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I love classic footage!
Many of Andre's stats were exaggerated, but so are most guys'.
We'd laugh our asses off in the late 80's when Hogan would talk about Andre in promos. Every time Hulk recalled slamming and beating him at WMIII, Andre was bigger and heavier each time.
Hogan would have made a great fisherman.
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I know they say most of andre's stats were exaggerated, but I saw him live fairly close up several times in toronto in 89 (against Warrior) and he was massive. sig. taller than the rest of the guys too, even if he wasn't actually 7 foot 4
I met Hulk at Tampa airport in 1990 and he was super tall too, but had cowboy boots on at the time lol
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I know they say most of andre's stats were exaggerated, but I saw him live fairly close up several times in toronto in 89 (against Warrior) and he was massive. sig. taller than the rest of the guys too, even if he wasn't actually 7 foot 4
I met Hulk at Tampa airport in 1990 and he was super tall too, but had cowboy boots on at the time lol
Trademark snakeskin cowboy boots with red tights in public. ;D
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I want to know what kind of metal that is that weights 2,000 pounds, yet isn't much bigger than a basketball.
Awesome clip!!
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Pah but does he know ground game?Id just take him to the ground and sort him out!
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andre died in 1993 . he could tuern a car over . with people inside . and he bodyslammed big john studd . eventhough bodyslam is helped a bit . he never trained with weights . but had great size .
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There is a story about Andre getting pissed at someone and slamming his fist down on a solid oak bar and breaking it in 2.
Guy was ridiculously big and strong.
Paul Wight is also ridiculously huge... I shook his hand and my hand was a little baby hand in his. I can only believe that Andre would have been the same.
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andre died in 1993 . he could tuern a car over . with people inside . and he bodyslammed big john studd . eventhough bodyslam is helped a bit . he never trained with weights . but had great size .
And, most of the time, the guy was totally tanked. According to stories, Andre was loaded (his usual state) when he overturned that car outside a bar. Imagine what he could have done with training and focus, or even just sober!
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And, most of the time, the guy was totally tanked. According to stories, Andre was loaded (his usual state) when he overturned that car outside a bar. Imagine what he could have done with training and focus, or even just sober!
I didnt know he was a drinker interesting, what was his win/loss record all time do you know?
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I didnt know he was a drinker interesting, what was his win/loss record all time do you know?
Oh yeah, he was a BIG drinker. Watch the documentary above when you have time. At the 33:00 mark, Vince tells the story of when Andre had his back surgery and the anesthesiologist couldn't figure out how much anesthesia to give him, so they equated it to how much booze it took Andre to "feel."
The whole documentary was well-done and at 37:45, you'll see footage of his ranch and cattle he raised.
As for the win/loss record, I'm honestly not sure. As with most things in pro-wrestling, it is probably greatly exaggerated and depends on who you ask. For instance, Vince billed Wrestle Mania III as Andre & Hogan's first encounter, while the two actually met years earlier at the big Shea Stadium event. WWF also hails Hulkster as the first to slam Andre, but others like Stan Hansen and Bill Eadie/Masked Superstar performed the feat prior. Hogan, however, probably slammed Andre when he was at his heaviest body weight and even tore a lat in the process.
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Oh yeah, he was a BIG drinker. Watch the documentary above when you have time. At the 33:00 mark, Vince tells the story of when Andre had his back surgery and the anesthesiologist couldn't figure out how much anesthesia to give him, so they equated it to how much booze it took Andre to "feel."
The whole documentary was well-done and at 37:45, you'll see footage of his ranch and cattle he raised.
As for the win/loss record, I'm honestly not sure. As with most things in pro-wrestling, it is probably greatly exaggerated and depends on who you ask. For instance, Vince billed Wrestle Mania III as Andre & Hogan's first encounter, while the two actually met years earlier at the big Shea Stadium event. WWF also hails Hulkster as the first to slam Andre, but others like Stan Hansen and Bill Eadie/Masked Superstar performed the feat prior. Hogan, however, probably slammed Andre when he was at his heaviest body weight and even tore a lat in the process.
I'll check it out. I didnt know he had ever been slammed. Of course as you know with wrestling he probably jumped a bit gave them momentum but even at that a strong feat.
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I'll check it out. I didnt know he had ever been slammed. Of course as you know with wrestling he probably jumped a bit gave them momentum but even at that a strong feat.
