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Title: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 12:43:40 PM
 ???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16. "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.

Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Raymondo on October 18, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
Do you mean to say politicians contradict themselves?

By God! Who would have thought!
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 12:47:28 PM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16. "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.



I think he's referring to the fact that he'll work towards a business friendly environment in which jobs can be created.  He won't attempt to literally create jobs like President Barack Obama.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: POB on October 18, 2012, 12:52:53 PM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16. "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.



BOOM
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 12:54:35 PM
Has to be your worst presidential candidate ever. He's constantly mocked hard in European news coverage.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Heywood on October 18, 2012, 12:56:43 PM
I think he's referring to the fact that he'll work towards a business friendly environment in which jobs can be created.  He won't attempt to literally create jobs like President Barack Obama.

Exactly.  Try Obamacare.

Obama scares the shit out of business with regulations.  Congress repeals a provision, and the Obama govt goes ahead and promulgates new rules and regulations anyway.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:58:03 PM
Has to be your worst presidential candidate ever. He's constantly mocked hard in European news coverage.

LOL - as we watch you morons turning over cars and setting fires because the welfare gravy train is ending.   
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 12:59:19 PM
LOL - as we watch you morons turning over cars and setting fires because the welfare gravy train is ending.   

Do not lol me plain civilian
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Has to be your worst presidential candidate ever. He's constantly mocked hard in European news coverage.
This might be an indication that he will be President...
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:02:39 PM
This might be an indication that he will be President...

Americans usually choose the biggest fool so yes, definitely.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:02:52 PM
Exactly.  Try Obamacare.

Obama scares the shit out of business with regulations.  Congress repeals a provision, and the Obama govt goes ahead and promulgates new rules and regulations anyway.

obama administration has passed far fewer business regulations in first 4 years years than bush did in his first 4 years. obama administration has also helped towns and business by listening to their concerns about certain regulations which were unnecessary and harmful by repealing them.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 01:04:56 PM
obama administration has passed far fewer business regulations in first 4 years years than bush did in his first 4 years. obama administration has also helped towns and business by listening to their concerns about certain regulations which were unnecessary and harmful by repealing them.

Comparing him to Bush doesn't say much.  :-X
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 01:06:04 PM
obama administration has passed far fewer business regulations in first 4 years years than bush did in his first 4 years. obama administration has also helped towns and business by listening to their concerns about certain regulations which were unnecessary and harmful by repealing them.

Which regulation did obama remove?
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:09:13 PM
Which regulation did obama remove?

The one that gives religious Rednecks the right to speak
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:09:28 PM
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
The one that gives religious Rednecks the right to speak


Funny - leftists socialists and euroPEEONS hate free speech typically. 
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:11:14 PM
I hate speech in it's entirety. Only I need to talk.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:12:52 PM
Which regulation did obama remove?
removed the need for truck drivers to fill out about 32 million forms annually. repealed requirement for municipalities to make sure Main street signs are bigger than other street signs (saving millions of dollars nationally).. etc... watch the video i posted..
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2012, 01:13:02 PM
The one that gives religious Rednecks the right to speak

haha
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Heywood on October 18, 2012, 01:13:07 PM
obama administration has passed far fewer business regulations in first 4 years years than bush did in his first 4 years. obama administration has also helped towns and business by listening to their concerns about certain regulations which were unnecessary and harmful by repealing them.

Obama essentially reversed the 1099 Taxpayer Protection Act of 2011, which did away with the fucking crazy 1099 rules in Obamacare and new 1099 rules for landlords.  

Unless you are in business and/or deal directly with business owners, you don't know.

Don't tell me some bullshit statistics.  Obama lies like the "muslim video" deal....
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: dr.chimps on October 18, 2012, 01:15:55 PM
Candidates lie? When did all this start?
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:16:17 PM
 ::) obama didnt lie about libya. if you want your opinion on political issues to be taken seriously you need to be objective and not spew bullshit talking points that misrepresent the opposition and are outright false.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:17:32 PM
You should know that being objective is inherently impossible for people that believe in God tbombz
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:20:25 PM
You should know that being objective is inherently impossible for people that believe in God tbombz
causality my friend.. look it up.. consider the implications
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 01:20:53 PM
He's constantly mocked hard in European news coverage.
Good thing we're not Europe and couldn't give a shit less what Europeans think.  :D
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
causality my friend.. look it up.. consider the implications

Works both ways just fine. People who believe are not able to be objective, people who are objective are not able to believe.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:30:54 PM
Works both ways just fine. People who believe are not able to be objective, people who are objective are not able to believe.
you didnt understand me... causality in terms of what causes things to happen.. including the universe..      your statement about objectivity and belief might be true but it depends on how you define "believe"
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:31:49 PM
Believe in something that doesn't exist, whatever that may be.

