I think. They were good, then bunk, now hopefully goo again.
So STOP comparing them to pharm GH. They are not the same price and should not be compared.
Meaning is something is not pharmgrade it can still be VERY good. Very good! I did rips for 9months and they were VERY good! Did good batch Kigs at 10-15IU ED for weeks with some prop and tren ace and people were looking at me like god came down heavens. Supermen, John Cena and others were yelled across the street and girls took pics on the street every day.
I dont see why and how pharm grade and and chinese generic are in the same sentence.
Give me money and I will buy pharmgrade any old day of the week. If not then good generics will have to do
I am not saing you said they were pharm grade but certain guys tring to push the shit out of kigtropin you all know who claimed theyy were pharm grade and better then humatrope wich is the best HGH hands down and serostim. never said you called it pharm grade but I am saying the guys pushing it claimed it was pharm grade.
I think it is priceless that Gh15 claims 2 of us mods had agendas when it boils down to it GH15 had the biggest agenda. Some of us have info that you guys do not have. Also you guys don't think it is shadey kami reshipped a inferior product? He was suppose to reship everybody NQK(November quality Kigs) the ones that were double dosed and were better then humatrope and serostim. that statement was made by big time HGH users-LOL. Probably guys who never even tried humatrope. Lets get everybodys age straight I am 30 yrs old and have been messing around with gear and HGH for 6 years. plus 1 year of pure research before I started using them.
6 years is a pretty long time! and I have seen it all! whoevver is buying kigtropin just take it easy! never but to much just 1-2 kits. It is clandestine chinese HGH they can sell it no matter what the quality is. maybe that bunk batch they got sold shit raws and decided to sell them anyway no FDA can stand in the way just keep that in mind. Use guys who have been in the HGH game longer and have always come through with good product. Everybody knows who they should be using just to be sure they are getting HGH and not some low grade bunk HGH. Kami hit a nice scam so he will be ok for a little bit he probably needed some start -up cash and now he has it some we possibly could see some consistency just remember what he had to do to get to that level and who didn't have to do WHAT KAMI DID. I am mainly soeaking of the bait and switch reships. I hate to crash your guys party with some real bad info about these new kigs so I will not say anything else. lets just say it is nothing special.
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You guys are the epitome of what is wrong with internet message boards and the rumors that get spread worst than AIDS in Haiti.
Kami never once, NEVER ONCE said these were pharma grade. That is GH15 that made those claims. What Kami does admit why these kigs are better than the others is not because the GH is superior, but the fact is you actually get 10IU out of 10IU of GH in a vial where some of the blues and others are all over the map.
That is why he says these are good quality because you are getting the full amount. It doesn't mean that the 10IU are Filet Mignon compared to Chuck Roast.
Don't bash on Kami for making false claims. He didn't. GH15 and his crew of dwarfs make these claims.
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All I know is I got ONE kit EVER of the good kigs just before the whole controversy and the stuff was AWESOME. Way better than novo's. But I will not order from kami because of what happened...I'm still tempted to order 2-3 kits to test them out but I dunno
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GH15 404 not found :o
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GH15 404 not found :o
It's been on and off quite a bit lately, updating the site or some shit.
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Why do you care whats going on on another board? Maybe people love it, maybe people are pushing Kigs there big time. Why do you go read there and come back here and report?
And YES! I was changing daily. I was allready lean and 15Iu of Kigs a day and I was changing like a racecar every day!
You're on 15ius a day, BA? You son of a bitch LOL!! You lean already like your avi? Just wondering what changes you see if you're already shred. Running tren too?
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This is why I compare generics to Pharma, because you all are fooled into believing you are getting 10 IUs per vial or 100 per kit. This is not the case when dealing with generics. There are less IUs per kit, when not using pharma grade HGH. Why is this so hard to understand. Kigs do not have 10 IUs of hgh per vial. Not even the originals.
