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Guesses anyone? I'm expecting her to interrupt Mittens even more often than Raddatz did Ryan.
Over/under on how many lies/talking points Obama drops while offering no concrete plans or ideas tonight? I'm going with 38.
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I think she got enough bad press for what she said before the debate, shit that went against the agreed rules, that she won't cross the rules and will sit back for the most part. Both campaigns said, "hey wtf" over the shit she said. I'm guessing she will play it safe after the bad press.
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First answer and this is already a done deal.
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I don't like this format.
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I don't like this format.
Agreed. I'm already bored, to be honest. The last debate was much more interesting.
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Agree.d I'm already bored, to be honest. The last debate was much more interesting.
This sounds like two pandering car salesman to pathetic dolts in the audience
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This sounds like two pandering car salesman to pathetic dolts in the audience
Yup. I've yet to hear a single statement that wasn't an idiot talking point.
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Are they both reading off the teleprompter ???
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Romney's landing a solid punch on this gas question. Obama caught lying through his teeth.
Are they both reading off the teleprompter ???
Might as well be.
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kinda makes attempting honesty hard when someone pops up in the first 5 minutes of the debate and calls it lost for Obama ::)
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Romney's landing a solid punch on this gas question. Obama caught lying through his teeth.
Might as well be.
Yes. Romney is hitting his stride - obama spouting more nonsense,
Wants that kid after college to go into a factory. LOL!!!!
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kinda makes attempting honesty hard when someone pops up in the first 5 minutes of the debate and calls it lost for Obama ::)
You see the other thread for Romney losing, dipshit? I was being facetious, retard. ::)
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Yes. Romney is hitting his stride - obama spouting more nonsense,
Wants that kid after college to go into a factory. LOL!!!!
This sounds like bunch of campaign speeches so far....I wouldn't even call it a town hall format
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kinda makes attempting honesty hard when someone pops up in the first 5 minutes of the debate and calls it lost for Obama ::)
Obama said demand for oil is both down and up in the same 5 minutes. LOL!!!
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Oh shit, CAT FIGHT!
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Obama laying the smackdown.
Romney getting called out this time.
I think Mitt's gonna start crying.
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Obama laying the smackdown.
Romney getting called out this time.
I think Mitt's gonna start crying.
Obama is getting embarrassed on this question.
He sounds pretty petty and childish.
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This sounds like bunch of campaign speeches so far....I wouldn't even call it a town hall format
This is very strange
Hopefully a street fight ensues
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Are they both reading off the teleprompter ???
Sometimes looks like Obama is ???
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Bout time they started arguing..... ;D
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This is very strange
Hopefully a street fight ensues
I'd be OK with a 12-round boxing match to decide the presidency.
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Why is this moderator allowed to ask her own personal questions?
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Why is this moderator allowed to ask her own personal questions?
Because she's a fat attention whore.
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As I said on Benny's thread (he'll probably disappear within the next half hour),
Second verse, same as the first: Romney is getting medieval on Obama!!
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I'd be OK with a 12-round boxing match to decide the presidency.
What a bizarre format.
Obama is full of shit though.
His admn was held in contempt for fucks sake for not approving permits!
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Because she's a fat attention whore.
she's just a big boned vegetarian.
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You see the other thread for Romney losing, dipshit? I was being facetious, retard. ::)
no I didn't see it, sorry. kinda stupid, but ok. I get it.
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no I didn't see it, sorry. kinda stupid, but ok. I get it.
This format SUCKS!
I would prefer something like making these guys take the stand for cross examination by a skilled trial lawyer.
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These guys have to make sure they don't let their adrenaline get the best of them.
they're both way too fired up.
romney facial expressions perfect, he's been studying reagan video.
obama way way more aggressive in this one.
romney had the facts on that energy Q. He's reiterating "I will not reduce share paid by the upper income people".
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Barry the Bomber coming off as a little too aggressive and childish in an attempt to reestablish the belief that he's not a gigantic pussy.
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they're both way too fired up.
romney facial expressions perfect, he's been studying reagan video.
obama way way more aggressive in this one.
romney had the facts on that energy Q. He's reiterating "I will not reduce share paid by the upper income people".
Obama is spouting more of the same old bs. Same crap over and over and over and over and over. blah blah blah blah
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This format SUCKS!
I would prefer something like making these guys take the stand for cross examination by a skilled trial lawyer.
I'd like to see a format where Rachel Maddow asks Romney a Q and they go back and forth for 3 minutes. Ownage.
Then Mark levin gets to ask Obama a Q, and grill him for 3 minutes. More ownage.
That'd be awesome.
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I'd like to see a format where Rachel Maddow asks Romney a Q and they go back and forth for 3 minutes. Ownage.
Then Mark levin gets to ask Obama a Q, and grill him for 3 minutes. More ownage.
That'd be awesome.
Someone on some board proposed an interesting idea:
One moderator chosen by Obama, one by Romney and one decided on by both sides. Would be much more entertaining.
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Someone on some board proposed an interesting idea:
One moderator chosen by Obama. One by Romney and one decided on by both sides. Would be much more entertaining.
Agreed - this format is awful.
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Agreed - this format is awful.
Yeah, for Romney maybe.
Getting spanked.
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Yeah, for Romney maybe.
Getting spanked.
Keep repeating it and it might come true. ::)
The uneducated, TEFL goon is so desperate for something to praise Obama for.
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Someone on some board proposed an interesting idea:
One moderator chosen by Obama. One by Romney and one decided on by both sides. Would be much more entertaining.
but even then, for their own 'credibility', the moderators would claim to be fair.
I want to have a fully prepared Maddow, ready to demolish Romney.
I want wise man/venom machine Levin pointing out all the logic flaws in Obama's claims.
I want to see that... the moderators would still try to be polite. I want to see how these men react UNDER PRESSURE. They won't have candy "340 or bust" Crowley running Russia when shit gets hectic, they'll be facing Putin.
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Yeah, for Romney maybe.
Getting spanked.
Whatever. Obama is spouting same old bs over and over and over and over. Only thing he has not said yet - "You didnt build that"
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I can't take it anymore, Obama just starts throwing numbers out there with no basis in reality
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Whatever. Obama is spouting same old bs over and over and over and over. Only thing he has not said yet - "You didnt build that"
Neither one of these guys is impressive tonight. I'm honestly tempted to turn it off.
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Somebody tell Romney what to do with his hands. Even I'm starting to feel sorry for him.
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Neither one of these guys is impressive tonight. I'm honestly tempted to turn it off.
only problem is that the yankee game is horrible too.
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Somebody tell Romney what to do with his hands. Even I'm starting to feel sorry for him.
LOL - im sure you felt the same way w biden - look how that worked out. LOL!!!!
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only problem is that the yankee game is horrible too.
Stopped watching them when Jeter went down. Their season ended there.
LOL - im sure you felt the same way w biden - look how that worked out. LOL!!!!
Swing state independent voters actually overwhelmingly called Ryan the winner.
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This is almost unfair. Romney is slicing Obama to RIBBONS. Every talking point Obama puts up, Romney mows down.
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Romney should point out how women working in the Obama White House actually make 18% less than their male counterparts. Can you imagine the blow that would be?
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I can't take it anymore, Obama just starts throwing numbers out there with no basis in reality
That's the entire Romney platform.
Be serious.
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Romney should point out how women working in the Obama White House actually make 18% less than their male counterparts. Can you imagine the blow that would be?
Isnt it sad that we know more than him!
WTF!
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at 9:34, the "governor, running your business, you would never have accepted such a sketchy deal... and neither should you, america".
Btural line from obama there.
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That's the entire Romney platform.
Be serious.
