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Comic Books are a true American art form that have been produced by some of the greatest creators ever to hold a pencil or paintbrush. While many can be considered geniuses for the sheer amount of brilliance they have created, two names rise above all the others due to the unparalleled influence they possess. Those two titans of the medium are none other than Jack Kirby and Alex Toth. Their work has stretched decades throughout many genres and continue to inspire creators and fans alike. But which one has the right to be called the one true “KING” of comic books? For the first time ever, Jack Kirby and Alex Toth will be analytically broken down and compared head-to-head as we try to discover the truth. Enjoy a comprehensive and fresh look at these two legends in a way that is reminiscent of the superhero excitement that they are so famous for. Hero Envy presents: Jack Kirby vs Alex Toth: The Definitive Write Up on Proving Who's the Real King of Comics!
http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2013/06/jack-kirby-vs-alex-toth.html
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There's a new concept. It's called REALITY. You should look into it.
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Sky-Rider of the Spaceways...BANG!!!
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The real questions is Barry Windsor or John Buscema.
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The real questions is Barry Windsor or John Buscema.
Nice!! Gotta go with John Buscema...(even though I love them both)
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LOL....This is a joke. Of course it's Jack Kirby.
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Joe Mad.
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LOL....This is a joke. Of course it's Jack Kirby.
Wiggs always knew his shit...
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I know purists would crucify me but I always thought Kirby was over rated. I like his stuff and his style was unique. But art is subjective n that's just the way I see it. Sometimes I think it's just the cool thing to say how great Kirby was so everyone jumps on the band wagon.
I have some very old original drawings signed by buscema btw
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I know purists would crucify me but I always thought Kirby was over rated. I like his stuff and his style was unique. But art is subjective n that's just the way I see it. Sometimes I think it's just the cool thing to say how great Kirby was so everyone jumps on the band wagon.
I have some very old original drawings signed by buscema btw
Kirby's stuff in the 40's was remarkably influential on later comics; he established a lot of the theories for layout and pacing that became absolutely ubiquitous. In that regard he was instrumental in taking comic books away from their strip roots and toward their own thing. He created the very language of comics, and co-created more characters, concepts and worlds than any creator before or since, Kirby is a comics GOD.
Love Buscema btw, but even he went to Kirby for tips and knowledge on how to make the heroes "pop"! Buscema hated to draw superheroes, Spider-man was his least favorite. He was all about fantasy, that's why he worked on Conan for so many years...
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Isn't that your physique on stage there?
BTW, did you ever see Nighthawk on the Super Hero Squad Cartoon (second season)? He was voiced by Adam West, and it was pretty awesome.
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Isn't that your physique on stage there?
BTW, did you ever see Nighthawk on the Super Hero Squad Cartoon (second season)? He was voiced by Adam West, and it was pretty awesome.
;D ;D ;D
that's my goal man :)
but i only weigh bout a buck 55 although i am ripped and dry, but to reach nightwhawk status i gotta hit a buck 80 ripped and dry
no man i didn't see it, but i'll see if i can find it on youtube 8)
so what's the story with doing a piece on nighthawk and some of the more obscure characters? or maybe something on the defenders 8)
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Kirby = Legend and the Real King
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Amen...
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Kirby's stuff in the 40's was remarkably influential on later comics; he established a lot of the theories for layout and pacing that became absolutely ubiquitous. In that regard he was instrumental in taking comic books away from their strip roots and toward their own thing. He created the very language of comics, and co-created more characters, concepts and worlds than any creator before or since, Kirby is a comics GOD.
Love Buscema btw, but even he went to Kirby for tips and knowledge on how to make the heroes "pop"! Buscema hated to draw superheroes, Spider-man was his least favorite. He was all about fantasy, that's why he worked on Conan for so many years...
agreed. I know about his legacy and everything u say is spot on. Art wise he just isn't my fav. I do like his stuff tho.
John buscema n Ernie Chan. A match made by the gods.
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agreed. I know about his legacy and everything u say is spot on. Art wise he just isn't my fav. I do like his stuff tho.
John buscema n Ernie Chan. A match made by the gods.
Well, it seems that you really know your stuff.
John Buscema inked by Joe Sinnott (see Fantastic Four #111 and 112 from 1971)
or his brother Sal Buscema (see Silver Surfer #4 from 1969) is simply amazing and timeless stuff.
I always liked Ernie Chans inks over Sal rather than John. Sal and Ernie's Hulk stuff from the late 70's is comic gold...