Yeah, it was a basic scoop-up bodyslam. Andre lifted his feet and posted with his right arm off of Hogan's thigh providing the assist. Even so, Andre was a very large and heavy person, and not in the best of shape at the time of that match. Hogan did have his work cut out for him, and is lucky he didn't have to pick up his balls off the ring mat afterwards.
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Oh yeah, he was a BIG drinker. Watch the documentary above when you have time. At the 33:00 mark, Vince tells the story of when Andre had his back surgery and the anesthesiologist couldn't figure out how much anesthesia to give him, so they equated it to how much booze it took Andre to "feel."
The whole documentary was well-done and at 37:45, you'll see footage of his ranch and cattle he raised.
As for the win/loss record, I'm honestly not sure. As with most things in pro-wrestling, it is probably greatly exaggerated and depends on who you ask. For instance, Vince billed Wrestle Mania III as Andre & Hogan's first encounter, while the two actually met years earlier at the big Shea Stadium event. WWF also hails Hulkster as the first to slam Andre, but others like Stan Hansen and Bill Eadie/Masked Superstar performed the feat prior. Hogan, however, probably slammed Andre when he was at his heaviest body weight and even tore a lat in the process.
A great video, I have been to Ellerbe NC before a small rural town. A great Gentle Giant he was just imagine the hell he went through everything had be special made for his size.
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A great video, I have been to Ellerbe NC before a small rural town. A great Gentle Giant he was just imagine the hell he went through everything had be special made for his size.
It's said that guests to Andre's house would often have to use two hands to turn the faucet handles. Most of that house was customized for Andre.
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Did Black Jack Mulligan ever put the claw hold on Andre? He had a large head I cant recall..
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yes he did i saw picture of this .
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Hogan tells great Andre stories. On some video he tells about Andre throwing beer cans at his head while he was driving. Very funny. Andre might not have been 7'4 but he was close. My dad was 6'2.
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Hogan tells great Andre stories. On some video he tells about Andre throwing beer cans at his head while he was driving. Very funny. Andre might not have been 7'4 but he was close. My dad was 6'2.
Didn't they say Andre lost a few inches of height after his back surgery? Between that and the old afro, he may have been 8 ft at one time! ;D
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in thwe last years he was grumpy and agressive not always nice . he was walking with crutches in 1992 .
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in thwe last years he was grumpy and agressive not always nice . he was walking with crutches in 1992 .
Yes, and even when he had the chance for a little privacy, he would usually turn it down. That goes back to something Vince McMahon Sr. told him many years before: "You have GOT to be the 'biggest man in the world.' You have to be seen in public. You need people to see and talk about you."
Many wrestlers had memberships to the VIP sections at various airports to escape annoying fans, but Andre alway remained in the open. The public got to him, though.
One thing he allegedly loved to do was fart in elevators. If there was an old lady present, he'd scowl at her to "stop it." ;D
He'd also often shit in bathtubs while visiting Japan because their hotel toilets were too small for him to use.
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Yes, and even when he had the chance for a little privacy, he would usually turn it down. That goes back to something Vince McMahon Sr. told him many years before: "You have GOT to be the 'biggest man in the world.' You have to be seen in public. You need people to see and talk about you."
Many wrestlers had memberships to the VIP sections at various airports to escape annoying fans, but Andre alway remained in the open. The public got to him, though.
One thing he allegedly loved to do was fart in elevators. If there was an old lady present, he'd scowl at her to "stop it." ;D
He'd also often shit in bathtubs while visiting Japan because their hotel toilets were too small for him to use.
LOL. Wonder how Andre slept on a bed there, probably didn't maybe on the floor.
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LOL. Wonder how Andre slept on a bed there, probably didn't maybe on the floor.
It wasn't easy for him to get around, and it only became harder as his weight shot up and his health declined.
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I'll check it out. I didnt know he had ever been slammed. Of course as you know with wrestling he probably jumped a bit gave them momentum but even at that a strong feat.
I saw Patera slam him at a house show in Asheville NC. Didn't Race do it one time as well?
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yes ken did it many times . atonino inoki even suceeded in this and hogan did body slam andre . there is a video on this . no small feat he was 479 pounds around . even more at the end .
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I saw Patera slam him at a house show in Asheville NC. Didn't Race do it one time as well?
