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Title: Best way to take HGH
Post by: a_ahmed on June 28, 2013, 10:21:57 AM
What is the best protocol?

Preworkout? Post workout? First thing morning? Before sleep?

Or split dose preworkout and some postworkout?

I understand in sleep is when our own natural levels get released, so why take pre bed?

I just want to get some opinions and facts on this
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: latiuss on June 28, 2013, 12:33:35 PM
I do first thing am and post. Ive started doing intramusclur instead on sub q as people think you get growth where you inject hence growth gut so i do calfs and hams. I dont have any fat on my stomach to inject into aswell its bad enough doing hcg fuck doing hgh twice aday there,but in my legs its easy im using hyges. 4iu aday so nothing major but i love growth...so much better than steroids imo i fell soo unhealthy on gear
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on June 29, 2013, 01:15:29 AM
Correct a_ahmed! When you sleep and get into a rem sleep you secrete natural growth hormone,so it is stupid to take it before bed.Best way is def on a empty stomach early in the morning. The best way it to wake up a hour or two before you usually wake up and do a shot and then go back to bed for a hour or two and then get up and eat your breakfast. Honestly the best way is to shoot it old school right in the gut,However more and more people have these theories that they get leaner and fuller if they inject in the area they are training, so alot of guys shoot HGH in in alot of diffrent muscles,legs,arms, delts, but the fact is the gutt is the best place to inject HGH. Most amateurs and pros shoot HGH all day in diffrent muscles.
If you have alot of HGH to play around with I guess you can test out these new theories but the best way is the old school way right in the gutt on a empty stomach.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Overload on July 05, 2013, 10:03:38 AM
If you are taking 5iu or less, shoot it first thing in the morning on days you don't lift weights.  On the days you lift weights, shoot it post workout.  Always on an empty stomach.

If you are taking more than 5iu, split it between morning and evening.  Always shoot one of the doses post workout on the days you lift weights. 

There is no localized growth with GH from what i have seen, it just has a different spike when injected IM, IV or SQ.  I prefer to do all my shots IM.

Good luck!


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Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: a_ahmed on July 05, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
Yeah im not exceeding 5iu.. in fact keeping it at 2iu on non lift days morning.. sometimes 3iu if running treadmill. I took 1iu preworkout/morning and 2iu post workout.

I drink pre and during a protein/carb shake though.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: a_ahmed on July 08, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
Starting fasting tomorrow.

Would you recommend I take it upon waking while fasting instead? Or before breaking fast? Or after working out?
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Overload on July 08, 2013, 03:23:20 PM
Starting fasting tomorrow.

Would you recommend I take it upon waking while fasting instead? Or before breaking fast? Or after working out?

Always after working out on days you lift.  First thing in the morning on days you don't lift.

Good luck!


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Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 08, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Always after working out on days you lift.  First thing in the morning on days you don't lift.

Good luck!


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why not shoot in the morning a hour before breakfast, or if your fasting just when you wake up, and after the workout shoot some more as well?
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: POB on July 08, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
If you are taking 5iu or less, shoot it first thing in the morning on days you don't lift weights.  On the days you lift weights, shoot it post workout.  Always on an empty stomach.

If you are taking more than 5iu, split it between morning and evening.  Always shoot one of the doses post workout on the days you lift weights. 

There is no localized growth with GH from what i have seen, it just has a different spike when injected IM, IV or SQ.  I prefer to do all my shots IM.

Good luck!


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2 questions.

Why after you lift on training days? And is a meal or shake consumed with it,if so what is the carb/protein ratio?

Thank you
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 08, 2013, 09:33:13 PM
Honestly guys, all this stuff is bro science at best.

The most important thing about GH is quality & the 2nd is quantity. After that, it really doesn't matter that much.

I've tried pinning 2x, 3x, 5x a day. On an empty stomach, 30 mins before meals, with insulin, without insulin, in the middle of the night, IM, sub Q etc & IT DOESN'T MATTER.

All that matters is getting a good quality GH, using as much as you can afford & taking it about 3-4 times a day. it doesn't matter when, on a full or empty stomach as long as you space it out evenly through out the day.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Psychopath on July 08, 2013, 09:34:55 PM
If you want to get super technical with lots of scientific references, the i suggest you visit

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Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 09, 2013, 05:11:29 AM
Honestly guys, all this stuff is bro science at best.