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Well, it seems that you really know your stuff.
John Buscema inked by Joe Sinnott (see Fantastic Four #111 and 112 from 1971)
or his brother Sal Buscema (see Silver Surfer #4 from 1969) is simply amazing and timeless stuff.
I always liked Ernie Chans inks over Sal rather than John. Sal and Ernie's Hulk stuff from the late 70's is comic gold...
yup. Got a lot of hulks done by Sal back in the day. Even have the first appearance of wolverine where hulk is fighting wendigo. It's not mint but not bad either. I actually read my comics. I was in to Thor, Conan, Hulk, FF, but bought a mixture of everything. Even the old gene colan draculas. Still have them all and the first appearance of blade. Sal was good but something about johns work just clicked w me. Have all the savage swords and the conan the barbarian comics from number ones to when I stopped collecting. Gonna try n hit Columbus wizard con in sept.
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John Buscema/Ernie Chan are the best imho.
I may be somewhat limited in my scope here because I focus mostly on the Conan and SnS comics but I would also like to mention Enrique Alcatena, amazing detail in his designs.
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Ernie Chan was a great inker, some creators have said that sometimes his lines overpowered their work (I can see that) but he really meshed well with the Buscema brothers.
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Ernie Chan was a great inker, some creators have said that sometimes his lines overpowered their work (I can see that) but he really meshed well with the Buscema brothers.
When i was a kid, and learning how to draw I loved Ernie Chan, because he "drew" everything and his work was very dense.
As my own style matured I got into artists who were more into value and composition, perspective...etc. And it was as much as what they didn't draw as what they did...more effective use of light and subtle shading. Not drawing in every line.
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Well said...
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Carl Barks...
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Doug Mahnke rules.
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Can someone suggest a decent photo hosting site? I wanted to share some pix w u guys.
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Not really good at that stuff but what about...
photobucket.com
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Can someone suggest a decent photo hosting site? I wanted to share some pix w u guys.
Upload jpgs to this site...click additional options...you can have up to four per post, 500k per post.
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Upload jpgs to this site...click additional options...you can have up to four per post, 500k per post.
woah thx! That makes it so much easier.
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Ernie Chan was a great inker, some creators have said that sometimes his lines overpowered their work (I can see that) but he really meshed well with the Buscema brothers.
Sent Ernie Chan a message on facebook to thank him for all the great art on Hulk and other titles. He replied and told me he was glad to be a part of my childhood. I got to thank him before he passed on.
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Sent Ernie Chan a message on facebook to thank him for all the great art on Hulk and other titles. He replied and told me he was glad to be a part of my childhood. I got to thank him before he passed on.
Honestly, this is what it's all about.
That's great!!!
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Yeah, Indie. Anyway. Kirby for me. And don't forget Will Eisner! These days I'm trippin' on Al Williamson.
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For me its Jim Steranko's S.H.I.E.L.D. and Captain America.
I also liked when Denny O'neil and Neal Adams teamed up for Green Arrow and Gren Lantern or their stint with Batman.
Their green arrow/green lantern storylines were the best. Thats what comics were all about for me. Great art and story writing. They made current events fanciful and imaginative for younger readers. Their stories tackled racism, religion, pollution, drug addiction, poverty.
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For me its Jim Steranko's S.H.I.E.L.D. and Captain America.
I also liked when Denny O'neil and Neal Adams teamed up for Green Arrow and Gren Lantern or their stint with Batman.
Their green arrow/green lantern storylines were the best. Thats what comics were all about for me. Great art and story writing. They made current events fanciful and imaginative for younger readers. Their stories tackled racism, religion, pollution, drug addiction, poverty.
Jim Steranko is also a God, as well as Neal Adams...
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I didn't see Alfredo Alcala mentioned. His heavy inking was matched great with Jon Buscema.
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Sent Ernie Chan a message on facebook to thank him for all the great art on Hulk and other titles. He replied and told me he was glad to be a part of my childhood. I got to thank him before he passed on.
He died ? Now i feel like shit for what i said
This thread brings back memories. I don't join in the comics convos because it's been decades for me, but in my teens i had thousands of comics, made my own, and had all intentions of being an artist for a living. Went to college for fine art for 2 years...the whole nine.
And is not bragging, more like the dumbest thing i ever did letting it fall to the side. Every teacher i ever had said i had real talent and could make a living in the art field. Maybe not John Romita...but it would probably be more gratifying than being yet another douchebag who makes his living off the gigantic IT industry.
