Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums

Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 10:07:18 AM

Title: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 10:07:18 AM
August 14, 2012 11:25 am

Vice President Joe Biden told supporters that Republicans would “put y’all back in chains,” during a campaign speech Tuesday in Danville, Va.
 
VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: They’ve said it. Every Republican’s voted for it. Look at what they value and look at their budget and what they’re proposing. Romney wants to let the—he said in the first 100 days, he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules–unchain Wall Street. They’re going to put y’all back in chains. He’s said he’s going to do nothing about stopping the practice of outsourcing…
 
Biden was introduced at the campaign event by Center for American Progress Action Fund president Tom Perriello, who called Biden “the conscience of our nation’s capital.”

http://freebeacon.com/biden-on-romney-theyre-going-to-put-yall-back-in-chains


Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Shockwave on August 14, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
Evertime Biden opens his mouth, hilarity ensues.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 11:01:33 AM
Biden tells Va. supporters that Romney would put blacks ‘back in chains’

By Dave Boyer

The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 14, 2012




Vice President Joseph R. Biden told an audience that included several hundred black supporters Tuesday that Republican Mitt Romney’s efforts to loosen Wall Street regulations would put voters “back in chains.”

“Romney wants to, he said in the first 100 days, he’s gonna let the big banks again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street” Mr. Biden said of the presumptive GOP nominee at a campaign rally in Danville, Va. The vice president then lowered his voice and added, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”

Danville is roughly half black, and there were many black supporters in the audience of about 800 at the Institute for Advanced Learning and Research.

The Romney campaign reacted swiftly, accusing the Obama campaign of gutter politics.

“After weeks of slanderous and baseless accusations leveled against Governor Romney, the Obama campaign has reached a new low,” said Romney campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul in a statement. “The comments made by the vice president of the United States are not acceptable in our political discourse and demonstrate yet again that the Obama campaign will say and do anything to win this election. President Obama should tell the American people whether he agrees with Joe Biden’s comments.”

Former George W. Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer tweeted: “The press pounded [Sarah] Palin when she talked about ‘blood libel’ … what will they do about Biden’s ‘chains’ remark.”

Mr. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, opposes some of the financial reforms in the so-called Dodd-Frank legislation signed by Mr. Obama in 2010. Democrats said the law would curb risky investment practices and help to prevent another financial meltdown.

The vice president’s remarks came during a two-day campaign swing in Virginia and North Carolina, where he called Mr. Romney’s selection of Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as his running mate a move that will help clarify the race for voters. The Obama campaign is attacking Mr. Ryan’s budget plan, as well as his blueprint for reforming Medicare.

“This is a good thing, a good thing for the country that we have this stark, stark choice,” Mr. Biden said.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 11:20:03 AM
This wasn`t addressed to blacks specifically, even if it was, I don`t see a problem with it at all.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 11:21:23 AM
This wasn`t addressed to blacks specifically, even if it was, I don`t see a problem with it at all.

Yes it was - since when does Biden say "Y'All"   ? ? ? ? ? ?


And you don't have a problem w this?   LOL.  Fomenting a race war is ok ? 
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 11:24:24 AM
Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter says the campaign has "no problem" with Vice President Joe Biden's comment about putting people back in chains.

"I think he probably agrees with Joe Biden's sentiments," Cutter said on behalf of President Obama. "He's using a metaphor to talk about what's going to happen."
 
"I appreciate the faux outrage from the Romney campaign," Cutter said in reaction to a statement from the campaign. "If you want to talk about the use of words then take a look at Mitt Romney's stump speech where he basically calls the president un-American."
 
"The bottom line is that we have no problem with those comments," Cutter said.







The more in the gutter Obama stays while avoiding his disastrous presidency - the worse it will get for him. 
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 11:27:33 AM
Yes it was - since when does Biden say "Y'All"   ? ? ? ? ? ?


And you don't have a problem w this?   LOL.  Fomenting a race war is ok ? 
He was in Danville, VA (I love going there) and that is common speak for the locale.  Romney does it too, although sounds a bit more retarded when doing so.

I don`t have a problem with this because it does not foment anything. By acting like its an issue, it becomes one.  Nobody there thought it was an issue and in the south, this type of speak is perfectly fine.  The North are the only ones to find this kind of stuff "offensive".
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 11:29:18 AM
He was in Danville, VA (I love going there) and that is common speak for the locale.  Romney does it too, although sounds a bit more retarded when doing so.

I don`t have a problem with this because it does not foment anything. By acting like its an issue, it becomes one.  Nobody there thought it was an issue and in the south, this type of speak is perfectly fine.  The North are the only ones to find this kind of stuff "offensive".


I hope Biden and Obama keep up these public meltdowns - going to make it just worse for them. 
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 14, 2012, 11:31:28 AM
He was in Danville, VA (I love going there) and that is common speak for the locale.  Romney does it too, although sounds a bit more retarded when doing so.

I don`t have a problem with this because it does not foment anything. By acting like its an issue, it becomes one.  Nobody there thought it was an issue and in the south, this type of speak is perfectly fine.  The North are the only ones to find this kind of stuff "offensive".

I don't find it offensive, ridiculous - Yes, but Binden is another careen moron I mean politician so what should we expect
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: tu_holmes on August 14, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
He was in Danville, VA (I love going there) and that is common speak for the locale.  Romney does it too, although sounds a bit more retarded when doing so.

I don`t have a problem with this because it does not foment anything. By acting like its an issue, it becomes one.  Nobody there thought it was an issue and in the south, this type of speak is perfectly fine.  The North are the only ones to find this kind of stuff "offensive".

Agreed... Everyone in that area says "Ya'll".

Not to mention the fact I'm sure there were a lot of white people in that group.

Danville isn't an urban area at all... lots of white people.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: doison on August 14, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
It's okay everyone, he's a democrat.  HTH
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 11:43:18 AM
It's okay everyone, he's a democrat.  HTH
No, its okay if anyone says it.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: tu_holmes on August 14, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
No, its okay if anyone says it.

Exactly... Everyone is so damn sensitive.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 11:49:16 AM
No, its okay if anyone says it.


Right - Palin said death panels and the left freaked out for weeks and it was the talk of shows endklessly. 

Biden does the same thing - no biggie its all good.


Typical liberal double standards
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: tu_holmes on August 14, 2012, 11:51:33 AM

Right - Palin said death panels and the left freaked out for weeks and it was the talk of shows endklessly. 

Biden does the same thing - no biggie its all good.


Typical liberal double standards

Isn't the double standard on both sides?

It's not liberal... I mean, if you're a conservative and you complain, but you're ok with Palin's Death Panel comments, then are you the one with the double standard?

It seems like it's not liberal or conservative... both sides have a double standard and you only notice it when it's against your side.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 11:53:10 AM
Isn't the double standard on both sides?

It's not liberal... I mean, if you're a conservative and you complain, but you're ok with Palin's Death Panel comments, then are you the one with the double standard?

