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Title: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 08:28:53 AM
was real beeeg and thick here. seemed like a colemanesque friendly churchgoing chocolate man who claimed natural






here he is older with a shaved head and a grey beard that's dyed black. he talks really rough and nasty nowadays, says this is the real him, not censored anymore

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 08:30:29 AM
also his nose looks a lot bigger now


when you study carefully it seems similar tho


but at first sight it seems freaky big now


he used to be handsome
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: cswol on May 25, 2013, 08:56:16 AM
no six pack, no cuts, no bullshiit, real iron pumping, no walking around working abs, none of the shit that getbiggers post everyday that give one a getbig world class physique at 7% bodyfat, why dont some of you learn something from this, this is what big is, belly hangin out and 290 lbs big as fuck, thats how its done, no fluffer twink getbigger crap goin on here, you guys should learn something.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: cswol on May 25, 2013, 09:02:04 AM
boo hoo muthafuckers go cry in your corn flakes, eat a twinky
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
Seems like a funny guy etc, but knowing he claims lifetime natural makes him a bitch in my eyes... no respect for this type of individual.

How was he "censored" before?
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 25, 2013, 10:28:12 AM
no six pack, no cuts, no bullshiit, real iron pumping, no walking around working abs, none of the shit that getbiggers post everyday that give one a getbig world class physique at 7% bodyfat, why dont some of you learn something from this, this is what big is, belly hangin out and 290 lbs big as fuck, thats how its done, no fluffer twink getbigger crap goin on here, you guys should learn something.
Why are you so against abs?  The only people who hate abs are gay muscle bears and gay fantasy fat feeders.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2013, 10:35:55 AM
Why should we care about lying folks, full of silly cockiness ???
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Disgusted on May 25, 2013, 10:38:29 AM
Hahahahaaa Don't know the guy but the second vid is a hoot.  ;D
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Mawse on May 25, 2013, 10:39:33 AM
no six pack, no cuts, no bullshiit, real iron pumping, no walking around working abs, none of the shit that getbiggers post everyday that give one a getbig world class physique at 7% bodyfat, why dont some of you learn something from this, this is what big is, belly hangin out and 290 lbs big as fuck, thats how its done, no fluffer twink getbigger crap goin on here, you guys should learn something.

pipe down, fatpants.

CT is lean and cut now, when you have your inevitable massive heart attack from abusing AAS and eating like an obese woman do you think you'll be able to recover and get in the kind of shape he is?
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: JediTerminator on May 25, 2013, 10:41:36 AM
who give a fuck if you claim natural or not?

some dumbfuck from highschool who in POLICE FOUNDATIONS fucking inbox me on fb asking what my cycle is. I tell him i'm all natural. You wanna handcuff yourself in this police state? you gotta be fucking thick in the skull to not think some guy who aint even lifting at the moment got veins popping that a heroin banger would be mouth watering over.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
who give a fuck if you claim natural or not?

some dumbfuck from highschool who in POLICE FOUNDATIONS fucking inbox me on fb asking what my cycle is. I tell him i'm all natural. You wanna handcuff yourself in this police state? you gotta be fucking thick in the skull to not think some guy who aint even lifting at the moment got veins popping that a heroin banger would be mouth watering over.
The problem is not that, he does not wait till someone asks him if he juices, he throws that shit around every 2 seconds, 100% natural, hell I have heard him say this 10 times in one single video. So your Little theory, although a good one, does not apply here.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: BB on May 25, 2013, 10:56:57 AM
Yeah, that's the thing, I don't mind if a person doesn't answer, etc.... but it's the active lying and self promotion that these self professed natural champs do that I find insulting.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 11:03:16 AM
Yeah, that's the thing, I don't mind if a person doesn't answer, etc.... but it's the active lying and self promotion that these self professed natural champs do that I find insulting.
exactly
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2013, 11:26:46 AM
The problem is not that, he does not wait till someone asks him if he juices, he throws that shit around every 2 seconds, 100% natural, hell I have heard him say this 10 times in one single video. So your Little theory, although a good one, does not apply here.
Yeah, that's the thing, I don't mind if a person doesn't answer, etc.... but it's the active lying and self promotion that these self professed natural champs do that I find insulting.

Yes, these guys volunteer the lie before anyone even asks.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: rooseveltdunn on May 25, 2013, 11:33:49 AM
He has admitted many times that he used roids, just not GH.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2013, 11:34:18 AM
no six pack, no cuts, no bullshiit, real iron pumping, no walking around working abs, none of the shit that getbiggers post everyday that give one a getbig world class physique at 7% bodyfat, why dont some of you learn something from this, this is what big is, belly hangin out and 290 lbs big as fuck, thats how its done, no fluffer twink getbigger crap goin on here, you guys should learn something.

There's a difference between this guy and you. CT now isn't fat, and the guy even competed in bb before.

He has admitted many times that he used roids, just not GH.

Where? Link?