You be serious, So far I have heard 5 million jobs then heard something about 23 million jobs
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Romney just answered great on the womens' job question. He nailed this one cold.
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You be serious, So far I have heard 5 million jobs then heard something about 23 million jobs
Gaybear is an incredibly stupid drone.
Isnt it sad that we know more than him!
WTF!
All politicians are nothing more than talking points.
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If Romney's wife is nice to him, he will let her live on his planet after he dies.
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If Romney's wife is nice to him, he will let her live on his planet after he dies.
Why are you such a disgusting, intolerant bigot?
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At this point, I'm expecting Obama to ask, Can we all just get along?
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Obama trying really hard to win back all the women he's lost over the last few weeks.
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Why are you such a disgusting, intolerant bigot?
There is a thread on him being a pedo on G & O. Garebear is the next SMM - count on it
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There is a thread on him being a pedo on G & O. Garebear is the next SMM - count on it
It would explain why he moved to China. Most of those TEFL men are usually up to no good. :-\
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LOL - an undecided voter.
What a farce
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LOL - an undecided voter.
What a farce
LOL! What a plant!
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Obama trying really hard to win back all the women he's lost over the last few weeks.
And, he's failing miserably. Notice how any time Romney gets a question, he answered it with clarity and then TURNS RIGHT ON OBAMA and BASHES him with his record. As long as he keeps this up, Obama has no chance.
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And, he's failing miserably. Notice how any time Romney gets a question, he answered it with clarity and then TURNS RIGHT ON OBAMA and BASHES him with his record. As long as he keeps this up, Obama has no chance.
Don't think so....and Romney messed up although most people won't notice. What family has a mutual or savings account can generate sufficient interest .... ::)
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Haha! Brother says he's not as optimistic as he was in 2012.
Yeah - that was telling.
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LOL - an undecided voter.
What a farce
Yea...bunch for fucking bullshit....its embarrassing that they are calling it a "town hall format". Its just a bunch of staged props if you ask me
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Bill Maher
Not cool: after Obama and Romney cross paths on stage, Romney checks for his wallet
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They'd better start talking about Obamacare and Medicare/Medicaid pretty soon.
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Bill Maher
Not cool: after Obama and Romney cross paths on stage, Romney checks for his wallet
I would too! Obama is a grifter!
BTW - did you ever address the Pedo thread about you?
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They'd better start talking about Obamacare and Medicare/Medicaid pretty soon.
This format is horrible.
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I think I picked up this Osario chick at the Herpes Triangle (or someone just like her). Haha!
;D
There are some great comments in this thread tonight.
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Obama is getting a little too loose out there a bit but he's coming pretty hard this time. He's doing great out there and getting his points across
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They can't get the immigrants name right ;D
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Holy shit, did Romney just check his pockets for his wallet after he passed Obama!!!! Wonder if anyone noticed that shit.... ;D
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Obama is getting a little too loose out there a bit but he's coming pretty hard this time. He's doing great out there and getting his points across
nobody will accuse obama of being a quiet little bitch/wimp this time. he's coming at romney bigtime.
we can argue whose points are more valid, but they're both attacking. Romney very abrasive to that moderator.
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Obama just said "gangbanger". Everybody do a shot.
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Obama bringing his daughters into it again?
Fuck you obama you racist thug and ghetto piece of shit
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nobody will accuse obama of being a quiet little bitch/wimp this time. he's coming at romney bigtime.
we can argue whose points are more valid, but they're both attacking. Romney very abrasive to that moderator.
Good policy of putting fat sluts in their place.
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Bill Maher
Not cool: after Obama and Romney cross paths on stage, Romney checks for his wallet
LOL.
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Holy shit, did Romney just check his pockets for his wallet after he passed Obama!!!! Wonder if anyone noticed that shit.... ;D
Romney: Hey, you took my wallet!
Obama: Oh, my bad. Here, here you go.
Romney: [Puts wallet back in pocket. Looks at his watch. It's missing]. Sonofabitch!
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Smartly like gangbangers ???
::)
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Holy shit, did Romney just check his pockets for his wallet after he passed Obama!!!! Wonder if anyone noticed that shit.... ;D
I hope he did.
I wouldnt trust obama around anything not nailed to the floor
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I hope he did.
I wouldnt trust obama around anything not nailed to the floor
Doing that live on national TV is not a great idea.
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STFU Obama - you went to a fucking fundraiser in las vegas while the embassy was under attack!!!!
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LMFAO, was asked point blank who declined the request and why and didnt even hit on it.
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Great question Kerry!!!
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STFU Obama - you went to a fucking fundraiser in las vegas while the embassy was under attack!!!!
So Obama knew about the attack in advance????
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So Obama knew about the attack in advance????
He knew about it while it was underway!
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What a liar!
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visually, at 10:10.... Obama looking cool and spry. Romney has baggy eyes and is sweating.
Light isn't friendly to him tonight. Role reversal from the first debate, when romney looked great and obama looked tired.
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I hear Obama loves the cock.
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I'm a bit behind, because I recorded the debate. But, now the top is LIBYA. As if Obama's beatings couldn't get any worse.
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visually, at 10:10.... Obama looking cool and spry. Romney has baggy eyes and is sweating.
Light isn't friendly to him tonight. Role reversal from the first debate, when romney looked great and obama looked tired.
You're very hard on Obama on this board
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He knew about it while it was underway!
I don't think news travels that fast....even to the President. This wasn't a plane flying into a fucking building. ::)
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I don't think news travels that fast....even to the President. This wasn't a plane flying into a fucking building. ::)
Bullshit!!!
They had a live feed of the attack from a drone!!!
Obama is such a fucking lying ghetto thug.
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Obama up over 5 min
wtf? Answer the damn question, quit babbling and move on!
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Bullshit!!!
They had a live feed of the attack from a drone!!!
Obama is such a fucking lying ghetto thug.
Drone cameras are monitored by the pilots that fly them....even then I doubt a fuzzy image from a drone would have given an idea what was going on.
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Drone cameras are monitored by the pilots that fly them....even then I doubt a fuzzy image from a drone would have given an idea what was going on.
Not true at all - Obama lied his fucking ass off.
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Not true at all - Obama lied his fucking ass off.
So the drones fly by themselves...eh ::)
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So the drones fly by themselves...eh ::)
No there was a live feed from a drone as well as a plane.
Obama lied his fucking ass off on lybia.
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No there was a live feed from a drone as well as a plane.
Obama lied his fucking ass off on lybia.
Really??? so Obama somehow not only managed to know about the attack in advance but to actually tune into the drone and planes......the protest may had been going on all day but the attack only lasted about 10 minutes.
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Really??? so Obama somehow not only managed to know about the attack in advance but to actually tune into the drone and planes......the protest may had been going on all day but the attack only lasted about 10 minutes.
33 initially had that "let it happen" mentality.
but LIHOP happens do the prez has a big attack to point to for some political agenda - obama DOWNPLAYED the attack.
So that "obama wanted this attack" narrative kinda went away.
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Really??? so Obama somehow not only managed to know about the attack in advance but to actually tune into the drone and planes......the protest may had been going on all day but the attack only lasted about 10 minutes.
WTH are you talking about? ::)
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Really??? so Obama somehow not only managed to know about the attack in advance but to actually tune into the drone and planes......the protest may had been going on all day but the attack only lasted about 10 minutes.
STFU - so again the empty chair is so detached from what is going on that he has no idea when an embassy is under attack that he goes to vegas and the view for fundraising?
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STFU - so again the empty chair is so detached from what is going on that he has no idea when an embassy is under attack that he goes to vegas and the view for fundraising?
Pwnt.
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Obama nailing him on 47 percent remark.
Long overdue.
Good stuff.
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Did Obama do enough to reverse Romney's momentum and the numbers? I don't think so.