It seems like it's not liberal or conservative... both sides have a double standard and you only notice it when it's against your side.


Agreed - but will we see bidens comments in the MSM for weeks on end?  Yes or no?
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: tu_holmes on August 14, 2012, 11:55:30 AM

Agreed - but will we see bidens comments in the MSM for weeks on end?  Yes or no?

I bet it's on Fox... That's MSM.

The rest... maybe not... but don't all of those other news outlets together just barely add up to the Fox News viewership?
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 11:57:12 AM

Right - Palin said death panels and the left freaked out for weeks and it was the talk of shows endklessly. 

Biden does the same thing - no biggie its all good.


Typical liberal double standards
Death Panels were retarded to say because no such thing existed.  She was/is a moron of the highest order.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 11:58:03 AM
Death Panels were retarded to say because no such thing existed.  She was/is a moron of the highest order.

And Romney wants blacks in chains? 

Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 11:58:59 AM

Agreed - but will we see bidens comments in the MSM for weeks on end?  Yes or no?
Why would you want to?  Don`t you already know what he said?  What purpose would it serve to keep repeating it, especially when its not offensive at all?  The only purpose I see would be to try to make a story out of nothing and manufacture some sort of conflict.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 12:01:50 PM
And Romney wants blacks in chains? 


Palin was actually being literal, she thought Death Panels were a real thing.

Biden was using figurative speech to describe an issue. HUGE difference.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Straw Man on August 14, 2012, 12:04:56 PM

Right - Palin said death panels and the left freaked out for weeks and it was the talk of shows endklessly. 

Biden does the same thing - no biggie its all good.


Typical liberal double standards

That's because there are no such thing as death panels and Palin was saying it literally and dopes like you were believing it.   
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 12:05:00 PM
Palin was actually being literal, she thought Death Panels were a real thing.

Biden was using figurative speech to describe an issue. HUGE difference.

Krugman said the death panels were real too  
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 12:10:11 PM
Krugman said the death panels were real too  
Nah.  Not true at all.
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 14, 2012, 12:11:20 PM
Must be election season, the True Anus has returned to set us all strait with his brilliant insight ::)
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
Nah.  Not true at all.

Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2012, 12:16:01 PM

You do realize that was a joke/ tongue in cheek comment. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/opinion/14krugman.html?_r=1

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/opinion/21krugman.html

Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 05:05:01 AM
Home  > News  > columnists Biden gets in mud pit, plays the race card

John Kass


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0815-20120815,0,1133578.column
 
August 15, 2012




Is it too late for President Barack Obama to pick up the phone, call Hillary Rodham Clinton and dump Vice President Joe Biden for playing the race card against Republican Mitt Romney?

Yep. It's probably too late, y'all.

For years, Biden has suffered from a terrible affliction called Verpes (pronounced Vur-peez), the slang name for verbal herpes, from the Latin herpius verbulus. It comes from repeatedly taking your shoe with your foot still inside it and shoving it all the way into your mouth so that it smacks that little punching bag thing back there called a uvula.


Biden has had Verpes for years. This became apparent in 2006, when he was caught on C-SPAN greeting a supporter of Indian descent and telling him, "You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

He wasn't joking then, and he wasn't joking in Virginia on Tuesday.

Biden took a race card from the deck of Team Obama 2012, and stuck that race card to the tip of his shoe, and then slammed the whole darn thing into his mouth so hard that it must have scraped off half of the vice presidential taste buds.

"Look at what they value and look at their budget and what they're proposing," Biden said of the Republicans at a campaign stop in Danville, Va. "Romney wants to let the — he said in the first 100 days he's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules."

Then it happened. Biden began waving his right hand, palm up, and he adopted what he must have thought was the accent of a black minister.

"Unchain Wall Street," said Preacher Joe, reaching to the heavens, "They're going to put y'all back in chains."

Y'all.

Is that how people in Delaware talk? Or is it how white Democratic politicians speak when they're using dialect to talk down to black voters? What's next, Preacher Joe? Spirituals? Or are you going to carry around copies of "A Raisin in the Sun" and "To Kill a Mockingbird"?

Team Obama tried to defend Biden, but it was nonsensical babbling. And the Republicans were eager to pounce.

"The comments made by the vice president of the United States are not acceptable in our political discourse and demonstrate yet again that the Obama campaign will say and do anything to win this election," said Andrea Saul, Romney's press secretary. "President Obama should tell the American people whether he agrees with Joe Biden's comments."

Biden isn't just some hack on the stump. He's the vice president. And he clearly played the race card and the slavery card. Biden may have been talking to all of his audience when he used the word "y'all," since both blacks and whites use the term in the South. But the "back in chains" part wasn't for whites because whites weren't the ones in chains in Virginia.

It should be a defining moment in the campaign, but that depends on people in my business. Only a few weeks ago, Obama personally slapped small-business owners in the face, telling them "you didn't build that" about their businesses, as if some benevolent Obamaesque government shouldered the load. And immediately, many in my line of work twisted themselves like Gumby to argue he didn't mean it the way it sounded.

But Biden meant what he said. It was ugly and racist and crude. He knew what he was doing.

If this were the last presidential election, the one of hope and change, Obama would have to dump him for sure. But now the president is fighting for his political life, and he'll do what they all do, fight to win, whether it's in an alley or a mud pit.

Yet back in 2008, Obama was the messianic figure determined to transcend "the broken politics of the past" and all that other baby talk that City Hall mouthpiece Dave Axelrod offered up to wiggly, adoring journalists. Back then, Obama would have no choice. He would have been expected to thwack Biden publicly, then pick him up by the tail and spin him around some before whomping him against a light pole — the way you might have to whomp a rabid cat that attacked you in your driveway.

Should Hillary Clinton come to Obama's rescue? Why should she? When she and Obama faced off for the 2008 presidential nomination, Clinton and her husband, the former president, had the race card played against them by Team Obama. Bill had dared to suggest that Obama's Democratic primary victory in South Carolina was similar to past victories there by the Rev. Jesse Jackson. For daring to state the obvious, the Clintons were savaged. Bill Clinton said it was Obama's campaign that injected the race issue.

"I think that they played the race card on me," a still furious Clinton said in a radio interview after the campaign was over. "And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything, that they planned to do it all along. I was stating a fact, and it's still a fact."

For all his vulgarity and faux-preacher dialect and smarmy pol tricks in Virginia, Biden showed the American people what they can expect from the Obama campaign in the months ahead. And he distilled the Obama re-election effort down to its basic elements:

Class war and race.