He has claimed natural though. So to use his type of language, he was a motherfucking bitch ass liar.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 11:48:49 AM
He has admitted many times that he used roids, just not GH.
nope, you are mistaken, he has never, he always claims life time natural, sorry your wrong.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
Seems like a funny guy etc, but knowing he claims lifetime natural makes him a bitch in my eyes... no respect for this type of individual.

How was he "censored" before?

His videos from 20 years ago were put on TV. Thus, he couldn't cuss the way he does now.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 12:31:56 PM
also his nose looks a lot bigger now


when you study carefully it seems similar tho


but at first sight it seems freaky big now


he used to be handsome

I think it's more his head is smaller. 20 years ago, Fletcher was normally over 300 lbs. The 290 he's sporting in that videos where he reps with 495 was light for him back then.

Now, Fletcher hovers around 230.

There's a difference between this guy and you. CT now isn't fat, and the guy even competed in bb before.

He has claimed natural though. So to use his type of language, he was a motherfucking bitch ass liar.




He's a pro in the INBA, having won his classes at their Mr. Universe back in 2011. According to him (and another website), he competed in the Masters class and the open class as a heavyweight.

As for Fletcher's claims of being natural, he's hardly the first to make such (at least as far as his early years go).



3:30-4:50
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: falco on May 25, 2013, 01:00:34 PM
He is a big mutha fucka but he doesnt look puffed-up like many steroid users. He might be on trt or something.
Who really cares, he is an inspiring sick mutha fucka, i like him.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 01:22:04 PM
no six pack, no cuts, no bullshiit, real iron pumping, no walking around working abs, none of the shit that getbiggers post everyday that give one a getbig world class physique at 7% bodyfat, why dont some of you learn something from this, this is what big is, belly hangin out and 290 lbs big as fuck, thats how its done, no fluffer twink getbigger crap goin on here, you guys should learn something.
i gotta admit in his old videos he looks powerful as hell

you dont look like this at all tho

you look like an obese guy who doesnt even lift

IMHO
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 01:28:12 PM
The problem is not that, he does not wait till someone asks him if he juices, he throws that shit around every 2 seconds, 100% natural, hell I have heard him say this 10 times in one single video. So your Little theory, although a good one, does not apply here.
"is it possible to build 22" arms without taking drugs? you better believe it"

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Powerlift66 on May 25, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
As natural as Ronnie Coleman...
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 01:33:20 PM
He is a big mutha fucka but he doesnt look puffed-up like many steroid users. He might be on trt or something.
Who really cares, he is an inspiring sick mutha fucka, i like him.
trt of peace

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 01:43:32 PM
As natural as Ronnie Coleman...

Which Ronnie Coleman? There was another guy, named, Ron "Alcatraz" Coleman who was an IFBB pro and claim to be natural. I believe he won the first Team Universe title.

If you're referring to Ron "Ain't Nuttin' but a Peanut" Coleman, remember he claimed to be natural in his early years, too. MD has an article where he and Flex Wheeler are discussing his career. Per this article, it was Wheeler that first introduced Ronnie doing anabolics, after he'd been in the pros a few years, even after winning his first show in 1995. Other IFBB pros, like Mike Quinn, have vouched for Ronnie's earlier natural claims.

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 01:45:46 PM
"is it possible to build 22" arms without taking drugs? you better believe it"



I don't think you want to go his route to that, as in being a well-over-300-lb powerlifter first.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:20:10 PM
Which Ronnie Coleman? There was another guy, named, Ron "Alcatraz" Coleman who was an IFBB pro and claim to be natural. I believe he won the first Team Universe title.

If you're referring to Ron "Ain't Nuttin' but a Peanut" Coleman, remember he claimed to be natural in his early years, too. MD has an article where he and Flex Wheeler are discussing his career. Per this article, it was Wheeler that first introduced Ronnie doing anabolics, after he'd been in the pros a few years, even after winning his first show in 1995. Other IFBB pros, like Mike Quinn, have vouched for Ronnie's earlier natural claims.


doesnt make sense and you know it
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 02:21:04 PM
also his nose looks a lot bigger now


when you study carefully it seems similar tho


but at first sight it seems freaky big now


he used to be handsome

does your baby mama dig him?
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 02:21:25 PM
I don't think you want to go his route to that, as in being a well-over-300-lb powerlifter first.
lmao, so cause he was a power lifter first and 300lbs that makes it possible for him to be natural?

You bring gullible to a whole knew level  :-[
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 02:25:41 PM
Which Ronnie Coleman? There was another guy, named, Ron "Alcatraz" Coleman who was an IFBB pro and claim to be natural. I believe he won the first Team Universe title.

If you're referring to Ron "Ain't Nuttin' but a Peanut" Coleman, remember he claimed to be natural in his early years, too. MD has an article where he and Flex Wheeler are discussing his career. Per this article, it was Wheeler that first introduced Ronnie doing anabolics, after he'd been in the pros a few years, even after winning his first show in 1995. Other IFBB pros, like Mike Quinn, have vouched for Ronnie's earlier natural claims.