Examples include but are not limited to: God, Muhammed, ghosts, zombies.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:32:18 PM
you didnt understand me... causality in terms of what causes things to happen.. including the universe..      your statement about objectivity and belief might be true but it depends on how you define "believe"
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Heywood on October 18, 2012, 01:34:41 PM
::) obama didnt lie about libya. if you want your opinion on political issues to be taken seriously you need to be objective and not spew bullshit talking points that misrepresent the opposition and are outright false.

uh, yeah.  Libya was all legit.....

sorry.......



Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:36:13 PM


"causality in terms of"? Causality is causality!
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:38:23 PM
Believe in something that doesn't exist, whatever that may be.

Examples include but are not limited to: God, Muhammed, ghosts, zombies.
you dont know what you dont know.


uh, yeah.  Libya was all legit.....

sorry.......




day one = tragic event, happened during protests over video, unsure about details.

day two= tragic event, unsure of details, no justification for it, act of terror

next week or so = unsure of details, can not say yet whether it was planned ahead of time, happened at same time as protests over video so thats a possibility it was related to those

two weeks= finally the intelligence community comes to conclusion, pre meditated, act of terror.

report comes out that embassy wanted extra security.. was denied by STATE DEPARTMENT..  not the president..
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 01:39:00 PM
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 18, 2012, 01:40:15 PM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16. "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.



The government doesn't, the private sector does. Civil servants are worthless. Most government jobs should be privatized, it would force competition.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:40:27 PM
"causality in terms of"? Causality is causality!
is it real? if so, what caused the universe?  ;)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:41:09 PM
The Big Bang.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:42:17 PM
thats not an answer! big bang happened INSIDE the universe. it was a part of the universe. what caused the big bang to happen?  ;)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:48:28 PM
Energy? I'm not a cosmologist, I can only follow what they have to say on these matters.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:51:44 PM
Energy? I'm not a cosmologist, I can only follow what they have to say on these matters.
its not a scientific issue, its a philosophical one. sccience cant speak on it. no matter what scientists prove to be true, one can always ask "well what causes that to be true?" ... so the big bang happened.. what caused it to happen?  some kind of energy ? ok, well what caused that energy to behave in that way ? oh, so thats what caused it.. well what caused that ? ad infinitum  ;)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 01:52:30 PM
Energy? I'm not a cosmologist, I can only follow what they have to say on these matters.
I think his point is that we don't know yet.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
I think his point is that we don't know yet.
can never know..  A1! why? B2! why? C3! why? D4! why? ...ad infinitum
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:59:03 PM

hey look, sodomize & murder our ambassador....no problemo', it's all good......
ur right.. arresting the people involved isnt enough... we ought to nuke libya
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
We'll know one day and the answer won't be God  8)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
We'll know one day and the answer won't be God  8)
I agree with Taylor... I don't think we'll ever have a definitive answer. There will always be a "what caused/created this?"
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 02:03:48 PM
We'll know one day and the answer won't be God  8)
you dont get it. we can never know what caused the universe to exist. no matter what we find out, we always have more questions. if you find out X, ill ask: where did X come from? why does X happen? what causes X to be X? what came before X?  ;)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
I agree with Taylor... I don't think we'll ever have a definitive answer. There will always be a "what caused/created this?"
:)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 02:05:24 PM
You can ask questions all you want, if we come to the definite truth, that is it.

I studied philosophy, philosophy has it's place when there is no science to go by. Once the science is there, philosophy (should) ends.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 02:07:28 PM
You can ask questions all you want, if we come to the definite truth, that is it.

I studied philosophy, philosophy has it's place when there is no science to go by. Once the science is there, philosophy (should) ends.
Of course, but there will never be a definitive answer. Will always will be that next question.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
Of course, but there will never be a definitive answer. Will always will be that next question.