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STFU - so again the empty chair is so detached from what is going on that he has no idea when an embassy is under attack that he goes to vegas and the view for fundraising?
So what do you suppose he should have done??? Better yet, what do you think Romney would have done different??
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Did Obama do enough to reverse Romney's momentum and the numbers? I don't think so.
I don't think it makes any difference....personally I think these poll numbers are all mixed up for the benefit of people turning in and going to the news websites....Seems way too coordinated if you ask me...
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So what do you suppose he should have done??? Better yet, what do you think Romney would have done different??
How about this ghetto 94er lazy drug addicted welfare layabout stsy in DC and do his job before hanging w jay z and going on the view?
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IMO Obama won this debate. My bullshit meter went high several times but I think the better impression given was from Obama and I suspect the press will follow with that saying the president did what he needed to do and won this debate.
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So what do you suppose he should have done??? Better yet, what do you think Romney would have done different??
How about stay and do your fucking job!!!!!
TYPICAL 94er attitude you have.
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IMO Obama won this debate. My bullshit meter went high several times but I think the better impression given was from Obama and I suspect the press will follow with that saying the president did what he needed to do and won this debate.
I think it was a wash and I don't think Obama did nearly enough to stop Romney's momentum. Guess time will tell.
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IMO Obama won this debate. My bullshit meter went high several times but I think the better impression given was from Obama and I suspect the press will follow with that saying the president did what he needed to do and won this debate.
Other than obama lied his ass off over and over and over and over
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Did Obama do enough to reverse Romney's momentum and the numbers? I don't think so.
I actually think he did. Romney was coming off of his bump already and Obama was starting to rebound before coming into this. This was a debate format that favored Obama and he showed up for it clearly. My guess is you're wrong and the president bumps back up over Romney now.
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How about this ghetto 94er lazy drug addicted welfare layabout stsy in DC and do his job before hanging w jay z and going on the view?
He was just eye candy ::)
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I think it was a wash and I don't think Obama did nearly enough to stop Romney's momentum. Guess time will tell.
yea, I might be wrong. Just my opinion. I'm just trying to judge between two people who I don't want for president and just trying to be honest with my opinion. Others here have made it clear they are not willing to be honest. Debate wise, I think Obama won this.
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How about this ghetto 94er lazy drug addicted welfare layabout stsy in DC and do his job before hanging w jay z and going on the view?
Jay Z and the TV show "The View" is in New York....and again, he was in Vegas prior to the attack
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I actually think he did. Romney was coming off of his bump already and Obama was starting to rebound before coming into this. This was a debate format that favored Obama and he showed up for it clearly. My guess is you're wrong and the president bumps back up over Romney now.
So tell me - after watching tonight - what is obamas plan for the next 4 years again?
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He was just eye candy ::)
Obama voters like vince want eye candy. Remember - Vince is a fag and probavbly has a crush on obama
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yea, I might be wrong. Just my opinion. I'm just trying to judge between two people who I don't want for president and just trying to be honest with my opinion. Others here have made it clear they are not willing to be honest.
Understandable.
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Crowley caught flat-out lying about Obama's comments the day after the Benghazi attack:
THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.
Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We’re working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I’ve also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people. [...]
Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.
As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
— President Obama, Rose Garden statement, Sept. 12
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya
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Jay Z and the TV show "The View" is in New York....and again, he was in Vegas prior to the attack
STFU - don't you tire of being s typical dumb ass 94er?
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So tell me - after watching tonight - what is obamas plan for the next 4 years again?
I judged the debate, not the facts. I approached my viewing of this the same way I did the first debate, knowing most voters are not fully informed. I thought Romney won the first debate and put aside what I thought was bullshit when I made that call. On this debate, I heard bullshit too, but that's not what I was looking for. Obama won this. Now who wins the fact checking after tonight is beyond my opinion in this thread.
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1. Lied about Libya
2. Lied about drilling
3. Lied about permits for drilling
4. Lied about the deficit
5. Lied about the cause of the crash
6. Lied about gas prices
7. Lied about immigration
Many more to come.
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I also think he made his plan for the next 4 years clear in his answers. I personally call bullshit on most of it, but that's not what matters in perception of who wins a debate.
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I judged the debate, not the facts. I approached my viewing of this the same way I did the first debate, knowing most voters are not fully informed. I thought Romney won the first debate and put aside what I thought was bullshit when I made that call. On this debate, I heard bullshit too, but that's not what I was looking for. Obama won this. Now who wins the fact checking after tonight is beyond my opinion in this thread.
Obama lied no less than 7 times as far as I can tell. Total lies and cliche meant for his delusional base of cult members and drones.
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Obama lied no less than 7 times as far as I can tell. Total lies and cliche meant for his delusional base of cult members and drones.
well, don't tell me about it, it's not my fault. To me it looked like Obama won the debate. You probably think the same way. You also know this format favored him which is probably why you were saying you hate it. None of that is my fault. I'm just calling it like I see it. How this plays out on the net and in the media will determine the outcome. I suspect the media will favor Obama but will nail him on some of the fact checking. Obama was starting to bounce back after the first debate so I think we'll see a bit more in that direction.
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Obama was allowed to speak 10% longer than Romney.
44:04 to 40:50
Not to mention Crowley's constant interrupting of Romney and her outright lie of a fact-check on the Benghazi statement.
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well, don't tell me about it, it's not my fault. To me it looked like Obama won the debate. You probably think the same way. You also know this format favored him which is probably why you were saying you hate it. None of that is my fault. I'm just calling it like I see it. How this plays out on the net and in the media will determine the outcome. I suspect the media will favor Obama but will nail him on some of the fact checking. Obama was starting to bounce back after the first debate so I think we'll see a bit more in that direction.
If someone does not know the facts sure they like the lied obama told
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Obama was allowed to speak 10% longer than Romney.
44:04 to 40:50
Not to mention Crowley's constant interrupting of Romney and her outright lie of a fact-check on the Benghazi statement.
Crowley definately interupted romney more than obama. Noticed that many many times.
Regardless - obama's lies over the next few days will be the story from this debate.
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well, don't tell me about it, it's not my fault. To me it looked like Obama won the debate. You probably think the same way. You also know this format favored him which is probably why you were saying you hate it. None of that is my fault. I'm just calling it like I see it. How this plays out on the net and in the media will determine the outcome. I suspect the media will favor Obama but will nail him on some of the fact checking. Obama was starting to bounce back after the first debate so I think we'll see a bit more in that direction.
Yea, the moderator however stepped in and corrected Romney regarding the Libya attack. Romney may have been lying but she's suppose to be a neutral party and should have let Obama take care of that.
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Yea, the moderator however stepped in and corrected Romney regarding the Libya attack. Romney may have been lying but she's suppose to be a neutral party and should have let Obama take care of that.
She flat-out lied. Obama did not call it a terrorist attack in his statement.
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Yea, the moderator however stepped in and corrected Romney regarding the Libya attack. Romney may have been lying but she's suppose to be a neutral party and should have let Obama take care of that.
STFU - obama lied his ass off again and again and again and again
Like a typical 94er - you buy into every lie told by a fellow 94er.
Shame on you
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She flat-out lied. Obama did not call it a terrorist attack in his statement.
Actually he did but the point I was making was that the moderator should have stayed neutral in this debate
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Crowley's False Fact Check Saves President, Derails Debate
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by John Nolte16 Oct 2012, 7:49 PM PDT48post a comment
We're done with the second presidential debate, but it was apparent 45 minutes in that between the questions Crowley chose and her handling of who was allowed to speak and when, that this debate was a total and complete set up to rehabilitate Barack Obama. If these are truly undecided voters, they're apparently undecided between Obama and Green Party. Moreover, as I write this, Obama's already enjoyed four more minutes of speaking time than Romney. In a ninety-minute debate, that's a big deal.