I think Harley did it as well so good find.
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I think Harley did it as well so good find.
Harley and Patera were freaky strong. When they picked you up, you didn't need to give them an assist; most of the time they just did it. Steamboat once said he was in a match with Race. Steamers was selling on the floor just outside the ring. The spot called for Harley to pick up Ricky to the apron to bring him back into the ring. Rick said Harley just reached down over the top rope and pulled. Ricky didn't have time to help, and he didn't need to. And Harley never spent much time in the gym. He just had natural strength!
All that said, Hogan probably slammed Andre when the giant was at his heaviest. Regardless of how he did it, that's impressive.
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All that said, Hogan probably slammed Andre when the giant was at his heaviest. Regardless of how he did it, that's impressive.
Warrior may have slammed Andre when he was even heavier with less assisting:
check it out:
but this is not surprising since Ultimate Warrior was always better than Hogan anyway ;D
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Warrior may have slammed Andre when he was even heavier with less assisting:
check it out:
but this is not surprising since Ultimate Warrior was always better than Hogan anyway ;D
Good call! I forgot all about that.
Yes, Andre was bigger here, or at least as big as he was for the Hogan slam.
There was genuine heat between Andre and Hellwig, which may explain why Andre wasn't as helpful in their encounters.
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It shows, he is evidently not selling the splash ;D Apparently Hellwig used to go rough on clotheslines until Andre knocked him senseless for it
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It shows, he is evidently not selling the splash ;D Apparently Hellwig used to go rough on clotheslines until Andre knocked him senseless for it
Heenan tells that story the best!
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Good call! I forgot all about that.
Yes, Andre was bigger here, or at least as big as he was for the Hogan slam.
There was genuine heat between Andre and Hellwig, which may explain why Andre wasn't as helpful in their encounters.
What was their heat over? Any other stories?
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What was there heat over? Any other stories?
Nobody really cared for Hellwig. Andre wasn't thrilled to be working with him, and their working relationship was only made worse by the fact that Jim never gave Andre a chance to do one of his favorite spots in which he would take a couple of clotheslines and then get his arms tied up in the ropes.
Well, Ultimate Jim never backed off to let Andre hit the rope spot. The idiot just kept charging Andre, then going onto the next spot in the match. This went on for several matches. One night, Andre'd had enough and decided to stick his fist out as the Ultimate Prick made his usual charge. Hellwig's face bounced off of Andre's hand, legitimately knocking him senseless.
The next night, Ultimate Jim charged very gingerly at Andre, giving him ample room and time to happily tangle his arms.
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its worth noting as corroborating evidence about the heat between Ultimate and Andre was the fact that Andre cleanly pinned warrior in japan.
he sat on him and didn't let warrior up for the three count.
doubt that was supposed to happen, but Andre probably said "fuck it" and pinned him.
the match is on youtube somewhere
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Nobody really cared for Hellwig. Andre wasn't thrilled to be working with him, and their working relationship was only made worse by the fact that Jim never gave Andre a chance to do one of his favorite spots in which he would take a couple of clotheslines and then get his arms tied up in the ropes.
Well, Ultimate Jim never backed off to let Andre hit the rope spot. The idiot just kept charging Andre, then going onto the next spot in the match. This went on for several matches. One night, Andre'd had enough and decided to stick his fist out as the Ultimate Prick made his usual charge. Hellwig's face bounced off of Andre's hand, legitimately knocking him senseless.
The next night, Ultimate Jim charged very gingerly at Andre, giving him ample room and time to happily tangle his arms.
Dude - how do you know so much about this topic?
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Heenan talks about it in the ultimate warrior bash dvd that the wwe put out.
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Heenan talks about it in the ultimate warrior bash dvd that the wwe put out.
That's right, I forgot about that disc.
I've heard/seen the story several times between Heenan's book and the shoot interview he did with RF Video. A couple other guys have mentioned it, too.
It's a shame, though. Hellwig came into the Fed at the PERFECT time: an era which yearned for the exact things he had to offer: big muscles, cartoonish gimmick, and lack of wrestling ability. He really could have taken Hogan's spot, and Vince had huge wood over the prospect. The old man even put the strap on him in 1990. If James had just been willing to develop, he could have had the wrestling industry by its Deca-atrophied balls.
