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Title: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2012, 05:49:30 AM
Let's see

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/13/crossroads-gps/crossroads-gps-ad-oil-production-obama/

lied about oil production.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/16/barack-obama/obama-says-romney-once-said-coal-burning-plant-kil/

did in fact claim coal mines kill, lol.

lied mid debate and got slapped.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/16/romney-stunned-by-debate-moderators-fact-check-on-libya-attacks/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=b36da30939-Debate_Night_Binders_of_Women_edition10_16_2012&utm_medium=email

he compiled no binder for woman

http://m.thephoenix.com/boston/blogpost.aspx?id=828852

not to mention his tax plan is a lie, the six studies include fucking three blog posts LOLOLOLOLOL. blog posts for the president of the united states.

he got man handled last night
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 05:54:38 AM
Keep dreaming!

As stated earlier, the same CNN poll, that claimed Obama won the debate, broke the debate down into its 5 components: economy, foreign policy, the deficit, taxes, and immigration.

Romney won on FOUR of those five, including the economy (MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE of this election).

All Obama did was show up with a pulse and chirp his talking points with an attitude.

The major post debate polls are showing most debate watchers think President Obama was
the winner — and a typical finding comes in the CNN post-debate poll of registered voters who actually watched the debate.
They were 33 percent Democratic and 33 percent Republican — which means it’s weighted a bit to include about 8 percent more Republicans than the voting population as a whole.

Bottom line: by 46-39 percent, the CNN.com poll respondents called Obama the winner. But asked who did the debate make you more likely to vote for, the respondents were tied between Romney and Obama, 25-25 percent.

Still, Romney won in other key areas:
*On who would better handle the economy: 58 percent Romney; 40 percent Obama.
*On who would better handle health care: 49 percent Romney; 46 percent Obama
*On taxes: 51 percent Romney; 44 percent Obama
*On who is a stronger leader: 49 percent Romney; 46 percent Obama
*On who is more likeable: 47 percent Obama: 41 percent Romney
*On who cares more about your life: 44 percent Obama; 40 percent Romney
*On who answered more directly: 45 percent Romney; 43 percent Obama


http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/10/16/cnn-poll-obama-wins-overall-romney-wins-many-issues/
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 06:04:01 AM
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2012, 06:06:00 AM
Romney got raped.

He fucking lied about the economy, you support that? he lied about the oil and his plans. He lies about his tax plan, he lies and yet you think he won? I guess if you life is based on lies then it's easy to swallow.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 06:11:34 AM
Romney got raped.

He fucking lied about the economy, you support that? he lied about the oil and his plans. He lies about his tax plan, he lies and yet you think he won? I guess if you life is based on lies then it's easy to swallow.

LOL.  Obama lied about the permits, lied about lybia, lied about GM, lied gas prices, etc. 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: dario73 on October 17, 2012, 06:14:43 AM
Look at these stupid libs.

I told you people this was going to happen. All it takes for these dummies to think Obama won is for him to show any sign of life.

Just because he did better on this debate, doesn't mean he won.

It's like boxing. One boxer (Obama) could be getting the living crap beaten out of him and still be awarded with some rounds where he didn't look so bad. Judges might find a round or two to give the loser just because he looked a little bit better in those rounds compared to the rounds where he was getting destroyed.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: dario73 on October 17, 2012, 06:26:38 AM
Romney got raped.

He fucking lied about the economy, you support that? he lied about the oil and his plans. He lies about his tax plan, he lies and yet you think he won? I guess if you life is based on lies then it's easy to swallow.

Really?

What did Romney say about the economy that was a lie. He killed Obama on that. 9 million jobs is the difference between 5.5 UE and what the rate is now.

So where did Romney lie?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 06:37:37 AM
Really?

What did Romney say about the economy that was a lie. He killed Obama on that. 9 million jobs is the difference between 5.5 UE and what the rate is now.

So where did Romney lie?

Romney also destroyed Obama on immigration, asking him (as did the Univision folks) why he didn't pass any immigration reform his first year, WHEN HE HAD A SUPERMAJORITY IN THE SENATE and the majority in the House. Obama clammed up BIG TIME.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 17, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
This thread is clear indicator of how intelligent people on this board is and how they vote.

Necrosis backs up his claim with links and a bunch of neocons answer with opinions and NO facts or links. Keep lying fellows you really are Romney drones
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 07:25:00 AM
This thread is clear indicator of how intelligent people on this board is and how they vote.

Necrosis backs up his claim with links and a bunch of neocons answer with opinions and NO facts or links. Keep lying fellows you really are Romney drones

Apparently, you are as dopey as you appear. I backed my statements with links, namely the ones that show people backing Romney in the internals of the same polls that claim Obama won the debate.

Try that one on for size.

Ever since the beating Obama took in the first debate, lefties have been screaming that Romney's been lying. But the polls shifting Romney's way tell a different story. Obama was BUSTED on this issue on Libya. He's been lying for two weeks about. Yet, YOU and NECROSIS have been mute about the issue....so much for your high standards of demanding truth.

When Obama's claims about Romney's tax plan got shredded to bits (by multiple sources and by Romney himself)....crickets from the two of you.

And, there's the matter about Obama LYING about his attempts at immigration reform, when he had a supermajority in the Senate. Try that on for size, Whork.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 07:58:16 AM
if romney had handled obama like he did in debate #1, the election would have been over.

now it's gonna go down to the wire.  obama has the infrastructure in place to have a better GOTV effort, and/or cheat to win it.  Intrade ticking up 3 points.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 08:01:06 AM
if romney had handled obama like he did in debate #1, the election would have been over.

now it's gonna go down to the wire.  obama has the infrastructure in place to have a better GOTV effort, and/or cheat to win it.  Intrade ticking up 3 points.

And what are we talking about again?  Obama's lies on Lybia. 


2 things 240 -

1.  Obama did not present any plan for the next 4 years but more fo the same crap. 

2.  When presented w a question about misconceptions about themselves - romney spoke about himself as a man and person - Obama taacked Romney. 


