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He just vanished months ago......think he died ?
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He goest by the name Dana Linn Baily now
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He goest by the name Dana Linn Baily now
he must have upped the tren dose
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he got fat like johnny fallcan now hes trying to develop a new persona to fit his new fatness
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Deadly pole dancing accident, too much oil, not enough sack coverage.
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wc
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drug problem
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Business trip, and very busy eliminating assholes from his stab list.
He`ll be back.
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terrible blow jobbing, i mean drying, accident. he'll be back
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Suicide from nobody laughing at his clever but unfunny jokes.
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He is a good kid. I hope he comes back.
"1"
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Only 3 things could have happened: Death, Rehab, or posting under a gimmick.
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he got herpes on his midget penis nose, got sick from not treating it right way, then kept picking the scab and lost his whole face.
he wont recover
salt bath of peace
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Ya where the hell is that queer. I actually miss him (no homo)
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I'm pretty sure there is a 'quilt' in DC with his name on it by now. ...
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Suicide from nobody laughing at his clever but unfunny jokes.
This, plus the meltdown from Brads WYHI threads.
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perished in a tragic schmoe squatting accident
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What drug was Johnny known for abusing?
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perished in a tragic schmoe squatting accident
:D
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drug problem
Thought he got a handle on it?
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killed himself out of envy of Zyzz
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Alot of old timers have left this place like Kiwiol some good posters not sure why.
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Alot of old timers have left this place like Kiwiol some good posters not sure why.
that's a better question, where is kiwiol?
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What drug was Johnny known for abusing?
opiates.
worst of the worst, once those fuckers get their hooks in you....you are their bitch. and i speak from experience....hardest thing I ever did in my life BY FAR. was permanently kicking pills
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opiates.
worst of the worst, once those fuckers get their hooks in you....you are their bitch. and i speak from experience....hardest thing I ever did in my life BY FAR. was permanently kicking pills
Yup. Its not a matter of just quitting... Heroin is the worst thing in existence.
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He started a DEVO tribute band and has been busy touring
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Yup. Its not a matter of just quitting... Heroin is the worst thing in existence.
Yeah. because it's not just a matter of the WD's which are a fucking nightmare that i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. then you just feel like shit for months on end. no fucking energy, nothing floats your boat. And you know, the whole time...happiness and feeling like a million bucks is just a phone call away
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Yup. Its not a matter of just quitting... Heroin is the worst thing in existence.
My friend was smoking heorin for some time.. Quitted it with no probs (a week of bad mood, some sweating..), tho' I sometimes find him very strangely buzzed recently... It does not seem like alcohol, or it's alcohol mixed with some pills, idk, when a person sounds very lethargic and slow, out of touch with reality, smth like that.. I'm wondering whether he still occasionally enjoys that chase of the dragon.. Tho' isn't it supposed to be far less adicting compared to IV use if that shit?
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that's a better question, where is kiwiol?
He said he was going away for awhile he didnt tell me why. Alot of old timers dropping off here something be up.
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My friend was smoking heorin for some time.. Quitted it with no probs (a week of bad mood, some sweating..), tho' I sometimes find him very strangely buzzed recently... It does not seem like alcohol, or it's alcohol mixed with some pills, idk, when a person sounds very lethargic and slow, out of touch with reality, smth like that.. I'm wondering whether he still occasionally enjoys that chase of the dragon.. Tho' isn't it supposed to be far less adicting compared to IV use if that shit?
sounds like he might, although i have zero knowledge of this person.
It's diffrent for everyone. You said your friend had some sweats and felt crappy for a week, that's not a bad detox. I have heard nightmare stories where people have to be hospitalized.
Mine was somewhere in the middle...i felt like absolute DEATH for two weeks. diarrhea, convulsions, insomnia...your emotions go fucking haywire, you cry at commercials on TV. it passes...but then you just feel "off" for a long long time. That's the real test, getting through those few months. than you are OK.
I fell off a roof and severely fucked myself up, and the doctors loaded me up with them for over a year, that's how i got hooked. i didn't know what a percoset was before then.
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He started a DEVO tribute band and has been busy touring
:D Step on a crack, break your mama's back.
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sounds like he might, although i have zero knowledge of this person.
It's diffrent for everyone. You said your friend had some sweats and felt crappy for a week, that's not a bad detox. I have heard nightmare stories where people have to be hospitalized.
Mine was somewhere in the middle...i felt like absolute DEATH for two weeks. diarrhea, convulsions, insomnia...your emotions go fucking haywire, you cry at commercials on TV. it passes...but then you just feel "off" for a long long time. That's the real test, getting through those few months. than you are OK.
I fell off a roof and severely fucked myself up, and the doctors loaded me up with them for over a year, that's how i got hooked. i didn't know what a percoset was before then.
I was an IV user, my worst Heroin withdrawal lasted about a month, the acute sweating, vomiting, shitting yourself only lasted about 2 weeks, but the lethargy, exhaustion, depression, and lack of sleep took up the rest of the time.
I went on Suboxen afterward I went through the withdrawals to help keep me sober, and let me tell you, the withdrawals werent as intense, but they lasted 2x as long. Dont ever listen to the doctor on stuff like this, they simply dont understand. They tried to tell me that Suboxen would have no WD's because it wasnt a full agonist, which is horseshit.
I agree with you Groink, its not the acute WD's that are tough (they suck physically yes, but mentally its much easier than what comes next) - its the exhaustion, lack of sleep, emotional mood swings and shit that is the test, because like you said, youre only a phone call away from feeling better. Even if its only for a couple hours.
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mass 04 also missing in action.
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sounds like he might, although i have zero knowledge of this person.
It's diffrent for everyone. You said your friend had some sweats and felt crappy for a week, that's not a bad detox. I have heard nightmare stories where people have to be hospitalized.