But instead, he thought he knew everything and didn't need to evolve. And, between not learning the rest of the "wrestling biz" and being a pain in the ass to do business with in AND out of the ring, the Ultimate Asshole's biggest payday came from suing McMahon over use of his character likeness.
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Dude - how do you know so much about this topic?
I'm a life-long wrestling nerd. I was a mark all through grade school. As I got older, they pulled the curtain back, exposing more and more of the backstage aspect of the business. I was instantly hooked, and just learned everything I could. I found the stuff totally fascinating.
After college, I even began training with and working for a small independent wrestling outfit...for about ten-minutes. By that time, the business had changed dramatically. There were far fewer chances to make it, and I got out of it soon after.
It was fun meeting some old-timers and even some of the up and coming guys. It's surprising how many work the Indy circuit. At one time or another, our promotion brought in King Kong Bundy, The Missing Link, Sunny and Chris (Skip), Balls Mahoney, Shane Douglas, Sandman, CM Punk, Honky Tonk Man, Mick Foley, Southern Comfort, AJ Styles, The Executioner, Jerry Lawler, and more that I can't recall right now.
Some of the guys, like Bundy, do it for fun; meeting old fans and entertaining new ones. But, it was sad to see the ones who wrestled because they had to - they need the money, and this is all they can, or are willing to do. We were lucky to bring in guys like Foley when the WWF was still hot. Some of Vince's guys had grandfatered clauses in their contracts that allowed them to accept third-party bookings. Many times, it was the guys who signed on board during the Shawn Michales/Bret Hart era when business was very bad for Vince.
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Nobody really cared for Hellwig. Andre wasn't thrilled to be working with him, and their working relationship was only made worse by the fact that Jim never gave Andre a chance to do one of his favorite spots in which he would take a couple of clotheslines and then get his arms tied up in the ropes.
Well, Ultimate Jim never backed off to let Andre hit the rope spot. The idiot just kept charging Andre, then going onto the next spot in the match. This went on for several matches. One night, Andre'd had enough and decided to stick his fist out as the Ultimate Prick made his usual charge. Hellwig's face bounced off of Andre's hand, legitimately knocking him senseless.
The next night, Ultimate Jim charged very gingerly at Andre, giving him ample room and time to happily tangle his arms.
I have never heard that story and love it. I would love to see Andre sitting on him. What was he thinking? He should have known better.
Yes, he had a great gimmick for the time. For some reason, I kind of liked him, but not many others of his kind, if any. Probably because I didn't see much of him. I despised "our" version of him.......otherwise known as Sting.
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I have never heard that story and love it. I would love to see Andre sitting on him. What was he thinking? He should have known better.
Yes, he had a great gimmick for the time. For some reason, I kind of liked him, but not many others of his kind, if any. Probably because I didn't see much of him. I despised "our" version of him.......otherwise known as Sting.
Two peas in a pod; I'm sure you know Sting & Ultimate Jim were originally tag team partners.
As for Andre, if he didn't like you, he could be one miserable prick towards you. For instance, he never liked the Iron Sheik, who was often a bit of a bully with the jobbers. He'd stretch them during matches just to take liberties with them.
Andre didn't like that Sheik did that, so he used to pin Sheik face down on the mat, sit on his back, grab his wrists, and "row" his arms in circles as if they were oars on a boat. That hurt like Hell, and is why the Iron Sheik never liked working with Andre.
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Nobody really cared for Hellwig. Andre wasn't thrilled to be working with him, and their working relationship was only made worse by the fact that Jim never gave Andre a chance to do one of his favorite spots in which he would take a couple of clotheslines and then get his arms tied up in the ropes.
Well, Ultimate Jim never backed off to let Andre hit the rope spot. The idiot just kept charging Andre, then going onto the next spot in the match. This went on for several matches. One night, Andre'd had enough and decided to stick his fist out as the Ultimate Prick made his usual charge. Hellwig's face bounced off of Andre's hand, legitimately knocking him senseless.
The next night, Ultimate Jim charged very gingerly at Andre, giving him ample room and time to happily tangle his arms.
Heenan talks about it in the ultimate warrior bash dvd that the wwe put out.
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That's right, I forgot about that disc.
I've heard/seen the story several times between Heenan's book and the shoot interview he did with RF Video. A couple other guys have mentioned it, too.