Wrong, in a recent interview Ronnie told the story about Flex and he claimed he was taking ''vitamin a and b" and Flex told him he had to take vitamin c, d an e. So by his own mouth he admitted he was already on but just not mega dosing with multiple compounds.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
does your baby mama dig him?
i dont think she knows about him

she's smitten for ronnie "nothing but a peanut" coleman, everytime i watch his videos (often, too often) she sits down and watches even when on the phone with her mates

when she sees such videos like the one below she envies the women in the video


"this kind men fuck good...strong"

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:27:45 PM
Wrong, in a recent interview Ronnie told the story about Flex and he claimed he was taking ''vitamin a and b" and Flex told him he had to take vitamin c, d an e. So by his own mouth he admitted he was already on but just not mega dosing with multiple compounds.
correct


and in first training video (what year was this filmed)


he said


"when i met brian, all i knew about bb was that you need a strict diet and steroids. i didnt want to do either at the time, but brian insisted"


i think this is as clear as it gets
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 02:28:48 PM
doesnt make sense and you know it

Read the article for yourself, before you go claiming stuff doesn't make sense. Wheeler stated that he couldn't go through this interview with Coleman, without being considered a wuss, unless he addressed Ronnie's natural claims earlier in his career.



Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:33:42 PM
you , you are no cuts and belly hanging out.

fletcher has cuts.

these days he has, when younger he didnt.

hes an absolute idiot and liar none the less, he said theres no such thing like overtraining, only undereating ::)

such brilliant advice has given birth to many permabulkers, i mean does this guy look remotely like a scientist or doctor to you?

his first meal a day used to be 3-4 calories at mcdonalds i think.wow, some advice.

these days hes not so bloofy anymore, quite fairly lean, i bet he dont eat like that anymore.


since he was ready to give up a lot of strength (quit PL) he was ready to lose a lot of weight

he seems confused on what he likes most bb or pl

in 20 yr old video he said he used to be a bb when he didnt know any better


and now hes a bber again
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 02:35:46 PM
Wrong, in a recent interview Ronnie told the story about Flex and he claimed he was taking ''vitamin a and b" and Flex told him he had to take vitamin c, d an e. So by his own mouth he admitted he was already on but just not mega dosing with multiple compounds.

Wrong? The article is in print, in black and white. Look it up for yourself.

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:37:02 PM
Wrong? The article is in print, in black and white. Look it up for yourself.


"just because it's printed doesnt mean it's true" --mike mentzer
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
"just because it's printed doesnt mean it's true" --mike mentzer

You mean like Mentzer's one-set-to-failure claims?

It's the May 2011 issue of MD with that article
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a4fWa_V5TOU/TaDY_qVhDoI/AAAAAAAAAjo/scs_XgCvC1g/s400/md%2B-%2Bmay%2B2011.jpg)


Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:44:31 PM
You mean like Mentzer's one-set-to-failure claims?


paradox but yes
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
the major downside of being that fat and bloated is not "the abbzzz"

but the fat around your dick

dick gets shorter

also huge belly during sex cant be nice
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 02:46:48 PM
Wrong? The article is in print, in black and white. Look it up for yourself.


I don't give a shit about an article when Ronnie has indicated many times he started juicing with Brian Dobson and he upped the dose with Flex. He has specifically stated 50 times that Flex was surprised about how very little he was taking. Not the he was not taking, he uses the words ''very little'' so you are wrong and an article mean shit bro.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 02:48:04 PM
lmao, so cause he was a power lifter first and 300lbs that makes it possible for him to be natural?

You bring gullible to a whole knew level  :-[

You bring clueless to a whole new level. The point you clearly missed was that Halo probably DOES NOT want to push his bodyweight to 300 lbs and cut down to the mid-200s to be ripped.

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
I don't give a shit about an article when Ronnie has indicated many times he started juicing with Brian Dobson and he upped the dose with Flex. He has specifically stated 50 times that Flex was surprised about how very little he was taking. Not the he was not taking, he uses the words ''very little'' so you are wrong and an article mean shit bro.

And these indications would be WHERE, especially with Dobson himself claiming that Ronnie was natural (MuscleMag International, November 1992)?

So, we have Dobson, Quinn, and Wheeler all backing Ronnie's claims that Ronnie was natural his early years.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 02:50:59 PM
You bring clueless to a whole new level. The point you clearly missed was that Halo probably DOES NOT want to push his bodyweight to 300 lbs and cut down to the mid-200s to be ripped.