More bullshit and lies from obama 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 08:04:58 AM
facts don't matter.  remember when i said it was FINE for biden and romney for their statements (which contracted their earlier statemetns) because debates are solely for low-info voters?

if it's 2 weeks before the election, and you're sitll undecided, then you know ZERO about the policy of these two men.  You deserve to be suckered by the best liar.

And I'm not gonna bother arguing with you - there were a lot of factual discrepencies in debate #1, i'm not sure everyone here admitted it ;)  And it's fine - they all lie, they all paint things how they want. 

Romney won debate #1.   Biden controlled debate #2.  Obama won debate #3.   The rest is just window dressing.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Fury on October 17, 2012, 08:13:34 AM
facts don't matter.  remember when i said it was FINE for biden and romney for their statements (which contracted their earlier statemetns) because debates are solely for low-info voters?

if it's 2 weeks before the election, and you're sitll undecided, then you know ZERO about the policy of these two men.  You deserve to be suckered by the best liar.

And I'm not gonna bother arguing with you - there were a lot of factual discrepencies in debate #1, i'm not sure everyone here admitted it ;)  And it's fine - they all lie, they all paint things how they want. 

Romney won debate #1.   Biden controlled debate #2.  Obama won debate #3.   The rest is just window dressing.

Except he didn't. Yet another rambling, nonsensical post from you that is nothing more than the opinion of a massive Obama supporter.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 08:17:35 AM
Except he didn't. Yet another rambling, nonsensical post from you that is nothing more than the opinion of a massive Obama supporter.

okay.  he "controlled" debate #3?   He certainly was laughing and having fun at the end of it.  Romney faded as the evening went on.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 08:19:42 AM
okay.  he "controlled" debate #3?   He certainly was laughing and having fun at the end of it.  Romney faded as the evening went on.

Crowley interupted him 28 times and gave your lord 4 more minutes than Romney remember douchebag? 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Fury on October 17, 2012, 08:25:05 AM
okay.  he "controlled" debate #3?   He certainly was laughing and having fun at the end of it.  Romney faded as the evening went on.

He didn't control it. He came off as aggressive, sure, but he certainly didn't control it.

Having fun = controlling it? I love your logic, you balding sycophant. From the pictures I've seen showing the clear disdain on his face, I don't even think that's a valid judgment.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 08:28:05 AM
Michelle Obama Broke Agreed Upon Rules, Clapped At Debate


At the second presidential debate on Tuesday night, a camera caught first lady Michelle Obama clapping after moderator Candy Crowley told Republican presidential candidate Gov. Mitt Romney that President Obama called the Benghazi attack an "act of terror" soon after the attack on the U.S. consulate.
 
Nearly all of the audible applause came from those sitting away from the actual debate, but when FOX News' camera shot moved to a bird's-eye view it became apparent that the only applause from the participating debate audience came from first lady Michelle Obama. Mitt Romney's wife Ann was also sitting with the debate participants.
 
According to the rules both campaigns agreed to, or the memorandum of understanding (MOA), there is to be no clapping from members of the debate audience.
 
The rule: Article 9, Section A, Subsection 7: "All members of the debate audience will be instructed by the moderator before the debate goes on the air and by the moderator after the debate goes on the air not to applaud, speak, or otherwise participate in the debate by any means other than by silent observation, except as provided by the agreed upon rules of the October 16 town hall debate."
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: blacken700 on October 17, 2012, 08:32:25 AM
Michelle Obama Broke Agreed Upon Rules, Clapped At Debate


At the second presidential debate on Tuesday night, a camera caught first lady Michelle Obama clapping after moderator Candy Crowley told Republican presidential candidate Gov. Mitt Romney that President Obama called the Benghazi attack an "act of terror" soon after the attack on the U.S. consulate.
 
Nearly all of the audible applause came from those sitting away from the actual debate, but when FOX News' camera shot moved to a bird's-eye view it became apparent that the only applause from the participating debate audience came from first lady Michelle Obama. Mitt Romney's wife Ann was also sitting with the debate participants.
 
According to the rules both campaigns agreed to, or the memorandum of understanding (MOA), there is to be no clapping from members of the debate audience.
 
The rule: Article 9, Section A, Subsection 7: "All members of the debate audience will be instructed by the moderator before the debate goes on the air and by the moderator after the debate goes on the air not to applaud, speak, or otherwise participate in the debate by any means other than by silent observation, except as provided by the agreed upon rules of the October 16 town hall debate."



Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2012, 08:38:50 AM
when all neocons and mental patients like 333 can do is cry about the rules that is how you know that Romney got his ass handed to him

btw - for the record, Romney broke the rules first when he asked Obama a direct question
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262427-romney-breaks-debate-rule-on-not-asking-direct-questions

333 - you're a fair though unbalanced kind of guy, don't you want to make a post about how Romney broke the rules

You can even use the link I gave you
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2012, 08:38:59 AM
And what are we talking about again?  Obama's lies on Lybia. 


2 things 240 -

1.  Obama did not present any plan for the next 4 years but more fo the same crap. 

2.  When presented w a question about misconceptions about themselves - romney spoke about himself as a man and person - Obama taacked Romney. 


More bullshit and lies from obama 
you fucking asshat, did you not hear obamas reponse to the whole federal lands bullshit, yet you keep on with it. Glad romney was caught in a lie during the debate, after being corrected he still kept with the lie.

jesus you are delusional
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 08:40:11 AM
you fucking asshat, did you not hear obamas reponse to the whole federal lands bullshit, yet you keep on with it. Glad romney was caught in a lie during the debate, after being corrected he still kept with the lie.

jesus you are delusional

Hey asshole - I already bumped the threads proving you dead wrong on that.   

He was held in contempt of court for not issuing permits! 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 08:44:34 AM
President Obama spoke of being president in the past tense during last night's second presidential debate with Mitt Romney: "The way we're going to create jobs here is not just changing our tax code, but also to double our exports. And we are on pace to double our exports, one of the commitments I made when I was president. That's creating tens of thousands of jobs all across the country."