It's a shame, though. Hellwig came into the Fed at the PERFECT time: an era which yearned for the exact things he had to offer: big muscles, cartoonish gimmick, and lack of wrestling ability. He really could have taken Hogan's spot, and Vince had huge wood over the prospect. The old man even put the strap on him in 1990. If James had just been willing to develop, he could have had the wrestling industry by its Deca-atrophied balls.
But instead, he thought he knew everything and didn't need to evolve. And, between not learning the rest of the "wrestling biz" and being a pain in the ass to do business with in AND out of the ring, the Ultimate Asshole's biggest payday came from suing McMahon over use of his character likeness.
The last time I heard anything about Warrior, he was either wrestling in some podunk federation in Spain (where JBL's old flunky, Orlando Jordan, was champion) or he's still whining about Hogan, the one guy who put him over at WrestleMania 6.
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I'll give credit where it is due: Hellwig had problems with more than a few guys with whom he worked. Rick Rude was one. Surprisingly, Jim has spoken well of Rude in shoot-type interviews. He also offered very kind and humble words about Randy Savage after he passed.
But, his online "feud" with Hogan is laughable and seen by many as a pathetic attempt to stay relevant.
Bret mentioned in his book a story describing how Ultimate Shit-head totally blew off a kid from Make-A-Wish at a live event. The kid had cancer and had his heart set on meeting UW. ALL of the guys made a point to stop by and greet the kid, including the heels. When told of the kid's presence and wish, Hellwig told WWF officials that he doesn't like to be interrupted while "preparing" for a match, but to tell the kid and his family that he would stop by afterwards. The rotten cunt instead bolted out of the arena after his match, and that poor little kid never got to meet his "hero."
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I'll give credit where it is due: Hellwig had problems with more than a few guys with whom he worked. Rick Rude was one. Surprisingly, Jim has spoken well of Rude in shoot-type interviews. He also offered very kind and humble words about Randy Savage after he passed.
But, his online "feud" with Hogan is laughable and seen by many as a pathetic attempt to stay relevant.
Bret mentioned in his book a story describing how Ultimate Shit-head totally blew off a kid from Make-A-Wish at a live event. The kid had cancer and had his heart set on meeting UW. ALL of the guys made a point to stop by and greet the kid, including the heels. When told of the kid's presence and wish, Hellwig told WWF officials that he doesn't like to be interrupted while "preparing" for a match, but to tell the kid and his family that he would stop by afterwards. The rotten cunt instead bolted out of the arena after his match, and that poor little kid never got to meet his "hero."
Is there ANYBODY in the wrestling industry that has a decent word to say about The Ultimate Warrior?
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yes ken did it many times . atonino inoki even suceeded in this and hogan did body slam andre . there is a video on this . no small feat he was 479 pounds around . even more at the end .
None of that matters. Remember that back in the 80s, McMahon acted as if other wrestling federations didn't exist, especially in the buildup for WrestleMania 3. Andre the Giant was undefeated for 15 years and that was that, as far as he was concerned.
And "The Slam Heard 'Round The World" became iconic.
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Is there ANYBODY in the wrestling industry that has a decent word to say about The Ultimate Warrior?
The British Bulldogs seemed to like him, and I understand they began traveling and training together on the road. Davey and Jim were busted in the early 90's for receiving shipments of hGH from the same pharmacy in England.
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Two peas in a pod; I'm sure you know Sting & Ultimate Jim were originally tag team partners.
As for Andre, if he didn't like you, he could be one miserable prick towards you. For instance, he never liked the Iron Sheik, who was often a bit of a bully with the jobbers. He'd stretch them during matches just to take liberties with them.
Andre didn't like that Sheik did that, so he used to pin Sheik face down on the mat, sit on his back, grab his wrists, and "row" his arms in circles as if they were oars on a boat. That hurt like Hell, and is why the Iron Sheik never liked working with Andre.
The Blade Runners, right? Imagine if they had stayed together. The tag-team world probably would have been much different. Of course, those two were going to be big, so they never would have done that.
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The Blade Runners, right? Imagine if they had stayed together. The tag-team world probably would have been much different. Of course, those two were going to be big, so they never would have done that.
(http://www.gayprowrestling.com/bladerunners.jpg)
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(http://www.gayprowrestling.com/bladerunners.jpg)
Is that Zeb Coulter/Uncle Zebekiah/Dutch Mantel, as their manager?