Whatever, does not change the fact you believe this guy is a life time natural, who is the clueless one  ???
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 02:52:07 PM
You bring clueless to a whole new level. The point you clearly missed was that Halo probably DOES NOT want to push his bodyweight to 300 lbs and cut down to the mid-200s to be ripped.


i do not have the skeletal frame nor the desire to take grotesque amounts of peds


so why would i "push my bw to 300lbs"


delusional
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
"just because it's printed doesnt mean it's true" --mike mentzer

 ;D ;D ;D

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/1xreIYCyXW09NQYsZK4d2bRypoJydu1379-Copy.jpeg)
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
;D ;D ;D

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/1xreIYCyXW09NQYsZK4d2bRypoJydu1379-Copy.jpeg)
real nice physique

too bad it's not attainable for joe the getbigger
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:10:06 PM
well, thats just the aestetics part.

now, itll come along with high blood pressure and the followup disasrous scenarios.
aesthetics AND sexual function as a man

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
real nice physique

too bad it's not attainable for joe the getbigger

and they say that he had a weak chest ???
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:16:13 PM
and they say that he had a weak chest ???
his biggest disadvantage was he had a "small frame"

i think
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
his biggest disadvantage was he had a "small frame"

i think

do you mean short?

King Zane had a small frame, not Mentzer

(http://anthonymychal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/frank-zane1.jpg)
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:19:24 PM
do you mean short?

King Zane had a small frame, not Mentzer

(http://anthonymychal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/frank-zane1.jpg)
narrow i mean
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 25, 2013, 03:19:50 PM
;D ;D ;D

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/1xreIYCyXW09NQYsZK4d2bRypoJydu1379-Copy.jpeg)
Mentzer had narrow shoulder clavicles but he did a nice of building the side deltoids.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:21:49 PM
building the side deltoids.

 ;D ;D ;D

"how fucking think can you make a lateral deltoid?"

that's what he siad to me via a phone consultation back in 2000
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:23:51 PM
;D ;D ;D

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/1xreIYCyXW09NQYsZK4d2bRypoJydu1379-Copy.jpeg)
he has that freaky veins on the SIDE of his arms

i always wondered why you never see people who have this in real life


is it a certain level of roids that makes this come out?
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:28:38 PM
he has that freaky veins on the SIDE of his arms

i always wondered why you never see people who have this in real life


is it a certain level of roids that makes this come out?

i got that shit on my abs, and i don't really like it actually
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:29:29 PM
i got that shit on my abs, and i don't really like it actually
wtf freaky veins on the abs?


it's all about arms tho, bitches love big strong arms
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
wtf freaky veins on the abs?


it's all about arms tho, bitches love big strong arms

that's true

arms and pecs is what they love, just ask 15
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:36:17 PM
that's true

arms and pecs is what they love, just ask 15
what about delts

mine are shit


could help for overall size appearance in clothes
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
And these indications would be WHERE, especially with Dobson himself claiming that Ronnie was natural (MuscleMag International, November 1992)?

So, we have Dobson, Quinn, and Wheeler all backing Ronnie's claims that Ronnie was natural his early years.

People lie. Many people have claimed Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, was natural when he won his first pro show and started anabolics after that. It's all a bunch of BS. I'd bet Ronnie had used even before he met Dobson.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
what about delts

mine are shit


could help for overall size appearance in clothes

IMO it's all about arms, delts, abs and pecs

fuck legs and back

this is my goal

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/389263_447103358639597_443229005693699_1933816_1287342460_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:40:03 PM
People lie. Many people have claimed Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, was natural when he won his first pro show and started anabolics after that. It's all a bunch of BS. I'd bet Ronnie had used even before he met Dobson.
clearly

the ronnie coleman dobson described as he first saw him is juiced to the gils

jacked up chocolate man with veins bulging thru his pants
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:41:08 PM
IMO it's all about arms, delts, abs and pecs

fuck legs and back

this is my goal

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/389263_447103358639597_443229005693699_1933816_1287342460_n.jpg)
problem with legs anyway is that when ur calves are fucked what the point of blowing up the thighs and glutes unless ur a bottom
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2013, 03:44:18 PM
IMO it's all about arms, delts, abs and pecs

fuck legs and back

this is my goal

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/389263_447103358639597_443229005693699_1933816_1287342460_n.jpg)

dj changes his "physique goal" every week.

Pick your man and stick by his side you sleazy whore!!!
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
lmao^^
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Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 03:46:13 PM
lmao^^

x2
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:49:18 PM
my goal arm
(dex)
(http://anabolic-steroids.blogspot.com/Dexter-Jackson-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2013, 03:52:55 PM
my goal arm
(dex)
(http://anabolic-steroids.blogspot.com/Dexter-Jackson-2.jpg)

If that's your real goal, then why are you playing with 300mg test only?
Beautiful arms tho
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:54:16 PM
If that's your real goal, then why are you playing with 300mg test only?
i mean my dream

lol


normal guys can never even get close, look at getbiggers on tons of roids; their arms look nothing like it
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 25, 2013, 03:56:03 PM
i mean my dream

lol


normal guys can never even get close, look at getbiggers on tons of roids; their arms look nothing like it
This is pure genetics combined with every compound under the sun.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
This is pure genetics combined with every compound under the sun.
dexter really had that "grainy" shreddedness combined with that "round cartoonishness"


 :D
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Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
This is pure genetics combined with every compound under the sun.