The lowest and most dishonest part Crowley's disgraceful "moderation" was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama's side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover, he claimed he had called the attack a "terrorist attack" on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.
Romney correctly disputed that.
Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama's side and the crowd exploded.
Here's what Obama said that day:
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.
Context matters and the context here is that Obama connected this "act of terror" to … a mob action over a YouTube video -- not a deliberate terrorist attack. Obama was using the term generically and it would be almost two weeks before he used it again.
Let's not forget that Susan Rice said declaratively on the five Sunday shows four days later that it was NOT an act of terror.
And during those two weeks the Obama administration lied like a rug. For Crowley to step in and attempt to correct Romney on a statement that is at best arguable, was completely out of line. The debate over this debate has only begun.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Crowley-Saves-Obama-with-false-fact-check
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Sorry, Candy, Obama Didn’t Call Benghazi A Terrorist Attack In Speech….
Tonight’s debate moderator Candy Crowley tried to fact check Romney and claim Obama did indeed call Benghazi a terror attack the next day. Here’s the text from Obama’s Rose Garden speech the day after the attack:
THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.
Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We’re working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I’ve also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people. [...]
Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.
As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
— President Obama, Rose Garden statement, Sept. 12
Alana Goodman breaks this down better than I can in this September 30th article:
Obama said during the speech that “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation” — but at no point was it clear that he was using that term to describe the attack in Benghazi. He’d also spent the previous two paragraphs discussing the 9/11 attacks and the aftermath. “Acts of terror” could have just as easily been a reference to that. Or maybe it wasn’t a direct reference to anything, just a generic, reassuring line he’d added into a speech which did take place, after all, the day after the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Here’s the line with some additional context
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Jay Z and the TV show "The View" is in New York....and again, he was in Vegas prior to the attack
WRONG! He was in Vegas on September 12 - AFTER learning of the attack the previous evening.
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http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/16/sorry-candy-obama-didnt-call-benghazi-a-terrorist-attack-in-speech/
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Obama gets more time
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By BYRON TAU |
10/16/12 10:47 PM EDT
Amid persistent complaints and interruptions from both candidates, President Obama ultimately got more than three extra minutes of speaking time than Mitt Romney during Tuesday's debate.
(PHOTOS: The in-your-face debate | Also on POLITICO: Crowley defies contract, asks questions)
According to CNN's timekeeping, Obama got 44:04 minutes of speaking time, while Romney got 40:50.
Both candidates pressed the moderator Candy Crowley — sometimes aggressively — into allowing additional responses and back-and-forth exchanges.
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Romney seems to do well, even in handicap matches, which this basically was.
Now, you see why the left was so mad at the moderator from the first debate. He just stood by and watch Obama get pounded.
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If someone does not know the facts sure they like the lied obama told
yea and so? As if Mitt is telling the truth to the middle class? For what he wants to work he has no choice but to cut their deductions to the point that they end up with a higher burden. You know it, I know it, but that's not the impression he's giving with what he is saying.
Last week you sat here on this board and told me straight up that you're ok with Romney lying to win, that's just politics right... lol... Ok, fine, but you can't one week tell me that and the next week cry fucking foul over the same thing not going your way ::)
and yea, that's a good fucking point ;)
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Obama gets more time
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By BYRON TAU |
10/16/12 10:47 PM EDT
Amid persistent complaints and interruptions from both candidates, President Obama ultimately got more than three extra minutes of speaking time than Mitt Romney during Tuesday's debate.
(PHOTOS: The in-your-face debate | Also on POLITICO: Crowley defies contract, asks questions)
According to CNN's timekeeping, Obama got 44:04 minutes of speaking time, while Romney got 40:50.
Both candidates pressed the moderator Candy Crowley — sometimes aggressively — into allowing additional responses and back-and-forth exchanges.
So what???
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So what???
More time to spew his BS ::)
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You gotta love how this plays out....
WHAT?
Obama loses and the left admit it all over the fucking place. Even on this board, in the media, all over...
Romney loses and the right freaks with allegations....
nice...
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You gotta love how this plays out....
WHAT?
Obama loses and the left admit it all over the fucking place. Even on this board, in the media, all over...
Romney loses and the right freaks with allegations....
nice...
I dont think Romney lost. I think it was a draw considering ridiculous favortisim for obama
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Obama is getting embarrassed on this question.
He sounds pretty petty and childish.
lol...
youre awesome
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lol...
youre awesome
Obama spewed the same talking points and excuses he always does. Nothing new whatsoever.
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I dont think Romney lost. I think it was a draw considering ridiculous favortisim for obama
If 3333 calls this a draw, that translates to a landslide victory for Obama lol.... waaaa.... waaaaa... on your second part.
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yea and so? As if Mitt is telling the truth to the middle class? For what he wants to work he has no choice but to cut their deductions to the point that they end up with a higher burden. You know it, I know it, but that's not the impression he's giving with what he is saying.
Last week you sat here on this board and told me straight up that you're ok with Romney lying to win, that's just politics right... lol... Ok, fine, but you can't one week tell me that and the next week cry fucking foul over the same thing not going your way ::)
and yea, that's a good fucking point ;)
You wanna talk about this 3333?
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If 3333 calls this a draw, that translates to a landslide victory for Obama lol.... waaaa.... waaaaa... on your second part.
LOL - the next few days - just like after biden - will be on obama's lies and distoritions.
You obama voting stupid fucking delusional drones and incompetent imbecils will be begging for more kleenex 5 days from now.
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lol...
youre awesome
A Ron Paul fan rushing to Obama's rescue. That's even more awesome.
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STFU - obama lied his ass off again and again and again and again
Like a typical 94er - you buy into every lie told by a fellow 94er.
Shame on you
lol
unlike you right?
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lol
unlike you right?
Obama's lies and his trained monkeys dance in glee. TYPICAL of the 94ers who would go back into slavery if their god king obama requested it
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A Ron Paul fan rushing to Obama's rescue. That's even more awesome.
how did i RUSH to anyones rescue...
because im not saying FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UU OOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBAAA AAAAAAMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAA !!!!
Dude im an adult.
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Romney missed a opportunity to hold OB to the fire when OB didn't directly answer the question about security in Benghazi.
why?
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Obama's lies and his trained monkeys dance in glee. TYPICAL of the 94ers who would go back into slavery if their god king obama requested it
and romney always tells the truth
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and romney always tells the truth
yes :P
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Romney missed a opportunity to hold OB to the fire when OB didn't directly answer the question about security in Benghazi.
why?
What opportunity? The damn moderator let him drone on overtime and stepped all over Mitt.
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You wanna talk about this 3333?
I didn't think so....
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I didn't think so....
talk about what? Obama lied his fucking ass off time and time again,
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yes :P
of course
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What opportunity? The damn moderator let him drone on overtime and stepped all over Mitt.
Mitt got the run over on time the first debate, Obama did on the second... yea, and?
it was bias this time but just cool as beens for Mitt?
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Mitt got the run over on time the first debate, Obama did on the second... yea, and?
Crowly just admitted she was wrong for what she did. These leftist pigs just cant help themselves
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talk about what? Obama lied his fucking ass off time and time again,
Notice a pattern here. The libs claim Romney lied, after Obama got pounded the first debate. Yet, they can't back that up.
Obama lies about Benghazi; within SECONDS the video proof that he didn't officially call the attack an act of terror, despite being asked directly on Univision and on "The View".
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Crowly just admitted she was wrong for what she did. These leftist pigs just cant help themselves
admitted what was wrong? What exactly did she say. The way you're posing it comes off like she's addmitting to being wrong for everything you're accusing her of. Post it.