Y'all.

jskass@tribune.com

Twitter @John_Kass

Copyright © 2012, Chicago Tribune
Title: Re: Biden to Blacks: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 05:42:30 AM
completely classless move.  And my guess - completely intentional to rally the base like that.  the VP actually put the image into the mind of voters that ryan/romney will enslave them.  Beyond reproach, but intentional, i'm sure.  Biden been doing this for 30 years and has made it to the #2 spot of power in the USA.  He's no dummy ;)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 15, 2012, 05:48:43 AM
3333, you stupid fucking moron... You think Y'all is a black thing ::)  

You're in the city.  You're from the city... yea... You should probably shut the fuck up about shit you don't know about outside your urban shithole.  You so self owned on this you fucking idiot ::)







LOL



fucking idiot!!!!
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 05:56:12 AM
i dont care about 'yall' wording.  I use that all the time.  I TYPE that shit lol.

But the chains reference - totally out of line there.  Referencing slavery while in the south, pointed directly at the candidate who bragged about his english/Anglo connection. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 06:02:44 AM
3333, you stupid fucking moron... You think Y'all is a black thing ::)  

You're in the city.  You're from the city... yea... You should probably shut the fuck up about shit you don't know about outside your urban shithole.  You so self owned on this you fucking idiot ::)







LOL



fucking idiot!!!!


Please show me one other rally where Biden said "Y'll" in front of only white crowd. 


You can't.  Biden was race baiting and the crowd knew it. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 15, 2012, 06:04:36 AM
i dont care about 'yall' wording.  I use that all the time.  I TYPE that shit lol.

But the chains reference - totally out of line there.  Referencing slavery while in the south, pointed directly at the candidate who bragged about his english/Anglo connection. 

oh who gives a fucking shit... I love how everyone bitches about political correctness until something is said that upsets them then oh hell no ::)  get over it.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 06:08:50 AM
oh who gives a fucking shit... I love how everyone bitches about political correctness until something is said that upsets them then oh hell no ::)  get over it.

Its the double standards that the leftists act towards their messiahs like obama and bite me.   

Had Ryan said this to a black audience he would be forced to step aside. 

Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 06:09:04 AM
oh who gives a fucking shit... I love how everyone bitches about political correctness until something is said that upsets them then oh hell no ::)  get over it.

are you saying the pasty obese john sununu is feigning being offeded?
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 06:10:13 AM

Please show me one other rally where Biden said "Y'll" in front of only white crowd. 

You can't.  Biden was race baiting and the crowd knew it. 

Biden was race baiting with the chains part.

"Yall" is how people speak in the south.  As a proud NYer, you don't claim to be an expert on Southern vernacular, do you?
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 15, 2012, 06:10:24 AM

Please show me one other rally where Biden said "Y'll" in front of only white crowd. 


You can't.  Biden was race baiting and the crowd knew it. 
I don't have to show you jack shit. Y'all is not a black saying idiot.  That's a fucking fact.  You're trying to say it is?  I'm sure some blacks say it but it's not known as a black saying whatsoever.  whites say that shit all across the south and into the upper west states..  You are freaking clueless on this.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 06:14:11 AM
I don't have to show you jack shit. Y'all is not a black saying idiot.  That's a fucking fact.  You're trying to say it is?  I'm sure some blacks say it but it's not known as a black saying whatsoever.  whites say that shit all across the south and into the upper west states..  You are freaking clueless on this.



"y'all in chains"


Nothing wrong there.   ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 06:46:57 AM
Palin calls on Obama to dump Biden in favor of Hillary Clinton
 Daily Mail UK ^ | 8/15/2012 | Toby Harnden


Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:03:31 AM


Sarah Palin has said that Joe Biden’s controversial ‘put y’all back in chains’ comment should be the ‘nail in the coffin’ for his career and suggested Barack Obama replace him on the 2012 ticket with Hillary Clinton.

She added that she hoped Obama would not take such a step because ‘an Obama/Clinton ticket would have a darn good chance of winning’.

But Palin’s unsolicited advice to Obama, while clearly mischievous, underlines the extent to which Biden has become a national laughing stock and a potential liability for the Democrats, despite his popularity among party activists and much-vaunted authentic style and working class roots.


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 06:51:41 AM
Palin calls on Obama to dump Biden in favor of Hillary Clinton
 Daily Mail UK ^ | 8/15/2012 | Toby Harnden


Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:03:31 AM


Sarah Palin has said that Joe Biden’s controversial ‘put y’all back in chains’ comment should be the ‘nail in the coffin’ for his career and suggested Barack Obama replace him on the 2012 ticket with Hillary Clinton.

She added that she hoped Obama would not take such a step because ‘an Obama/Clinton ticket would have a darn good chance of winning’.

But Palin’s unsolicited advice to Obama, while clearly mischievous, underlines the extent to which Biden has become a national laughing stock and a potential liability for the Democrats, despite his popularity among party activists and much-vaunted authentic style and working class roots.


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


posting from palin  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D most people don,t care what trailer trash thinks  :D
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 06:52:20 AM
EDITORIAL: Biden: Back on the chain gang

Obama campaign takes race-mongering to new low




Vice President Joe Biden told a racially mixed audience Wednesday that if Republicans take back the White House, "They're going to put y'all back in chains." It's hard to say what is more offensive: Mr. Biden's overt use of inflammatory racial symbolism, or someone from Delaware saying "y'all."

Stephanie Cutter, the Obama campaign's apply-named hatchet man, claimed Mr. Biden was "using a metaphor to talk about what's going to happen" and that "the bottom line is that we have no problem with those comments." That makes sense. There's no reason for the Obama campaign to apologize because hacking at the raw wound of racism is critical to the Democrats' reelection strategy.

This race is about race because if it were about issues, Democrats would lose. Mr. Obama's moribund economic record would guarantee that. Democrats haven't fared well with majority white voters generally at the presidential level. According to Gallup, the only Democratic presidential nominee to win a majority of the white vote in the last 60 years was Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Currently, white men favor Mr. Romney by a 24-point margin, and white women back the Republican ticket by 7 percent, according to Gallup.

White voters are still an overwhelming majority, but Democrats calculate there are enough self-loathing liberals of pallor who will vote for Mr. Obama even as they are being castigated for their ethnicity. Victor Davis Hanson wrote in National Review that the campaign is trying to convince independent white voters that voting for Mitt Romney will mean "becoming socially unacceptable; it will be tantamount to embracing a Neanderthal sort of mindset that opposes Obama not on his disastrous economic policies but simply because of his race."

Racial code language and anti-white statements are being tolerated, even lauded, in ways that would spark a firestorm of indignation if directed at any other ethnic group. Def Jam Records co-founder Russell Simmons wrote that Mr. Romney and his running-mate Rep. Paul Ryan are "two men who will destroy our people and laugh all the way to the bank with their rich friends." MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry quipped that Mr. Ryan quoting the Declaration of Independence, "is a lovely thing to say as a wealthy white man." She accused him of "misusing" Jefferson's words by downplaying what she "as an African-American woman" sees as the central role of government in the "pursuit of happiness."

Mrs. Harris-Perry echoed an important Obama campaign theme, tying identity politics to government handouts. What black leaders once denounced as racism - namely the implication that minorities must be dependent on government to survive - the Obama White House embraces as a symbol of dignity.

