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This sleazy, dishonest, lying, scandalous, cheap whore stole my dog. Few months ago we ended whatever we had, and she had the dog while I was away for couple weeks. At the time this was ok, since I couldn't take him with me and she loves this dog more than she cares for any human being (she sleeps with him, feeds him off plate, refers to him as her "son" and her "legacy") ever. When I came back this slut had changed residences, screens her calls, and won't return any text messages or emails. Attempts by mutual friends to contact her about this likewise are screened so that she never answers cell phone. I have recently tracked her to a relatives house not too far away...
A quick background on this dog, it was only 14 weeeks old when I got him (he's 4 year old now), pure bred, male, blue, PitBull. I answered an ad in the paper on my own, met the breeder, paid $1,000 for him as a friend/companion for my older male PitBull who recently died. When i brought him home she talked shit, tha it was too much responsibility, blah blah b4 falling in love with the little guy the same night. We all lived together until recently when she was supposed to be temporarily watching the dog, wanting to spend time with it. The crazy bitch now is on the lam over an animal that she feels entitled to.
My getbig plea for advice is, can I take this dog from her relatives property without getting arrested? Her relative is an old bag, half senile, who more than likely not even realize what is going on if I showed up when the thieving whore isn't home and put a leash on the dog and left. I probably could get some sort of notarized reciept and leave a copy to announce my rightful repossession of my PROPERTY. If it is true (?) possession is 9/10ths of the law, would I be best off getting the dog with me by any measure, rather than try to fight her legally while she is in possession of the dog (and also likely move/run again)?
How would a getbigger handle this filthy, stealing, greedy, prostitute?
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why would anyone pay 1k for a pitt
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think of the welfare of the dog and the life he has with her. put your own feelings and wants aside. do what's best for the dog. leave him with her. give another dog who needs love and a good home one.
cheers.
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why would anyone pay 1k for a pitt
pure bred. breeding
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Any pics of this sleezy whore?
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Would she or the relative take money for the dog? Most folks loosen up when you throw money at them.
While I'm sure you'd be breaking they law over it (she'll claim you gifted her the dog, etc.....), I'd go over and get the dog when no one's looking.
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I'd just let it go...And that's only because you say she loves the dog better than any human being...Cut your losses and know that the dog will be taken care of. Animals shouldn't be possessions...I know it's easier said than done considering the money you paid for the dog, but at least the dog will be loved...Even if it is by a sleazy whore...
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This sleazy, dishonest, lying, scandalous, cheap whore stole my dog. Few months ago we ended whatever we had, and she had the dog while I was away for couple weeks. At the time this was ok, since I couldn't take him with me and she loves this dog more than she cares for any human being (she sleeps with him, feeds him off plate, refers to him as her "son" and her "legacy") ever. When I came back this slut had changed residences, screens her calls, and won't return any text messages or emails. Attempts by mutual friends to contact her about this likewise are screened so that she never answers cell phone. I have recently tracked her to a relatives house not too far away...
A quick background on this dog, it was only 14 weeeks old when I got him (he's 4 year old now), pure bred, male, blue, PitBull. I answered an ad in the paper on my own, met the breeder, paid $1,000 for him as a friend/companion for my older male PitBull who recently died. When i brought him home she talked shit, tha it was too much responsibility, blah blah b4 falling in love with the little guy the same night. We all lived together until recently when she was supposed to be temporarily watching the dog, wanting to spend time with it. The crazy bitch now is on the lam over an animal that she feels entitled to.
My getbig plea for advice is, can I take this dog from her relatives property without getting arrested? Her relative is an old bag, half senile, who more than likely not even realize what is going on if I showed up when the thieving whore isn't home and put a leash on the dog and left. I probably could get some sort of notarized reciept and leave a copy to announce my rightful repossession of my PROPERTY. If it is true (?) possession is 9/10ths of the law, would I be best off getting the dog with me by any measure, rather than try to fight her legally while she is in possession of the dog (and also likely move/run again)?