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/17/obama_says_when_i_was_president_at_debate.html

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2012, 08:57:31 AM
President Obama spoke of being president in the past tense during last night's second presidential debate with Mitt Romney: "The way we're going to create jobs here is not just changing our tax code, but also to double our exports. And we are on pace to double our exports, one of the commitments I made when I was president. That's creating tens of thousands of jobs all across the country."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/17/obama_says_when_i_was_president_at_debate.html

LOL - now you're talking about verb tense ?

can you get any more desperate to avoid the obvious

btw - still waiting for you to comment on Romney breaking the debate rules since I know that topic is really significant to you
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 24KT on October 17, 2012, 09:09:07 AM
You Americans have been ROBBED!!!

This is your only choice in 2012
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 09:23:18 AM
if romney had handled obama like he did in debate #1, the election would have been over.

now it's gonna go down to the wire.  obama has the infrastructure in place to have a better GOTV effort, and/or cheat to win it.  Intrade ticking up 3 points.

Then why are voter registrations in certain states at severe LOWS among Democrats in certain swing states?

Romney tore Obama up on the record of the last four years. All the talking points and "47%" stuff won't save Obama. He got MUTE, when Romney hit him with the UE numbers, the food stamp numbers, the number of WOMEN who are now unemployed, Obama's projections on unemployment, etc.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 09:26:56 AM
Then why are voter registrations in certain states at severe LOWS among Democrats in certain swing states?

Romney tore Obama up on the record of the last four years. All the talking points and "47%" stuff won't save Obama. He got MUTE, when Romney hit him with the UE numbers, the food stamp numbers, the number of WOMEN who are now unemployed, Obama's projections on unemployment, etc.

Romney did all these amazing things, against a guy viewed as a failure, and managed to lose more of the polls on who won.

Brutal underachievement.

Jeb Bush would have had Obama on the floor, crying in the fetal position. 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
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Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 09:32:23 AM
Romney did all these amazing things, against a guy viewed as a failure, and managed to lose more of the polls on who won.

Brutal underachievement.

Jeb Bush would have had Obama on the floor, crying in the fetal position. 

And, I described exactly why. What's the most important issue? The economy. Who won on that? ROMNEY (by a wide margin)! Romney also won on taxes, immigration and the deficit.

Obama got the win, simply he actually showed up with a pulse and chirped the lefty talking points, unlike two weeks ago. The internals on both the CNN and CBS polls prove that.

But, every time the record was brought up, Obama was basically MUTE.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 09:33:46 AM
And, I described exactly why. What's the most important issue? The economy. Who won on that? ROMNEY (by a wide margin)! Romney also won on taxes, immigration and the deficit.
Obama got the win, simply he actually showed up with a pulse and chirped the lefty talking points, unlike two weeks ago. The internals on both the CNN and CBS polls prove that.
But, every time the record was brought up, Obama was basically MUTE.

Romney won on issues.   But, according to viewers, Obama won.

Romney's the guy with a 12-inch penis that can't get laid.   Obama's sporting a 3-inch ciggie and getting 3-ways.   Go figure.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 09:39:27 AM
Romney won on issues.   But, according to viewers, Obama won.

Romney's the guy with a 12-inch penis that can't get laid.   Obama's sporting a 3-inch ciggie and getting 3-ways.   Go figure.

Did you actually read what I posted? Those same viewers gave Romney four of the five topics within the debate.

But, if you're going to insist on using such an analogy, it's more like the girl cheated on Obama with Romney, had multiple orgasms (first debate), then went home to Obama and faked it (claiming Obama won second debate, overall) while fantasizing about Romney (giving Romney the nod on 4 of 5 issues, especially the economy...by a wide margin).

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 09:48:50 AM
Did you actually read what I posted? Those same viewers gave Romney four of the five topics within the debate.

But, if you're going to insist on using such an analogy, it's more like the girl cheated on Obama with Romney, had multiple orgasms (first debate), then went home to Obama and faked it (claiming Obama won overall) while fantasizing about Romney (giving Romney the nod on 4 of 5 issues, especially the economy...by a wide margin).


i can have a fight with the wifey.   I can be right on 4 of the 5 things we argue about.

My ass is still sleeping on the couch.  #notwinning :)

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: GigantorX on October 17, 2012, 09:54:38 AM
Let's see

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/13/crossroads-gps/crossroads-gps-ad-oil-production-obama/

lied about oil production.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/16/barack-obama/obama-says-romney-once-said-coal-burning-plant-kil/

did in fact claim coal mines kill, lol.

lied mid debate and got slapped.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/16/romney-stunned-by-debate-moderators-fact-check-on-libya-attacks/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=b36da30939-Debate_Night_Binders_of_Women_edition10_16_2012&utm_medium=email

he compiled no binder for woman

http://m.thephoenix.com/boston/blogpost.aspx?id=828852

not to mention his tax plan is a lie, the six studies include fucking three blog posts LOLOLOLOLOL. blog posts for the president of the united states.

he got man handled last night

No.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 17, 2012, 11:17:24 AM
Romney did all these amazing things, against a guy viewed as a failure, and managed to lose more of the polls on who won.

Brutal underachievement.

Jeb Bush would have had Obama on the floor, crying in the fetal position. 


LOL

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 12:45:33 PM
PICKET: Flashback - Oil drilling permits down 36 percent under Obama
 
By Kerry Picket - The Washington Times
 

October 16, 2012, 07:13PM




President Barack Obama and Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney engaged in a heated discussion over oil production during the president's first term during their second debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York on Tuesday night. President Obama insisted that oil production has been up and that the oil companies have been granted permits to drill but refuse to do so. Governor Romney, though, pointed out that the government is not granting many permits to oil companies, particularly on federal land.
 
"The most important thing we can do is to make sure we control our own energy. So here's what I've done since I've been president. We have increased oil production to the highest levels in 16 years," President Obama said. Natural gas production is the highest it's been in decades. We have seen increases in coal production and coal employment. But what I've also said is we can't just produce traditional source of energy. We've got to look to the future. That's why we doubled fuel efficiency standards on cars."
 
Governor Romney shot back, saying: "Oil production is is down 14 percent this year on federal land, and gas production was down 9 percent. Why? Because the president cut in half the number of licenses and permits for drilling on federal lands, and in federal waters."
 
