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Title: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2013, 09:44:57 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/22/17057708-sources-us-department-of-justice-to-join-lawsuit-against-lance-armstrong

Lance Armstrong faces a powerful new adversary -- the United States government.

The Justice Department will notify a federal court Friday that it is joining one of his former racing teammates in suing him for using performance-enhancing drugs during the Tour de France, legal sources told NBC News.

The government is signing on to a lawsuit filed two years ago by Floyd Landis, one of Armstrong's former Tour de France teammates who has already admitted cheating. Among its claims: Landis saw Armstrong store and then re-inject his own blood to boost his performance, and Armstrong twice gave Landis banned hormones before races.

The government’s legal theory in joining the lawsuit is that when Armstrong agreed to race for the U.S. Postal Service team a decade ago in the Tour de France, he defrauded the government, violating its strict ban on illegal drugs, all the while claiming he did not use them.
 


Though the government’s action presents a serious new legal threat to Armstrong, the Justice Department case is not foolproof: Legal experts say Armstrong could argue that his contract with the team owners never explicitly prohibited blood doping, and he could claim that he never signed any agreement directly with the Postal Service that banned the practice.

But if the government wins, Armstrong could face huge fines, because the Postal Service paid at least $30 million to sponsor his racing teams.

Armstrong's attorney, Robert Luskin, said in a statement Friday that the Postal Service had no losses deserving of compensation.

"Lance and his representatives worked constructively over these last weeks with federal lawyers to resolve this case fairly, but those talks failed because we disagree about whether the Postal Service was damaged," Luskin said. "The Postal's Services own studies show that the Service benefited tremendously from its sponsorship -- benefits totaling more than $100 million."


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Typical Obama Admn
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 22, 2013, 09:48:23 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/22/17057708-sources-us-department-of-justice-to-join-lawsuit-against-lance-armstrong

Lance Armstrong faces a powerful new adversary -- the United States government.

The Justice Department will notify a federal court Friday that it is joining one of his former racing teammates in suing him for using performance-enhancing drugs during the Tour de France, legal sources told NBC News.

The government is signing on to a lawsuit filed two years ago by Floyd Landis, one of Armstrong's former Tour de France teammates who has already admitted cheating. Among its claims: Landis saw Armstrong store and then re-inject his own blood to boost his performance, and Armstrong twice gave Landis banned hormones before races.

The government’s legal theory in joining the lawsuit is that when Armstrong agreed to race for the U.S. Postal Service team a decade ago in the Tour de France, he defrauded the government, violating its strict ban on illegal drugs, all the while claiming he did not use them.
 


Though the government’s action presents a serious new legal threat to Armstrong, the Justice Department case is not foolproof: Legal experts say Armstrong could argue that his contract with the team owners never explicitly prohibited blood doping, and he could claim that he never signed any agreement directly with the Postal Service that banned the practice.

But if the government wins, Armstrong could face huge fines, because the Postal Service paid at least $30 million to sponsor his racing teams.

Armstrong's attorney, Robert Luskin, said in a statement Friday that the Postal Service had no losses deserving of compensation.

"Lance and his representatives worked constructively over these last weeks with federal lawyers to resolve this case fairly, but those talks failed because we disagree about whether the Postal Service was damaged," Luskin said. "The Postal's Services own studies show that the Service benefited tremendously from its sponsorship -- benefits totaling more than $100 million."


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Typical Obama Admn



They may want to be careful.  When you point your finger at someone, there's always 3 more pointing back at you.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: G_Thang on February 22, 2013, 09:51:21 AM
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Why not the NFL?  99% of the league is doped.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2013, 09:51:37 AM
Go after bankers who committed mass fraud?  Nope

Go after Armstrong ?   Full steam ahead
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Dr.J on February 22, 2013, 10:19:01 AM
Go after bankers who committed mass fraud?  Nope

Go after Armstrong ?   Full steam ahead

X10
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 22, 2013, 10:49:54 AM
Go after bankers who committed mass fraud?  Nope

Go after Armstrong ?   Full steam ahead


Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Tapeworm on February 22, 2013, 11:13:03 AM
Go after bankers who committed mass fraud?  Nope

Go after Armstrong ?   Full steam ahead

We agree!
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Shockwave on February 22, 2013, 11:22:26 AM
Wat

Why US why

US stahp.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: SilverSpoon on February 22, 2013, 11:29:27 AM
Go after bankers who committed mass fraud?  Nope

Go after Armstrong ?   Full steam ahead

The two are mutually exclusive.

Why shouldn't the government go after both?
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 22, 2013, 11:33:00 AM
Go after bankers who committed mass fraud?  Nope

Go after Armstrong ?   Full steam ahead

X Millions, Billions, and Trillions.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2013, 11:34:23 AM
The two are mutually exclusive.