I'm done with the kig debate. I tried to educate you guys, but it's impossible to educate those unwilling to be educated.
BUSTINASS, as far as your comment of changing daily from HGH, it is either due to fat loss, or water retention. When I hear people talk about changes from HGH I am usually thinking lean mass, so I will agree that one can change daily if their retaining water and losing fat.
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This is why I compare generics to Pharma, because you all are fooled into believing you are getting 10 IUs per vial or 100 per kit. This is not the case when dealing with generics. There are less IUs per kit, when not using pharma grade HGH. Why is this so hard to understand. Kigs do not have 10 IUs of hgh per vial. Not even the originals.
I'm done with the kig debate. I tried to educate you guys, but it's impossible to educate those unwilling to be educated.
BUSTINASS, as far as your comment of changing daily from HGH, it is either due to fat loss, or water retention. When I hear people talk about changes from HGH I am usually thinking lean mass, so I will agree that one can change daily if their retaining water and losing fat.
Word on the street is there is about 4-5ius in the kigs. I would guess that would be in line with most generics. You seem to be a guy who favors going the pharma route. If you can afford it, more power to you. You have an opinion on generics, which are any good?
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Word on the street is there is about 4-5ius in the kigs. I would guess that would be in line with most generics. You seem to be a guy who favors going the pharma route. If you can afford it, more power to you. You have an opinion on generics, which are any good?
I really have no agendas. When it comes to sources stick with the tried and true. There are some who have been around forever with flawless service and product. That is all I will say on this subject.
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You make all these claims and you don't know who has the best GH? There is no swimming in a sea of Chinese generics. There are tried and true sources period. Sources who have never sold garbage. More expensive than kigs, but not much more. Kigs are cheap for a reason. You get what you pay for.
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That who NoMoreLies is?
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Gender female,lol...New female on this forum and bonus has an agenda too...
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Gender female,lol...New female on this forum and bonus has an agenda too...
If you knew who you were talking about you would be quiet and listen.
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the author of this thread is a moron
hope this helps
have a nice day and good luck
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the author of this thread is a moron
hope this helps
have a nice day and good luck
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the author of this thread is a moron
hope this helps
have a nice day and good luck
hahahahah ;D lmao ...
nice
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I know something most dont. Its very important. But I am not telling...!
Sorry, but most do know. The tried and true HGH sources are no secret. BTW the first time I mentioned one of these sources I would be accused of repping, remailing, etc. I know how getbiggers work. No sources will be mentioned.
Let me ask you BustinAss, would you use test that you knew for a fact was under dosed? If Test enanthate was advertised @ 250mg/ml but you knew for a fact it was only 95mg/ml would you come on here telling people how good the test is? These are drugs that should always be dosed properly. People wonder why they have the bad sides they get with some hormones, but really have no idea what they are putting in their bodies.
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Agenda: You seem to have and are operating on different information then I or most others here. Your claims are based on that ommited information. Therefore share the information and your claims will gain validity. If not these claims will remain without any validity and therefore useless.
Kami: Kami is a big time scammer praying on little poor GH fanatics. He scammed the lot of us and fucked people over by reshipping a completely different and unasked for product of inferior quality. Doing this over a peroid of months and therefore prolonging the period of hurting. Definition of a scam this is (Yes I talk like Yoda sometimes!).
Humatrope vs. Generic: Give me funds and I will never take generic in my life again. That goes I think for 100% of the people. So comparing them is out of the question and anyone who is doing that is in my eyes at least very questionable. Yes generics can be very good and some are, but Pharm Grade is just too expensive to toy around with. But a comparison is not the right thing.
NQK Info: True information is never bad except for those who deal in self-deception. I do not and most do not so if you have some valid information on Kigs or any other compound you feel we dont know yet, PLS share it with the rest of us. That is the reason we all come here. To go ahead.
lets just say I wouldn't buy them and kami should be shot!