There will be. Unfortunately, we won't be around anymore  :(
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 02:10:13 PM
There will be. Unfortunately, we won't be around anymore  :(
I imagine humanity will be wiped out by some natural disaster long before we ever figure it out.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: deadz on October 18, 2012, 02:10:22 PM
Time will straighten out this economy. Neither of these fools will. HTH!
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: _bruce_ on October 18, 2012, 02:11:06 PM
Romno gets a bad rep in the euro media because they shit on anything remotely connected to Christianity.
The end.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 02:18:59 PM
Romno gets a bad rep in the euro media because they shit on anything remotely connected to Christianity.
The end.
Uh, Romney is not a Christian, genius.  :-\
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Heywood on October 18, 2012, 02:20:17 PM
you dont know what you dont know.

 day one = tragic event, happened during protests over video, unsure about details.

day two= tragic event, unsure of details, no justification for it, act of terror

next week or so = unsure of details, can not say yet whether it was planned ahead of time, happened at same time as protests over video so thats a possibility it was related to those

two weeks= finally the intelligence community comes to conclusion, pre meditated, act of terror.

report comes out that embassy wanted extra security.. was denied by STATE DEPARTMENT..  not the president..


this is what was said in context:

MS. RICE:  Well, David, we can’t predict with any certainty.  But let’s remember what has transpired over the last several days.  This is a response to a hateful and offensive video that was widely disseminated throughout the Arab and Muslim world.  Obviously, our view is that there is absolutely no excuse for violence and that-- what has happened is condemnable, but this is a-- a spontaneous reaction to a video, and it’s not dissimilar but, perhaps, on a slightly larger scale than what we have seen in the past with The Satanic Verses with the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.  Now, the United States has made very clear and the president has been very plain that our top priority is the protection of American personnel in our facilities and bringing to justice those who…

This is what was said, asshole.  The "Act of Terror" was a successful word-search of one of Obama's teleprompter speeches.    Good luck with your bullshit......"act of terror", indeed.....
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
Uh, Romney is not a Christian, genius.  :-\
I think thats why he said "Even remotely connected", especially since republicans all get labeled Christian whackjobs.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tonymctones on October 18, 2012, 03:54:50 PM
I think he's referring to the fact that he'll work towards a business friendly environment in which jobs can be created.  He won't attempt to literally create jobs like President Barack Obama.
that to complex of a concept for true ass hat or the liberal goof troop to understand.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 18, 2012, 05:45:25 PM
Uh, Romney is not a Christian, genius.  :-\

I was under the impression Mormons worshipped/believed in Christ. Wouldn't that lump them in with Christians?
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Princess L on October 18, 2012, 05:50:59 PM
you dont know what you dont know.

 day one = tragic event, happened during protests over video, unsure about details.

day two= tragic event, unsure of details, no justification for it, act of terror

next week or so = unsure of details, can not say yet whether it was planned ahead of time, happened at same time as protests over video so thats a possibility it was related to those

two weeks= finally the intelligence community comes to conclusion, pre meditated, act of terror.

report comes out that embassy wanted extra security.. was denied by STATE DEPARTMENT..  not the president..

THE FACTS:
The Washington Post 's Fact Checker: Obama Did Not Say "Terrorism" In The Rose Garden And "It Took The Administration Days To Concede That That It Was An 'Act Of Terrorism'" Unrelated To The Video. "What did Obama say in the Rose Garden a day after the attack in Libya? 'No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this nation,' he said. But he did not say 'terrorism'-and it took the administration days to concede that that it was an 'act of terrorism' that appears unrelated to initial reports of anger at a video that defamed the prophet Muhammad." (Glenn Kessler, "Fact Check: Libya Attack,"

THE FACTS: Politico 's Mike Allen: In The Rose Garden, Obama Said "Very Generally, We Will Not Let Acts Of Terror Go Unpunished." POLITICO's MIKE ALLEN: "There's going to be a bunch of fact checks, but just to do a fact check here. When Governor Romney said that Obama had been slow in calling the Libya attack terrorism and the President said 'oh wait a minute, in the Rose Garden, the day after, I referred to an act of terror', Candy Crowley stepped in and said that he was right. It's actually arguable. And I'm looking at the transcript of that White House event the day after and he started by referring to them as selfless acts, which is casted very differently than the sort of very planned action that we now have. Later toward the end, he makes a reference to 9/11 and he says, very generally, we will not let acts of terror go unpunished.