Why shouldn't the government go after both?

Prosecutorial Discretion and Judicial Economy

He is already being sued by other entities, why waste the resources when you have companies like HSBC admitting laundering billions of drug $$$$$ getting away with it openly?   
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 22, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
Absolutely.  Focus the resources - NOW.  Take care of this issue - NOW.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: SilverSpoon on February 22, 2013, 11:39:27 AM
Prosecutorial Discretion and Judicial Economy

He is already being sued by other entities, why waste the resources when you have companies like HSBC admitting laundering billions of drug $$$$$ getting away with it openly?   

I cannot deny your "judicial economy" argument, but because the DOJ is joining a suit, they more than likely will not have to waste too much manpower on the Armstrong case.  Personally, if I were the counsel for Landis, I would appreciate the DOJ resources, but would want the DOJ to stay out of my way, as they have a proven track record of messing things up (Bonds, Clemens, etc)

HSBC should be presecuted to the fullest extent of the law.  How can we have brokers there "earning" (I use that term loosely) 7 figure bonuses when they are getting bailed out, sitting on the bail out money and earning interest on it (i.e. not loaning any of it), and then laundering huge sums?  Heads should be rolling, but then the public would be made aware that the entire stock market is a castle made of sand, and it would cause mass hysteria.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 22, 2013, 11:39:53 AM
Focus is placed upon these other things specifically to remove focus from the real problems.  Why in hell do you think media loves to look so hard at the petty shit, and to dwell upon it in such a way?
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 22, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
Let these fag "bicyclists" shoot all the drugs they want, in peace.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Jack T. Cross on February 22, 2013, 12:02:10 PM
So ridiculous, having Holder as AG.  That tells you everything you need to know.
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: disco_stu on February 22, 2013, 12:20:41 PM
the guy's a cheat...and a liar...everything he has was gained on those lies and cheats.

easy solution, strip everything from him and split it amongst those he lied to.

leave him in a position of where he would be if he didnt have all that success..and make sure anything gained from his notoriety goes to charity.

Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Voice of Doom on February 22, 2013, 12:21:38 PM
WTF is the post office doing spending $30million advertising on cycling?  how much of that was tax payer funded????
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: viking1 on February 22, 2013, 01:15:11 PM
Yeah, maybe this will keep mail delivered on saturdays ...  yip yip jiggas
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: HTexan on February 22, 2013, 01:36:02 PM
::)

Why not the NFL?  99% of the league is doped.
Nfl actually does great testing compare to all other pro sports.  
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Marty Champions on February 22, 2013, 02:34:34 PM
lance should just file bankruptcy and do some painting for the falcon
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Rudee on February 22, 2013, 08:11:04 PM
Eddie would be proud of Lance. 

(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/rWN1chp8qyg/mqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 22, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
That is pathetic.  Shows how BROKE the government really is.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/22/17057708-sources-us-department-of-justice-to-join-lawsuit-against-lance-armstrong

Lance Armstrong faces a powerful new adversary -- the United States government.

The Justice Department will notify a federal court Friday that it is joining one of his former racing teammates in suing him for using performance-enhancing drugs during the Tour de France, legal sources told NBC News.

The government is signing on to a lawsuit filed two years ago by Floyd Landis, one of Armstrong's former Tour de France teammates who has already admitted cheating. Among its claims: Landis saw Armstrong store and then re-inject his own blood to boost his performance, and Armstrong twice gave Landis banned hormones before races.

The government’s legal theory in joining the lawsuit is that when Armstrong agreed to race for the U.S. Postal Service team a decade ago in the Tour de France, he defrauded the government, violating its strict ban on illegal drugs, all the while claiming he did not use them.
 


Though the government’s action presents a serious new legal threat to Armstrong, the Justice Department case is not foolproof: Legal experts say Armstrong could argue that his contract with the team owners never explicitly prohibited blood doping, and he could claim that he never signed any agreement directly with the Postal Service that banned the practice.

But if the government wins, Armstrong could face huge fines, because the Postal Service paid at least $30 million to sponsor his racing teams.

Armstrong's attorney, Robert Luskin, said in a statement Friday that the Postal Service had no losses deserving of compensation.

"Lance and his representatives worked constructively over these last weeks with federal lawyers to resolve this case fairly, but those talks failed because we disagree about whether the Postal Service was damaged," Luskin said. "The Postal's Services own studies show that the Service benefited tremendously from its sponsorship -- benefits totaling more than $100 million."


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Typical Obama Admn
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: che on February 22, 2013, 09:03:30 PM
Nfl actually does great testing compare to the IFBB

FIXED
Title: Re: D.O.J. set to sue Lance Armstrong
Post by: AbrahamG on February 22, 2013, 09:04:55 PM
Drugs or no drugs, Lance Armstrong has a mighty, mighty cock.