Romney continued, " What we don't need is to have the president keeping us from taking advantage of oil, coal, and gas. This has not been Mr. Oil, or Mr. Gas, or Mr. Coal. Talk to these people working in those industries. I was just in coal country. People grabbed my arms and said, 'Please save my job.' The head of the EPA said, ' You can't build a coal plant. You'll virtually--it's virtually impossible given our regulations.'"
 
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that Obama's Interior Department just banned drilling on 11.5 million acres of petroleum reserve:
 

President Obama is campaigning as a champion of the oil and gas boom he's had nothing to do with, and even as his regulators try to stifle it. The latest example is the Interior Department's little-noticed August decision to close off from drilling nearly half of the 23.5 million acre National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska.
 
The area is called the National Petroleum Reserve because in 1976 Congress designated it as a strategic oil and natural gas stockpile to meet the "energy needs of the nation." Alaska favors exploration in nearly the entire reserve. The feds had been reviewing four potential development plans, and the state of Alaska had strongly objected to the most restrictive of the four. Sure enough, that was the plan Interior chose.
 
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar says his plan "will help the industry bring energy safely to market from this remote location, while also protecting wildlife and subsistence rights of Alaska Natives." He added that the proposal will expand "safe and responsible oil and gas development, and builds on our efforts to help companies develop the infrastructure that's needed to bring supplies online."
 
The problem is almost no one in the energy industry and few in Alaska agree with him. In an August 22 letter to Mr. Salazar, the entire Alaska delegation in Congress—Senators Mark Begich and Lisa Murkowski and Representative Don Young—call it "the largest wholesale land withdrawal and blocking of access to an energy resource by the federal government in decades." This decision, they add, "will cause serious harm to the economy and energy security of the United States, as well as to the state of Alaska." Mr. Begich is a Democrat.
 


Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said to me after the debate on Tuesday night, "President Obama hasn't banned oil production out in Alaska...well he hasn't banned it across the country."
 
Additionally, Fox News host Neil Cavuto reported in March that granting oil drilling permits under the Obama administration was down 36 percent compared to the George W. Bush administration and Bill Clinton and administration:
 



When the president says he is opening up millions of acres for drilling exploration in the United States, Cavuto says you might want to thank the previous presidents instead, including Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. According to the Bureau of Land Management, the current administration has actually decreased approval of drilling permits by 36 percent. Even under Bill Clinton, his administration increased the approval of drilling permits by 58 percent, and George W. Bush increased approval by 116 percent.
 
 


Read more: PICKET: Flashback - Oil drilling permits down 36 percent under Obama - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/oct/16/picket-flashback-oil-drilling-permits-down-36-perc/#ixzz29aTgfMnO
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Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 12:49:39 PM
when ann romney came out and gave mitt a kiss... look at the video... mitt looked pissed like mccain did in those debates.  She did too.  Obama was smirking like a dick.

in the spin room, dems packed the place just like repubs packed the place after debate 1.   winning team is always there to celebrate.   canddiates thought obama won.  online polls showed won.  Top repubs pundits thought obama won.

He won.  let's watch the poll numbers to see what happens now. 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 12:55:16 PM
when ann romney came out and gave mitt a kiss... look at the video... mitt looked pissed like mccain did in those debates.  She did too.  Obama was smirking like a dick.

in the spin room, dems packed the place just like repubs packed the place after debate 1.   winning team is always there to celebrate.   canddiates thought obama won.  online polls showed won.  Top repubs pundits thought obama won.

He won.  let's watch the poll numbers to see what happens now. 

The poll numbers are going to get worse for obama not better. 

He needed a KO, not a sqeeker while hiding behind Crowlys large dress
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 17, 2012, 01:03:33 PM
The poll numbers are going to get worse for obama not better. 

He needed a KO, not a sqeeker while hiding behind Crowlys large dress

some getbiggers thought romney would win last night also.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 01:07:47 PM
some getbiggers thought romney would win last night also.

 ::)   

Whats' the narrative after the debate: 

1.  Obama came w more life to him.
2.  Obama lied about many tihngs
3.  Crowley had to save obama from a meletdown
4.  Romney was a little more agressive than needed
5.  Obama has no defense to his record and has not said what he will do in a second term but more fo the same bullshit
6.  Lybia is still a mess for Obama
7.  Obama offered a factory job to a exercise studies grad
8.  Obama and Romney did not directly answer questions
9.  Obama had not one single answer on his record on the economy.   




Yeah - really going to move the polls.   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Fury on October 17, 2012, 01:35:31 PM
Romney did all these amazing things, against a guy viewed as a failure, and managed to lose more of the polls on who won.

Brutal underachievement.

Jeb Bush would have had Obama on the floor, crying in the fetal position. 

Obama did all these amazing things, against a guy viewed as a douche, and is still losing significantly in the polls. Even with the bulk of the MSM in his back pocket.

Brutal underachievement.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Obama did all these amazing things, against a guy viewed as a douche, and is still losing significantly in the polls. Even with the bulk of the MSM in his back pocket.

Brutal underachievement.

if anyone is qualfied to talk about underachievement it's you
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: AbrahamG on October 17, 2012, 04:49:55 PM
Let's see

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/13/crossroads-gps/crossroads-gps-ad-oil-production-obama/

lied about oil production.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/16/barack-obama/obama-says-romney-once-said-coal-burning-plant-kil/

did in fact claim coal mines kill, lol.

lied mid debate and got slapped.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/16/romney-stunned-by-debate-moderators-fact-check-on-libya-attacks/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=b36da30939-Debate_Night_Binders_of_Women_edition10_16_2012&utm_medium=email

he compiled no binder for woman

http://m.thephoenix.com/boston/blogpost.aspx?id=828852

not to mention his tax plan is a lie, the six studies include fucking three blog posts LOLOLOLOLOL. blog posts for the president of the united states.

he got man handled last night

Raped so bad his asshole is probably on the outside.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Fury on October 17, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
if anyone is qualfied to talk about underachievement it's you

I think that would be the 46-year-old man who spends hours every day following another man around an Internet board.

Brutally exciting life you're leading.  ::)
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: garebear on October 17, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
You can tell Obama won simply by looking at the posts of the republicans on this board and elsewhere on the internet.