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Is that Zeb Coulter/Uncle Zebekiah/Dutch Mantel, as their manager?
Yessir!
This was actually under their name "The Freedom Fighters", they changed it to the Blade Runners shortly after.
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I'll give credit where it is due: Hellwig had problems with more than a few guys with whom he worked. Rick Rude was one. Surprisingly, Jim has spoken well of Rude in shoot-type interviews. He also offered very kind and humble words about Randy Savage after he passed.
But, his online "feud" with Hogan is laughable and seen by many as a pathetic attempt to stay relevant.
Bret mentioned in his book a story describing how Ultimate Shit-head totally blew off a kid from Make-A-Wish at a live event. The kid had cancer and had his heart set on meeting UW. ALL of the guys made a point to stop by and greet the kid, including the heels. When told of the kid's presence and wish, Hellwig told WWF officials that he doesn't like to be interrupted while "preparing" for a match, but to tell the kid and his family that he would stop by afterwards. The rotten cunt instead bolted out of the arena after his match, and that poor little kid never got to meet his "hero."
Rick Rude and Jim go all the way back to the WCCW days if memory serves me correct. It could just be one of those situations where they just growled at each other off and on for years. Jim strikes me as the kind of guy who could have that type of relationship with other wrestlers, especially if it carried over to multiple companies as in their case.
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Is that Zeb Coulter/Uncle Zebekiah/Dutch Mantel, as their manager?
Give me some credit because I don't watch much anymore, but I thought Zeb was Dutch Mantel when I first saw him. Has he been with the company for a while, or what has he been doing?
I assume that angle has some reality to it? Monty, any knowledge?
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Rick Rude and Jim go all the way back to the WCCW days if memory serves me correct. It could just be one of those situations where they just growled at each other off and on for years. Jim strikes me as the kind of guy who could have that type of relationship with other wrestlers, especially if it carried over to multiple companies as in their case.
I don't know how they got along then.
For their program in WWF, they worked a series of matches leading up to Summer Slam. During one or maybe several of those matches, Jim stiffed Rude a couple of times. It doesn't sound like it was on purpose, but the fact was Jim was careless in the ring. Rude had finally had enough the one night, so he clamped a headlock on dip-shit, took him to the mat, and whispered, "If you potato me one more time, I'm gonna shove your head up your ass!"
Asshole was a lot more careful after that, and he and Rude drew some good money together.
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Give me some credit because I don't watch much anymore, but I thought Zeb was Dutch Mantel when I first saw him. Has he been with the company for a while, or what has he been doing?
I assume that angle has some reality to it? Monty, any knowledge?
I honestly don't know.
Sorry, friend.
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As for Andre, if he didn't like you, he could be one miserable prick towards you. For instance, he never liked the Iron Sheik, who was often a bit of a bully with the jobbers. He'd stretch them during matches just to take liberties with them.
Andre didn't like that Sheik did that, so he used to pin Sheik face down on the mat, sit on his back, grab his wrists, and "row" his arms in circles as if they were oars on a boat. That hurt like Hell, and is why the Iron Sheik never liked working with Andre.
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/Class_B/Wrestling/e8d1a3bc01d1e262ba18f59b2b13c43e.jpg)
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(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/Class_B/Wrestling/e8d1a3bc01d1e262ba18f59b2b13c43e.jpg)
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Great pic Beetlejuiice was going to beat his ass once.
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Great pic Beetlejuiice was going to beat his ass once.
Funny! What was the deal with that?
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Here is the explanation from Beetle.
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Here is the explanation from Beetle.
I'm not sure I know any more than I did. ;D
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Steve Austin has a new podcast. In a recent episode he interviewed Bret Hart who talked about the one time he wrestled Andre. During the match Andre was set to do an elbow drop on a flat on his back Bret. Bret recalled looking up at Andre and thinking, "If he messes this up, I could actually die, here."
Bret also said that Andre wouldn't hesitate to "police" a wrestler who didn't show the business proper respect. Apparently, one of those wrestlers was Bam Bam Bigalow whom Andre roughed up during a match.