How would a getbigger handle this filthy, stealing, greedy, prostitute?
This is a civil matter and you would need to file a case in small claims or something of the equivalent. If you enter their property you could be shot depending what state you live in. I know if someone came on my property trying to take something that wasn`t theirs, I would shoot at them and I could do so legally.
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Would she or the relative take money for the dog? Most folks loosen up when you throw money at them.
While I'm sure you'd be breaking they law over it (she'll claim you gifted her the dog, etc.....), I'd go over and get the dog when no one's looking.
OJ Simpson tried to "steal" his "property" back. Look how that worked out for him.
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OJ Simpson tried to "steal" his "property" back. Look how that worked out for him.
Yeah, I get that, I'd just feel bad leaving the dog, because with the way the girl seems to move around she seems like she's the type that might fall out of love with the dog and leave it.
I do still think offering her cash for the dog during one of her down periods seems the best route.
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Do you even miss the dog or are you just mad she took your property?
If you have to travel often, maybe the dog will have a better life with her. If she's stable and will take good care of him.
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Dogs originally were used as watchdogs and farm help, beside other uses like search and rescue, in addition to hunting.
Now western culture has pencil neck phaggots picking up dog shit in public thinking it's fucking trendy and cool.
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think of the welfare of the dog and the life he has with her. put your own feelings and wants aside. do what's best for the dog. leave him with her. give another dog who needs love and a good home one.
cheers.
Good call. And maybe stop by your local pound and see if there is a pooch that needs a good home.
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This sleazy, dishonest, lying, scandalous, cheap whore stole my dog. Few months ago we ended whatever we had, and she had the dog while I was away for couple weeks. At the time this was ok, since I couldn't take him with me and she loves this dog more than she cares for any human being (she sleeps with him, feeds him off plate, refers to him as her "son" and her "legacy") ever. When I came back this slut had changed residences, screens her calls, and won't return any text messages or emails. Attempts by mutual friends to contact her about this likewise are screened so that she never answers cell phone. I have recently tracked her to a relatives house not too far away...
A quick background on this dog, it was only 14 weeeks old when I got him (he's 4 year old now), pure bred, male, blue, PitBull. I answered an ad in the paper on my own, met the breeder, paid $1,000 for him as a friend/companion for my older male PitBull who recently died. When i brought him home she talked shit, tha it was too much responsibility, blah blah b4 falling in love with the little guy the same night. We all lived together until recently when she was supposed to be temporarily watching the dog, wanting to spend time with it. The crazy bitch now is on the lam over an animal that she feels entitled to.
My getbig plea for advice is, can I take this dog from her relatives property without getting arrested? Her relative is an old bag, half senile, who more than likely not even realize what is going on if I showed up when the thieving whore isn't home and put a leash on the dog and left. I probably could get some sort of notarized reciept and leave a copy to announce my rightful repossession of my PROPERTY. If it is true (?) possession is 9/10ths of the law, would I be best off getting the dog with me by any measure, rather than try to fight her legally while she is in possession of the dog (and also likely move/run again)?
How would a getbigger handle this filthy, stealing, greedy, prostitute?
File charges against her for theft of your property.
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On one hand this could be considered theft of your property. Petty theft or a misdemeanor depending on the state. The big other hand is what you did is Burglary which is a felony by entering a dwelling to take something that could be considered a civil case to get on ruling on whose possession it is. If the dog is better off with her because she treats it so well why don't you give it to her and end the relationship.
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Also, one can sue her for the taking of property...writ of replevin.
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This sleazy, dishonest, lying, scandalous, cheap whore stole my dog.
LOL. I didn't have to read the rest to figure where this was going. ;D
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You left the door open for this when you chose the convenience of leaving the dog with her instead of taking care of it....you know, like a dog owner would.
Either you go take it back, she owes you the money you paid for it(which you will never get), or you leave it in a good home.
Sorry man, sucks but facts are facts...