 LIES and MISDIRECTION: the day after the attacks In The Rose Garden, Obama said very generally, "We will not let acts of terror go unpunished."  There is a world of difference between an "act of terror" and terrorism. We saw an Act of terror in an AMC Colorado movie theater! That was NOT terrorism.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Straw Man on October 18, 2012, 05:58:56 PM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16. "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.

LOL - just covering all the bases
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 06:45:12 PM
I was under the impression Mormons worshipped/believed in Christ. Wouldn't that lump them in with Christians?
They don`t worship Christ.  They worship Joseph Smith.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tu_holmes on October 18, 2012, 06:47:19 PM
They don`t worship Christ.  They worship Joseph Smith.

Their Jesus isn't the regular Jesus anyway.

They say Jesus has already come back and walked the North American Continent... So that would be the exact opposite of what the Christian faith believes would have happened to Jesus after his resurrection.

Can't be the same religion.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 18, 2012, 07:29:37 PM
They don`t worship Christ.  They worship Joseph Smith.

Same thing as worshipping a pope to me. All of it seems silly.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tu_holmes on October 18, 2012, 07:58:29 PM
Same thing as worshipping a pope to me. All of it seems silly.

It is silly, but technically, catholics don't worship the pope... They believe he is God's voice on earth.

Still silly, but definitely a distinction.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 19, 2012, 06:10:42 AM
It is silly, but technically, catholics don't worship the pope... They believe he is God's voice on earth.

Still silly, but definitely a distinction.

At his debate, Romney said he worships god and Jesus, am I missing something?  Not trying to argue it with you guys, I just don't see the difference between one or the other. 
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: whork on October 19, 2012, 06:26:25 AM
At his debate, Romney said he worships god and Jesus, am I missing something?  Not trying to argue it with you guys, I just don't see the difference between one or the other. 

Like the differences in act of terror" and terrorism ;)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 19, 2012, 06:29:12 AM
I imagine humanity will be wiped out by some natural disaster long before we ever figure it out.

Better start building that ark now.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: whork on October 19, 2012, 06:31:28 AM
I imagine humanity will be wiped out by some natural disaster long before we ever figure it out.

Its called the Republican party :P
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Shockwave on October 19, 2012, 07:12:54 AM
Better start building that ark now.
Don't think an ark will stop an asteroid.... Or would it?
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 19, 2012, 07:49:50 AM
Don't think an ark will stop an asteroid.... Or would it?

With proper quantum deflector shields maybe.  Or lots of prayer.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 19, 2012, 09:44:32 AM
Its called the Republican party :P

How so?
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 19, 2012, 10:07:25 AM
At his debate, Romney said he worships god and Jesus, am I missing something?  Not trying to argue it with you guys, I just don't see the difference between one or the other. 
That never happened.  They don`t worship Jesus and he would never say that he did, being a Mormon.  Where did you get this from?  I suspect alot of people don`t realize that his religion is even more batshit than batshit Christianity and thats hard to outdo.

For instance, he wears magic underwear with the private parts only cut out when having sex, believes that he will inherit a planet when he dies and that Jesus, whom he does not worship, lives on a made up planet called Kolob. 

Perhaps you should research Joseph Smith and Mormonism a bit more.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 19, 2012, 10:08:10 AM
Oh and no drinking anything, not even caffeine.  :D
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 19, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
Hey TA - Obama promised EU would be sub 6 by now.   how did that work out? 

Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 19, 2012, 10:23:40 AM
Hey TA - Obama promised EU would be sub 6 by now.   how did that work out? 


Unemployment will never go down no matter who is president as long as people keep breeding.  With that said:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/18/mitt-romney/romney-repeats-claim-obama-promised-unemployment-w/

Romney repeats claim that Obama promised unemployment would not exceed 8 percent
(http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/rulings%2Ftom-mostlyfalse.gif)
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 19, 2012, 10:25:26 AM
Unemployment will never go down no matter who is president as long as people keep breeding.  With that said:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/18/mitt-romney/romney-repeats-claim-obama-promised-unemployment-w/

Romney repeats claim that Obama promised unemployment would not exceed 8 percent
(http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/rulings%2Ftom-mostlyfalse.gif)

Answer the question. 