Mine was somewhere in the middle...i felt like absolute DEATH for two weeks. diarrhea, convulsions, insomnia...your emotions go fucking haywire, you cry at commercials on TV. it passes...but then you just feel "off" for a long long time. That's the real test, getting through those few months. than you are OK.
I fell off a roof and severely fucked myself up, and the doctors loaded me up with them for over a year, that's how i got hooked. i didn't know what a percoset was before then.
it pisses me off that most doctors are really employees of the big pharma labs, its all a huge scheme, i bet more than 50% of drugs prescribed are totally unecessary.
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mass 04 also missing in action.
Both Sox fans. Too embarrassed.
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BAM BAm, sorry to say but I almost agree with you completely.
I sort of work with 'druggies' and have enough experience and time in grade to raise your "50" to "80" or possibly even more.
I can't blame the physicians entirely because most drug users I know get prescriptions from legit sources while they are cleaned up and going straight ..... but within an hour of leaving the drug store, they are upstairs calling friends regarding drug trades.
Are doctors really this stupid?
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JNN you funny as HAIL man!!!
come back!!
One time he said tbombz had swallowed so much black sperm he was slowly turning into Patrick Ewing....hahahahhaaaaaha hahahhahahaha
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I left my password in my will, so if I ever parish suddenly somebody will return to tell the story of my fate. Not that anybody would care :(
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JohnnyNoName is working behind the counter at the Velvet Touch in Mt. Morris, Michigan and waiting tables at the Clio Big Boy on his days off.
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He was going by his other username, luka magnotta and I believe he's recently been locked up for sodomizing a dead Asian boy
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If that's true, it's terrible. I hope JNN recovers quickly.
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He said he was going away for awhile he didnt tell me why. Alot of old timers dropping off here something be up.
maybe going over to Special Ed's board???......
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Naw man he had some demons...
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I was an IV user, my worst Heroin withdrawal lasted about a month, the acute sweating, vomiting, shitting yourself only lasted about 2 weeks, but the lethargy, exhaustion, depression, and lack of sleep took up the rest of the time.
I went on Suboxen afterward I went through the withdrawals to help keep me sober, and let me tell you, the withdrawals werent as intense, but they lasted 2x as long. Dont ever listen to the doctor on stuff like this, they simply dont understand. They tried to tell me that Suboxen would have no WD's because it wasnt a full agonist, which is horseshit.
I agree with you Groink, its not the acute WD's that are tough (they suck physically yes, but mentally its much easier than what comes next) - its the exhaustion, lack of sleep, emotional mood swings and shit that is the test, because like you said, youre only a phone call away from feeling better. Even if its only for a couple hours.
Shitting yourself???....Jesus..I always wondered what withdrawal from heroin feels like.........give us a typical day of withdrawal from morning to night....I admire the fact that you quit....must have been a fucking bitch!
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Shitting yourself???....Jesus..I always wondered what withdrawal from heroin feels like.........give us a typical day of withdrawal from morning to night....I admire the fact that you quit....must have been a fucking bitch!
watch trainspotting.
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I was an IV user, my worst Heroin withdrawal lasted about a month, the acute sweating, vomiting, shitting yourself only lasted about 2 weeks, but the lethargy, exhaustion, depression, and lack of sleep took up the rest of the time.
I went on Suboxen afterward I went through the withdrawals to help keep me sober, and let me tell you, the withdrawals werent as intense, but they lasted 2x as long. Dont ever listen to the doctor on stuff like this, they simply dont understand. They tried to tell me that Suboxen would have no WD's because it wasnt a full agonist, which is horseshit.
I agree with you Groink, its not the acute WD's that are tough (they suck physically yes, but mentally its much easier than what comes next) - its the exhaustion, lack of sleep, emotional mood swings and shit that is the test, because like you said, youre only a phone call away from feeling better. Even if its only for a couple hours.
so you clean now?
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I was an IV user, my worst Heroin withdrawal lasted about a month, the acute sweating, vomiting, shitting yourself only lasted about 2 weeks, but the lethargy, exhaustion, depression, and lack of sleep took up the rest of the time.
You didn't get clonidine ?
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He said he was going away for awhile he didnt tell me why. Alot of old timers dropping off here something be up.
Kiwiol is on a business trip in Uganda, promoting his line of chest high track suit pants.
He'll be back soon.
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Johnny was making a fresh produce delivery to The Fruit Bowl when he was accosted and gang raped in the cool room by 17 of the kitchen staff. They are currently hospitalized with severe exhaustion and are receiving an antibiotic drip.
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so you clean now?
Yes, for quite some time.
Dr. Dutch -
I did it on my own, at home. Clonodine never seemed to help me all that much. I had an extremely high tolerance.
Andre -
It was basically a week of alternating between extreme chills and hot flashes, and cold sweats, feeling like your skin is on fire or coursing with electricity, diarrhea, vomiting, and inability to sleep. Oh, and one minute you'll be crying at stupid emotional shit on tv, the next minute you may be laughing hysterically, the next you may feel nothing.
Every few hours the symptoms would get much worse, then they'd slack off for a little bit, then worse, back and forth like a yoyo.
Over time the ups and downs would get less extreme and they'd start to level out, until you just feel like shit instead of like completely hammered shit.
The sleep deprivation was the worst, because there was no reprieve and no time to recover, I maybe got 1 hour of sleep a night, and it wasnt really sleep. This lasted for 5-7 days, then I started sleeping around 4 hours a night. That lasted from weeks to months (depending on how long and what opiates I had been using) until I started working out again.
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good for you man 8)
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Yes, for quite some time.
Dr. Dutch -
I did it on my own, at home. Clonodine never seemed to help me all that much. I had an extremely high tolerance.