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If you want the dog simply for the it's "retail" reason.... than she should keep the dog. But.. if you want the dog cause you lost a friend or companion.. lie, cheat, and steal to get your buddy back!!! >:(
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If you paid for the dog and have a receipt and if you registered your dog and it shows you are the owner then yes, you can actually call the cops and have them help you get your dog back.
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Call the mayor of bodybuilding for assistance.
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sell the dog to a chinese restaurant and split the profits
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sell the dog to a chinese restaurant and split the profits
What a stupid comment
Chinese never split profits ;D
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This is a civil matter and you would need to file a case in small claims or something of the equivalent. If you enter their property you could be shot depending what state you live in. I know if someone came on my property trying to take something that wasn`t theirs, I would shoot at them and I could do so legally.
Be careful Adam, you cannot shoot at a common thief in NC. Even if they're trying to steal your property. >:(
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Be careful Adam, you cannot shoot at a common thief in NC. Even if they're trying to steal your property. >:(
You sure can! Its been revised. It even applies to your car and workplace. All they need is for you to believe that they have an "intent" to commit a felony on your property and you can shoot them. The new law also modifies rules of self-defense and defense of others.
http://www.wccbcharlotte.com/news/local/North-Carolinas-new-Castle-Doctine-gun-law-takes-effect-Dec-1st-134793228.html
(http://media.wccbcharlotte.com/images/castle+doctrine.jpg)
Under the new law, the lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle or workplace isn't required to retreat prior to using deadly force. The law presumes that a person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter one of these locations intends to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
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You sure can! Its been revised. It even applies to your car and workplace. All they need is for you to believe that they have an "intent" to commit a felony on your property and you can shoot them. The new law also modifies rules of self-defense and defense of others.
http://www.wccbcharlotte.com/news/local/North-Carolinas-new-Castle-Doctine-gun-law-takes-effect-Dec-1st-134793228.html
(http://media.wccbcharlotte.com/images/castle+doctrine.jpg)
Under the new law, the lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle or workplace isn't required to retreat prior to using deadly force. The law presumes that a person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter one of these locations intends to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
I think you're misinterpretting the law. If a thief is on your property stealing the wheels off your vehicle, you cannot shoot them. If a thief takes your jewelry in the middle of the night, and is climbing out your window, you cannot shoot them. If a thief is breaking into your house, you can shoot them. If a thief is breaking into your car, and you're in it, you can shoot them.
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What a stupid comment
Chinese never split profits ;D
a rotta good raffs on this fred
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I think you're misinterpretting the law. If a thief is on your property stealing the wheels off your vehicle, you cannot shoot them. If a thief takes your jewelry in the middle of the night, and is climbing out your window, you cannot shoot them. If a thief is breaking into your house, you can shoot them. If a thief is breaking into your car, and you're in it, you can shoot them.
Not true. I have talked to the local police about this and they said if I hear rustling around in my outbuilding, I can shoot no questions asked.
The NC law recently changed and they go by on intent. Your outbuildings and car and even workplace are covered. You don`t have to be in any of them either.
I can post some instances of people shooting and killing trespassers/thieves in NC if you are interested.
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http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/Sessions/2011/Bills/House/PDF/H650v5.pdf
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The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of
unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a
home, motor vehicle, or workplace
The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an
unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or
had
occurred
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he person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of
unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a
home, motor vehicle, or workplace
The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an
unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or
had
occurred
So by that argument you could shoot them a week later.
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TSo by that argument you could shoot them a week later.
No, read the law. It does not allow for that.
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No, read the law. It does not allow for that.
Just had a quick skim, its pretty worrying that you could lawfully shoot your daughters boyfriend who she had brought home to sleep over and be totally immune from prosecution.
Who pushed for this law, Charlton Heston?
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Well if the "local police" told you that you can do it then it must be true. I don't know the first thing about this law but if they're wrong, which they may very well be, it won't be much of a defense in your capital murder trial to claim that the local cop told you it was alright to shoot the person "no questions asked." You can't be serious.