I've couldn't said it better myself 
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 04:00:12 PM
dexters arms are real impressive in real life (a few yrs ago)

when you see his tris from the side or the back, it looks like some sort of android bber
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2013, 04:06:20 PM
dexters arms are real impressive in real life (a few yrs ago)

when you see his tris from the side or the back, it looks like some sort of android bber

I find it amusing to hear getbiggers lolling about "those midgets", but they will never achieve this look.
Dexter is simply one of the best BBers ever.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 04:07:50 PM
I find it amusing to hear getbiggers lolling about "those midgets", but they will never achieve this look.
Dexter is simply one of the best BBers ever.
he is

very very impressive


looks powerful like a tank sort of


not all of them do, phile heath looks like a pussy next to him
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 04:35:41 PM
"in order to succeed you must first fail, so that you know what not to do next time" -Scott No 1 Alexander

(http://sa.ninetendev.com/x/img/partners/scott-alexander.jpg)

(http://muscle-munch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/scott_alexander4.jpg)
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2013, 04:38:31 PM
"in order to succeed you must first fail, so that you know what not to do next time" -Scott No 1 Alexander


What a genius. Is his book for sale on Amazon?
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 04:40:08 PM
What a genius. Is his book for sale on Amazon?

i don't know, but i really hope that he didn't need gh to look like that ???
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: rooseveltdunn on May 25, 2013, 04:40:26 PM
"in order to succeed you must first fail, so that you know what not to do next time" -Scott No 1 Alexander

(http://sa.ninetendev.com/x/img/partners/scott-alexander.jpg)

(http://muscle-munch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/scott_alexander4.jpg)

shit physique...I am not a mass loving meat head but skinny ripped to me and most women I have been with looks gross, he looks sick this is real life not an ultimate spider man comic book.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 04:41:57 PM
What a genius. Is his book for sale on Amazon?
lol

"in order to succeed you need to get everything right from the start


if you fall and get up you are way behind but get up regardless because finishing last is better than not finishing at all"

anabolichalo
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: dj181 on May 25, 2013, 04:43:47 PM
shit physique...I am not a mass loving meat head but skinny ripped to me and most women I have been with looks gross, he looks sick this is real life not an ultimate spider man comic book.

if he added 10 pure lean pounds of muscle then he'd look pretty damn good

the gh thing with him puzzles me though ???
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 25, 2013, 04:45:44 PM
lol

"in order to succeed you need to get everything right from the start


if you fall and get up you are way behind but get up regardless because finishing last is better than not finishing at all"

anabolichalo
Good to see you are still alive, there was a head stone posted I thought you were gone.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 25, 2013, 04:46:57 PM
Good to see you are still alive, there was a head stone posted I thought you were gone.
lol

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 25, 2013, 04:47:31 PM
lol

"in order to succeed you need to get everything right from the start


if you fall and get up you are way behind but get up regardless because finishing last is better than not finishing at all"

anabolichalo

Life doesn't work that way. All the greats of the world made epic mistakes, from Einstein to Ronnie Coleman and from Bill Gates to Dorian Yates..
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Option D on May 25, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
lmao, so cause he was a power lifter first and 300lbs that makes it possible for him to be natural?

You bring gullible to a whole knew level  :-[
lol...this is funny...


Anyone with decent size is on juice...i would get that shit here till i just used it as a compliment.

This is the thing.. He is from the side of town im originally from. I was in Watts first, then Compton then to South Central.

You see extra huge dudes walking around all the time... thats what you do out there, eat and lift and eat some more. MAybe play some basketball....

These dudes didnt know what protien powder was let alone AAS or GH. It seriously just genetics. Anyone from the South Side, can tell you there would be a bunch of hella swole dudes walking around with out ever taking shit
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 05:39:07 PM
People lie. Many people have claimed Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, was natural when he won his first pro show and started anabolics after that. It's all a bunch of BS. I'd bet Ronnie had used even before he met Dobson.

Indeed they do. But, we have Dobson on record, stating that Ronnie was natural, along with at least 2 other IFBB pros (Quinn and Wheeler). Where are these statements that Coleman told Dobson he was taking steroids, with Dobson advising him to take more or other stuff? Moreover, what would be their motivation/what would they gain for lying about Ronnie's being natural?

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 05:50:53 PM
correct


and in first training video (what year was this filmed)


he said


"when i met brian, all i knew about bb was that you need a strict diet and steroids. i didnt want to do either at the time, but brian insisted"


i think this is as clear as it gets

Look at what you just typed...."I didn't want to do either at the time, but brian insisted".



That settles it. Ronnie must have been a smurf, before he met Brian Dobson. ::). How about you actually cite this interview or link it?

He didn't even meet Dobson, until he started working as a cop and got tired of using the police department's gym. This was years after he'd graduated from Grambling where he played linebacker. Yep, Ronnie must have looked like a real crackhead before he met Brian Dobson.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Parker on May 25, 2013, 05:53:53 PM
Look at what you just typed...."I didn't want to do either at the time, but brian insisted".