Andre -
It was basically a week of alternating between extreme chills and hot flashes, and cold sweats, feeling like your skin is on fire or coursing with electricity, diarrhea, vomiting, and inability to sleep. Oh, and one minute you'll be crying at stupid emotional shit on tv, the next minute you may be laughing hysterically, the next you may feel nothing.
Every few hours the symptoms would get much worse, then they'd slack off for a little bit, then worse, back and forth like a yoyo.
Over time the ups and downs would get less extreme and they'd start to level out, until you just feel like shit instead of like completely hammered shit.
The sleep deprivation was the worst, because there was no reprieve and no time to recover, I maybe got 1 hour of sleep a night, and it wasnt really sleep. This lasted for 5-7 days, then I started sleeping around 4 hours a night. That lasted from weeks to months (depending on how long and what opiates I had been using) until I started working out again.
Sounds like hell. Welcome back Method.
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I was given a script for like two weeks worth of pain killers. Safe to say a bottle was suppose to last a week, and I had one gone in 2.5 days. I would sit there with a timer in my hands waiting to take the next pill. I never refilled for the second week. It didn't take the pain away, it just was just something to do. That shit is for the devil.
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that's a better question, where is kiwiol?
Kiwi taken a few months out, had a busy time but will be back very shortly.
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Do you still have craving moments, Shockwave ?
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For those of you ex addicts, how could you possibly even begin to use that stuff in the first place when it is well known what it does to you?
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COME BACK JOHNNY,JUST COME BACK!!
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Do you still have craving moments, Shockwave ?
All the time, but the longer im sober, the less frequent they occur. For me, its just a matter of reminding myself I cant partake, as it would destroy my life. Especially now with a child on the way, its 100x more important to me to stay sober.
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Thats a loaded question. Everyone is different. Its not like I woke up one day and decided to use Heroin or Meth, it was a progression, especially seeing as how I never would even so much as smoke pot when I was younger.
I started when I was playing in a band, when I started drinking heavily. Im an addict - plain and simple. No emotional problems, no shitty family life. As soon as I discovered how much I could change my mental state - it kicked off my addiction. Then it was "Well i wonder how this would make me feel". The curiosity overrode my normal judgement, and as soon as I did it a few times, It was over.
Drinking every weekend turned into drinking and doing coke every weekend, then turned into just coke, then turned into meth, turned into IV use, turned into Heroin. If you had asked me if I could see myself slamming heroin in the begining, I would have told you that you were insane and I would never touch the stuff.
Its a slippery slope and no one is safe from it. I've seen arguments that some people are genetically pre-disposed to addiction, and I whole heartedly believe it. Some of my friends could snort a couple lines and be done - I couldnt. I couldnt stop until I ran out of money.
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JNN started his own website. gh 15. org
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Props to you Shockwave and Groink. I'm an opiate addict myself, been sober for almost 3yrs now. I used soboxone to clean up but even that has it's drawbacks. You never think you are gonna get addicted, that's for weak people. And for awhile I could do it here and there, then it just keeps building up. Next thing you know if I didnt have my oxys I wouldnt leave the house. They just appealed to me so much because I could snort one and be social, chatting people up, etc and no one would know the better. I have a little bit of social anxiety so it was the perfect drug
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I'm not sure if anyone's spoken to him since, but he was around a Howard Stern message board 2 - 3 months back. He might just be taking a break.
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Yes, for quite some time.
Dr. Dutch -
I did it on my own, at home. Clonodine never seemed to help me all that much. I had an extremely high tolerance.
Andre -
It was basically a week of alternating between extreme chills and hot flashes, and cold sweats, feeling like your skin is on fire or coursing with electricity, diarrhea, vomiting, and inability to sleep. Oh, and one minute you'll be crying at stupid emotional shit on tv, the next minute you may be laughing hysterically, the next you may feel nothing.
Every few hours the symptoms would get much worse, then they'd slack off for a little bit, then worse, back and forth like a yoyo.
Over time the ups and downs would get less extreme and they'd start to level out, until you just feel like shit instead of like completely hammered shit.
The sleep deprivation was the worst, because there was no reprieve and no time to recover, I maybe got 1 hour of sleep a night, and it wasnt really sleep. This lasted for 5-7 days, then I started sleeping around 4 hours a night. That lasted from weeks to months (depending on how long and what opiates I had been using) until I started working out again.
Congrats brother,it`s never an easy thing to get clean and sober............it took me forever until it finally stuck.
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And there's always that sudden "life event": family member dies isuddenly, wife leaves you, you lose your job.....I've had patients who were 25 yrs sober, and were back to shit within weeks or even days.
It's a chronic disease.
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And there's always that sudden "life event": family member dies isuddenly, wife leaves you, you lose your job.....I've had patients who were 25 yrs sober, and were back to shit within weeks or even days.
It's a chronic disease.
Correct. The moment someone thinks they beat it, it will kick you in the balls and suddenly youre right back into it.
I have to constantly be on my guard, I cant ever become complacent about it, otherwise those thoughts start coming back.
It's never ending, and it seems like however long youre sober, as soon as you pick it up again, youre right where you left off.
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Props to you Shockwave and Groink. I'm an opiate addict myself, been sober for almost 3yrs now. I used soboxone to clean up but even that has it's drawbacks. You never think you are gonna get addicted, that's for weak people. And for awhile I could do it here and there, then it just keeps building up. Next thing you know if I didnt have my oxys I wouldnt leave the house. They just appealed to me so much because I could snort one and be social, chatting people up, etc and no one would know the better. I have a little bit of social anxiety so it was the perfect drug
That a big misconception with opiates, people think they are like a downer and you lay in the corner drooling.