I posted the the law in its entirety and its correct. (see link)
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Just had a quick skim, its pretty worrying that you could lawfully shoot your daughters boyfriend who she had brought home to sleep over and be totally immune from prosecution.
Who pushed for this law, Charlton Heston?
I like this law a lot. We do have a Republican Controlled House and Senate and now Governor. They do a lot of things wrong, REALLY WRONG (trying to stop Tesla Motors from selling to customers Directly) and they get some things right. This one they got right.
Trust me, people are certainly thinking twice now breaking or entering your house or property when they know they can die.
Not too far from me it happened. Guy was trying to climb through a window, the home owner pulled up and unloaded on him. Nobody was in the house, but that didn`t matter. Home Owner was justified.
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Not true. I have talked to the local police about this and they said if I hear rustling around in my outbuilding, I can shoot no questions asked.
The NC law recently changed and they go by on intent. Your outbuildings and car and even workplace are covered. You don`t have to be in any of them either.
I can post some instances of people shooting and killing trespassers/thieves in NC if you are interested.
Trust me, your local police are dead wrong. NC castle doctrine only allows you to use deadly force if you believe you fear death or serious bodily harm. North Carolina law does not allow the use of deadly force solely to protect property, or to prevent theft, or to regain stolen property. The amendment that was made to the NC castle doctrine was to include cars and businesses.
14-51.2. Home, workplace, and motor vehicle protection; presumption of fear of death or serious bodily harm.
The lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle, or workplace is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily harm to another if both of the following apply:
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Trust me, your local police are dead wrong. NC castle doctrine only allows you to use deadly force if you believe you fear death or serious bodily harm. North Carolina law does not allow the use of deadly force solely to protect property, or to prevent theft, or to regain stolen property. The amendment that was made to the NC castle doctrine was to include cars and businesses.
14-51.2. Home, workplace, and motor vehicle protection; presumption of fear of death or serious bodily harm.
The lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle, or workplace is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily harm to another if both of the following apply:
They aren`t wrong. A Lawful Occupant does not have to be within his home to use deadly force.
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Trust me, people are certainly thinking twice now breaking or entering your house or property when they know they can die.
They dont think twice about bringing a gun with them now though either.
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I think the police are right.
The law presumes that the lawful occupant "held a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily harm." Admittedly this is a rebuttable presumption but if the state wanted to prosecute you it would have to show that you didn't fear "imminent death or serious bodily harm," which would be difficult to do if you said differently and were otherwise a law-abiding individual.
Exactly. Especially if someone is found on your property with any type of weapon. Even a hammer. The Law has worked Very Well so far.
"Fear of Bodily Harm" does not require the intruder to have a weapon either.
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At the time this was ok, since I couldn't take him with me and she loves this dog more than she cares for any human being (she sleeps with him, feeds him off plate, refers to him as her "son" and her "legacy") ever. When I came back this slut had changed residences, screens her calls, and won't return any text messages or emails.
If what you said above is true, then you should of known better not to leave the dog with her and expect to get it back.
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They dont think twice about bringing a gun with them now though either.
They certainly do. (they won`t even attempt to break in) Especially in places where there is no Ordinance shooting guns. If a criminal knows that every single house has a gun and a person willing to use it in defense, they aren`t going to want to take that chance. Especially if you live in a place where almost everyone is a hunter.
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They aren`t wrong. A Lawful Occupant does not have to be within his home to use deadly force.
I understand that. What your not understanding about your castle doctrine is that it only allows you to use deadly force if you feel that you or someone else is in imminent danger of death or bodily harm. You really need to talk to some more LEO's besides your locals. I travel to NC frequently, and I know the law well. If someone is steeling your lawnmower out of your shed, and you start shooting them, you will have to convince the DA and jury that you feared for your life. Please read the following, and maybe question a self defense lawyer.
http://www.nchandguntraining.com/laws.php
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The law doesn't allow you to use force to regain stolen property. That is true. Also, if you shoot someone on your property in broad daylight who was stealing a flower pot off of your porch it would not be wise to say that you shot him because he was taking your flower pot.