That settles it. Ronnie must have been a smurf, before he met Brian Dobson. ::). How about you actually cite this interview or link it?

He didn't even meet Dobson, until he started working as a cop and got tired of using the police department's gym. This was years after he'd graduated from Grambling where he played linebacker. Yep, Ronnie must have looked like a real crackhead before he met Brian Dobson.
Brian had stated that he could see the veins in Ronnie's legs through the spandex when he first started working out at Metroflex.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 06:01:56 PM
Brian had stated that he could see the veins in Ronnie's legs through the spandex when he first started working out at Metroflex.

And?

Ronnie played linebacker at Grambling. He moved to Texas afterwards and got odd jobs (I believe he was delivering pizzas, at one point), since he couldn't get a gig as an accountant. He applied for the Arlington Police Department, where he thought he initially got rejected. But, they took him. And he worked out there for years, before learning of MetroFlex Gym and meeting Dobson.

Translation: RONNIE WAS SWOLE before he met Dobson, much less before Dobson supposedly started telling him to take steroids, notwithstanding the article in MuscleMag (Nov. 1992) where he goes IN PRINT and proclaims that Ronnie's natural.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Parker on May 25, 2013, 06:09:15 PM
And, I was agreeing with you...

But, at the same time, Ronnie and Metroflex gym have grown into a urban myth, almost to Paul Bunyon and Babe The Blue Ox proportions.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 06:13:03 PM
was real beeeg and thick here. seemed like a colemanesque friendly churchgoing chocolate man who claimed natural






here he is older with a shaved head and a grey beard that's dyed black. he talks really rough and nasty nowadays, says this is the real him, not censored anymore



To answer your question:





Just don't be surprised if you get accused of eating bon-bons or having wide hips.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
And, I was agreeing with you...

Thanks for the clarification. BTW, didn't you go to Grambling, or is it another HBCU?


But, at the same time, Ronnie and Metroflex gym have grown into a urban myth, almost to Paul Bunyon and Babe The Blue Ox proportions.

It's like Victor Richards eating 30,000 a day or Greg Kovacs in street clothes, repping with a weight that a local bench-press contest winner barely got up.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Parker on May 25, 2013, 06:33:58 PM
Thanks for the clarification. BTW, didn't you go to Grambling, or is it another HBCU?

It's like Victor Richards eating 30,000 a day or Greg Kovacs in street clothes, repping with a weight that a local bench-press contest winner barely got up.
Morgan St...
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 25, 2013, 06:50:09 PM
Seems like a funny guy etc, but knowing he claims lifetime natural makes him a bitch in my eyes... no respect for this type of individual.

How was he "censored" before?
do you still think i was juiced?
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 25, 2013, 06:55:53 PM
CT Flower is a Bitch n3ggae
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 25, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
do you still think i was juiced?
Falcon just tries to help Afro Americans out.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
Morgan St...

AHHHH!!! Morgan State, sacrificial lambs for us at homecoming (FAMU).

 ;D
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 25, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
Falcon just tries to help Afro Americans out.

Thats all i really care about these days
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Parker on May 25, 2013, 07:00:37 PM
AHHHH!!! Morgan State, sacrificial lambs for us at homecoming (FAMU).

 ;D
yep...I won't deny it...
Just wish they continued the lax program that they had way back when.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 25, 2013, 07:52:00 PM
Here's CT, goofing with his friends.



Of course, compared to 20+ years ago, he's a bit smaller.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 26, 2013, 12:53:27 AM
lol...this is funny...


Anyone with decent size is on juice...i would get that shit here till i just used it as a compliment.

This is the thing.. He is from the side of town im originally from. I was in Watts first, then Compton then to South Central.

You see extra huge dudes walking around all the time... thats what you do out there, eat and lift and eat some more. MAybe play some basketball....

These dudes didnt know what protien powder was let alone AAS or GH. It seriously just genetics. Anyone from the South Side, can tell you there would be a bunch of hella swole dudes walking around with out ever taking shit
lmao, ahhh No just the 300lb monsters with 22 inch arms that rep out with 500lb on the bench and curl 2 plates per side like butter, wow,...  can't believe you guys, what is wrong with you people.  ???
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: falco on May 26, 2013, 03:01:28 AM
CT could have a tumor in his testicles making them secrete huge amounts of test. It's a natural occurrence......   :D LMAO!
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on May 26, 2013, 03:57:41 AM
Look at what you just typed...."I didn't want to do either at the time, but brian insisted".



That settles it. Ronnie must have been a smurf, before he met Brian Dobson. ::). How about you actually cite this interview or link it?

He didn't even meet Dobson, until he started working as a cop and got tired of using the police department's gym. This was years after he'd graduated from Grambling where he played linebacker. Yep, Ronnie must have looked like a real crackhead before he met Brian Dobson.
if you havent seen first training video wtf are you even doing on getbig


gtfo noob
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: HappyGorilla on May 26, 2013, 04:36:53 AM
lmao, ahhh No just the 300lb monsters with 22 inch arms that rep out with 500lb on the bench and curl 2 plates per side like butter, wow,...  can't believe you guys, what is wrong with you people.  ???