Complete meltdown. Facebook looks like the Trail of Tears today.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 05:54:16 PM
You can tell Obama won simply by looking at the posts of the republicans on this board and elsewhere on the internet.

Complete meltdown. Facebook looks like the Trail of Tears today.



With Romney up 51-465 in Gallup? Yep, the Republicans are breaking out the sackcloth and ashes.

What's funny is the libs, running their mouths. Obama got smoked two weeks ago.

He actually shows with a pulse and the left is, yet again, celebrating mediocrity. The same polls that claim he won the debate have internals that spell DOOM for Obama, particularly on the economy.

Biden "won" last week. How's that working for you lefties?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 05:58:21 PM
With Romney up 51-465 in Gallup? Yep, the Republicans are breaking out the sackcloth and ashes.

What's funny is the libs, running their mouths. Obama got smoked two weeks ago.

He actually shows with a pulse and the left is, yet again, celebrating mediocrity. The same polls that claim he won the debate have internals that spell DOOM for Obama, particularly on the economy.

Biden "won" last week. How's that working for you lefties?

All the libs care about is that he say anything in an angry tone and they are tingled. 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2012, 06:03:21 PM
Obama does bad the left admits it, the right gets owned, they attack obama and make excuses.

bullshit never ends.

what was obamas response to federal land drilling you tard? what is the point you are missing here?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2012, 06:04:02 PM
Obama does bad the left admits it, the right gets owned, they attack obama and make excuses.

bullshit never ends.

what was obamas response to federal land drilling you tard? what is the point you are missing here?

Obama lied about the permits
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 17, 2012, 06:08:21 PM
Obama does bad the left admits it,

As if they had a choice  ::)


 the right gets owned, they attack obama and make excuses.

bullshit never ends.

what was obamas response to federal land drilling you tard? what is the point you are missing here?

Because there was no owning involved. Again, kindly explain how the same polls that gave Obama the win had Romney blowing Obama away on the single most important issue of this election: THE ECONOMY.

Or, you can explain why Obama got mush-mouthed, when Romney kept beating him over the head with his lousy record, on unemployment, on his failure to pass immigration reform (despite a supermajority in the Senate, behind him), etc.

Obama got his win, simply because he didn't suck to high heaven as he did two weeks ago. And, that's about it.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Straw Man on October 17, 2012, 06:47:57 PM
I think that would be the 46-year-old man who spends hours every day following another man around an Internet board.

Brutally exciting life you're leading.  ::)

are you referring to the guy who begs me to respond to his posts and even puts my name in the thread title of his posts in the hope that I will notice him

maybe you're referring to yourself when you piss and moan that I don't respond to your posts as if you expect me to go look for your inane comments

btw - if you think I spend hours on here maybe you should look at my daily average # of posts as it's very close to the same # as yours

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 18, 2012, 03:02:10 AM
Obama does bad the left admits it, the right gets owned, they attack obama and make excuses.

bullshit never ends.

what was obamas response to federal land drilling you tard? what is the point you are missing here?

This.

The right is delutional. Their commentators lie and their supporters wants to live on a lie.
The left can atleast admit when their candidate loses.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2012, 05:35:56 AM
Obama lied about the permits

no he did not, he issued timelines for those holding the land to shit or get off the pot. This created public lands, in which drilling is higher then ever. Your semantic bullshit won't work, he issued more permits then bush you fucking dullard.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 05:52:37 AM
no he did not, he issued timelines for those holding the land to shit or get off the pot. This created public lands, in which drilling is higher then ever. Your semantic bullshit won't work, he issued more permits then bush you fucking dullard.


Lol. 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 18, 2012, 05:58:57 AM

Lol. 

The weakest response ever ::)
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 06:18:34 AM
This.

The right is delutional. Their commentators lie and their supporters wants to live on a lie.
The left can atleast admit when their candidate loses.

You mean like Ed Schultz and the MSNBC bunch, claiming the Wisconsin recall race was still close and it wasn't over, EVEN WHEN THEIR OWN NETWORK called it for Walker, less than an hour after the polls closed (Walker eventually won by seven)?

Or, Obama himself thinking he actually won the first debate?

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 18, 2012, 06:40:16 AM
You mean like Ed Schultz and the MSNBC bunch, claiming the Wisconsin recall race was still close and it wasn't over, EVEN WHEN THEIR OWN NETWORK called it for Walker, less than an hour after the polls closed (Walker eventually won by seven)?

Or, Obama himself thinking he actually won the first debate?



No i mean MSNBC coming out saying Obama lost the debate. Wallace nearly committed suicide on air very funny.

FOX dont do this.
It says something about the respect they have for their wievers
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 06:47:34 AM
No i mean MSNBC coming out saying Obama lost the debate. Wallace nearly committed suicide on air very funny.

FOX dont do this.
It says something about the respect they have for their wievers

It says that, unlike MSNBC, they actually do so legitimate analysis, based on reality (that might explain why Fox has mopped up the floor with MSNBC for over a decade).

As I stated earlier, the same polls that said Obama won the election have internals that give Romney the win on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OF THIS ELECTION (The economy, along with immigration, healthcare, and taxes).

CNN broke the debate down into five categories. Romney won FOUR of them; on the most important issue (the economy), he blew Obama away, 58-40.

So, yet again, where is this win for Obama, other than getting an "A", simply for not sucking as badly as he did two weeks ago?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2012, 06:49:44 AM
http://www.economist.com/node/21564175

seems like the experts think obama has a better plan for the economy.

the fact that romney's plan is impossible might have something to do with it.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 18, 2012, 07:02:16 AM
How can you label Romney's plan impossible when there haven't been any specifics to it revealed yet?

(Rhetorical question)
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: GigantorX on October 18, 2012, 07:15:07 AM
http://www.economist.com/node/21564175

seems like the experts think obama has a better plan for the economy.

the fact that romney's plan is impossible might have something to do with it.



Obama really doesn't have a plan.

He was able to the stimulus bill passed....and a bipartisan payroll tax cut which was a horrible idea? If that was his plan then it's safe to say that his plan was a total failure.

I'm not excusing Romney for his lack of specifics, but to say that Obama has an economic plan is pretty far fetched.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 07:33:05 AM
http://www.economist.com/node/21564175

seems like the experts think obama has a better plan for the economy.

the fact that romney's plan is impossible might have something to do with it.