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admitted what was wrong? What exactly did she say. The way you're posing it comes off like she's addmitting to being wrong for everything you're accusing her of. Post it.
She admitted she was wrong about what she said to romney about obamas statements on libya the day after the attack
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this is gonna be the funny part
OK..the repubs on the board that cited all the polls in the first debate that said Romney will now discredit the same polls when they say Obama won..
I dont think anyone won.. it was just funny tho
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It is kinda shocking that the left totally admitted to Obama losing but the right is flipping out crying foul when Obama did good debate wise. That's some sad shit but whatever.
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this is gonna be the funny part
OK..the repubs on the board that cited all the polls in the first debate that said Romney will now discredit the same polls when they say Obama won..
I dont think anyone won.. it was just funny tho
http://freebeacon.com/candy-crowley-he-was-right
Crowley admits romney was right
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She admitted she was wrong about what she said to romney about obamas statements on libya the day after the attack
that's better. The way you said it before wasn't cool.
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It is kinda shocking that the left totally admitted to Obama losing but the right is flipping out crying foul when Obama did good debate wise. That's some sad shit but whatever.
Read it and weep
http://freebeacon.com/candy-crowley-he-was-right
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Read it and weep
http://freebeacon.com/candy-crowley-he-was-right
no thanks... I believe you and why the hell would I weep over it ::)
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And she's going to eat shit for that and that could cost Obama in what's talked about the next day so you should thank her for the fuck up lol.
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obama won ccn poll sorry right
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And she's going to eat shit for that and that could cost Obama in what's talked about the next day so you should thank her for the fuck up lol.
No doubt - but his lies on energy will get equal play.
BTW CNN says Romney won 58-40 on the economy and Luntz group said romney won big
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/16/luntz_focus_group_of_mostly_former_obama_voters_switch_to_romney.html
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obama won the debate ;D 333386 spinning his tires :D :D :D
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No doubt - but his lies on energy will get equal play.
BTW CNN says Romney won 58-40 on the economy and Luntz group said romney won big
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/16/luntz_focus_group_of_mostly_former_obama_voters_switch_to_romney.html
I like your strategy of only replying to my posts that you are comfy with but totally ignoring the ones you have no answer for. lol... gee, I should have thought of that myself....
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I dont think Romney lost. I think it was a draw considering ridiculous favortisim for obama
I'd say obama won by a small margin. The same people that gave romney and ryan the win, think so too.
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I like your strategy of only replying to my posts that you are comfy with but totally ignoring the ones you have no answer for. lol... gee, I should have thought of that myself....
I wa piling on.
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obama won the debate ;D 333386 spinning his tires :D :D :D
Doesn't mean he will win the election, of course.
But he did spike 2 points on intrade, back up to 63% chance.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/misc/scoreboard/
this election gonna be a close one.
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What opportunity? The damn moderator let him drone on overtime and stepped all over Mitt.
No. Mitt still had a ample opportunity right after OB didn't answer the question and it was mitts turn to talk. All he had to do was say: You never directly answered the question Mr. President. and then turn and look art the crowd for undeniable acknowledgement.
totally missed opportunity.
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I'd say obama won by a small margin. The same people that gave romney and ryan the win, think so too.
But, herein lies the rub. And that's why I said that Obama was given the win, simply for showing up and parroting his talking points with passion.
Thirty-seven percent of 525 uncommitted voters who watched the debate declared Obama the winner in a CBS News poll, compared to 30 percent who said the same of Romney. Thirty-three percent said it was a tie. A CNN poll of 457 registered voters also gave the debate to the president,by a margin of 46 percent to 39 percent.
The CBS News poll had a margin of error of 4 percent, and the CNN poll was 4.5 percent.
Despite Obama’s slight edge overall, Romney was seen as better able to handle most issues. The trend was most notable in the CNN poll: he had an 18-point edge among registered voters on the economy (58 percent Romney, 40 percent Obama), a 3-point edge on health care (49 percent Romney, 46 percent Obama), a 7-point edge on taxes (51 percent Romney, 44 percent Obama), and, largest of all, a 23 percent edge on the deficit (59 percent Romney, 36 percent Obama). Obama’s only lead was on foreign policy, where a slim margin of 2 percent of registered voters who watched the debate said he would handle the issue better (49 percent Obama, 47 percent Romney).
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/obama-ekes-out-a-win-in-post-debate-polls-20121017
Exactly HOW do you poll on FIVE topics, have Romney win on FOUR of them (including and especially the most important topic of this election campaign), yet had Obama win the debate overall?
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Exactly HOW do you poll on FIVE topics, have Romney win on FOUR of them (including and especially the most important topic of this election campaign), yet had Obama win the debate overall?
it's possible to WIN on topics, and still look like shit doing it.
Ryan had way more valid points than Biden, but he sure didn't claim the "win". A tie at best, an inability to control the room at worst.
Romney had more valid points tonight, and Obama controlled the room a bit better. Obama dodged the fck out of the big embassy Q, but did a good job ending with that 47% thing
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Was “Undecided” Questioner Catherine Fenton Former Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island?
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | 10/16/2012 | Jim Lindgren
Posted on October 17, 2012 12:38:23 AM EDT by TBBT
How good was Gallup’s vetting of the questioners at the 2d Presidential debate held at Hofstra on Long Island?
One explicitly feminist question was asked by undecided voter Catherine Fenton:
And it’s Katherine Fenton, who has a question for you. QUESTION: In what new ways to [do] you intend to rectify the inequalities in the workplace, specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn?
By a strange coincidence, there happens to be a Catherine Fenton who in 2008 identified herself as the Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island.
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I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Outing the plants in the audience, that's AWESOME!!!
Code pink voter who is undecided.... Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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it's possible to WIN on topics, and still look like shit doing it.
Ryan had way more valid points than Biden, but he sure didn't claim the "win". A tie at best, an inability to control the room at worst.
Romney had more valid points tonight, and Obama controlled the room a bit better. Obama dodged the fck out of the big embassy Q, but did a good job ending with that 47% thing
Obama hardly controlled the room. The left wanted to see him spew the talking points; he did. This was predicted, long before the debate happened. So, while I'm not entirely surprised by this outcome, it is indeed strange for Romney to beat Obama in several categories, SMOKING HIM in the most important one, yet Obama is declared the winner.
If the needle doesn't move for Obama, in terms of the state-by-state and national polls, this "win" will be seen as hollow, to say the least. And, we'll know why.
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Was “Undecided” Questioner Catherine Fenton Former Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island?
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | 10/16/2012 | Jim Lindgren
Posted on October 17, 2012 12:38:23 AM EDT by TBBT
How good was Gallup’s vetting of the questioners at the 2d Presidential debate held at Hofstra on Long Island?
One explicitly feminist question was asked by undecided voter Catherine Fenton:
And it’s Katherine Fenton, who has a question for you. QUESTION: In what new ways to [do] you intend to rectify the inequalities in the workplace, specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn?
By a strange coincidence, there happens to be a Catherine Fenton who in 2008 identified herself as the Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island.
uh, as if the dream questions for your side didn't get asked lol.... Gun control, Fast and Furious and Benghazi scandal all given a way into the debate. stop crying lol
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Obama wins 37% to 30% in the CBS poll.
Still, with 30% of the nation "not sure", it's not much of a win.
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No. Mitt still had a ample opportunity right after OB didn't answer the question and it was mitts turn to talk. All he had to do was say: You never directly answered the question Mr. President. and then turn and look art the crowd for undeniable acknowledgement.
totally missed opportunity.
You're right. I just reran the DVR. He was a little too indirect in his first response, but Obama and Candy stepped all over him during the second part of that issue.