You are dealing with very delusional people. Mcway is the King of permabulkers. Sadly, his delusions cross over into many other areas as well. Permabulkers really have no idea what's going on as they think their 250 lb frame is all muscle and they only need to lose 10 lbs to be ripped. It doesn't matter that 99.99% of the population knows these guys were juiced out of their minds from a very early beginning. Best to ignore them.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: The Onion on May 26, 2013, 07:34:59 AM
CT Fletcher is a man of action... not so much of reaction but of action.

Job.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: OTHstrong on May 26, 2013, 03:38:39 PM
You are dealing with very delusional people. Mcway is the King of permabulkers. Sadly, his delusions cross over into many other areas as well. Permabulkers really have no idea what's going on as they think their 250 lb frame is all muscle and they only need to lose 10 lbs to be ripped. It doesn't matter that 99.99% of the population knows these guys were juiced out of their minds from a very early beginning. Best to ignore them.
Best post of the entire thread.

DELUSIONAL PEOPLE HERE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.   :-[
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 26, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
if you havent seen first training video wtf are you even doing on getbig


gtfo noob

PLEASE!! I've been on Getbig for nearly 10 years. I was here before you brought your sorry I-need-roids-and-a-so-called-world-class-trainer-to-get-a-whopping-16"-arm-woe-is-me-blubbering self to this forum.

And, I'll be here, long after you leave (and your arms shrink back to normal, after your newly acquired bills and responsibilities rob you of your ability to buy anabolics).
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 26, 2013, 05:16:56 PM
Can't take this guy seriously for one second.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 26, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
You are dealing with very delusional people. Mcway is the King of permabulkers. Sadly, his delusions cross over into many other areas as well. Permabulkers really have no idea what's going on as they think their 250 lb frame is all muscle and they only need to lose 10 lbs to be ripped. It doesn't matter that 99.99% of the population knows these guys were juiced out of their minds from a very early beginning. Best to ignore them.

If that's the case, why don't you take your own advice? Perhaps, it's because you, like Halo, are among the usual class of weepy, wimpy, permaleaners, who can't take a leak or tie his shoe without a syringe full of<<name the flavor-of-the-month-anabolic-on-the-'hardcore'-forum>>......just to reach crackhead status.

Since, at no time did I ever claim that my 250-lb frame (which it isn't at the moment, anyway) was all muscle nor was I a mere 10 pounds from being ripped, your blubbering falls flat as usual. Just be sure to take your stack of Winstrol and Deca, before you head to Zumba class, lest the girls there outdo you in the booty-shake routine.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: no one on May 26, 2013, 05:26:33 PM
no six pack, no cuts, no bullshiit, real iron pumping, no walking around working abs, none of the shit that getbiggers post everyday that give one a getbig world class physique at 7% bodyfat, why dont some of you learn something from this, this is what big is, belly hangin out and 290 lbs big as fuck, thats how its done, no fluffer twink getbigger crap goin on here, you guys should learn something.

dude. just cause your unhealthily fat, and weak just in general, not just for your 'size', dont use this example to validate your own appearance and condition cause it just isnt working.

of all the people who should not be taking anabolics (and trust me i'd recommend them in moderation to almost male over the age of 40), i would say you are one of them. all they are doing is unfortunately in your case (and if you are 'clean' just your lifestyle in general) is making you very unhealthy thru poor eating practises, over consumption of food and clearly a total lack of any kind of physical activity that would demand the need for those calories, let alone enough activity to be considered at a level to be a healthy pursuit.

so, in short my friend, perhaps it is you who should 'learn something'.

Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 26, 2013, 05:36:26 PM
you , you are no cuts and belly hanging out.

fletcher has cuts.

these days he has, when younger he didnt.

hes an absolute idiot and liar none the less, he said theres no such thing like overtraining, only undereating ::)

such brilliant advice has given birth to many permabulkers, i mean does this guy look remotely like a scientist or doctor to you?

his first meal a day used to be 3-4 calories at mcdonalds i think.wow, some advice.

these days hes not so bloofy anymore, quite fairly lean, i bet he dont eat like that anymore.



Actually, that "no overtraining, just overeating" thing was a hall mark of a guy you may remember from the late 80s/early 90s, John Parillo.

He's the dude that had people eating up to 10,000 calories per day, doing intense sets beyond failure, and engaging in fascia stretching to make room for more muscle growth.

One of his more famous success stories was 1995 ASC Champion, Mike Francois. He used to compete as a light-heavyweight, before he met Parillo and trainer Greg Greenzalis, who put him on a mega-high calorie diet. By 1991, Francois became a MONSTER and got serious notice by winning the first MuscleMania (Chicago) show. An ESPN poll was used to elect a grand champion from the 5 MuscleMania winners that year. Francois won with ease, over the like of Dennis Newman (San Diego), Teddy Lopes (Rhode Island), Sal Princiotta (Philadephia), and Nick Sillette (Atlanta).