Obama doesnt have a plan remember? 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 07:38:45 AM
Obama really doesn't have a plan.

He was able to the stimulus bill passed....and a bipartisan payroll tax cut which was a horrible idea? If that was his plan then it's safe to say that his plan was a total failure.

I'm not excusing Romney for his lack of specifics, but to say that Obama has an economic plan is pretty far fetched.

His economic plan is to hike taxes on the rich....AT FIRST.....then hike them up on everybody else. That would explain why his extension of the Bush tax cuts for the middle class was only going to last a year. It also explains ObamaCare, not fully kicking into gear until AFTER the election.

Obama is simply trying to run out the clock and fake it, hiding his agenda until it's too late for anyone to stop it.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: dario73 on October 18, 2012, 07:40:57 AM
Tell me something, MCWAY.

Obama said he cut taxes. When did he do that? Did he provide a new tax legislation?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: GigantorX on October 18, 2012, 07:42:51 AM
Tell me something, MCWAY.

Obama said he cut taxes. When did he do that? Did he provide a new tax legislation?

That has to be one of the biggest obfuscations and lies told during this campaign.

Was there a rate cut that we weren't aware of?

Or was it some strange mixture of credits/deductions that no one really has a chance to take advantage of or get any relief from?

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 18, 2012, 07:43:37 AM
It says that, unlike MSNBC, they actually do so legitimate analysis, based on reality (that might explain why Fox has mopped up the floor with MSNBC for over a decade).

As I stated earlier, the same polls that said Obama won the election have internals that give Romney the win on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OF THIS ELECTION (The economy, along with immigration, healthcare, and taxes).

CNN broke the debate down into five categories. Romney won FOUR of them; on the most important issue (the economy), he blew Obama away, 58-40.

So, yet again, where is this win for Obama, other than getting an "A", simply for not sucking as badly as he did two weeks ago?


What???
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 07:46:30 AM
Tell me something, MCWAY.

Obama said he cut taxes. When did he do that? Did he provide a new tax legislation?

You mean the whopping $13 a week, per his tax cut (which would barely, depending on where you live, give you a quarter tank of gas)?

Obama said a lot of things but didn't deliver, as Romney shoved down his throat repeatedly, namely:

- He didn't pass immigration reform, despite supermajorities in Congress.
- He didn't cut the deficit in half
- He didn't keep unemployment under 8%
- ObamaCare didn't lower premiums and doesn't let everyone keep his/her own doctor.
- He didn't make America more respected, around the globe.

I'm still shocked as to why our TK buddies can't qualify why Obama won the second debate, despite losing on four of five major issues of the debate (and the election).

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: dario73 on October 18, 2012, 07:47:45 AM

What???
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wNgakvZJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 07:50:03 AM

What???

I don't stutter. Again, that's why Fox continues to pound MSNBC into the ground. REALITY, unlike MSNBC, pretending (for example) that the Wisconsin recall race was still close, when it got called in less than an hour with Walker running away with it (and Schultz literally on the brink of tears).

Fox also, within minutes, pulled the footage that showed Obama NOT admitting that the Benghazi attack was an act of terror and his failure to state such, despite being asked directly THREE TIMES (on Univision, on "The View" and on David Letterman's show). Not to mention, they also aired Crowley's post-debate ADMISSION that Romney's accusation on Obama's Libya reaction was right.

One more time: The same polls that said Obama won the election have internals that give Romney the win on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OF THIS ELECTION (The economy, along with immigration, healthcare, and taxes).

CNN broke the debate down into five categories. Romney won FOUR of them; on the most important issue (the economy), he blew Obama away, 58-40.



So, yet again, where is this win for Obama, other than getting an "A", simply for not sucking as badly as he did two weeks ago?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 18, 2012, 07:57:37 AM
It says that, unlike MSNBC, they actually do so legitimate analysis, based on reality


Do you really believe this to be true Mcway?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 08:00:52 AM
It says that, unlike MSNBC, they actually do so legitimate analysis, based on reality


Do you really believe this to be true Mcway?

Dario's pick pretty much says it all. I've already answered this question.

Now, it's your turn. Try answering how Obama can win a debate, despite losing on four of the five major issues within that debate, according to the same people that said he won.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: GigantorX on October 18, 2012, 08:03:35 AM
It says that, unlike MSNBC, they actually do so legitimate analysis, based on reality


Do you really believe this to be true Mcway?

Take the coverage of the Wisconsin Recall, compare Fox News against MSNBC.

MSNBC was actively cheerleading against Scott Walker in every way imaginable before and during the actual voting day. Schultz, Maddow, Bashir and every other host was obviously campaigning against Walker. This much cannot be argued.

Fox News on the day of the recall did no such thing.

And MSNBC used the tagline, "Lean Forward." What a joke.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 18, 2012, 08:04:40 AM
Dario's pick pretty much says it all. I've already answered this question.

Now, it's your turn. Try answering how Obama can win a debate, despite losing on four of the five major issues within that debate, according to the same people that said he won.


Why bother?

You are so disconnected from reality nothing i say would matter to you anyway
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 08:10:36 AM
Take the coverage of the Wisconsin Recall, compare Fox News against MSNBC.

MSNBC was actively cheerleading against Scott Walker in every way imaginable before and during the actual voting day. Schultz, Maddow, Bashir and every other host was obviously campaigning against Walker. This much cannot be argued.

Fox News on the day of the recall did no such thing.

And MSNBC used the tagline, "Lean Forward." What a joke.

It wasn't so much their campaigning against Walker. I can live with that.

It was their being mute about the Occupy goons' destruction, while calling Tea Party folks racist. And, most laughingly of them all, it was their utter denial about the outcome, claiming it was close, that it wasn't going to be a big win for Walker.....WHEN THEIR OWN NETWORK called it for Walker in less than an hour.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 08:11:15 AM

Why bother?

You are so disconnected from reality nothing i say would matter to you anyway

In other words, you're using the same cowardly excuses that Andre does, when he can't answer a simple question put to him.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: dario73 on October 18, 2012, 08:13:06 AM

You are so disconnected from reality

Seriously. 