Exactly. There would have to be reasonable fear. If Grandma is taking your flower pot and you plug her, you are going to have a very bad time and it probably won`t be justified.
Now if Grandma was Jamal who just got out of prison for Attempted Murder, you might have a better chance of making it in your favor.
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This sleazy, dishonest, lying, scandalous, cheap whore stole my dog. Few months ago we ended whatever we had, and she had the dog while I was away for couple weeks. At the time this was ok, since I couldn't take him with me and she loves this dog more than she cares for any human being (she sleeps with him, feeds him off plate, refers to him as her "son" and her "legacy") ever. When I came back this slut had changed residences, screens her calls, and won't return any text messages or emails. Attempts by mutual friends to contact her about this likewise are screened so that she never answers cell phone. I have recently tracked her to a relatives house not too far away...
A quick background on this dog, it was only 14 weeeks old when I got him (he's 4 year old now), pure bred, male, blue, PitBull. I answered an ad in the paper on my own, met the breeder, paid $1,000 for him as a friend/companion for my older male PitBull who recently died. When i brought him home she talked shit, tha it was too much responsibility, blah blah b4 falling in love with the little guy the same night. We all lived together until recently when she was supposed to be temporarily watching the dog, wanting to spend time with it. The crazy bitch now is on the lam over an animal that she feels entitled to.
My getbig plea for advice is, can I take this dog from her relatives property without getting arrested? Her relative is an old bag, half senile, who more than likely not even realize what is going on if I showed up when the thieving whore isn't home and put a leash on the dog and left. I probably could get some sort of notarized reciept and leave a copy to announce my rightful repossession of my PROPERTY. If it is true (?) possession is 9/10ths of the law, would I be best off getting the dog with me by any measure, rather than try to fight her legally while she is in possession of the dog (and also likely move/run again)?
How would a getbigger handle this filthy, stealing, greedy, prostitute?
Like you say possession is 9 points of the law. If I were you, I would do whatever it takes to get my dog back, including dognapping him.
Awhile back there was a situation where this fellow's dog had escaped his yard. A female college student found the dog an took it home. Sometime later, by chance the fellow sees his lost dog in the woman's vehicle. She refused to return the dog. I believe he kidnapped it or took her to court to get the dog back. The poor puppy ended up in an animal shelter until the case was settled. The legal wrangling when on for sometime. In the end the fellow got his dog back and she was charged with something as well a fined. This case may be wholly different from yours, but I thought you'd be interested.
If you are interested in knowing more about this case, here is a link to a fairly recent news story: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/corvallis_woman_who_wouldnt_re.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/corvallis_woman_who_wouldnt_re.html)
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I understand that. What your not understanding about your castle doctrine is that it only allows you to use deadly force if you feel that you or someone else is in imminent danger of death or bodily harm. You really need to talk to some more LEO's besides your locals. I travel to NC frequently, and I know the law well. If someone is steeling your lawnmower out of your shed, and you start shooting them, you will have to convince the DA and jury that you feared for your life. Please read the following, and maybe question a self defense lawyer.
http://www.nchandguntraining.com/laws.php
It really depends on the circumstances.
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Funny you should say that because it looks like the African-American caucus in the NC state legislature has offered legislation to change this law. Being that this is NC, the bill has gone nowhere.
NC law is very clear and simple. You cannot use deadly force unless you feel that you're in danger of death or bodily harm. Per Adam, his local LEO's told him that if he heard rustling in his shed, he could start firing. That is wrong, wrong, wrong. What if he does hear rustling, starts shooting, and a 10 year old boy falls out of the shed with multiple GSW's. He will be charged with manslaughter, and will have to convince a jury that he feared for his life. If someone is breaking into your car, shed, outhouse, etc, and you're inside your home and are not in immediate danger, you cannot start shooting at them. Furthermore, if the criminal has committed a crime and is trying to flee, you cannot shoot at them. This lawyer does a good job of explaining it.