It's the exact opposite for me, they gave me unbridled energy and i was in a fantastic mood 24/7...I was up for anything.
it's funny because when i read all of these "how to pick up women" threads, i say to myself "snort a couple of percs and you'll be fine, talking up a blue streak to the hottest girl in the place"
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No emotional problems, no shitty family life. As soon as I discovered how much I could change my mental state - it kicked off my addiction. Then it was "Well i wonder how this would make me feel". The curiosity overrode my normal judgement, and as soon as I did it a few times, It was over.
Most of the addicts i've known over the years were just like this. Normal people who just got carried away and the next thing you know they are in deep trouble. I've lost a few friends to drugs and i used to use as well, but i never got carried away with it. I won't even drink more than a few beers once a month if that. Addiction runs in my family and my brother is a recovering alcoholic. It took 3 DWI's and jail time for him to even realize he had a problem. He passed out on the side of the road and woke up in the back of a cop car, he told me he was just really tired and it had nothing to do with drinking. He was living in denile for many years.
Seen a lot of good people get fucked up on pills. Even in the professional Architecture and Engineering field you see a lot of successful people use drugs. It's crazy once you see how rampant it really is in this country.
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Few years ago the bathrooms of the members of the European Parliament in Brussels and Strassburg were tested for traces of illegal substances. They found shockingly high amounts of cocaine, amfetamines and even heroin.....even retested because they thought the test results were wrong.
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I have an on an off relationship with nicotine...is heroin next?
...stay tuned.
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JOKO HOMO by DEVO
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I have an on an off relationship with nicotine...is heroin next?
...stay tuned.
Well, Psycho, these two substances are considered the most addictive in the world....
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He just vanished months ago......think he died ?
i thought he changed his name to salvatore. ;D
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Few years ago the bathrooms of the members of the European Parliament in Brussels and Strassburg were tested for traces of illegal substances. They found shockingly high amounts of cocaine, amfetamines and even heroin.....even retested because they thought the test results were wrong.
Meh half the population goes through a drug phase it's pretty much a cliche but it's part of our modern life.
The problem is the media, and how they just imagine extremes, because that's how society wants to view it. Even addicts like to believe it's cut and dry it makes life simpler.
The reality is the bulk of the population is recovering or becoming an addict. That really desperate stage for most people is rather short in comparison.
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That a big misconception with opiates, people think they are like a downer and you lay in the corner drooling.
It's the exact opposite for me, they gave me unbridled energy and i was in a fantastic mood 24/7...I was up for anything.
it's funny because when i read all of these "how to pick up women" threads, i say to myself "snort a couple of percs and you'll be fine, talking up a blue streak to the hottest girl in the place"
That sounds intense... what made you realise you had to stop?
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That sounds intense... what made you realise you had to stop?
not sure if serious, but....
My conscience...that's the most honest answer i can give. i wasn't ME anymore. and one day i just said "fuck this' and stopped cold turkey. that was many years ago and i haven't even seen a pill since that day
and for me...it wasn't the uphill battle to stay high all the time like it is for 90% of pill-heads. i had a crooked doctor who gave me whatever I wanted, and let me bring in other people for scrips as well, and i would take 30% right off the top of theirs. He wound up doing three years, and i was waiting for a knock on the door for six months after he got busted. never came thank God...You people want to know STRESS ?, stress is thinking you might be getting locked up....you are sick to your stomach 24/7 with worry.
I never ran low, or ran out..i actually had more pills than i knew what to do with. which in retrospect was the worse possible thing, because i never had that struggle, and had to question whether it was worth all the bullshit and shady deals to get high. I would wake up, rip back a few percs, put a shitload in my pocket and go about my day. every day, for years. I would give them away to chicks, sell them...whatever.
Not trying to brag, point is i never had to face those days, where you are getting sick, you have no pills, no money and you are fucked. because those are the "epiphany" days when a lot of people decide to clean up. and i never had a reason to want to. i just felt it was time, i was too old for that shit and it had been going on too long.
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not sure if serious, but....
My conscience...that's the most honest answer i can give. i wasn't ME anymore. and one day i just said "fuck this' and stopped cold turkey. that was many years ago and i haven't even seen a pill since that day
and for me...it wasn't the uphill battle to stay high all the time like it is for 90% of pill-heads. i had a crooked doctor who gave me whatever I wanted, and let me bring in other people for scrips as well, and i would take 30% right off the top of theirs. He wound up doing three years, and i was waiting for a knock on the door for six months after he got busted. never came thank God...You people want to know STRESS ?, stress is thinking you might be getting locked up....you are sick to your stomach 24/7 with worry.
I never ran low, or ran out..i actually had more pills than i knew what to do with. which in retrospect was the worse possible thing, because i never had that struggle, and had to question whether it was worth all the bullshit and shady deals to get high. I would wake up, rip back a few percs, put a shitload in my pocket and go about my day. every day, for years. I would give them away to chicks, sell them...whatever.
Not trying to brag, point is i never had to face those days, where you are getting sick, you have no pills, no money and you are fucked. because those are the "epiphany" days when a lot of people decide to clean up. and i never had a reason to want to. i just felt it was time, i was too old for that shit and it had been going on too long.
Yeah... one of two things happen in that situation. They either have that epiphany, or they turn to crime or other ways to get drugs. Im thankful my conscience prevented me from going down that path, but I saw plenty of the guys I used to score from go to jail because they were stealing and pawning shit, or ripping each other off, etc.
I could never do that shit, it just wasnt who I was... But I was also lucky that most of my hookups liked me because I was honest and looked out for them, so I got well more than I payed for and I was never in a situation where I simply COULDNT get anything.
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That a big misconception with opiates, people think they are like a downer and you lay in the corner drooling.
It's the exact opposite for me, they gave me unbridled energy and i was in a fantastic mood 24/7...I was up for anything.
it's funny because when i read all of these "how to pick up women" threads, i say to myself "snort a couple of percs and you'll be fine, talking up a blue streak to the hottest girl in the place"
hahaha so true! for people like me drugs are quite helpful...