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He died ? Now i feel like shit for what i said
This thread brings back memories. I don't join in the comics convos because it's been decades for me, but in my teens i had thousands of comics, made my own, and had all intentions of being an artist for a living. Went to college for fine art for 2 years...the whole nine.
And is not bragging, more like the dumbest thing i ever did letting it fall to the side. Every teacher i ever had said i had real talent and could make a living in the art field. Maybe not John Romita...but it would probably be more gratifying than being yet another douchebag who makes his living off the gigantic IT industry.
Why can't you go back?
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I didn't see Alfredo Alcala mentioned. His heavy inking was matched great with Jon Buscema.
Yup. Not sure who I like better. Thye both inked his stuff incredibly well.
Here's my take on Buscema/Acala. Did this prolly twenty five years ago or more and never finished it. Then my gdam puppy peed on it lol!
wtf? why is it sideways. oh well
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Here's an old Buscema Namor...gdammit! sideways too.
Thanks to who flipped them right side up. They did stretch a bit.
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Silver Surfer... here he comes... look out!!!
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Silver Surfer... here he comes... look out!!!
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that is baddass. would like that on my wall
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They are both latent homosexuals. Does it really make a difference who the King and Queen are?
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that is baddass. would like that on my wall
Strange head shape=drug use.
I like the way Kirby drew action. One panel flows into the next. I read that Kirby, though short, was a tough guy who got into fights. Maybe that's why.
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Here's an old Buscema Namor...gdammit! sideways too.
Thanks to who flipped them right side up. They did stretch a bit.
John Buscema ALWAYS drew an awesome Namor!! Check out Sub-Mariner #8 from 1969 when he fights the Thing...total badass art!!!
Namor always had my dream physique!!
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He died ? Now i feel like shit for what i said
This thread brings back memories. I don't join in the comics convos because it's been decades for me, but in my teens i had thousands of comics, made my own, and had all intentions of being an artist for a living. Went to college for fine art for 2 years...the whole nine.
And is not bragging, more like the dumbest thing i ever did letting it fall to the side. Every teacher i ever had said i had real talent and could make a living in the art field. Maybe not John Romita...but it would probably be more gratifying than being yet another douchebag who makes his living off the gigantic IT industry.
did this have an underlying influence into getting into bbing/weights. I only ask this because I and another person discussed this in college. He was an artist, and he said the artwork influenced him into taking up bbing. To be like the comic book heroes.
And I believe that sitting under a tree, and just drawing away, being a landscape, or physiques is a more gratifying than what many of us do. You are creating something, on paper, from your own hand.
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did this have an underlying influence into getting into bbing/weights. I only ask this because I and another person discussed this in college. He was an artist, and he said the artwork influenced him into taking up bbing. To be like the comic book heroes.
And I believe that sitting under a tree, and just drawing away, being a landscape, or physiques is a more gratifying than what many of us do. You are creating something, on paper, from your own hand.
It kind of went hand in hand for me. The first "art" book I ever bought was Burne Hogarth's "dynamic anatomy" , and i was lifting weights at age 13. I've always thought the human body...both male and female, are an amazing blend of form/function and I was always interested in drawing physiques. As i got older i got away from solely drawing superheroes..
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It kind of went hand in hand for me. The first "art" book I ever bought was Burne Hogarth's "dynamic anatomy" , and i was lifting weights at age 13. I've always thought the human body...both male and female, are an amazing blend of form/function and I was always interested in drawing physiques. As i got older i got away from solely drawing superheroes..
I see. That was with my friend as well. I started drawing at an early age--cartoons, animals and dinosaurs. Never got into the drawing of the humans. The human body, nature, is art. Like you said. I agree.
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Mobius was another awesome illustrator.
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did this have an underlying influence into getting into bbing/weights. I only ask this because I and another person discussed this in college. He was an artist, and he said the artwork influenced him into taking up bbing. To be like the comic book heroes.
And I believe that sitting under a tree, and just drawing away, being a landscape, or physiques is a more gratifying than what many of us do. You are creating something, on paper, from your own hand.
I did for me. I read, drew and wrote my own comics at a very early age, around 3 if you can believe it. The bodies of Namor, Batman, Captain America, etc. did get me into weight training.
It all paid off because today I have my dream physique and I write for comics...funny how things turned out.
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Wut comics do u write?