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NC law is very clear and simple. You cannot use deadly force unless you feel that you're in danger of death or bodily harm. Per Adam, his local LEO's told him that if he heard rustling in his shed, he could start firing. That is wrong, wrong, wrong. What if he does hear rustling, starts shooting, and a 10 year old boy falls out of the shed with multiple GSW's. He will be charged with manslaughter, and will have to convince a jury that he feared for his life. If someone is breaking into your car, shed, outhouse, etc, and you're inside your home and are not in immediate danger, you cannot start shooting at them. Furthermore, if the criminal has committed a crime and is trying to flee, you cannot shoot at them. This lawyer does a good job of explaining it.
Video is irrelevant as it is from 2009- Before the law was changed and does not reflect the current status of the law.
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Rustling in garden
TA lets loose a barrage of shots
Kid falls out of bushes holding a football
TA claims he thought he was in grave danger.
Lawyer asks simple question
"What made you think you were in grave danger?"
TA says..
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Of course TA has to explain himself.
He will be asked why he believed himself to be in grave danger, he will have to provide reasons.
He cant just sit there and say "I thought I was in grave danger", have you forgotten about cross examining counsel?
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Rustling in garden
TA lets loose a barrage of shots
Kid falls out of bushes holding a football
TA claims he thought he was in grave danger.
Lawyer asks simple question
"What made you think you were in grave danger?"
TA says..
TA says it was 3:00 am and the kid had to climb a gate, an electric fence and barb wire to enter my property. TA also says the football looked like a weapon. TA also states that nobody in 4 miles has any children and wonders why a child would have been there in the first place.
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Actually, he doesn't. The burden of proof in a criminal case is on the state and this law more or less shifts the burden on the state to show that TA didn't feel he was in fear of imminent harm.
This is correct.
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Video is irrelevant as it is from 2009- Before the law was changed and does not reflect the current status of the law.
This video pertains to everything in NC's current castle doctrine. You really need to talk to a CHL instructor, or FTI. You previously stated that you could legally shoot anyone who came onto your property trying to take something. That is just not true, and I would hate for you to follow through with it.
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TA says it was 3:00 am and the kid had to climb a gate, an electric fence and barb wire to enter my property. TA also says the football looked like a weapon. TA also states that nobody in 4 miles has any children and wonders why a child would have been there in the first place.
Then TA has justification.
Now suppose its two in the afternoon, TAs fence is only 6 feet tall, TA couldnt see anything in the buses, the area is a family community.
Now, are you still justified in opening fire, because everything you have said up to now would allow you to according to your earlier definition of the law.
"Hey, I thought I was in grave danger officer"
Would that still wash?
Not true. I have talked to the local police about this and they said if I hear rustling around in my outbuilding, I can shoot no questions asked.
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Has he gone? ;D
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Adam, please read the following pamphlet distributed by the NC Sherrif's Association. It covers many instances of when you can and cannot you a weapon for deadly force. You really need to take a CHL class, or a firearms training class. HTH! :D
http://www.ncsheriffs.org/documents/Concealed%20Handgun%20Permits.pdf
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Real & well trained dog like German Shepard/Great Dane could not be stolen by pussy ::) ::) ::)
Puddles & other rats a not really dogs.
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Pretty simple go and take the fucking dog and when she calls you say you where driving by and saw the dog wandering on the street and you took him, and if she says give me back the dog you say its mine and if you want it back you can take me to court, most likely she will drop it.
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Thanks from anyone who offered a sincere reply, this thread wasn't meant to be a joke, and I appreciate any advice that was real.
If it wasn't clear from my original post, giving her money for the dog is not an option whatsoever. I am sure she wouldnt accept even an insane amount I couldnt afford (6 figures would not cut it), again she is 29 with no kids or siblings, she turned this dog into some sort of blood family member in her deluded mind. So no amount of money or reasoning will work, it's either deception or try my luck in court (which goes against my prinicipals, i.e. using the government to fight your battles).