This racial jiu-jitsu can backfire. Democrats have abandoned what was promised to be one of Mr. Obama's strengths in 2008: his alleged ability to rise above the racial divide. Now the president has given up pretending to usher in a post-racial America because his political future depends on exacerbating racial tensions. Mr. Obama no longer seeks to heal the breach but to rub salt in the wound.

The Washington Times

© Copyright 2012 The Washington Times, LLC. Click here for reprint permission.








Obama is stuck in the gutter where he never left. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: GigantorX on August 15, 2012, 06:52:44 AM
The use of "Y'all" isn't the problem as it is part of the local dialect although it makes Biden sound like a fucking imbecile and a total idiot.

The problem is the use of "Put ya'll back in chains" Seriously, besides it being a total scare tactic and a lie, who the hell do you think that was really coded for? Whites in chains? Uh, no..... It was meant for blacks and blacks alone.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: dario73 on August 15, 2012, 07:12:54 AM
The use of "Y'all" isn't the problem as it is part of the local dialect although it makes Biden sound like a fucking imbecile and a total idiot.

The problem is the use of "Put ya'll back in chains" Seriously, besides it being a total scare tactic and a lie, who the hell do you think that was really coded for? Whites in chains? Uh, no..... It was meant for blacks and blacks alone.

Of course. It is plain and simple. But the liberal idiots on this board, including the posting moderator, are too stupid to comprehend such basic logic. The scary part is that those buffoons get to vote. USA will never recover.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 07:15:09 AM
Of course. It is plain and simple. But the liberal idiots on this board, including the posting moderator, are too stupid to comprehend such basic logic. The scary part is that those buffoons get to vote. USA will never recover.


Remember  - they voted for these two bufoons in the WH. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:18:38 AM
Blacks didn`t have to be put in chains at all in the South. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:20:20 AM
"John Brown's effort was peculiar. It was not a slave insurrection. It was an attempt by white men to get up a revolt among slaves, in which the slaves refused to participate."
Abraham Lincoln--February 27, 1860
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:21:30 AM
All throughout slavery there never once was a slave insurrection by slaves.  There were no chains.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSkNKNK-JFHYG_dUgxmBScdZ_8VMUgidmHP1hGegyU-PJfSRO4yqV8S-3T_g)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:23:42 AM
The use of "Y'all" isn't the problem as it is part of the local dialect although it makes Biden sound like a fucking imbecile and a total idiot.

The problem is the use of "Put ya'll back in chains" Seriously, besides it being a total scare tactic and a lie, who the hell do you think that was really coded for? Whites in chains? Uh, no..... It was meant for blacks and blacks alone.
There were White Slaves in the South.  Many were debtors to an estate or simply bought and paid for on the auction block.  The white slave population was pretty large at one point.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 07:26:04 AM
There were White Slaves in the South.  Many were debtors to an estate or simply bought and paid for on the auction block.  The white slave population was pretty large at one point.


Shut the fuck up, it's obvious what Smilin' Joe was saying.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 07:26:39 AM

Shut the fuck up, it's obvious what Smilin' Joe was saying.


Bingo - and so did the crowd! 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:29:10 AM

Shut the fuck up, it's obvious what Smilin' Joe was saying.
Perhaps it would do you some good to learn American History and not some liberal revisionist version that never happened or which is glossed over.  This is where you and the liberals converge.  

I don`t care what Joe said as its not offensive to anyone and if you REALLY examine the issue and apply it to American History as it happened, his comment makes zero sense anyways.

Yet, you and the other know nothings are all Butt Hurt over it.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:32:00 AM
"People at the North are disposed to be incredulous when they hear of white slaves at the South: and yet a little reflection would convince them not only that there must be such slaves under the present system, but that in process of time a large proportion of the slaves must be as white as their masters."
 
              B William Jay, Miscellaneous Writings on Slavery (1853)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 07:32:33 AM
Perhaps it would do you some good to learn American History and not some liberal revisionist version that never happened or which is glossed over.  This is where you and the liberals converge.  

I don`t care what Joe said as its not offensive to anyone and if you REALLY examine the issue and apply it to American History as it happened, his comment makes zero sense anyways.

Yet, you and the other know nothings are all Butt Hurt over it.


LOL - you think Slow Joe is as versed as you are in this subject?  Come on now - you are talking about a guy who got busted plagerizing in school.  
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
Perhaps it would do you some good to learn American History and not some liberal revisionist version that never happened or which is glossed over.  This is where you and the liberals converge.  

I don`t care what Joe said as its not offensive to anyone and if you REALLY examine the issue and apply it to American History as it happened, his comment makes zero sense anyways.

Yet, you and the other know nothings are all Butt Hurt over it.
Blah blah blah, more of your pseudo-intellectual bullshit. Indentured servants, black slave owners........ Yeah I well aware of American History, the problem is your incessant need to justify stupid shit the dems say, when everyone knows exactly what he is getting at. But lets do a history discussion, and wow, Binden looks even more like a fucking moron

So again SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:36:09 AM

LOL - you think Slow Joe is as versed as you are in this subject?  Come on now - you are talking about a guy who got busted plagerizing in school.  
I`m 100 percent sure he is not.  But if we were to actually take his words and apply it to the true history of the South, then they do apply across the board to whites and blacks.  He didn`t know this as most don`t.  Most enjoy the Liberal and untrue version of American History instead of what really happened.




(http://www.mirrorofrace.org/images/Goodmanimage.jpg)

On January 30, 1864, Harper’s Weekly printed an engraving of a photograph, entitled “Emancipated Slaves, White and Colored,” depicting three adults and five children who had been brought north from Louisiana by Colonel George H. Hanks and set free by Major General Nathaniel P. Banks. The group made a series of public appearances and were photographed as part of a campaign to raise funds for public schools for freed slaves, the first of which was established by Major General Banks in October 1863. The hope was, writes Kathleen Collins in “Portraits of Slave Children,” that “these enigmatic portraits of Caucasian-featured children” would galvanize “Northern benefactors to contribute to the future of a race to which these children found themselves arbitrarily confined” (207). The “white slaves” depicted in the engraving were described by the editor of Harper’s as being “as white, as intelligent, as docile, as most of our own children” (66).
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:37:09 AM
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/2/27/13/enhanced-buzz-32500-1330366844-38.jpg)

(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/2/27/13/enhanced-buzz-14555-1330367267-86.jpg)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:37:51 AM
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/2/27/13/enhanced-buzz-14641-1330368235-95.jpg)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 07:38:16 AM
Not saying no - but this is Biden we are talking about



I`m 100 percent sure he is not.  But if we were to actually take his words and apply it to the true history of the South, then they do apply across the board to whites and blacks.  He didn`t know this as most don`t.  Most enjoy the Liberal and untrue version of American History instead of what really happened.