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hahaha so true! for people like me drugs are quite helpful...
just don't snort percs...go oxys instead.... no acetaminophen.
I'm ashamed for knowing this :-\
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not sure if serious, but....
My conscience...that's the most honest answer i can give. i wasn't ME anymore. and one day i just said "fuck this' and stopped cold turkey. that was many years ago and i haven't even seen a pill since that day
and for me...it wasn't the uphill battle to stay high all the time like it is for 90% of pill-heads. i had a crooked doctor who gave me whatever I wanted, and let me bring in other people for scrips as well, and i would take 30% right off the top of theirs. He wound up doing three years, and i was waiting for a knock on the door for six months after he got busted. never came thank God...You people want to know STRESS ?, stress is thinking you might be getting locked up....you are sick to your stomach 24/7 with worry.
I never ran low, or ran out..i actually had more pills than i knew what to do with. which in retrospect was the worse possible thing, because i never had that struggle, and had to question whether it was worth all the bullshit and shady deals to get high. I would wake up, rip back a few percs, put a shitload in my pocket and go about my day. every day, for years. I would give them away to chicks, sell them...whatever.
Not trying to brag, point is i never had to face those days, where you are getting sick, you have no pills, no money and you are fucked. because those are the "epiphany" days when a lot of people decide to clean up. and i never had a reason to want to. i just felt it was time, i was too old for that shit and it had been going on too long.
Have your liver enzymes rebounded?
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johnnynoname
was tired of
being someone
elses bitch
he created a
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and lives among
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Have your liver enzymes rebounded?
I'm as healthy as a horse. that was a long time ago. body snaps back quick when you take care of it.
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just don't snort percs...go oxys instead.... no acetaminophen.
I'm ashamed for knowing this :-\
Im just curious man. Why is aceto bad here?
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Im just curious man. Why is aceto bad here?
I snorted percs because i could get 400 of them a month for next to nothing with legit scrips. they worked just fine. the aceto just burns a little, you still get a kick in the head snorting a perc. i didn't like oxys....to dopey, put me to sleep
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Groink
five years
aint that long
ago
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Groink
five years
aint that long
ago
it is to me
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I snorted percs because i could get 400 of them a month for next to nothing with legit scrips. they worked just fine. the aceto just burns a little, you still get a kick in the head snorting a perc. i didn't like oxys....to dopey, put me to sleep
Interesting stuff man.
Much respect for kicking the addiction. Many aren't that strong/lucky
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kudos
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you guys got me thinking, started taking test one year ago non stop. its not only about the muscle, thing is I never had a down day since I started it, I dont know if I will ever be able to stop it, never felt my mind so strong! I guess Im finally addicted to something?
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you guys got me thinking, started taking test one year ago non stop. its not only about the muscle, thing is I never had a down day since I started it, I dont know if I will ever be able to stop it, never felt my mind so strong! I guess Im finally addicted to something?
On test for life in your twenties. No thanks.
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On test for life in your twenties. No thanks.
never felt so mentally strong in my whole life. And its not like you get reckless, but the hardest blow wont make you feel insecure for a single second. 400mg of depo a week, never been so productive at work, not a single day i wont wake up with a hard on. And oh may be a coincidence but I always would get the flu once a year, but last winter has passed and I got nada.
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I snorted percs because i could get 400 of them a month for next to nothing with legit scrips. they worked just fine. the aceto just burns a little, you still get a kick in the head snorting a perc. i didn't like oxys....to dopey, put me to sleep
What you said about you not being yourself hits home big time. I remember being off them for the first couple weeks afer quiting and being overwhelmed with emotions. The pills had knumbed me to everything. On them I couldn't be sad angry etc. Oxys were my thing. Three 80s a day and I would work like an animal, I was ultra-functional. But it's all fake because once the pills are gone reality sets in. Evil evil drug
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Yes, for quite some time.
Dr. Dutch -
I did it on my own, at home. Clonodine never seemed to help me all that much. I had an extremely high tolerance.
Andre -
It was basically a week of alternating between extreme chills and hot flashes, and cold sweats, feeling like your skin is on fire or coursing with electricity, diarrhea, vomiting, and inability to sleep. Oh, and one minute you'll be crying at stupid emotional shit on tv, the next minute you may be laughing hysterically, the next you may feel nothing.
Every few hours the symptoms would get much worse, then they'd slack off for a little bit, then worse, back and forth like a yoyo.
Over time the ups and downs would get less extreme and they'd start to level out, until you just feel like shit instead of like completely hammered shit.
The sleep deprivation was the worst, because there was no reprieve and no time to recover, I maybe got 1 hour of sleep a night, and it wasnt really sleep. This lasted for 5-7 days, then I started sleeping around 4 hours a night. That lasted from weeks to months (depending on how long and what opiates I had been using) until I started working out again.
wow..much respect to you for quitting....sounds like a living hell....how you making out now??....do you still get the urge to use?..or are you totally over it?
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wow..much respect to you for quitting....sounds like a living hell....how you making out now??....do you still get the urge to use?..or are you totally over it?
X2 - the more I read these threads the more it sets in that living completely sober of nearly all drugs and living in at least strict moderation with other vices seems to be the ultimate goal to shoot for if one can. The above post you quoted seems like a horrible way to live.
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X2 - the more I read these threads the more it sets in that living completely sober of nearly all drugs and living in at least strict moderation with other vices seems to be the ultimate goal to shoot for if one can. The above post you quoted seems like a horrible way to live.
agreed...tough life to live
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Im just curious man. Why is aceto bad here?
Hospitals are filled with people with fcked up livers because of aceto abuse.
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Interesting stuff man.
Much respect for kicking the addiction. Many aren't that strong/lucky
x2
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Glad I stick to booze.
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Im just curious man. Why is aceto bad here?