I love the dog, it's not about who will give him a "better" home as someone mentioned, it's MY dog. Once I have full possession of him again, I'd be willing to work out a split custody deal in order to be fair to the dog; I don't want to play hardball, but there seems to be no choice! No chance of being shot either BTW. I am wondering if cops would even bother if they were called??? and would a notarized bill of sale be worthwhile??? and what approach should I use to get my boy back?!?!?
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Thanks from anyone who offered a sincere reply, this thread wasn't meant to be a joke, and I appreciate any advice that was real.
I am wondering if cops would even bother if they were called??? and would a notarized bill of sale be worthwhile??? and what approach should I use to get my boy back?!?!?
A bill of sale is helpful as it establishes you as the original owner. You should also get her to admit in front of witnesses that she was borrowing the dog, and that it wasn't a gift or left with her with no expectation of return.
The problem is that if she takes you to small claims court, she might say that you gifted the dog to her or just left it there, and you are just a spiteful boyfriend. If she could convince a judge of something like that, she could get the dog back. You need to get her to admit infront of witnesses that the dog was never a gift and that she only was suppose to have temporary possession of it.
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Not true. I have talked to the local police about this and they said if I hear rustling around in my outbuilding, I can shoot no questions asked.
The NC law recently changed and they go by on intent. Your outbuildings and car and even workplace are covered. You don`t have to be in any of them either.
I can post some instances of people shooting and killing trespassers/thieves in NC if you are interested.
Rule#1- identify your target
Rule#2- identify what behind your target
I find it hard to believe "Rustling around" would be concidered a good shoot
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Rule#1- identify your target
Rule#2- identify what behind your target
I find it hard to believe "Rustling around" would be concidered a good shoot
It's not a good shot, and his local LEO's are either misinformed (which is entirely possible), or Adam misunderstood their advice. I like your rules, and they would go far in many sticky situations. I would like to add a third rule though if I may.
Rule#1- Identify your target.
Rule#2- Identify what behind your target.
Rule#3- Determine if there is any other option besides firing.
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Rule#1- identify your target
Rule#2- identify what behind your target
I find it hard to believe "Rustling around" would be concidered a good shoot
dont worry mate TA wont be back, he got caught trolling in this thread with his blatant contradiction.
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This sleazy, dishonest, lying, scandalous, cheap whore stole my dog. Few months ago we ended whatever we had, and she had the dog while I was away for couple weeks. At the time this was ok, since I couldn't take him with me and she loves this dog more than she cares for any human being (she sleeps with him, feeds him off plate, refers to him as her "son" and her "legacy") ever. When I came back this slut had changed residences, screens her calls, and won't return any text messages or emails. Attempts by mutual friends to contact her about this likewise are screened so that she never answers cell phone. I have recently tracked her to a relatives house not too far away...
A quick background on this dog, it was only 14 weeeks old when I got him (he's 4 year old now), pure bred, male, blue, PitBull. I answered an ad in the paper on my own, met the breeder, paid $1,000 for him as a friend/companion for my older male PitBull who recently died. When i brought him home she talked shit, tha it was too much responsibility, blah blah b4 falling in love with the little guy the same night. We all lived together until recently when she was supposed to be temporarily watching the dog, wanting to spend time with it. The crazy bitch now is on the lam over an animal that she feels entitled to.
My getbig plea for advice is, can I take this dog from her relatives property without getting arrested? Her relative is an old bag, half senile, who more than likely not even realize what is going on if I showed up when the thieving whore isn't home and put a leash on the dog and left. I probably could get some sort of notarized reciept and leave a copy to announce my rightful repossession of my PROPERTY. If it is true (?) possession is 9/10ths of the law, would I be best off getting the dog with me by any measure, rather than try to fight her legally while she is in possession of the dog (and also likely move/run again)?
How would a getbigger handle this filthy, stealing, greedy, prostitute?
Your mom stole your dog???
THE BEEF
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dont worry mate TA wont be back, he got caught trolling in this thread with his blatant contradiction.