(http://www.mirrorofrace.org/images/Goodmanimage.jpg)

On January 30, 1864, Harper’s Weekly printed an engraving of a photograph, entitled “Emancipated Slaves, White and Colored,” depicting three adults and five children who had been brought north from Louisiana by Colonel George H. Hanks and set free by Major General Nathaniel P. Banks. The group made a series of public appearances and were photographed as part of a campaign to raise funds for public schools for freed slaves, the first of which was established by Major General Banks in October 1863. The hope was, writes Kathleen Collins in “Portraits of Slave Children,” that “these enigmatic portraits of Caucasian-featured children” would galvanize “Northern benefactors to contribute to the future of a race to which these children found themselves arbitrarily confined” (207). The “white slaves” depicted in the engraving were described by the editor of Harper’s as being “as white, as intelligent, as docile, as most of our own children” (66).
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:40:28 AM
Not saying no - but this is Biden we are talking about



Right, Biden is a moron at times.  But if anyone feigns outrage over this, this only gives credence to the bullshit version of American History and not the way it really happened.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:41:08 AM
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/2/27/13/enhanced-buzz-5949-1330368342-190.jpg)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 07:41:21 AM
Not saying no - but this is Biden we are talking about




Don't get bogged down in his BS, odds are these "Caucasian-featured children", were the offspring of the white slave owner and black slaves.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:43:35 AM
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nchist-antebellum/5431

A petition to free a white slave

Petition of Gurdon Deming to the North Carolina General Assembly, December 1800. Records of the General Assembly, Session Records, North Carolina Division of Archives and History.

To the Honorable the General Assembly of the State of North Carolina.
The Petition of Gurdon Deming a citizen of the county of Cumberland Humbly sheweth, that he is the owner of a Certain woman named Lucy and her child Laura Who were represented to be slaves and as such purchased by your petitioner –
That he has reason to believe and doth believe from diligent inquires made, that the Said Lucy ought not to be held in bondage. Your petitioner is aware that legal proof cannot be made of the fact, yet your petitioner is fully satisfied, that the Said Lucy is the daughter of a free white Woman – that to conceal this circumstance, so as to protect the reputation of the real mother, Lucy at her birth was placed in charge of a woman slave of one John Selph – Your petitioner learns from a number of the most respectable citizens of Fayetteville, that it was always the intention of Mr. Selph to manumit the Said Lucy at his death – but the death of Mr. Selph being sudden and his estate providing insolvent, his intentions were frustrated – Lucy was sold by his administrator and she was purchased at a mere nominal Sum by Several Gentlemen with the View to Carry out the wishes of Mr. Selph; Owing however to the insolvency of the person delegated to bid her off, occurring soon after, She was again Sold and has subsequently fallen with into the hands of your petitioner –
The History of Lucy is a romantic one, and if your petitioner could detail it without giving offense and bringing to light, what has long been forgotten and thereby do injury perhaps to persons now residents of a distant state, he is certain your honorable body would not hesitate a moment in assisting him in doing simple justice to this injured Girl, by authorizing her immediate Emancipation –
Lucy in colour is perfectly White, and cannot be distinguished from the purest of the race, her associations have been distinct from the coloured population, and her whole demeanor that of the whites to which class she evidently belongs.
In consideration of these things your petitioner humbly prays your honorable body to pass a law authorizing the Emancipation of the Said Lucy, and her child Laura, And as in duty bound, your petitioner will ever pray.
Gurdon Deming
Next: Black codes
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 07:45:37 AM
(http://blog.brand-yourself.com/wp-content/uploads/Cut-and-Paste-300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:47:25 AM
While Whites Languished in Chains Blacks Were Free Men in Virginia Throughout the 17th Century.[48]
A Documentary History of Slavery in North America, Willie Lee Rose, p.  15; Free Negro in Virginia, John Henderson Russell, 1619‑1865, p. 233ff; Who Built America?, Bruce Levine, et al., Vol. 1, p. 52.


In 1717, it was proposed that a qualification for election to the South Carolina Assembly was to be, "the ownership of one white man." [49]
[49] Journals of the Commons House of Assembly of the Province of South Carolina: 1692‑1775, Vol. 5, pp. 294‑295.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:49:21 AM
"When I was a boy, 'recalled Waters McIntosh, who had been a slave in Sumter, South Carolina, 'we used to sing, 'Rather be a N I G G E R than a poor White Man,' Even in slavery we used to sing that.' Mr. McIntosh's remarks reveal...that the poor whites of the South ranked below blacks in social standing...slaves felt unbridled contempt for lower‑class whites...Frederick Douglas opened his famous Life and Times with an account of Talbot County, Maryland, which he said housed a 'White population of the lowest order..
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:51:16 AM
The many (Negro) ex‑slaves who recalled the lot of the small farmers and Poor Whites as Hard and Even as Bad as Their Own knew what they were talking about...The slaves saw enough abject poverty, disease, and demoralization among the Poor Whites...to see their own condition under Old Massa's protection as perhaps not the worst of evils." [55]

[55] Rather Be a black Than a Poor White Man, Eugene D. Genovese; Slave Perceptions of Southern Yeoman and Poor Whites, in Toward a New View of America, pp. 79, 81‑82, 84, 90‑91
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 07:51:53 AM
You better watch it there True Anus, you are threatening the victim hood of the black community.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
You better watch it there True Anus, you are threatening the victim hood of the black community.
Thats precisely my point.  By 333366 and fellow Republicans making this an issue (when it is not one according to Historical Record), you are further casting black people as the sole victims and that just wasn`t the case.  You guys oughta drop this issue, unless you want to continue the liberal agenda of victim hood.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 07:58:36 AM
Thats precisely my point.  By 333366 and fellow Republicans making this an issue (when it is not one according to Historical Record), you are further casting black people as the sole victims and that just wasn`t the case.  You guys oughta drop this issue, unless you want to continue the liberal agenda of victim hood.

Ummmm....who claimed they were the sole victims?

None of this pointless posting of yours negates the fact that Biden's boneheaded remarks were aimed squarely at black people, not white people or Native Americans.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 07:59:08 AM
Thats precisely my point.  By 333366 and fellow Republicans making this an issue (when it is not one according to Historical Record), you are further casting black people as the sole victims and that just wasn`t the case.  You guys oughta drop this issue, unless you want to continue the liberal agenda of victim hood.

Oh please - its an issue because Biden was race baiting and trying to stir the crowd - not some historical debate. 

GMAFB 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 07:59:59 AM
President Andrew Johnson was held in Bondage until age 17 in Raleigh, NC.  His Master was a man called J. Selby.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 08:04:58 AM
that was palin doing what palin always does - trying to 'call for' something that would be the next obvious move.

She 'called for' Rahm to be fired after he said some shit.  So if obama fires him, to her cast of idiot followers, she "wins"?