The most common percs around are usually the white ones with 5 mg of oxycodone with 325mgs of acetaminophen. They're HUGE tabs and it's a lot of crap to have to snort. The oxycontins are tiny and don't have any other chemical along with oxycodone...probably just a little filler and the time release coating. I think the percs only go up to 10mg in oxycodone(and always acetaminophen mixed) at the most whereas the oxys I used to be able to get 80s..that is a LOT!.
I think they even go up to 160mgs tabs but I never came across them...
The dopey feeling groink mentions, thats a good way to describe it...lol. I didn't like percs cause of the acetaminophen since I used to like mixing that shit with alcohol (liver toxic to the tenth power) ...nearly stopped my heart a couple of times though lol
Withdrawls are a bitch...opiate, benzos and alcohol are the absolute worst to come off of. I might drink a few beers every now and than, take an oxy if I come across them but I'll never ever touch another benzo in my life. But that's just me...
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Hospitals are filled with people with fcked up livers because of aceto abuse.
this.
mixing it with alcohol makes it so much worse.
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The most common percs around are usually the white ones with 5 mg of oxycodone with 325mgs of acetaminophen. They're HUGE tabs and it's a lot of crap to have to snort. The oxycontins are tiny and don't have any other chemical along with oxycodone...probably just a little filler and the time release coating. I think the percs only go up to 10mg in oxycodone(and always acetaminophen mixed) at the most whereas the oxys I used to be able to get 80s..that is a LOT!.
I think they even go up to 160mgs tabs but I never came across them...
The dopey feeling groink mentions, thats a good way to describe it...lol. I didn't like percs cause of the acetaminophen since I used to like mixing that shit with alcohol (liver toxic to the tenth power) ...nearly stopped my heart a couple of times though lol
Withdrawls are a bitch...opiate, benzos and alcohol are the absolute worst to come off of. I might drink a few beers every now and than, take an oxy if I come across them but I'll never ever touch another benzo in my life. But that's just me...
Alcohol and Benzo's are the only 2 drugs where the WD's can kill you. (They can both cause fatal seizures in serious WD's)
Alcohol is the worst drug for your body by far, its the hardest on you physically bar none.
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Alcohol and Benzo's are the only 2 drugs where the WD's can kill you. (They can both cause fatal seizures in serious WD's)
Alcohol is the worst drug for your body by far, its the hardest on you physically bar none.
no way, worse than crack?
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no way, worse than crack?
Yup.
Hard to believe, but alcohol is straight poison for your body.
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The most common percs around are usually the white ones with 5 mg of oxycodone with 325mgs of acetaminophen. They're HUGE tabs and it's a lot of crap to have to snort. The oxycontins are tiny and don't have any other chemical along with oxycodone...probably just a little filler and the time release coating. I think the percs only go up to 10mg in oxycodone(and always acetaminophen mixed) at the most whereas the oxys I used to be able to get 80s..that is a LOT!.
I think they even go up to 160mgs tabs but I never came across them...
The dopey feeling groink mentions, thats a good way to describe it...lol. I didn't like percs cause of the acetaminophen since I used to like mixing that shit with alcohol (liver toxic to the tenth power) ...nearly stopped my heart a couple of times though lol
Withdrawls are a bitch...opiate, benzos and alcohol are the absolute worst to come off of. I might drink a few beers every now and than, take an oxy if I come across them but I'll never ever touch another benzo in my life. But that's just me...
Acetaminophen is heavy shit.
If it were me, i'd be tempted to do a cold water extraction on the percs with coffee filters, dump the aceto and then swig the liquid left anytime I wanted some opiates?
Not a suggestion btw lol.
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I'm as healthy as a horse. that was a long time ago. body snaps back quick when you take care of it.
in your mind I bet you really think that
in reality you replaced rec drugs with steroids and hormones and fatburners gh and slin
you are still the addict with a different addiction ... you ARE too old for this ... clean up and live life as a normal being ... not hoped up on something
I am your conscience Groink :-*
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Alcohol and Benzo's are the only 2 drugs where the WD's can kill you. (They can both cause fatal seizures in serious WD's)
Alcohol is the worst drug for your body by far, its the hardest on you physically bar none.
Yeah, a lot of people don't know this.
I think death from opiate withdrawal is possible only if someone has some other underlying health issue while discontinuing usage.
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Acetaminophen is heavy shit.
If it were me, i'd be tempted to do a cold water extraction on the percs with coffee filters, dump the aceto and then swig the liquid left anytime I wanted some opiates?
Not a suggestion btw lol.
hahaha that's exactly what I used to do when all I had was percs. I can still taste that shit in my mouth thinking about it lol :-X
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in your mind I bet you really think that
in reality you replaced rec drugs with steroids and hormones and fatburners gh and slin
you are still the addict with a different addiction ... you ARE too old for this ... clean up and live life as a normal being ... not hoped up on something
I am your conscience Groink :-*
Hahahaha groink doesn't realise that the continuous abuse of harsh steriod compunds and a lowish bodyfat level are the only reasons he feels on top of the world at 50 lol
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in your mind I bet you really think that
in reality you replaced rec drugs with steroids and hormones and fatburners gh and slin
you are still the addict with a different addiction ... you ARE too old for this ... clean up and live life as a normal being ... not hoped up on something
I am your conscience Groink :-*
You're a scumbag. I feel sorry for you, pal.
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The most common percs around are usually the white ones with 5 mg of oxycodone with 325mgs of acetaminophen. They're HUGE tabs and it's a lot of crap to have to snort. The oxycontins are tiny and don't have any other chemical along with oxycodone...probably just a little filler and the time release coating. I think the percs only go up to 10mg in oxycodone(and always acetaminophen mixed) at the most whereas the oxys I used to be able to get 80s..that is a LOT!.
I think they even go up to 160mgs tabs but I never came across them...