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uh, as if the dream questions for your side didn't get asked lol.... Gun control, Fast and Furious and Benghazi scandal all given a way into the debate. stop crying lol
Fast and Furious was brought up by Romney, but quickly squashed by the moderator because ~ "that wasn't the question"
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Obama wins 37% to 30% in the CBS poll.
Still, with 30% of the nation "not sure", it's not much of a win.
But, even in that poll, Romney crushes him on the economy, 65-35.
This backs up what I said earlier, that Obama was given the win simply for showing up and defending the leftie talking points with some zeal.
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But, even in that poll, Romney crushes him on the economy, 65-35.
This backs up what I said earlier, that Obama was given the win simply for showing up and defending the leftie talking points with some zeal.
If a candidate is very good at the economy, and frickin clueless on other issues...
it's like the illiterate kid that aces the math part of the SAT. He's still gonna fail the verbal.
Bottom line is that people respect mitt's economic wisdom, but he looked like a frustrated guy tonight, and obama didn't. If there was 1 hot chick moderating tonight, and they were both presenting their case.... Romney might have had the bigger d*ck, but Obama would have been the one taking her home.
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If a candidate is very good at the economy, and frickin clueless on other issues...
it's like the illiterate kid that aces the math part of the SAT. He's still gonna fail the verbal.
Bottom line is that people respect mitt's economic wisdom, but he looked like a frustrated guy tonight, and obama didn't. If there was 1 hot chick moderating tonight, and they were both presenting their case.... Romney might have had the bigger d*ck, but Obama would have been the one taking her home.
and laughing him right out of bed
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and laughing him right out of bed
True. But he just looked more graceful up there - even if he was selling bullshit all night.
I take what obama says as "fancy sounding words to avoid admitting I didn't improve things all that much over the last 4 years".
Tonight he had more gloss than Romney. Romney had way more gloss in debate #1. Tonight, obama looked slick and smooth (though he spewed crap) and ROmney looked awkward.
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If a candidate is very good at the economy, and frickin clueless on other issues...
it's like the illiterate kid that aces the math part of the SAT. He's still gonna fail the verbal.
Bottom line is that people respect mitt's economic wisdom, but he looked like a frustrated guy tonight, and obama didn't. If there was 1 hot chick moderating tonight, and they were both presenting their case.... Romney might have had the bigger d*ck, but Obama would have been the one taking her home.
Your analogy is pitiful. There were 5 sections to this test; Romney beat Obama on FOUR of them (including THE DOMINANT ISSUE of this campaign).
The lefties got their red meat. But, that's not going to get Obama re-elected. Obama won, simply because he didn't SUCK the way he did two weeks ago, pure and simple.
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Your analogy is pitiful. There were 5 sections to this test; Romney beat Obama on FOUR of them (including THE DOMINANT ISSUE of this campaign).
The lefties got their red meat. But, that's not going to get Obama re-elected. Obama won, simply because he didn't SUCK the way he did two weeks ago, pure and simple.
yep. bar was set low. But he won. you said it.
Debate #1 gave romney a bounce, but we'll see if it lasts. If romney had raped obama in front of the nation (again), we could have realized he's a bad MFer, and that obama is weak. What we learned tonight is that mitt lets obama get back up. And that obama gets back up.
He was an animal in debate #1, but tonight he was mechanical and awkward. Very good at podium, but when it comes to thinking on feet (literally) and talking to people, he's not so good at that.
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Fast and Furious was brought up by Romney, but quickly squashed by the moderator because ~ "that wasn't the question"
I wouldn't call this quickly squashed. Plus Obama also got shutdown on a few things too... Getting the following into the debate looked good to me. I sided here with 3333 on this issue and I still think at least Holder should be behind bars. Once Romney hit the; "I'd like to know why" point of what he was saying pretty much says he said what he wanted to get out on that.
"The greatest failure we’ve had with regards to -- to gun violence in some respects is what -- what is known as Fast and Furious. Which was a program under this administration, and how it worked exactly I think we don’t know precisely, where thousands of automatic, and AK-47 type weapons were -- were given to people that ultimately gave them to -- to drug lords.
They used those weapons against -- against their own citizens and killed Americans with them. And this was a -- this was a program of the government. For what purpose it was put in place, I can’t imagine. But it’s one of the great tragedies related to violence in our society which has occurred during this administration. Which I think the American people would like to understand fully, it’s been investigated to a degree, but -- but the administration has carried out executive privilege to prevent all of the information from coming out.
I’d like to understand who it was that did this, what the idea was behind it, why it led to the violence, thousands of guns going to Mexican drug lords."
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True. But he just looked more graceful up there - even if he was selling bullshit all night.
I take what obama says as "fancy sounding words to avoid admitting I didn't improve things all that much over the last 4 years".
Tonight he had more gloss than Romney. Romney had way more gloss in debate #1. Tonight, obama looked slick and smooth (though he spewed crap) and ROmney looked awkward.
I didn't think Romney looked awkward, but more composed and respectful of the platform and the process. Obama continued to resort to attacks and diversions.
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yep. bar was set low. But he won. you said it.
Debate #1 gave romney a bounce, but we'll see if it lasts. If romney had raped obama in front of the nation (again), we could have realized he's a bad MFer, and that obama is weak. What we learned tonight is that mitt lets obama get back up. And that obama gets back up.
He was an animal in debate #1, but tonight he was mechanical and awkward. Very good at podium, but when it comes to thinking on feet (literally) and talking to people, he's not so good at that.
It has lasted for the last two weeks. Romney was hardly akward in this debate. Obama got all amped up; but when Romney discussed Obama's record (the debt/deficit, jobs, unemployment, food stamps, immigration, etc.), the president clammed up quickly; all that bass in his voice was GONE.
If Romney keeps winning the argument on the DOMINANT ISSUE of this election, Obama can be as animated as he wants; he is going to get CREAMED on judgment day (Nov. 6).
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Romney confidently smiles while Obama is speaking, Obama shakes his head and blinks a lot while Romney is speaking. Obama awkwardly stumbled around in this recent debate, walking back and forth behind Romney like a true beta.
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You're right. I just reran the DVR. He was a little too indirect in his first response, but Obama and Candy stepped all over him during the second part of that issue.
I agree. She was awful and OB bullied her. It's actually disgusting that it comes down to using yur presidency as an edge in a debate. It's shows desperation IMO.
Unfortunately Mitt missed this and that's not very encouraging either.
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I didn't think Romney looked awkward, but more composed and respectful of the platform and the process. Obama continued to resort to attacks and diversions.
in both debates Romney has come across as more polite/respectful than Obama. In the second debate I think Obama sounded more composed and confident than Romney.
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She flat-out lied. Obama did not call it a terrorist attack in his statement.
True.
He said "act of terror" which is not the same thing. He continued his campaign fund raising by flying off to Vegas and blamed a video for what? 5 days ::) l
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in both debates Romney has come across as more polite/respectful than Obama. In the second debate I think Obama sounded more composed and confident than Romney.
Looked more arrogant and aggressive to me :-\ Too used car salesmanish.
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Looked more arrogant and aggressive to me :-\ Too used car salesmanish.
well maybe you're right. Just calling it like I see it but I get others differ for various reasons.
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Obama hardly controlled the room. The left wanted to see him spew the talking points; he did. This was predicted, long before the debate happened.
This was especially evident during the AK47 discussion when he went off on an education diatribe and continued to step on the moderator when she tried to control it - not only the amount of time he went over, but for going off topic.
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This was especially evident during the AK47 discussion when he went off on an education diatribe and continued to step on the moderator when she tried to control it - not only the amount of time he went over, but for going off topic.