Obama specifically promised that if we passed his program , which we did, UE would be at sub 6%.   how did that work out? 
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 19, 2012, 10:27:59 AM
Answer the question.  

Obama specifically promised that if we passed his program , which we did, UE would be at sub 6%.   how did that work out?  
Obama didn’t say that. Rather, his Council of Economic Advisers predicted that the stimulus would hold it to that level. Their report included heavy disclaimers that the projections had "significant margins of error" and a high degree of uncertainty due to a recession that is "unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity."
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 19, 2012, 10:30:23 AM
Obama didn’t say that. Rather, his Council of Economic Advisers predicted that the stimulus would hold it to that level. Their report included heavy disclaimers that the projections had "significant margins of error" and a high degree of uncertainty due to a recession that is "unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity."

Whatever.   You refuse to hold obama to the same standard you want to hold mittens for unknown reasons. 
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: The True Adonis on October 19, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
Whatever.   You refuse to hold obama to the same standard you want to hold mittens for unknown reasons. 
Oh I hold them both to the same standard.  Mittens, when governor of Massachusetts,  was not bad at all.  In fact, he was way more liberal than many currently sitting Democrats in Congress.  That Mitt Romney is not such a bad and honest guy. 

The Mitt Romney that he isn`t and doesn`t want to be and the one that the Republican party expects him to be are at complete odds.   The true Mitt Romney is a liberal, the fake Mitt Romney is a machination trying to get votes.

I don`t like that uncertainty.  Especially since he has decided to appeal to the Republicans with lies and myths that work well as they are pretty stupid.  He knows this, and I hate that he resorted to that.

Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: tu_holmes on October 19, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
Oh I hold them both to the same standard.  Mittens, when governor of Massachusetts,  was not bad at all.  In fact, he was way more liberal than many currently sitting Democrats in Congress.  That Mitt Romney is not such a bad and honest guy. 

The Mitt Romney that he isn`t and doesn`t want to be and the one that the Republican party expects him to be are at complete odds.   The true Mitt Romney is a liberal, the fake Mitt Romney is a machination trying to get votes.

I don`t like that uncertainty.  Especially since he has decided to appeal to the Republicans with lies and myths that work well as they are pretty stupid.  He knows this, and I hate that he resorted to that.



I can agree with this on  many levels... Just because you are a member of a party and the party decides to have some arbitrary policy doesn't change who you are.

At least Obama is honest about what he is.

Mitt is lying on EVERY level it seems.

I'd rather have the 2000 McCain running.
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: whork on October 19, 2012, 01:44:03 PM
Oh I hold them both to the same standard.  Mittens, when governor of Massachusetts,  was not bad at all.  In fact, he was way more liberal than many currently sitting Democrats in Congress.  That Mitt Romney is not such a bad and honest guy. 

The Mitt Romney that he isn`t and doesn`t want to be and the one that the Republican party expects him to be are at complete odds.   The true Mitt Romney is a liberal, the fake Mitt Romney is a machination trying to get votes.

I don`t like that uncertainty.  Especially since he has decided to appeal to the Republicans with lies and myths that work well as they are pretty stupid.  He knows this, and I hate that he resorted to that.



Nice
Title: Re: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16
Post by: Condor on October 19, 2012, 06:15:42 PM
Oh I hold them both to the same standard.  Mittens, when governor of Massachusetts,  was not bad at all.  In fact, he was way more liberal than many currently sitting Democrats in Congress.  That Mitt Romney is not such a bad and honest guy. 

The Mitt Romney that he isn`t and doesn`t want to be and the one that the Republican party expects him to be are at complete odds.   The true Mitt Romney is a liberal, the fake Mitt Romney is a machination trying to get votes.

I don`t like that uncertainty.  Especially since he has decided to appeal to the Republicans with lies and myths that work well as they are pretty stupid.  He knows this, and I hate that he resorted to that.



I suggest reading "The Paradoxes of the American Presidency" (Cronin, Genovese) to help better understand that what it takes to become president doesn't necessarily equate to what it takes to BE president.