I believe this is the match that Bret was talking about. Check out the 4:45 mark. It looks pretty vicious.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8jy6x_bam-bam-bigelow-vs-andre-the-giant_sport#.UcaEUPzD_IU (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8jy6x_bam-bam-bigelow-vs-andre-the-giant_sport#.UcaEUPzD_IU)
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Steve Austin has a new podcast. In a recent episode he interviewed Bret Hart who talked about the one time he wrestled Andre. During the match Andre was set to do an elbow drop on a flat on his back Bret. Bret recalled looking up at Andre and thinking, "If he messes this up, I could actually die, here."
Bret also said that Andre wouldn't hesitate to "police" a wrestler who didn't show the business proper respect. Apparently, one of those wrestlers was Bam Bam Bigalow whom Andre roughed up during a match.
I believe this is the match that Bret was talking about. Check out the 4:45 mark. It looks pretty vicious.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8jy6x_bam-bam-bigelow-vs-andre-the-giant_sport#.UcaEUPzD_IU (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8jy6x_bam-bam-bigelow-vs-andre-the-giant_sport#.UcaEUPzD_IU)
Bam Bam had a fairly shitty attitude early on in his career. He was talented, but extremely cocky, which didn't go over well in the locker room. He was much more humble and likable from his second WWF run, on.
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Just came across this clip, hilarious yet makes you wonder just how powerful the man really was.
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Steve Austin has a new podcast. In a recent episode he interviewed Bret Hart who talked about the one time he wrestled Andre. During the match Andre was set to do an elbow drop on a flat on his back Bret. Bret recalled looking up at Andre and thinking, "If he messes this up, I could actually die, here."
Bret also said that Andre wouldn't hesitate to "police" a wrestler who didn't show the business proper respect. Apparently, one of those wrestlers was Bam Bam Bigalow whom Andre roughed up during a match.
I believe this is the match that Bret was talking about. Check out the 4:45 mark. It looks pretty vicious.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8jy6x_bam-bam-bigelow-vs-andre-the-giant_sport#.UcaEUPzD_IU (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8jy6x_bam-bam-bigelow-vs-andre-the-giant_sport#.UcaEUPzD_IU)
Really? I didnt see anything out of sorts in that match.
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How the hell would you fight this guy on the street?
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How the hell would you fight this guy on the street?
Hopefully you stay away long enough so that he gasses so bad you just do some dirty shit and run away.
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Hopefully you stay away long enough so that he gasses so bad you just do some dirty shit and run away.
That's the thing though... Andre was not in terrible shape either.
I mean, he wasn't running marathons, but he did move around a wrestling ring for some time.
The guy was a legit bad ass.
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That's the thing though... Andre was not in terrible shape either.
I mean, he wasn't running marathons, but he did move around a wrestling ring for some time.
The guy was a legit bad ass.
He was usually tanked, though! That may have given you a sight advantage if you planed your timing right.
Then again, Davey Boy was plastered on pills during the incident in Syracuse, and a group of Marines couldn't take him off his feet!
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How the hell would you fight this guy on the street?
Maybe attack the leg with sweeps (multi billionaire, cage fighter extraordinaire getbigger style).
But lets face it, once a young Andre gets those bear claws on you....GAME OVER!
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Going back to my Renzo Gracie / Craig Kukok days, they felt the best way to get a much bigger opponent down is to shoot low, head in between his legs, cup one of his ankles, then drive sideways into his knee joint.
If your opponent doesn't know the counter, he goes down or his knee ligaments tear.
The problem is that wrestlers tend to be good at stopping leg shots.
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Going back to my Renzo Gracie / Craig Kukok days, they felt the best way to get a much bigger opponent down is to shoot low, head in between his legs, cup one of his ankles, then drive sideways into his knee joint.
If your opponent doesn't know the counter, he goes down or his knee ligaments tear.
The problem is that wrestlers tend to be good at stopping leg shots.
Another interesting fact about Andre is that he received formal training in catch-as-catch-can wrestling by the Englishmen; essentially a form of shoot fighting developed by the Wigan coal miners.
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Another interesting fact about Andre is that he received formal training in catch-as-catch-can wrestling by the Englishmen; essentially a form of shoot fighting developed by the Wigan coal miners.
I'm sure Andre had lots of experience with guys trying to go for his legs.
My approach to fighting Andre, in his prime, would be to square up, raise my hands, turn 180 degrees, then sprint. ;D
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I'm sure Andre had lots of experience with guys trying to go for his legs.