As a strong supporter of the second amendment I don't oppose whatsoever bringing education and other class issues into the debate and I'm not the only one. Over the years I've read plenty of pro 2nd articles many from NRA publications that address these same issues vs. gun control so I agree them, it is a factor and does need delt with. Obama bringing education into it is NOT outside the gun control debate, it's at the heart of it!!!. I'm not saying Obama is fixing it, but just because he's the one that brought it up in the debate doesn't make it wrong by default! That and other various social divides do effect our armed citizenry and are worth talking about. If the moderator doesn't get that, she's the dumbshit.
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If you mean fact checking is skewing the debate in favor of Obama yes she did.
You dont like facts do you?
I dont blame you if i were a stupid, sad closet homo i would probably stay away from facts as well
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What a liar!
Yes apparently he leaned a thing or two from Romney in the last debate
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You have been kneepadding Romney all week for his lies? You really are a pathetic sheep 33....
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Romney seems to do well, even in handicap matches, which this basically was.
Now, you see why the left was so mad at the moderator from the first debate. He just stood by and watch Obama get pounded.
Have you seen the debate House black?
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You mean bailing out Obama on whether Libya was a terror attack etc....no she bailed him out. Maybe she should have shut the hell up.
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You mean bailing out Obama on whether Libya was a terror attack etc....no she bailed him out. Maybe she should have shut the hell up.
I wouldn't complain too soon; she handed Romney a gift by doing this...
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Crowley-Saves-Obama-with-false-fact-check
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in both debates Romney has come across as more polite/respectful than Obama. In the second debate I think Obama sounded more composed and confident than Romney.
You must be watching a different set of debates. ??? I feel the exact opposite. Romney tries the bully the moderators, interrupts the president, and is arrogant and confrontational. Obama always keeps his cool.
Romney got away with that bs the first time, but in the second debate president Obama fought back.
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can you imagine what it would be like to moderate a debate like this? If you don't pull it off perfect, you get a load of shit from one side and possibly both sides. In this climate, if I were offered that job and already had a good job, I would say thanks but no thanks, fuck off.. There is almost zero way you come into this as a mod with both sides fighting to break the rules and end up pleasing both sides. I really think she had in mind she would be able to do that but nope. She actually voiced in the debate that she was worried about the shit she would get if she wasn't fair. She took a lot of heat before the debate even started... Yea, you gotta have a major freaking sack to take that job in this political climate...
Some wondered how she got it,... lol... probably because others said fuck that.
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can you imagine what it would be like to moderate a debate like this? If you don't pull it off perfect, you get a load of shit from one side and possibly both sides. In this climate, if I were offered that job and already had a good job, I would say thanks but no thanks, fuck off.. There is almost zero way you come into this as a mod with both sides fighting to break the rules and end up pleasing both sides. I really think she had in mind she would be able to do that but nope. She actually voiced in the debate that she was worried about the shit she would get if she wasn't fair. She took a lot of heat before the debate even started... Yea, you gotta have a major freaking sack to take that job in this political climate...
Some wondered how she got it,... lol... probably because others said fuck that.
As if her job or reputation would be threatened by her performance. She and the rest of the MSM didn't have much respect to begin with so I don't think her performance would have changed anything. The other two moderators were terrible and no one could care less about them right now.
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/16/crowley-was-out-of-line
More kneepadding by CNN for obama.
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As if her job or reputation would be threatened by her performance. She and the rest of the MSM didn't have much respect to begin with so I don't think her performance would have changed anything. The other two moderators were terrible and no one could care less about them right now.
Do you have any honesty at all or are you really just pure troll? The moderator for the first presidential debate, Jim Lehrer, YOU said did a good job. You liked the way the last mod let them go at it and now you're saying he was terrible? Do you have an honest bone left? I sure in the fuck can't tell... lol..
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Do you have any honesty at all or are you really just pure troll? The moderator for the first presidential debate, Jim Lehrer, YOU said did a good job. You liked the way the last mod let them go at it and now you're saying he was terrible? Do you have an honest bone left? I sure in the fuck can't tell... lol..
I wasn't referring to my opinion. Was referring to what I perceive as the general consensus of his performance.
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I just came up with what Romney should have said:
"Mr. President - spare me your lecture. Your record speaks for itself. You have failed to attend 3/4 of your intel briefings opting for golf and fundraising instead, your admn denied the Benghazi embassy the requested added security on at least 4 occasions, as the embassy was under attack you jetted off to a fundraiser in Las Vegas and a photo op on The View as well as a fundraiser w Jay Z. You proceeded to blame a non-existent youtube video at the UN and spent $74,000 of taxpayer money on ads in Arabic on pakistani TV to apologize for said video. The FBI was not on the scene for 3 weeks while CNN was able to secure the Diary of Ambassador Stevens the day after the attack. And now you hide behind Hillary Clinton who has said she will not be serving a second term and have the gaul to lecture us? Mr. President shame on you. Americans deserve better than the incompetent and faiiled and non-existent leadership you provide. That is going to change when I am elected President three weeks from now."
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I wasn't referring to my opinion. Was referring to what I perceive as the general consensus of his performance.
ok, I got lost on that because you stated it so directly as though it was your opinion, sorry then..
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‘CNN's King Blames Romney for Crowley Deflecting His Attack on Obama
NewsBusters.org ^
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:16:38 AM by RatherBiased.com
During Tuesday's post-debate coverage on CNN, as the panel discussed moderator Candy Crowley giving cover to President Obama's attempt to defend his initial flawed response to the Benghazi terrorist attack, CNN correspondent John King blamed former Governor Mitt Romney for giving Crowley the opening to undermine the GOP candidate's criticism of Obama for taking so long to recognize that the attack was a premeditated act of terrorism.
Shortly before 11:30 p.m., CNN anchor Anderson Cooper had raised the subject as he defended Romney's reasoning and suggested that Obama was taking himself out of context to cover his own tracks. Cooper:
You know, this whole "acts of terror" thing, I don't think it is as clear a slam dunk as the Obama campaign would like it to be. I mean, in his speech, he wasn't saying this was an act of terror. Previous to the paragraph where he said "acts of terror," he had been talking about 9/11 and, obviously, the killing of four Americans. He did reference that video, in partcular, but I do think it's open to debate. I can see why the Romney campaign is quibbling about it.
King blamed the confusion on Romney as he responded:
By mis-speaking about what exactly the President said the day after, Governor Romney has now, he's in this fact-check environment where this should be a problem for the President, this should not be a problem for what Governor Romney said in a debate Because he was wrong about the President did generically refer to an act of terror the day after, we are correcting, Candy corrected Governor Romney on the spot, and so we're having a question of, "Well, what did Romney say?" as opposed to "What did the administration do?" So Governor Romney's choice of words there was a poor one. And so he's being fact-checked, and that takes something away from him.
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Obama Says "When I Was President" At Debate
Real Clear Politics ^ | 10-17-12
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:32:17 AM
President Obama spoke of being president in the past tense during last night's second presidential debate with Mitt Romney: "The way we're going to create jobs here is not just changing our tax code, but also to double our exports. And we are on pace to double our exports, one of the commitments I made when I was president. That's creating tens of thousands of jobs all across the country."
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Have you seen the debate House guy?
Of course, I did. Whork/Blacken/kneepadder with severe identity crisis.
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Have you seen the debate House guy?
House guy? So, not only are you a jobless, autistic moron, but you're also a racist, too.
People like BlackenWhork are perfect examples of the amalgamation of various retards that comprise the modern day Dem party. They have nothing in common and only answer to their elitist overlords in DC, who only do enough to keep them continually voting for their reelections.
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Crowley On September 30th: Administration Took Weeks To Admit Benghazi Might Be A Terrorist Attack
ace of spades ^ | 10.17 | drew m
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:09:51 PM by RummyChick
@lochnar with a great catch from Candy Crowley's interview with David Axelrod on September 30th.