The dopey feeling groink mentions, thats a good way to describe it...lol. I didn't like percs cause of the acetaminophen since I used to like mixing that shit with alcohol (liver toxic to the tenth power) ...nearly stopped my heart a couple of times though lol
Withdrawls are a bitch...opiate, benzos and alcohol are the absolute worst to come off of. I might drink a few beers every now and than, take an oxy if I come across them but I'll never ever touch another benzo in my life. But that's just me...
They havent made the 160s in years, too many people were overdosing. I know a guy that took 3-4 of them in a day!!! Ya his tollarance was high lol
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The most common percs around are usually the white ones with 5 mg of oxycodone with 325mgs of acetaminophen. They're HUGE tabs and it's a lot of crap to have to snort. The oxycontins are tiny and don't have any other chemical along with oxycodone...probably just a little filler and the time release coating. I think the percs only go up to 10mg in oxycodone(and always acetaminophen mixed) at the most whereas the oxys I used to be able to get 80s..that is a LOT!.
I think they even go up to 160mgs tabs but I never came across them...
The dopey feeling groink mentions, thats a good way to describe it...lol. I didn't like percs cause of the acetaminophen since I used to like mixing that shit with alcohol (liver toxic to the tenth power) ...nearly stopped my heart a couple of times though lol
Withdrawls are a bitch...opiate, benzos and alcohol are the absolute worst to come off of. I might drink a few beers every now and than, take an oxy if I come across them but I'll never ever touch another benzo in my life. But that's just me...
Wow! That's crazy stuff man. Good info, thank you
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Hahahaha groink doesn't realise that the continuous abuse of harsh steriod compunds and a lowish bodyfat level are the only reasons he feels on top of the world at 50 lol
Abuse??? Where is the line drawn that you consider use vs. abuse?
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Alcohol and Benzo's are the only 2 drugs where the WD's can kill you. (They can both cause fatal seizures in serious WD's)
Alcohol is the worst drug for your body by far, its the hardest on you physically bar none.
Alcohol fukcs with all the nerves in the body. Drink long enough and your hands and feet will go numb.
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in your mind I bet you really think that
in reality you replaced rec drugs with steroids and hormones and fatburners gh and slin
you are still the addict with a different addiction ... you ARE too old for this ... clean up and live life as a normal being ... not hoped up on something
I am your conscience Groink :-*
wow your genetics really suck that bad, don't they ?
you are nothing to me, you are subhuman scum. never think you have any connection with me..........ever.
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Hahahaha groink doesn't realise that the continuous abuse of harsh steriod compunds and a lowish bodyfat level are the only reasons he feels on top of the world at 50 lol
And what shape will you be in when your 50 ;)
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It's a shame you won't be around to see my shape at 50 lol
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Chiro - I'd say the line is when you start exhibiting as a steriod user, the same signs as a regular drug abuser - good example is guys like groink etc who have been pinning like a self harming voodoo doll for 20 years, and use big amounts of whatever they can get hold of, while still maintaining to friends/family etc that could stop any day, only take small amount, been doing it for 6 months etc etc ;) ;) ;)
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It's a shame you won't be around to see my shape at 50 lol
Sure i will, you're no kid...I'll even help push your wheechair ;)
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Chiro - I'd say the line is when you start exhibiting as a steriod user, the same signs as a regular drug abuser - good example is guys like groink etc who have been pinning like a self harming voodoo doll for 20 years, and use big amounts of whatever they can get hold of, while still maintaining to friends/family etc that could stop any day, only take small amount, been doing it for 6 months etc etc ;) ;) ;)
what are you channeling sevastase , you douche.
aren't you a fat "powerlifter" type who thinks he's a big boss at the gym?
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Hahaha good point, at least if you bring your legs up a bit you could push me uphill aswell!
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I also went through the dreaded opiate addiction. Started with a big bag of Vicoden my buddies red neck step dad sold me when I was 19 years old. I would take 4-5 watson 10s and feel like I was absolutely on top of the world. When you first start using opiates you can get off really hard on things like Vicoden.
The addiction got worse. For a couple years I was using heavy doses of oxycotin, methadone, and whatever else I could get my hands on. I went through withdraws bad about 4-5 times. The worst was in college I went cold turkey from 40mg of methadone. That's not even a large dose. The mental anguish and pain was so fucken horrible. I wanted to quit school and go to a detox clinic! Thank god I stuck it out and finished school! I was real sick for about a month. The Paws (post acute withdraw syndrome) lasted for months.
Opiates are really fucken fun but you have to pay the piper sometime. When you do it's horrible!
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No powerlifter here lol, got some strong numbers though. I posted my pics twice a few years back, was one of the biggest guys on here at one time, apart from when sev renovated his bathroom with photoshop lol
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Very interesting thread, thanks to all for sharing and congrats to those that kicked.
I have a friend who has had severe back pain for over a year. They can't do surgery but she has tried shots in her back, etc. She is on Vicodin (or something like it), Oxycontin AND Tramadol. She has said she thinks she will have to go to rehab if her back ever gets fixed and she no longer needs the drugs (she has never been a drinker or drug user other than these drugs). Do any of you have any advice/encouragement I can pass along?
Shockwave, I recently read The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx. Have you read it and if so, what did you think?
I've red that poeople who've used strong drugs like Morphin for a relief of pain - go off them way easier, compared to these who used that stuff for "getting high"..
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I knew a kid back in high school who only dated this girl because her dad got in a really bad car accident so he could raid the old mans medicine cabinet and get his hands on really powerful drugs whenever he wanted.
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They havent made the 160s in years, too many people were overdosing. I know a guy that took 3-4 of them in a day!!! Ya his tollarance was high lol
ahh...that makes sense.
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wow your genetics really suck that bad, don't they ?
you are nothing to me, you are subhuman scum. never think you have any connection with me..........ever.