Back to Parillo, he believed that bodybuilders could train harder and recover quicker from that training, if they were eating super-high quality and quantity calories. Fletcher apparently has similar beliefs (though the quality part was a bit suspect).

 
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Schnauzer on May 26, 2013, 05:58:08 PM
If that's the case, why don't you take your own advice? Perhaps, it's because you, like Halo, are among the usual class of weepy, wimpy, permaleaners, who can't take a leak or tie his shoe without a syringe full of<<name the flavor-of-the-month-anabolic-on-the-'hardcore'-forum>>......just to reach crackhead status.

Since, at no time did I ever claim that my 250-lb frame (which it isn't at the moment, anyway) was all muscle nor was I a mere 10 pounds from being ripped, your blubbering falls flat as usual. Just be sure to take your stack of Winstrol and Deca, before you head to Zumba class, less the girls there outdo you in the booty-shake routine.

Ha ha, man I like this post ;D
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Mawse on May 27, 2013, 02:08:06 AM
Actually, that "no overtraining, just overeating" thing was a hall mark of a guy you may remember from the late 80s/early 90s, John Parillo.

He's the dude that had people eating up to 10,000 calories per day, doing intense sets beyond failure, and engaging in fascia stretching to make room for more muscle growth.

One of his more famous success stories was 1995 ASC Champion, Mike Francois. He used to compete as a light-heavyweight, before he met Parillo and trainer Greg Greenzalis, who put him on a mega-high calorie diet. By 1991, Francois became a MONSTER and got serious notice by winning the first MuscleMania show. An ESPN poll was used to elect a grand champion from the 5 MuscleMania winners that year. Francois won with ease, over the like of Dennis Newman (San Diego), Teddy Lopes (Rhode Island), Sal Princiotta (Philadephia), and Nick Sillette (Atlanta).

Back to Parillo, he believed that bodybuilders could train harder and recover quicker from that training, if they were eating super-high quality and quantity calories. Fletcher apparently has similar beliefs (though the quality part was a bit suspect).

 

You are very gullible and your posts irritate the piss out of me. But what's this I read about you being a fatty as well as simple minded?
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on May 27, 2013, 12:01:23 PM
You are very gullible and your posts irritate the piss out of me. But what's this I read about you being a fatty as well as simple minded?

If I actually cared, I'd be flattered. As for my allegedly being a "fatty" or "simple-minded", that is merely the sour grapes of twiggy permaleaners, mad at the world because they need anabolics to boost themselves to the levels of jumbo shrimp.

It's as old a deal in bodybuilding as cement weights are. Crackhead-looking guys see someone much bigger and stronger than they are, who aren't ripped but are swole by anybody's standards and they start wailing about how "fat" those guys are vs. how "lean" they are.

And it sounds to me as if you're among their ranks. You can't do Pilates without a stack. Spend more than 10 minutes on the StairMaster? Better get the Winstrol ready!

And, if you load up on Clenbuterol, MAYBE you'll be as "lean" as the over-caffeinated aerobics bunny with the headset mike, rocking her newly-purchased breast-tis-sis.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: sean on May 27, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
Its been my observation that the more one cusses, the less intelligent they tend to be so they make up with it by using a bunch of fluff in their speech.  You know.. the guy that uses 'fuckn' every other word.. You sound like a dipshit. That said, I like to cuss when appropriate, just not as much as CT. And, I'm sure he's smarter than that so why bother with all the language? Arrested development? Wasn't allowed to use bad words at home as a kid so now he's letting loose? I went through that phase around age 11-12...
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: Parker on May 27, 2013, 01:15:04 PM
Its been my observation that the more one cusses, the less intelligent they tend to be so they make up with it by using a bunch of fluff in their speech.  You know.. the guy that uses 'fuckn' every other word.. You sound like a dipshit. That said, I like to cuss when appropriate, just not as much as CT. And, I'm sure he's smarter than that so why bother with all the language? Arrested development? Wasn't allowed to use bad words at home as a kid so now he's letting loose? I went through that phase around age 11-12...
There is a saying, that was told to Malcolm X: "A man curses because he doesn't have the words to express himself."

That being said, he said that his father was a minister, and whipped his and brother's ass on the regular. And was real strict. And that they weren't allowed to do that much in terms of entertainment or say that much, so when their father was out, they'd use cussing as a way to entertain themselves. I'm quite sure he knows when it's appropriate to cuss or not---what settings. But, he's just cutting loose.
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: falco on June 03, 2013, 06:00:41 AM
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: anabolichalo on June 03, 2013, 06:49:27 AM

what's the point?

guy is juiced to the gills

no  test required
Title: Re: Does CTFLETCHER still claim natural now that he isnt "censored" anymore?
Post by: MCWAY on June 03, 2013, 07:01:48 PM


I just saw this yesterday. CT apparently has thrown down the proverbial gauntlet.