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You obviously have vet bills?.. You might even have cancelled checks I regards to bills.. If you can prove you were the owner through financial support its your dog and she stole it.. Make her get a attorney or even show police your proof and have them pay her a visit.. She ll cough up the dog...
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TA wrote
Not true. I have talked to the local police about this and they said if I hear rustling around in my outbuilding, I can shoot no questions asked.
then wrote
TA says it was 3:00 am and the kid had to climb a gate, an electric fence and barb wire to enter my property. TA also says the football looked like a weapon. TA also states that nobody in 4 miles has any children and wonders why a child would have been there in the first place.
I wrote
Now suppose its two in the afternoon, TAs fence is only 6 feet tall, TA couldnt see anything in the buses, the area is a family community.
Now, are you still justified in opening fire, because everything you have said up to now would allow you to according to your earlier definition of the law.
"Hey, I thought I was in grave danger officer"
Would that still wash?
Thats what you ran away from, you claimed a cop told you to simply open fire and you would be ok (no questions asked), then you felt the need to justify shooting a child on your property by creating a scenario which would allow it.
Try my scenario and ask yourself the same question, would the law be on your side in the same circumstances?
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Thanks to anyone who offered advice, especially last 2 pages like: Primemuscle, Cholo4life, the trainer, BB, Lats, etc. Getbig is a rare site where u can get this kind of advice when u r screwed over...
As far as courts and attorneys, this broad has the means and the motivation (not only loves dog, won't let me win anything since separation) to financially blitz me with lawyers, court costs, etc. That's how she is able to use her family to hide my dog--enormous amount of money :-/ Bottom line is, it's truly my dog, I bought it alone (not like we picked him out together and I paid) and she stole him. So any questionable activites (love the advice to just grab him out of yard ;-) needed to reach the end result is of no consequence. If I can do it without involving law, so much the better.
If it motivates any other planning someone might have for this "mission" know that this bitch hates this forum, and used to always talk shit about me reading and posting on here (especially MMA or BJJ stuff) to members she termed "loser drug addicts with no lives, girlfriends or jobs that don't even work out." True story BTW...
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TA wrote
then wroteI wrote
Thats what you ran away from, you claimed a cop told you to simply open fire and you would be ok (no questions asked), then you felt the need to justify shooting a child on your property by creating a scenario which would allow it.
Try my scenario and ask yourself the same question, would the law be on your side in the same circumstances?
You can construct 1000 different scenarios to end the way you want them to, and so can I. There is no point to your hypotheticals.
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Thanks to anyone who offered advice, especially last 2 pages like: Primemuscle, Cholo4life, the trainer, BB, Lats, etc. Getbig is a rare site where u can get this kind of advice when u r screwed over...
As far as courts and attorneys, this broad has the means and the motivation (not only loves dog, won't let me win anything since separation) to financially blitz me with lawyers, court costs, etc. That's how she is able to use her family to hide my dog--enormous amount of money :-/ Bottom line is, it's truly my dog, I bought it alone (not like we picked him out together and I paid) and she stole him. So any questionable activites (love the advice to just grab him out of yard ;-) needed to reach the end result is of no consequence. If I can do it without involving law, so much the better.
If it motivates any other planning someone might have for this "mission" know that this bitch hates this forum, and used to always talk shit about me reading and posting on here (especially MMA or BJJ stuff) to members she termed "loser drug addicts with no lives, girlfriends or jobs that don't even work out." True story BTW...
Could she be reading these posts on Getbig? Is she over you or is she holding a grudge. Clearly, she has a vindictive side since she stole your dog and she'd have to know how much you love your dog, right?
You are right on in that money buys people the best lawyers. People with money can often win by financially tapping out the plaintiff. If you talk to a lawyer and he of she thinks you have a case. Sue your x-girlfriend for all legal costs as well as money for and pain a suffering. If you are still thinking of stealing your dog back, be sure you have a way to legally prove it is your dog and not hers. That's how the fellow won in the example I sent you. BTW, the thief in that case is from moneyed parents too and he won. Of course, I have no idea what it cost him to win.