Either way, hilary on the ticket would be romneys WORST NIGHTMARE.  And 33, you fuckin know it.

you want obama/biden on this ticket.  Hilary would make Ryan look like a fuckin schoolboy in the debates - you know it dude.  she has been running the world on and off for 20 years, and can speak firsthand on shit all over the word for the last 25+ years on int'l scene.

You'd better PRAY hilary isn't on the ticket.  Obama destroys Romney then. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 08:06:01 AM
Oh please - its an issue because Biden was race baiting and trying to stir the crowd - not some historical debate. 

GMAFB 
By you and others harping on this issue though, it only serves to put another coat of paint and gloss over the true History of America in the South.  Biden is a moron of course and he had no clue what he was saying, but when you actually apply it to the actual history (which I am sure Biden knows nothing about) his comments are extremely banal and accurate as a historical reference.

Biden I am sure was unaware of this totally.


But, by harping on this, you and the others are only serving to engender the Liberal cause of Black Victim Hood and a revision of history that never happened.  Its important that Nobody does this.  
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 08:06:14 AM
that was palin doing what palin always does - trying to 'call for' something that would be the next obvious move.

She 'called for' Rahm to be fired after he said some shit.  So if obama fires him, to her cast of idiot followers, she "wins"?

Either way, hilary on the ticket would be romneys WORST NIGHTMARE.  And 33, you fuckin know it.

you want obama/biden on this ticket.  Hilary would make Ryan look like a fuckin schoolboy in the debates - you know it dude.  she has been running the world on and off for 20 years, and can speak firsthand on shit all over the word for the last 25+ years on int'l scene.

You'd better PRAY hilary isn't on the ticket.  Obama destroys Romney then. 

Hillary and Bubba both hate obama and will be voting for RR  
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 08:12:44 AM
Hillary and Bubba both hate obama and will be voting for RR  

I doubt Hilary is going to attach herself to this trainwreck as VP. The Clintons have to play the role; so, in the event Obama goes down in flames, they can tell the Dems, "We tried to help this guy; but his record just sucked too much for us to save him. But, there's always 2016."
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2012, 08:20:29 AM
Biden set the context for "chains" in his statement and no one in the audience was offended

I hope Biden keeps saying stuff like this because the Repubs take the bait every time and seem compelled to waste their time on this nonsense

Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 08:21:39 AM
Biden set the context for "chains" in his statement and no one in the audience was offended

I hope Biden keeps saying stuff like this because the Repubs take the bait every time and seem compelled to waste their time on this nonsense





LOL!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2012, 08:32:50 AM


LOL!!!!!!!!



keep taking the bait
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 08:33:15 AM
Biden set the context for "chains" in his statement and no one in the audience was offended

I hope Biden keeps saying stuff like this because the Repubs take the bait every time and seem compelled to waste their time on this nonsense



I'm not offended, I'm just sick of the double standard. So I'll say it plainly fuck Biden, he is an ignorant buffoon and an embarrassment to America.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 08:34:36 AM
keep taking the bait


False - its the gullible 95ers who Biden needs to take the bait since obama biden have a failed presidency they can't defend. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: dario73 on August 15, 2012, 08:36:12 AM
keep taking the bait


You took the bait in 2008 and you are willing to take it up the ass in 2012.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
You took the bait in 2008 and you are willing to take it up the ass in 2012.

that doesn't even make any sense
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 08:42:23 AM
I'm not offended, I'm just sick of the double standard. So I'll say it plainly fuck Biden, he is an ignorant buffoon and an embarrassment to America.
The real point here is that there is no double standard unless you subscribe to an untrue liberal revisionist history of the south and would like to further the case for Victim hood.


You Republicans oughta be pointing out that what Joe Biden said (although he didn`t realize it) meshes well with the fact that Whites were bonded in slavery as well and that Joe is a moron for not knowing this important piece of American History.

Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 09:59:58 AM
I doubt Hilary is going to attach herself to this trainwreck as VP. The Clintons have to play the role; so, in the event Obama goes down in flames, they can tell the Dems, "We tried to help this guy; but his record just sucked too much for us to save him. But, there's always 2016."

won't she be close to 70 in 2012?   Too old.  It's easy on paper to say "hilary would decline".

You offer her that power, and watch her eyes get big.  She'd take that shit in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
won't she be close to 70 in 2012?   Too old.  It's easy on paper to say "hilary would decline".

You offer her that power, and watch her eyes get big.  She'd take that shit in a heartbeat.

If she accepts the VP nomination, Obama better have on a bulletproof vest and Kevlar helmet.

Besides, McCain is older than Clinton and he ran for president. If you're Hilary, you want your own clean slate; you do NOT want the burden of defending this debacle of a presidency.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 10:16:57 AM
If she accepts the VP nomination, Obama better have on a bulletproof vest and Kevlar helmet.

Besides, McCain is older than Clinton and he ran for president. If you're Hilary, you want your own clean slate; you do NOT want the burden of defending this debacle of a presidency.

Mccain was too old.  Looked exhausted.  Knocked over applesauce.  Had 'senior moments'.

Eh, Hilary won't be easy on the eyes.  It'd be 2008 all over again.  I highly doubt at 70 she would even bother, since another young hotshot would arrive and win the new change vote.

If she's veep, then being 70 and moving into office is natural. 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 10:18:06 AM
Mccain was too old.  Looked exhausted.  Knocked over applesauce.  Had 'senior moments'.

Eh, Hilary won't be easy on the eyes.  It'd be 2008 all over again.  I highly doubt at 70 she would even bother, since another young hotshot would arrive and win the new change vote.

If she's veep, then being 70 and moving into office is natural. 


Changing Biden smacks of desperation. 

What all of a sudden his hair plugs are going to have an infection or something? 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2012, 10:20:58 AM

Changing Biden smacks of desperation. 

What all of a sudden his hair plugs are going to have an infection or something? 

it'll smack of desperation, but that emotion will pass quickly.

Hilary completely eviscerating Paul Ryan, however.... ANd hilary as the attack dog for the liberal romney.

HELL- Hilary is probably to the right of romney haha.

You can rationalize it all you want, but a lot of middle of road voters (tired of repub bullshit and lying obama) will look at hilary (who will slip, of course, if she wins she will seek re-election in 2016).... and they'll remember the Clinton years.

With hilary, she wins.   Jeb Bush/marco Rubio is the only ticket beating that, maybe.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Mccain was too old.  Looked exhausted.  Knocked over applesauce.  Had 'senior moments'.

Yet, had the economic collapse occurred in late November, instead of late September, we'd be talking about president McCain.



Eh, Hilary won't be easy on the eyes.  It'd be 2008 all over again.  I highly doubt at 70 she would even bother, since another young hotshot would arrive and win the new change vote.

If she's veep, then being 70 and moving into office is natural. 

How old was Reagan when he hit the Oval Office?