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Here is another question to some of you. who here thinks Gh15 gets royalty's for pushing kigtropin? do you guys really think Gh15 is a Pro? some people are real gullible. If you really read his posts why would somebody push kigtropin everday for 2 months? and make claims it is double dosed? and claims one of his elfs could tell it was the best HGH in hours after injection? I can read through his BS. I hope some of you can really go back and read all his posts and look at what a pusher the guy is. I bet the house he does not use kigtropin. I don't even think the guy uses steroids. he might have some good knowledge but that does not mean anything when it comes to the quality of kigtropin. If I said some people wound up in the hospital after using kigtropin that would just fuel a fire and have alot of haters doubting me when I know it is true. The stuff is crap!
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exactly,, this is logic,, think and use it
WW when was last time you had a vacation? and I mean complete vocation w/o Internet access... think about it
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Lol at deleting apply85 posts,, what a mental case this pace became :D
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Lol at deleting apply85 posts,, what a mental case this pace became :D
Him and a few others are no longer welcome here.
If you kids can't follow the simple rules of the forum i will be more than happy to delete all of your posts as well.
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Here is another question to some of you. who here thinks Gh15 gets royalty's for pushing kigtropin? do you guys really think Gh15 is a Pro? some people are real gullible. If you really read his posts why would somebody push kigtropin everday for 2 months? and make claims it is double dosed? and claims one of his elfs could tell it was the best HGH in hours after injection? I can read through his BS. I hope some of you can really go back and read all his posts and look at what a pusher the guy is. I bet the house he does not use kigtropin. I don't even think the guy uses steroids. he might have some good knowledge but that does not mean anything when it comes to the quality of kigtropin. If I said some people wound up in the hospital after using kigtropin that would just fuel a fire and have alot of haters doubting me when I know it is true. The stuff is crap!
It is not a secret that GH15 gets freebies. he even posted the email from the source stating they will give him 5 kits a month if he tries them and vouches for them.
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It is not a secret that GH15 gets freebies. he even posted the email from the source stating they will give him 5 kits a month if he tries them and vouches for them.
So what? Even if it's true? For all the great things that he has done for the cummunity he deserves much much more... yet he doesn't forget and talks about thanktropin, novorropin, and Riptropin too.. yes there is more attention thrown towards kigs (NQK) since they are believed to be better.. so do the math and go with whatever you feel comfortable with it's not that hard to do...
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What are you talking about man?
yes I WOULD use underdosed shit if it was so much cheaper, like the difference between pharm grade and generic GH.
I use what I can, not what I would like to.
I will give you my account number to transfer 6months worth of pharm grade GH to. THEN I will use GH.
UNTIL then I will continue using what I can and that is generic GH and UGL AAS.
Pretty simple. Thats shit still works like a charm! Makes you a beast others fall to their knees on!
I think were getting off track here. I am not saying do not use the kigs, or UG gear. I am saying you shouldn't tell people how great they are when you really have nothing to compare them to. GH works, it is a very powerful drug. A little goes a long way, and that is why you see results. Do a little more home work, and I think you might find something that works better. The cost is relevant to what you are getting. Cheap HGH = little hormone, every time.
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I definitelly do not agree fully on this. I have used UGL AAS and the shit was as good as pharm grade and a hell of a lot cheaper.
As for GH: WHen you pay for me pharm grade I will use it and make a comparison. Until then I will continue saying Kigs or any other GH is the best GH I ver had. That shit really is genetics in a bottle! Simple as that!
Pharm grade AAS is normally cheaper than UG, and the so called Pharma gear is faked 50% or more of the time. Real Iranian amps can be bought in packs of 10 for ten bucks. HG gear is cheap as dirt when purchased from the right source. There is a certain very large source out there right now offering 100 amps HG gear for $250.00. That is cheap as hell when you consider its basically $25.00 per 10ml, when most UG test e goes for $40.00 or more. It is a huge misconception that HG gear is expensive. I have been around a minute bro, what I am telling you is truth, believe it or not.