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I write for BACK ISSUE magazine...check out the July 17th issue coming out...my article on Superman vs Captain Marvel is in it.
http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1067&zenid=7hdmc6ce98t5i2edkav76cg687
My comic just got picked up by Diamond and will be released on August 28th...all over the world! Order it at your comic shop now or here and let me know what you think!!!
https://pulllist.comixology.com/sku/JUN131256/Hero-Envy
Get paid a nice dime for my blog as well as some royalties.
http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/
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Batman??? ;)
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The Shroud. Blind like DD. Heightened senses.
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The Shroud. Blind like DD. Heightened senses.
yep, total badass is he 8)
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yep, total badass is he 8)
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Namor always had the greatest physique in comics IMHO!
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Mark your calendars and check your tv listings.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=84159
Liev Schreiber To Host SUPERHEROES: A NEVER-ENDING BATTLE
PBS have announced that the X-Men: Origins Wolverine actor will be the on-camera host for an upcoming 3-part tv show which is being billed as "one of the most comprehensive surveys of the vibrant comic book industry ever created".
SUPERHEROES: A NEVER-ENDING BATTLE is the first documentary to examine the dawn of the comic book genre and its powerful legacy, as well as the evolution of the characters who leapt from the pages over the last 75 years and their ongoing worldwide cultural impact. It chronicles how these “disposable diversions” were subject to intense government scrutiny for their influence on American children and how they were created in large part by the children of immigrants whose fierce loyalty to a new homeland laid the foundation for a multi-billion-dollar industry that is an influential part of our national identity. Among the notable on-camera talents in the film are Stan Lee, Adam West, Lynda Carter, Pulitzer Prize winners Michael Chabon and Jules Feiffer, and interviews with the late greats Joe Simon (co-creator of Captain America) and Jerry Robinson (who helped create the Joker).
“A show about superheroes needs a superhuman force to lead it; Liev Schreiber was perfectly cast as Sabretooth in ‘X-Men Origins: Wolverine,’ and he is the perfect host for this series,” said Michael Kantor, filmmaker behind SUPERHEROES: A NEVER-ENDING BATTLE and president of Ghost Light Films. “Liev’s commanding presence takes us through 75 years of heroes and villains –both in print and in real-life– as well as the multifaceted, multimedia industry whose characters continue to enthrall Americans and fans all over the world. We promise that after watching this series, no parent will ever dare to throw away their kid’s comic books again…”
The three episodes in SUPERHEROES are:
“Truth, Justice, and the American Way” (1938-1958) – October 8, 2013, 9:00 p.m. ET
During the Depression, the popularity of dozens of superhero characters opens the door for a new generation of artists and writers. World War II creates a patriotic fervor for star-spangled adventurers to represent the American spirit at war and on the home front, but in the 1950s, superheroes are caught in the fire of government scrutiny and regulation. When the thrilling “Adventures of Superman” is broadcast on the new medium of television, America’s first and greatest superhero leads the entire comic book industry to renewed strength.
“Great Power, Great Responsibility” (1959-1977) – October 15, 2013, 9:00 p.m. ET
A new breed of superhero emerges in the 1960s, inspired by the age of atomic energy and space travel and, in turn, inspiring artists of the time. The pop art movement draws heavily on comic books, with superhero images appearing in the works of Andy Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein. Civil rights in America and other social issues make their way onto the page as black superheroes emerge with powerhouses such as the Black Panther and Luke Cage. The pages of “Green Lantern/Green Arrow” address social issues in their relevant storylines, and comic books are forced to confront the reality of an increasingly complex world.
“A Hero Can Be Anyone” (1978-Present) – October 22, 2013, 9:00 p.m. ET
This episode captures the enthusiasm for superheroes as they are embraced in all forms of media and by all demographics, beginning with the historic “Superman” movie featuring Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel. In 1986, Batman is overhauled as The Dark Knight to reflect the nocturnal underside of his character, and Watchmen brings new sophistication to comic book narratives, illuminating a violent and politicized world. In the burgeoning new millennium, superheroes have taken over popular culture with feature films, television shows and video games complementing a new generation of web-based comics that bring superhero adventures to every corner of the world.
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The first hour did not air last week. There are 2 hours starting at 8 EST tonight.
http://laughingsquid.com/superheroes-a-never-ending-battle-pbs-documentary-examines-the-history-of-the-comic-book-industry/
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Jim Steranko, IMHO.
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I'm going to add Gary Kwapisz also. Amazing detail in his designs and very realistic.