I doubt Hilary wants anything to do with this train wreck. Let Obama and Biden crash and burn and go after Romney in 2016.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 11:33:44 AM
Obama is the one putting everyone in economic chains w his disastrous policies of decay decline deficit debt depression and despair 
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 11:36:01 AM
(http://static.thepeoplescube.com/images/Chains_Poster_Work_Sucks.jpg)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 11:37:40 AM
Obama is the one putting everyone in economic chains w his disastrous policies of decay decline deficit debt depression and despair 
Obamacare and the Insurance Mandate is the Ball and chain that shackles us all to Private Health Insurance.

Someone oughta make that photoshop.  Would be a hit.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 11:48:30 AM
(http://static.thepeoplescube.com/images/Chains_Poster_Occupy.png)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 11:49:30 AM
Obamacare and the Insurance Mandate is the Ball and chain that shackles us all to Private Health Insurance.

Someone oughta make that photoshop.  Would be a hit.

ObamaCare does no such thing. ObamaCare is de facto single payer, because it's going to low-ball private insurance companies out of business. That's why so many left-winged politicians, who were whooping and hollering about a single payer system, went with ObamaCare.

Even our military is about to get screwed as Obama hikes up the rates of Tricare to force vets and retirees onto ObamaCare.

Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
ObamaCare does no such thing. ObamaCare is de facto single payer, because it's going to low-ball private insurance companies out of business. That's why so many left-winged politicians, who were whooping and hollering about a single payer system, went with ObamaCare.

Even our military is about to get screwed as Obama hikes up the rates of Tricare to force vets and retirees onto ObamaCare.


::)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 11:53:19 AM
::)

Are you denying that ObamaCare is designed to put private insurance out to pasture, leaving government-run insurance (single-payer) as the only option?
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:00:55 PM
Are you denying that ObamaCare is designed to put private insurance out to pasture, leaving government-run insurance (single-payer) as the only option?

With Conviction.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 12:06:38 PM
With Conviction.

And the reason Obama wants to keep private insurance in business would be.......

Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:10:24 PM
Obama's end game has always been a government run single payer system.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: flipper5470 on August 15, 2012, 12:14:37 PM
Today Biden said something to the effect of "We can lead the world in the prodution of cars in the 20th century".  Ok..he fucked up where yesterday, he fucked up when today.  When he fucks up who and what, will Obama dump him then?
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 12:15:01 PM
Obama's end game has always been a government run single payer system.

EXACTLY!!

But, TA's warped logic says ObamaCare is horrible, only because it (at present) forces the purchase of private insurance. Once you're forced on government-run insurance, though, everything's hunky-dory.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:16:51 PM
EXACTLY!!

But, TA's warped logic says ObamaCare is horrible, only because it (at present) forces the purchase of private insurance. Once you're forced on government-run insurance, though, everything's hunky-dory.
The True Anus lives in a fantasy world
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:19:59 PM
EXACTLY!!

But, TA's warped logic says ObamaCare is horrible, only because it (at present) forces the purchase of private insurance. Once you're forced on government-run insurance, though, everything's hunky-dory.
ROLFMAO!

Not sure if Srs.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
ROLFMAO!

Not sure if Srs.

And the difference between being forced to buy private insurance and being forced to be on government-run insurance would be.........
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:25:15 PM
And the difference between being forced to buy private insurance and being forced to be on government-run insurance would be.........
Srsly?
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 12:27:10 PM
Srsly?

YES!! Humor me!! Or, are you simply unable to answer the question without looking sillier than normal?
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:27:23 PM
Srsly?

Brilliant answer every question with a question
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
And the difference between being forced to buy private insurance and being forced to be on government-run insurance would be.........
Why not have both which is what a Single Payer System allows.  Anyone who wants additional coverage for whatever reason can pay a Private Insurance in a Private Network.  Single Payer gives everyone base level coverage at no cost and is much cheaper to what we have now.  Taxes do not have to be raised either.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:30:33 PM
Why not have both which is what a Single Payer System allows.  Anyone who wants additional coverage for whatever reason can pay a Private Insurance in a Private Network.  Single Payer gives everyone base level coverage at no cost and is much cheaper to what we have now.  Taxes do not have to be raised either.

Well because healthcare isn't a right
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
Why not have both which is what a Single Payer System allows.  Anyone who wants additional coverage for whatever reason can pay a Private Insurance in a Private Network.  Single Payer gives everyone base level coverage at no cost and is much cheaper to what we have now.  Taxes do not have to be raised either.

There is no such thing as "no cost". Taxes being raised is precisely how this is paid, hence all the taxes in ObamaCare (many of which hit those who are far from "rich").
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:34:15 PM
Well because healthcare isn't a right
I think it should be.

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what-is-single-payer
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:35:54 PM
I think it should be.

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what-is-single-payer

Well good for you, it isn't......   In one thread your all for population control, and the next your all about health care. I think you are full of shit
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:38:12 PM
Well good for you, it isn't......   In one thread your all for population control, and the next your all about health care. I think you are full of shit
I like both ideas.  Birth rate Control and Single Payer.  They work together rather nicely I should think.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
I like both ideas.  Birth rate Control and Single Payer.  They work together rather nicely I should think.

How about nobody gets to live past 40, then we can take their bodies and make it into soylent green ::)
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:40:14 PM
How about nobody gets to live past 40, then we can take their bodies and make it into soylent green ::)
Thats not fair. But giving extra tax breaks and incentives to those who don`t want children is.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:41:14 PM
Thats not fair. But giving extra tax breaks and incentives to those who don`t want children is.

How about NOT, and the government gets the fuck out of people's lives
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
How about NOT, and the government gets the fuck out of people's lives
How is that inviting the Government into your life or forcing you to do something you do not want to do?

I`d like an extra tax break or some incentive.  People with children get free shit and tax breaks that I can`t get.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:48:37 PM
How is that inviting the Government into your life or forcing you to do something you do not want to do?

I`d like an extra tax break or some incentive.  People with children get free shit and tax breaks that I can`t get.

Hey if you want to be gubment slave there are plenty of countries that will oblige you, fortunately the US has a constitution, that is supposed to stop that sort of shit.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:50:51 PM
Hey if you want to be gubment slave there are plenty of countries that will oblige you, fortunately the US has a constitution, that is supposed to stop that sort of shit.
I want to repeal the Income Tax in favor of a National Sales Tax!

I bet you don`t want to go that far.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 12:52:53 PM
I want to repeal the Income Tax in favor of a National Sales Tax!

I bet you don`t want to go that far.

Repeal the 16th Amendment? I'm all for it
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
Repeal the 16th Amendment? I'm all for it
The only person who wanted to do that was Mike Gravel in 2008.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 01:36:30 PM
The only person who wanted to do that was Mike Gravel in 2008.