Did you type this without laughing at yourself?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2012, 08:35:01 AM

Why bother?

You are so disconnected from reality nothing i say would matter to you anyway

Yes obama has no plan, His plan was just mutter about. He has clear plans and has clear objectives. it might be to complex for these tards to understand. The shiney 5 point plan based on a fucking lie which will rape the middle class as evidenced by his "studies" seems better.

anyone championing FOX as a placeholder for reality really needs to have their head checked. It is known as the worst of the worst, it is the biggest media disinformation source in the country, a proven fact.

I doubt MCWAY would concede anything, this is a guy who claims to have ultimate knowledge and the source of life and morals isn't up for debate.

he takes this approach with everything in life, no other option but his.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: GigantorX on October 18, 2012, 08:35:55 AM
Yes obama has no plan, His plan was just mutter about. He has clear plans and has clear objectives. it might be to complex for these tards to understand. The shiney 5 point plan based on a fucking lie which will rape the middle class as evidenced by his "studies" seems better.

anyone championing FOX as a placeholder for reality really needs to have their head checked. It is known as the worst of the worst, it is the biggest media disinformation source in the country, a proven fact.

I doubt MCWAY would concede anything, this is a guy who claims to have ultimate knowledge and the source of life and morals isn't up for debate.

he takes this approach with everything in life, no other option but his.

And what is his plan for the economy?

You seem to be the only person on Earth that knows it in detail.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: 240 is Back on October 18, 2012, 08:46:23 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wNgakvZJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

LOL!  I love getbig :)
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2012, 08:47:50 AM
And what is his plan for the economy?

You seem to be the only person on Earth that knows it in detail.

So you honestly are unaware of all of the policies he has that effect the economy?

or are you just being offput by his lack of a 5 POINT PLAN!!!!!!.

the stimulus?obamacare?tax hikes on the top earners? increased drilling? education reform and increases in loans? etc.. this is part of the plan, in whole all of the ideas can be called a plan.

for example, Romney is apparently unaware of how recession causes gas prices to drop with poor demand.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/17/conservatives-remain-in-denial-after-obama-burs/190708

the fact they are increasing is actually a good sign, it is a recovery.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 08:54:54 AM
mEDIA mATTERS?   lol!!!!!!!1


So you honestly are unaware of all of the policies he has that effect the economy?

or are you just being offput by his lack of a 5 POINT PLAN!!!!!!.

the stimulus?obamacare?tax hikes on the top earners? increased drilling? education reform and increases in loans? etc.. this is part of the plan, in whole all of the ideas can be called a plan.

for example, Romney is apparently unaware of how recession causes gas prices to drop with poor demand.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/17/conservatives-remain-in-denial-after-obama-burs/190708

the fact they are increasing is actually a good sign, it is a recovery.


Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: GigantorX on October 18, 2012, 09:02:18 AM
So you honestly are unaware of all of the policies he has that effect the economy?

or are you just being offput by his lack of a 5 POINT PLAN!!!!!!.

the stimulus?obamacare?tax hikes on the top earners? increased drilling? education reform and increases in loans? etc.. this is part of the plan, in whole all of the ideas can be called a plan.

for example, Romney is apparently unaware of how recession causes gas prices to drop with poor demand.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/17/conservatives-remain-in-denial-after-obama-burs/190708

the fact they are increasing is actually a good sign, it is a recovery.



Increased loans? To whom and how? That is financial sectors job and they have been doing a very poor job with it.

Gasoline prices? Correlation does =/= causation. U.S. gasoline demand has been falling or flat at best.

Stimulus? That's a "plan?" No matter what you call it, the stimulus failed.

Education reform? I'll reluctantly give you that as he has actually proposed some decent things. But what has been implemented? And test scores, as far as I know, haven't really shown progress. But I admit standardized testing doesn't come close to telling the whole story and the reliance on them has hurt the education process.

Taxes on top earners? How does raising taxes on anyone help the economy?

Increased drilling? That is done by private companies. Plus the amount of total permits is down by a large % compared to several years ago.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 09:04:23 AM
So you honestly are unaware of all of the policies he has that effect the economy?

or are you just being offput by his lack of a 5 POINT PLAN!!!!!!.

the stimulus?obamacare?tax hikes on the top earners? increased drilling? education reform and increases in loans? etc.. this is part of the plan, in whole all of the ideas can be called a plan.

for example, Romney is apparently unaware of how recession causes gas prices to drop with poor demand.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/17/conservatives-remain-in-denial-after-obama-burs/190708

the fact they are increasing is actually a good sign, it is a recovery.




What are you smoking, Necrosis? That's all the CRAP he said and did beforehand, which (by his own standards) FAILED MISERABLY.

Is unemployment 5.5% as he said it would be? NO!

Did unemployment stay under 8%? NO!

Did he cut the deficit in half? NO!

Did he pass immigration reform? NO!

Did his signature legislation, ObamaCare, lower premiums as promised? NO!

Did he keep his word about not raising taxes on the middle class? NO!!

What about the "Shovel-ready jobs" routine? NO!

Education reform? GET REAL!! That's simply code for paying off his union buddies, while kids suffer in crappy schools.

Loans? BIG DEAL!! If they can't get jobs, once they graduate, they'll be flipping burgers with tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt.

Virtually none of Obama's policies have worked as advertised and the pitiful economy that remains is proof of that.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2012, 09:10:45 AM
Increased loans? To whom and how? That is financial sectors job and they have been doing a very poor job with it.

Gasoline prices? Correlation does =/= causation. U.S. gasoline demand has been falling or flat at best.

Stimulus? That's a "plan?" No matter what you call it, the stimulus failed.

Education reform? I'll reluctantly give you that as he has actually proposed some decent things. But what has been implemented? And test scores, as far as I know, haven't really shown progress. But I admit standardized testing doesn't come close to telling the whole story and the reliance on them has hurt the education process.

Taxes on top earners? How does raising taxes on anyone help the economy?

Increased drilling? That is done by private companies. Plus the amount of total permits is down by a large % compared to several years ago.