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Lol at deleting apply85 posts,, what a mental case this pace became :D
actually, lol at gh15 and his elves for banning me and not approving my registration for that site... i sent apply85 the info.. and the funny thing is i didnt even heave a beef with thse guys, i just come here and speak my opinion, irregardless of any agenda...
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exactly,, this is logic,, think and use it
WW when was last time you had a vacation? and I mean complete vocation w/o Internet access... think about it
After raw deal I didn't post for 2 years.maybe a post every few months but I was pretty much off the boards.I am a mod I have to watch this section and keep yoou all in check! make sure people know the truth about kigtropin and the trash pushing these kits. If I had to scoop to using kigs that would mean I was broke and I would quit using till I had a better job and made enough to buy serostim or humatrope. My view is if you cannot afford to use real USA grade HGH dont use it! and that was a brilliant comment by no more lies would you guys by steroids you knes were over half the label claim? I wouldnt
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It is not a secret that GH15 gets freebies. he even posted the email from the source stating they will give him 5 kits a month if he tries them and vouches for them.
I dont like how he changed his views on kigtropin so fast! GH15 himself said they were crap! Then these supposive new batch of kigs comes around and he gets offered a kickback as did bboy annd bigher and all of a sudden he is trying to push them again. GH15 created a mess last time. He sat on this board for 2 months and praised them daily! people take Gh15 seriously and it created a mess! a million dollar scam. kami is laughin his ass to the bank just like GH15 is. they dont use kigtropin! They just push it on you guys who cannot afford real huuman rade USA HGH. You guys are just custys to them. yoou arre the market! annd they are taking advantgae of you!So what do you do in this situation but another generic is an option or get a better job and buy human grade. Kigtropin is not the only generic. rips are out there novos,thanks. If I had to I would take those over kigs. think about how much money kami owes some of you guys! he screwed some of you!And some of you guys justt take it on the face and smile!I would be emailing him asking for these new kigs if they are so great or better yet my money back. I have bitched to a source before and got my money back. just be real with them llet them know you are not happy.
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This is the most unrealistic and dumb point of view I have heard in possibly ever.
Only Pharm or gtfo?
You must be hallucinating man! People use what they CAN not what they WANT!
I know personally a IFBB pro (Not top pro but done the Ironman couple times) and he confirms using mostly generics as his use is way higher then his budget for pharm grade.
Real pros use USA HGH and USA anabolics if they dont they are not that big in the game.Use what you want but if you are hurting for cash that bad and unless you have a for sure chance you are going pro, I would save my dough! Nobody is going pro off of underdosed gear! maybe if they used alot of pharma grade gear before they used some generics but if a person starts using underdosed HGH and shitty UGL gear their whole life they wont go anywhere in the sport! all the Big Pros use human grade gear or compound pharmacy grade gear and HGH. Like signatuRx in florida that is what most of the pro athletes used gear made out of a compounding pharmacy and evebn that wasn't cheap. If you want results you have to pay the price. Kigs are nasty! who knows what kind of side effects you will have later in life. most chinese generics have so much asty filler.
Here is a bet go IV some kigtropin and see how you feel. with human grade you will feel fine lets see how you feel when you IV some kigtropin. I want to see someone get one of these kigtropin kits broken done and see if it is really 191AA HGH. Why buy it from kami? at least support somebody tthat has nnot done something extremely shadey! Kami is a fraud! I won't respect kami until he reships everybody he robbed NQK as he promised. Not blue tops or thaitropin that is not what they paid for! GH 15 is somewhat a scammer he stood up for a scammer and gave him a second chance. GH15 talked shit about kami then after he cutt a deal with him he changed his mind! Gh15,BBoy and Bigher all get free kigs.
hell Bigher comes here and post a picture and names what he is on and makes it very clear kami has a new batch of kigs. he was trying to sell using his physique! who knows what all he was on! he might not even of been on kigs Plus he is running 3 grams of gear probably using thanks just opimping a product for free HGH. he gets it for free fro kami otherwise why try to get him sales. I don't care it's not my money if you guys want to buy kigtropin from a scammer go ahead. he might not be a scammer now! But he was selling bunk HGH and he knew it!