The only way this is going to happen is if elections are abolished and lottery is held, you get picked you server 1 term, then it is someone else turn. Then it would truely be a public a term of public service and not a fucking career
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on August 15, 2012, 02:27:28 PM
Imagine the outrage if Don Imus said that comment!!! shit would have hit the fan , jessie jackson and al sharpton would already have a dozen cases being brought against him
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2012, 10:22:27 AM

http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/08/americas-first-black-governor-tells-joe-biden-slavery-is-nothing-to-joke-about.html




America's first black governor tells Joe Biden: 'Slavery is nothing to joke about.’America’s first black governor in modern times has become the most senior Democrat to break ranks over Joe Biden’s ‘y’all in chains’ comments, telling the Vice President: 'Slavery is nothing to joke about.'

Douglas Wilder, who was governor of Virginia from 1990 to 1994 and the first black governor since Reconstruction, told CNN that 'without question' Biden’s remarks in Danville, Virginia (though the veep seemed to think he was in North Carolina) 'were appeals to race'.

He continued: 'The important thing I got out of this was Biden separated himself from what he accused the people of doing. As a matter of fact, what he said is they are going to do something to y’all, not to me. Not us. So he was still involved with that separate American.

'As far as I am concerned, the President would not associate himself with those remarks. And I expect as the days go forward there will be more clarity associated with what the president feels about what Joe Biden said.

Douglas Wilder: no fan of Joe Biden (Photo - AP)

In another interview, with Fox News, Wilder said: 'Slavery is nothing to joke about. And the history of this nation’s involvement with slavery is nothing to pass off in a joke.'

Suggesting that Biden was a liability to Obama, he added that 'you can’t continue to make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe and believe that it’s going to be supportive of what you and the president are both trying to do'.

At the Danville rally, where large numbers of black supporters were present, Biden said: 'Look at what they [Republicans] value, and look at their budget. And look what they’re proposing.

'He [Romney] said in the first 100 days he’s going to let the big banks write their own rules, unchain Wall Street. They’re going to put y’all back in chains.'

Wilder said on CNN that it had long been his view that Obama, as suggested by Sarah Palin on Tuesday, should dump Biden and adopt Hillary Clinton as his vice-presidential running mate.

'If Hillary were on that ticket today based on the job she’s done as Secretary of State, I think that would be a clearer advantage the president would be seeing.

'It’s not going to happen. It’s too late. I think she’ll be getting herself together for 2016. But that doesn’t help the president today. What the president need to do it disassociate himself from trying to show anybody that division is what this administration is about as some may have said, "cool it, back up".'

Artur Davis, a black former congressman who was one of President Barack Obama’s most prominent supporters in 2008, told CNN that Biden was employing 'a divisive tactic that’s insulting to African Americans'.

The comments, he charged, were a deliberate racial tactic. 'I know what Joe Biden was doing. Every black person in that room knew who the "y'all" was. They knew what the chains were. They knew what the metaphor was about.'


So far, Obama has stuck by Biden - he has little other option - though he was visibly uncomfortable when asked about the remarks by People magazine and Entertainment Tonight during what were doubtless intended by the Obama campaign to be feelgood, softball interviews.

The President told People that Biden wanted to say that consumers would be worse off if Republicans succeeded in doing away with new restraints on financial institutions.

'In no sense was he trying to connote something other than that.'

He told Entertainment Tonight: 'You know, the country’s not as divided or obsessed with gaffes or some stray remark as Washington is.

'What Joe Biden was talking about again is an example of a substantive argument - a substantive issue, that the American people should be concerned about - and his phrasing is a distraction from what is at stake.'
________
Follow me on Twitter here
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 16, 2012, 01:07:39 PM
http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/08/americas-first-black-governor-tells-joe-biden-slavery-is-nothing-to-joke-about.html




America's first black governor tells Joe Biden: 'Slavery is nothing to joke about.’America’s first black governor in modern times has become the most senior Democrat to break ranks over Joe Biden’s ‘y’all in chains’ comments, telling the Vice President: 'Slavery is nothing to joke about.'

Douglas Wilder, who was governor of Virginia from 1990 to 1994 and the first black governor since Reconstruction, told CNN that 'without question' Biden’s remarks in Danville, Virginia (though the veep seemed to think he was in North Carolina) 'were appeals to race'.

He continued: 'The important thing I got out of this was Biden separated himself from what he accused the people of doing. As a matter of fact, what he said is they are going to do something to y’all, not to me. Not us. So he was still involved with that separate American.

'As far as I am concerned, the President would not associate himself with those remarks. And I expect as the days go forward there will be more clarity associated with what the president feels about what Joe Biden said.

Douglas Wilder: no fan of Joe Biden (Photo - AP)

In another interview, with Fox News, Wilder said: 'Slavery is nothing to joke about. And the history of this nation’s involvement with slavery is nothing to pass off in a joke.'

Suggesting that Biden was a liability to Obama, he added that 'you can’t continue to make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe and believe that it’s going to be supportive of what you and the president are both trying to do'.

At the Danville rally, where large numbers of black supporters were present, Biden said: 'Look at what they [Republicans] value, and look at their budget. And look what they’re proposing.

'He [Romney] said in the first 100 days he’s going to let the big banks write their own rules, unchain Wall Street. They’re going to put y’all back in chains.'

Wilder said on CNN that it had long been his view that Obama, as suggested by Sarah Palin on Tuesday, should dump Biden and adopt Hillary Clinton as his vice-presidential running mate.

'If Hillary were on that ticket today based on the job she’s done as Secretary of State, I think that would be a clearer advantage the president would be seeing.

'It’s not going to happen. It’s too late. I think she’ll be getting herself together for 2016. But that doesn’t help the president today. What the president need to do it disassociate himself from trying to show anybody that division is what this administration is about as some may have said, "cool it, back up".'

Artur Davis, a black former congressman who was one of President Barack Obama’s most prominent supporters in 2008, told CNN that Biden was employing 'a divisive tactic that’s insulting to African Americans'.

The comments, he charged, were a deliberate racial tactic. 'I know what Joe Biden was doing. Every black person in that room knew who the "y'all" was. They knew what the chains were. They knew what the metaphor was about.'


So far, Obama has stuck by Biden - he has little other option - though he was visibly uncomfortable when asked about the remarks by People magazine and Entertainment Tonight during what were doubtless intended by the Obama campaign to be feelgood, softball interviews.

The President told People that Biden wanted to say that consumers would be worse off if Republicans succeeded in doing away with new restraints on financial institutions.

'In no sense was he trying to connote something other than that.'

He told Entertainment Tonight: 'You know, the country’s not as divided or obsessed with gaffes or some stray remark as Washington is.

'What Joe Biden was talking about again is an example of a substantive argument - a substantive issue, that the American people should be concerned about - and his phrasing is a distraction from what is at stake.'
________
Follow me on Twitter here

Told ya the victimhood would come, even though what Biden said was perfectly fine and coincides with the true history, instead of the Liberal revisionist history that everyone is spoon fed.
Title: Re: "Republicans will put Y'All back in Chains"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 20, 2012, 07:10:18 PM
Bump for liberal double standards.