My approach to fighting Andre, in his prime, would be to square up, raise my hands, turn 180 degrees, then sprint. ;D
There's footage of this out there: Maeda tried shooting on Andre during a match in Japan. I've heard several versions of the story. Below is Dave Meltzer's account, which is probably pretty accurate:
Major disaster. The mega-hyped match that turned into a near shoot because Andre wouldn't sell Maeda's offense. Maeda was getting a big head and Andre was told to embarrass him in the ring since everyone believed in the Andre myth. Maeda didn't know and Andre, even drunk, was powerful as hell, and started going for Maeda's eyes after no selling his submissions. When Maeda saw it was on, he reacted as only he could. The reason it wasn't stopped earlier was the idea was for Andre to kick Maeda's ass and they were waiting for it to happen. Maeda was kicking Andre's knee until it turned bright red and took him down rather easily a few times. He turned to Kantaro Hoshino and asked if he could finish him off and Hoshino shook his head "no." Maeda was pissed and threw a kick at the guard rail that was more brutal than any kick he threw at Andre. Maeda has been very unprofessional at certain points in his career and is a baby, but in this case, a guy twice his size started it with him and he was trying to protect himself, put some fear into Andre, and not hurt Andre all at the same time. Dick Murdoch, who believed in the myth of Andre, as did everyone at the time, came back and said that he thought Maeda was going to end Andre's career. WINNER: Certainly not the fans. (thanks to Dave Meltzer)
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Here is the match. I just watched it for the first time. Very weird.
I thing Andre started off shooting on him. Then Madea got pissed and started taking him down over and over.
The kicks started looking pretty intense at one point.
I also think Andre might have been drunk. He did have several chances to seriously hurt Madea and didn't do it.
When Inoki came out I guess that's when he had realized something had better be done.
Also I think this is the worse physically I have ever seen Andre. Very over weight and his knees looked very bad. Several years before this when Andre was leaner he might have done a Little better.
I come from a amature back ground and Madea has great take downs BTW.
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Here is the match. I just watched it for the first time. Very weird.
I thing Andre started off shooting on him. Then Madea got pissed and started taking him down over and over.
The kicks started looking pretty intense at one point.
I also think Andre might have been drunk. He did have several chances to seriously hurt Madea and didn't do it.
When Inoki came out I guess that's when he had realized something had better be done.
Also I think this is the worse physically I have ever seen Andre. Very over weight and his knees looked very bad. Several years before this when Andre was leaner he might have done a Little better.
Andre seemed to have that drunken stagger a few times. If this was in '86, then it was around the time he filmed The Princess Bride. Andre had major back and knee issues by that point, and it was said he could not even safely catch actress Robin Wright from a height of only several inches.
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In Maeda's defence he looks like hes trying to wrestle and Andre isnt interested. Obviously highly intoxicated and severely immobile, physically he was a wreck. A prime Andre would have mauled him, he had ample opportunity to badly hurt him and didnt pull the trigger for whatever reason.
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Andre was 40 at the time; Maeda, 27.
As Stephanie MacMahon recently reminded the Big Show that giants don't live as long as regular people, and taking into account Andre's lifestyle, 40 for him would be about 50+ for a regular person.
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Andre was 40 at the time; Maeda, 27.
As Stephanie MacMahon recently reminded the Big Show that giants don't live as long as regular people, and taking into account Andre's lifestyle, 40 for him would be about 50+ for a regular person.
Even though he was 40 to me he he looked like he was in better shape when he had his run with Hogan. Y'all agree?
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Andre was 40 at the time; Maeda, 27.
As Stephanie MacMahon recently reminded the Big Show that giants don't live as long as regular people, and taking into account Andre's lifestyle, 40 for him would be about 50+ for a regular person.
It's hard to say. Andre, Wight, and Gino Monsoon all had the same condition, which I believe affects the pituitary gland. Andre's was never treated. Gorilla received some treatment and lived much longer. Of the three, Show has access to the most advanced care, and so should be the safest - all things equal.
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Even though he was 40 to me he he looked like he was in better shape when he had his run with Hogan. Y'all agree?
The match with Hogan took place a year later and Andre looked much heavier and slower. Big guys tend to go downhill fast.
Andre was a big wine drinker. From what I've heard, he would down bottles of wine like they were bottles of soda.