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100% untrue and lie! 100%
I used rips and Kigs and they changed my body like nothing ever has. Sure Pharm grade should be better but I dont care about that because I dont have the dough for it.
But dont come and say its only pharm grade and all generics are shit and worthless. Thats a pure lie! 100%
Little tren ace and prop and 10IU kigs and I was a walking steeve reeeves on the beach. Girls wanting and begging to take a picture with me and people asking if I was doing some photoshoot or something!
YES, pharm grade is better but who cares if you cant pay for it.
What you are doing is going to a car forum and just repeating that if you aint got a 600k Lambo you shouldnt even bother with another car.
WTF man!
How can you say 100% lie? The man you refer to as God was here for years preaching HG gear, and nothing but HG gear makes a pro BB. Now that he has opened up a steroid board he is promoting UG gear and generic HGH.
You have admittedly never used any other GH. How can you say this. "like nothing ever has"
You may want to educate your self on the dangers of generic HGH, and what happens with antibodies due to impurities in shitty GH. Not saying kigs have this problem, but educate your self.
Isn't this every getbigger?
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gh15 is now offering 25k for info on white widow
guess the income from the kigs scam was good
and he is claiming that kigs are pharma grade
all the little twinks calling me for telling the truth about gh15 anytime you want that discussion face to face pm me
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Can you pls show us EVIDENCE for any connection between GH15 and Kigs? Strong claims require strong evidence.
All things being equal I think it is fair if you accuse ANYONE of anything to provide evidence. If not then the claims you or anyone (yes, including me too!) are worthless and cast a shwadow of doubt on your motives of inital accusations.
To be fair, is it not true that GH15 has been VEY vocal in declaring Kigtropin a NO-GO zone when he realized they were bunk? He buried Kami in every thread and said Kigs were OFF his list of approved generics.
Its seems now Kigs have come back in a good light BUT not only to GH15 but many other independent and by most trustworthy people. Many now say the NQL's are good to go and of very good quality. I myself will start with them in few days and will be able to addmy own experience with them. The old Kigs sure were good is all I know.
come on mate are you that naive
i appreciate gh15 is courting you for mod
i am done arguing on this look on a certain website "god of hormones approved" end of discussion
that you would support someone that is trying to destroy one of the mods on here with his 25k ficticious offer tells me all i need to know
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gh15 is now offering 25k for info on white widow
guess the income from the kigs scam was good
and he is claiming that kigs are pharma grade
all the little twinks calling me for telling the truth about gh15 anytime you want that discussion face to face pm me
Why dont you post over their pussy? You obviously have a gimmick handle and run back and forth over here to tell everyone what's going on over there.
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I'm done with this.
You guys have beat this horse to death.
The proof is all over his hidden boards.
Anything related to this nonsense will be removed from this moment forward.
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lets just say I wouldn't buy them and kami should be shot!
bam told you guys!
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Here is another question to some of you. who here thinks Gh15 gets royalty's for pushing kigtropin? do you guys really think Gh15 is a Pro? some people are real gullible. If you really read his posts why would somebody push kigtropin everday for 2 months? and make claims it is double dosed? and claims one of his elfs could tell it was the best HGH in hours after injection? I can read through his BS. I hope some of you can really go back and read all his posts and look at what a pusher the guy is. I bet the house he does not use kigtropin. I don't even think the guy uses steroids. he might have some good knowledge but that does not mean anything when it comes to the quality of kigtropin. If I said some people wound up in the hospital after using kigtropin that would just fuel a fire and have alot of haters doubting me when I know it is true. The stuff is crap!
Bam! told you guys stuff is crap! like I said ! all these guys getting placebo effects!