That's like asking if the sky is blue, Groinkster.
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Hahaha good point, at least if you bring your legs up a bit you could push me uphill aswell!
;D
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Very interesting thread, thanks to all for sharing and congrats to those that kicked.
I have a friend who has had severe back pain for over a year. They can't do surgery but she has tried shots in her back, etc. She is on Vicodin (or something like it), Oxycontin AND Tramadol. She has said she thinks she will have to go to rehab if her back ever gets fixed and she no longer needs the drugs (she has never been a drinker or drug user other than these drugs). Do any of you have any advice/encouragement I can pass along?
Shockwave, I recently read The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx. Have you read it and if so, what did you think?
I have not read it. As far as your friend goes, she'll be in for a hard time depending on her dosage and duration of use.
Contrary to what da_vinci said, it doesnt matter if your taking them to get high or for pain management - its all about dose and duration.
The symptoms wouldnt be nearly as bad as someone slamming an eightball of heroin everyday, obviously, but it can be really bad, especially with that cocktail of drugs.
Kind of weird they have her on Vicoden and Oxycontin, seems redundant to me. Tramadol (ultram) is supposed to be a non-narcotic painkiller, but its addictive as well.
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I knew a kid back in high school who only dated this girl because her dad got in a really bad car accident so he could raid the old mans medicine cabinet and get his hands on really powerful drugs whenever he wanted.
My sister's so called "friends" used to hang out with her so they can get to be around my brother....ahahahahah, sluts.
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I have not read it. As far as your friend goes, she'll be in for a hard time depending on her dosage and duration of use.
Contrary to what da_vinci said, it doesnt matter if your taking them to get high or for pain management - its all about dose and duration.
The symptoms wouldnt be nearly as bad as someone slamming an eightball of heroin everyday, obviously, but it can be really bad, especially with that cocktail of drugs.
Kind of weird they have her on Vicoden and Oxycontin, seems redundant to me. Tramadol (ultram) is supposed to be a non-narcotic painkiller, but its addictive as well.
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Truth.
wrt tramadol... it's weird cause I've heard people getting hooked on it but it did absolutely nothing to me.
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My sister's so called "friends" used to hang out with her so they can get to be around my brother....ahahahahah, sluts.
About the time her "friends" came over i would have told my bro to either take a hike or hide in that Bedroom closet over there and peak out while I show him how it's really supposed to be done.
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If any of you people are addicts, do yourself a favor and experiment with very strict water fasts. Work yourself up to 10 days. Then 20 days. Water fasts are a tool to use in life to clear your body of toxins. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can accomplish a 20 day water fast. Talk about mind of matter.
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If any of you people are addicts, do yourself a favor and experiment with very strict water fasts. Work yourself up to 10 days. Then 20 days. Water fasts are a tool to use in life to clear your body of toxins. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can accomplish a 20 day water fast. Talk about mind of matter.
Is that a real thing? How can you go without water that long? Wouldn't drinking lots of water flush the toxins out also?
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If any of you people are addicts, do yourself a favor and experiment with very strict water fasts. Work yourself up to 10 days. Then 20 days. Water fasts are a tool to use in life to clear your body of toxins. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can accomplish a 20 day water fast. Talk about mind of matter.
Do you mean only water for 10 days?
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Do you mean only water for 10 days?
Ya that makes more sense than what I was thinking lol. Duh
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Is that a real thing? How can you go without water that long? Wouldn't drinking lots of water flush the toxins out also?
You mean water only no food?
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You mean water only no food?
I guess that's what he's getting at? You can only go like a week without water, right? Snowman explain yourself.
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Do you mean only water for 10 days?
Yes...Google water fasts. Most bodybuilders who THINK they're going to lose size because of not getting their protein in would never think of doing a water fast. But losing muscle is all in the mind.
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I guess that's what he's getting at? You can only go like a week without water, right? Snowman explain yourself.
No you can go well over 40 days without food. Many people have done 40+ day water fasts. Woody Harrelson being one of them. Shit over 20 day fasts start to play with the spiritual side of the mind. Trust me though, if he work yourself up to a 10 day water only fast, you will be a different person mentally. And the best part is you will always have that in your bank. What I mean is, no matter how bad things get in your life, you can always go to the water fast to reset shit.
So many people you see coming into your gym who never lifted a weight in their life or did some kind of strict diet are more or less fucked. It's so much easier if "you've done it before" . Whether it be diet/training, or in this case complete food restriction.
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ive done somewhat water fasts or really low calories, youre gonna be sleeping and sleepy quite a bit , but it could probably cause a heart attack aswell
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Yes...Google water fasts. Most bodybuilders who THINK they're going to lose size because of not getting their protein in would never think of doing a water fast. But losing muscle is all in the mind.
I will check it out, sounds interesting. I remember an old school
lifter who actually did this one week out of the year. Have you done this before?
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ive done somewhat water fasts or really low calories, youre gonna be sleeping and sleepy quite a bit , but it could probably cause a heart attack aswell
No it won't cause a heart attack. But your mind might tell yourself it will. It certainly isn't for everyone. And anxiety is something that food restriction certainly can and most likely will cause. In most people, Anxiety is a heart attack in their mind. Long water fast are hard fcking core.
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I will check it out, sounds interesting. I remember an old school
lifter who actually did this one week out of the year. Have you done this before?
I've done up to 20 days(twice) Felt unbelievable but also felt I was from the planet Mars and everyone else was dirty smelly humans. The smell of meat cooking literally made me gag. The body odors off people in the gym were extremely gross for 75% of the people in my range. But holy fck the chicks who smelt good REALLY smelt good.
Anyone thinking of playing around with food restriction/water fast, please read up about it before doing so. The beginning and end of a fast are extremely important. You don't just start and stop. You have to slowly introduce things back into your diet.