Why is everyone on media matters, the data is correct, attacking the source without attacking the data is a logical fallacy, done over and over on here.

http://conceptualmath.org/philo/taxgrowth.htm

stimulus was not a failure, many companies that would have failed have survived, some argue it was not big enough.

the number of permits is not down. accept this fabled federal lands lie that is on-going.

it appears taxing the rich more allows a plethora of things to occur, namely reduced burden on the middle class, the drivers of the economy, the job creators as economists like to call them, you know , small businesses.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 09:14:37 AM
Yes obama has no plan, His plan was just mutter about. He has clear plans and has clear objectives. it might be to complex for these tards to understand. The shiney 5 point plan based on a fucking lie which will rape the middle class as evidenced by his "studies" seems better.

anyone championing FOX as a placeholder for reality really needs to have their head checked. It is known as the worst of the worst, it is the biggest media disinformation source in the country, a proven fact.

I doubt MCWAY would concede anything, this is a guy who claims to have ultimate knowledge and the source of life and morals isn't up for debate.

he takes this approach with everything in life, no other option but his.

The head-checking falls on you, parroting Obama's plan which has flopped more than the Bills in the Super Bowl. The numbers prove it; the Dems getting destroyed in the midterms prove it.

And, Obama's failures have been chronicled OVER and OVER again. Yet, in pure doofus fashion, you keep running your mouth about Obama's policies leading to recovery.

Chew on this:

Is unemployment 5.5% as he said it would be? NO!

Did unemployment stay under 8%? NO!

Did he cut the deficit in half? NO!

Did he pass immigration reform? NO! (he had supermajority in the Senate and big majority in the House)

Did his signature legislation, ObamaCare, lower premiums as promised? NO!

Did he keep his word about not raising taxes on the middle class? NO!!

What about the "Shovel-ready jobs" routine? NO!
 
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: Fury on October 18, 2012, 09:15:44 AM
Increased loans? To whom and how? That is financial sectors job and they have been doing a very poor job with it.

Gasoline prices? Correlation does =/= causation. U.S. gasoline demand has been falling or flat at best.

Stimulus? That's a "plan?" No matter what you call it, the stimulus failed.

Education reform? I'll reluctantly give you that as he has actually proposed some decent things. But what has been implemented? And test scores, as far as I know, haven't really shown progress. But I admit standardized testing doesn't come close to telling the whole story and the reliance on them has hurt the education process.

Taxes on top earners? How does raising taxes on anyone help the economy?

Increased drilling? That is done by private companies. Plus the amount of total permits is down by a large % compared to several years ago.



LOLPWNT.
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 09:17:48 AM
Why is everyone on media matters, the data is correct, attacking the source without attacking the data is a logical fallacy, done over and over on here.

http://conceptualmath.org/philo/taxgrowth.htm

stimulus was not a failure, many companies that would have failed have survived, some argue it was not big enough.

WRONG!! Stimulus was supposed to keep unemployment under 8%.....FAILURE (it's only under 8% now, because people aren't counted when they stopped looking for work AND California didn't report their numbers two weeks ago).


the number of permits is not down. accept this fabled federal lands lie that is on-going.

Strike two.


it appears taxing the rich more allows a plethora of things to occur, namely reduced burden on the middle class, the drivers of the economy, the job creators as economists like to call them, you know , small businesses.

Taxing the rich isn't going to do anything, except have the rich take their money and run, NOT HIRE PEOPLE, and eventually have taxes raised on ALL OF US, because the revenue won't be there.

If this crap actually worked, Spain, Portugal, Greece, and other such countries wouldn't have UE rates in the stratosphere.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: GigantorX on October 18, 2012, 09:26:29 AM
Why is everyone on media matters, the data is correct, attacking the source without attacking the data is a logical fallacy, done over and over on here.

http://conceptualmath.org/philo/taxgrowth.htm

stimulus was not a failure, many companies that would have failed have survived, some argue it was not big enough.

the number of permits is not down. accept this fabled federal lands lie that is on-going.

it appears taxing the rich more allows a plethora of things to occur, namely reduced burden on the middle class, the drivers of the economy, the job creators as economists like to call them, you know , small businesses.

How does raising taxes on the rich decrease the burden on the middle class?

And remember, according the Obama Admin, "millionaires" and "rich" are those people/families making more than 200k.

And the stimulus was a "success?" How exactly?

-Welfare Use. UP
-Govt. dependence among the population. UP
-U.I. Filings. Back UP and averaging 350k plus per week.
-GDP. DOWN or flat lining
-U.E. around 8% with U-6 at 14.7%

Also, please explain what companies "would have went under" if it weren't for the stimulus bill?
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 09:30:50 AM
On a slightly different note.

Romney's up two is Rasmussen, up four in Gallup, and FOR THE FIRST TIME, LEADS OBAMA in the EC count on RealClearPolitics, 206-201.

As I figured would happen, North Carolina has moved from "Toss up" to "Lean Romney".

So much for that so-called raping.

Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 19, 2012, 04:22:35 AM
are you referring to the guy who begs me to respond to his posts and even puts my name in the thread title of his posts in the hope that I will notice him

maybe you're referring to yourself when you piss and moan that I don't respond to your posts as if you expect me to go look for your inane comments

btw - if you think I spend hours on here maybe you should look at my daily average # of posts as it's very close to the same # as yours


Fury does this all the time. When he cant debate anymore he accuses you of being an internet nerd.
Even though he is the one with the most posts. Sounds like Romney, huh? Just lie your ass of and if you get caught lie some more.
Pathetic
Title: Re: Romney got raped
Post by: whork on October 19, 2012, 04:42:42 AM
Yes obama has no plan, His plan was just mutter about. He has clear plans and has clear objectives. it might be to complex for these tards to understand. The shiney 5 point plan based on a fucking lie which will rape the middle class as evidenced by his "studies" seems better.

anyone championing FOX as a placeholder for reality really needs to have their head checked. It is known as the worst of the worst, it is the biggest media disinformation source in the country, a proven fact. I doubt MCWAY would concede anything, this is a guy who claims to have ultimate knowledge and the source of life and morals isn't up for debate.

he takes this approach with everything in life, no other option but his.

This. I cant beieve MCway is this dumb.