Here's the full exchange for context (video here). I'll highlight what I think are the important parts.
CROWLEY: I am joined by Obama campaign senior adviser David Axelrod. I want to pick up on what John McCain and I were talking about. There's a back and forth now about why didn't this administration -- why did it take them until Friday after a September 11th attack in Libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that there was terrorists involved. John McCain said it doesn't pass the smell test, or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. Your reaction?
AXELROD: Well, first of all, Candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. But when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration, then you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes. This was -- this is being thoroughly investigated.
CROWLEY: But first it was, like, not planned.
AXELROD: We need to bring to justice--
CROWLEY: First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape. All that stuff.
AXELROD: As the director of national intelligence said on Friday, that was the original information that that was given to us. What we don't need is a president or an administration that shoots first and asks questions later.
CROWLEY: But isn't that what happened?
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CROWLEY LET OBAMA HAVE LAST WORD 8 OF 11 TIMES
Breitbart ^ | 17 Oct 2012 | WILLIAM BIGELOW
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:45:35 PM
What are the odds for getting the last word in a debate with Barack Obama? If the moderator is Obama-sycophant Candy Crowley, the odds are 8 to 3 against you. That’s what happened to Mitt Romney in the second presidential debate. Of the eleven questions Crowley allowed to be asked, eight times Obama got the last word, while Crowley deigned to give Romney only three. Not only did Obama receive three more minutes to speak, he was also given the gift of ending the discussion. Here’s how it played out:
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Telling video frame: Crowley shuts down "Fast & Furious" -- on command
Second Debate: Video and transcript ^ | 17 OCT 2012 | Crowley & Obama vs Romney
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:23:58 PM
ROMNEY: The — the greatest failure we’ve had with regards to — to gun violence in some respects is what — what is known as Fast and Furious. Which was a program under this administration, and how it worked exactly I think we don’t know precisely, where thousands of automatic, and AK-47 type weapons were — were given to people that ultimately gave them to — to drug lords.
They used those weapons against — against their own citizens and killed Americans with them. And this was a — this was a program of the government. For what purpose it was put in place, I can’t imagine. But it’s one of the great tragedies related to violence in our society which has occurred during this administration. Which I think the American people would like to understand fully, it’s been investigated to a degree, but — but the administration has carried out executive privilege to prevent all of the information from coming out.
I’d like to understand who it was that did this, what the idea was behind it, why it led to the violence, thousands of guns going to Mexican drug lords. OBAMA: Candy?
CROWLEY: Governor, Governor, if I could, the question was about these assault weapons that once were once banned and are no longer banned.
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Romney stops speaking and turns away in disgust, and Øbozo grins like a possum -- because his obedient, overfed, trained attack spaniel has leaped to his rescue -- at his command.
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Bias? What bias...?
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I just came up with what Romney should have said:
"Mr. President - spare me your lecture. Your record speaks for itself. You have failed to attend 3/4 of your intel briefings opting for golf and fundraising instead, your admn denied the Benghazi embassy the requested added security on at least 4 occasions, as the embassy was under attack you jetted off to a fundraiser in Las Vegas and a photo op on The View as well as a fundraiser w Jay Z. You proceeded to blame a non-existent youtube video at the UN and spent $74,000 of taxpayer money on ads in Arabic on pakistani TV to apologize for said video. The FBI was not on the scene for 3 weeks while CNN was able to secure the Diary of Ambassador Stevens the day after the attack. And now you hide behind Hillary Clinton who has said she will not be serving a second term and have the gaul to lecture us? Mr. President shame on you. Americans deserve better than the incompetent and faiiled and non-existent leadership you provide. That is going to change when I am elected President three weeks from now."
You remind me of Dwight from the office a little.
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You remind me of Dwight from the office a little.
You remind me of sandusky. Go away pedo
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Why is everyone calling garebear a pedo?
???
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Since when is it debate practice for a moderator to select the questions?
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Why is everyone calling garebear a pedo?
???
Becasuse he fucked 33.... hard
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CROWLEY LET OBAMA HAVE LAST WORD 8 OF 11 TIMES
Breitbart ^ | 17 Oct 2012 | WILLIAM BIGELOW
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:45:35 PM
What are the odds for getting the last word in a debate with Barack Obama? If the moderator is Obama-sycophant Candy Crowley, the odds are 8 to 3 against you. That’s what happened to Mitt Romney in the second presidential debate. Of the eleven questions Crowley allowed to be asked, eight times Obama got the last word, while Crowley deigned to give Romney only three. Not only did Obama receive three more minutes to speak, he was also given the gift of ending the discussion. Here’s how it played out:
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God damn boy... you over here Crying like a little ole bitch right now, blaming people all crazy for little gay ass shit. Whats your deal
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God damn boy... you over here Crying like a little ole bitch right now, blaming people all crazy for little gay ass shit. Whats your deal
You think it's acceptable that Obama got the last word 8 of 11 times, or nearly 75% of the time?
Yeah, you're an "objective" Ron Paul fan.
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Is Ron Paul in this election.. oh wait... the GOP got rid of the honest MD for Tan Man Romney.
HAAHAHAHA.. i see youve fell in the ALL OR NOTHING category with 33333
You."Obamas responsible for a baby dying in Ice Land"
Me."show me proof"
You "Kneepader!!!!!!!"
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Is Ron Paul in this election.. oh wait... the GOP got rid of the honest MD for Tan Man Romney.
HAAHAHAHA.. i see youve fell in the ALL OR NOTHING category with 33333
You."Obamas responsible for a baby dying in Ice Land"
Me."show me proof"
You "Kneepader!!!!!!!"
I would have bet every penny and asset I own that you wouldn't have answered the question.
No one asked for proof, by the way. I asked for your OPINION, but it's clear that you don't want to give it, lest you expose yourself for something that you claim you're not (i.e. an Obama supporter).
Too easy.
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I would have bet every penny and asset I own that you wouldn't have answered the question.
No one asked for proof, by the way. I asked for your OPINION, but it's clear that you don't want to give it, lest you expose yourself for something that you claim you're not (i.e. an Obama supporter).
Too easy.
Youre talking about the lastword shit?
I dont give a shit. I wouldnt care if Romney got 11 of 11. Who gives a shit?
Pretty gay tho
"waaaa but he got the last word". Its pretty soft son
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Youre talking about the lastword shit?
I dont give a shit. I wouldnt care if Romney got 11 of 11. Who gives a shit?
Pretty gay tho
"waaaa but he got the last word". Its pretty soft son
Not really. Whoever gets the last word gets to say what they want and it isn't refuted, which is a pretty big advantage to have. It should be balanced. I didn't know that debate moderators were supposed to pick sides.
It's pretty soft that you're, once again, brushing off something regarding the guy you support. Whoops, I mean, you're voting Ron Paul.
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Not really. Whoever gets the last word gets to say what they want and it isn't refuted, which is a pretty big advantage to have. It should be balanced. I didn't know that debate moderators were supposed to pick sides.
It's pretty soft that you're, once again, brushing off something regarding the guy you support. Whoops, I mean, you're voting Ron Paul.
I cant.. you made that possible.
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I cant.. you made that possible.
How did I make that possible?
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How did I make that possible?
The same way im an Obama supporter
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Becasuse he fucked 33.... hard
and 333386 acts like a 6 year old?
haha
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You think it's acceptable that Obama got the last word 8 of 11 times, or nearly 75% of the time?
Yeah, you're an "objective" Ron Paul fan.
Your hero Romney and your party the GOP fucked Ron Paul remember? :)
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and 333386 acts like a 6 year old?
haha
Exactly ;)