The most important thing about GH is quality & the 2nd is quantity. After that, it really doesn't matter that much.

I've tried pinning 2x, 3x, 5x a day. On an empty stomach, 30 mins before meals, with insulin, without insulin, in the middle of the night, IM, sub Q etc & IT DOESN'T MATTER.

All that matters is getting a good quality GH, using as much as you can afford & taking it about 3-4 times a day. it doesn't matter when, on a full or empty stomach as long as you space it out evenly through out the day.

I do agree that the quality of HGH is the key but I disagree about it all being bro-science. there are def times when HGH is more effective but that is mainly in the morning a hour before breakfast. as far as after training and all that jazz that sounds more like bro-science to me. If you were to shoot HGH before bed you are going to fuck up the natural HGH your body produces when you are in rem sleep especially for these young guys who still have pretty good HGH production going on when they are in rem sleep.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Overload on July 09, 2013, 07:09:13 AM
Honestly guys, all this stuff is bro science at best.

The most important thing about GH is quality & the 2nd is quantity. After that, it really doesn't matter that much.

I've tried pinning 2x, 3x, 5x a day. On an empty stomach, 30 mins before meals, with insulin, without insulin, in the middle of the night, IM, sub Q etc & IT DOESN'T MATTER.

All that matters is getting a good quality GH, using as much as you can afford & taking it about 3-4 times a day. it doesn't matter when, on a full or empty stomach as long as you space it out evenly through out the day.

I agree with this for sure.  The only time i've noticed a difference was when i upped the dosage.

All in all, just make sure you inject your GH with some sort of frequency and you will be fine.

My layout is a way to keep it simple with a small amount of science behind it.  To be honest it doesn't really matter.  My Endo even says it doesn't matter, but he thinks before bed is the best.


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Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 09, 2013, 11:28:55 AM
I agree with this for sure.  The only time i've noticed a difference was when i upped the dosage.

All in all, just make sure you inject your GH with some sort of frequency and you will be fine.

My layout is a way to keep it simple with a small amount of science behind it.  To be honest it doesn't really matter.  My Endo even says it doesn't matter, but he thinks before bed is the best.


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Bro, can you go more in depth about why you think IM is > SubQ? Thanks
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 09, 2013, 01:42:02 PM
Bro, can you go more in depth about why you think IM is > SubQ? Thanks



I'd like to hear more about that as well. That just seems like one of those new age techniques todays guys are trying. I hear it does work but not nearly as well as doing it the old school way subQ. IM is more of a new school approach it seems guys think they can get the growth and leaner muscle to whatever body part they want to get leaner and bigger, for examply there are guys who inject HGH -IM in their arms because they believe it will make their arms leaner and get better results in the arms.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 09, 2013, 01:58:18 PM

It like to hear more about that as well. That just seems like one of those new age techniques todays guys are trying. I hear it does work but not nearly as well as doing it the old school way subQ. IM is more of a new school approach it seems guys think they can get the growth and leaner muscle to whatever body part they want to get leaner and bigger, for examply there are guys who inject HGH -IM in their arms because they believe it will make their arms leaner and get better results in the arms.

That philosophy really doesn't get me too excited. The whole site injection thing doesn't really turn me on, especially since I'm a 2 IU kinda guy. I'm not basting 20 units a day.

Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 09, 2013, 02:42:49 PM
That philosophy really doesn't get me too excited. The whole site injection thing doesn't really turn me on, especially since I'm a 2 IU kinda guy. I'm not basting 20 units a day.



Me either. I only have been using 4-IU's for the last 2 years and it all gets shot in the gutt subq.I don't know why guys started shooting HGH IM and some even do IV shots of HGH. Not sure the benefits of shooting it IV style Hitting the vein with HGH is another new school method but is also very dangerous if you do not have high grade HGH. Their was a guy who was shot that bunk kigtropin IV style and he pm'ed me and told me he got really sick, his body went into hypertension very quickly and he had a super high heart rate. I told him to go to the ER not sure if he ever did go in. he said it totally made him very ill. From what I gathered guys who shoot HGH the proper way noticed the HGH made their gutt area leaner and got rid of that distended gutt look when they injected HGH in the gutt so they figured it would work the same if injected in other muscle groups-IM. that is just bro-science-IMO. But guys some guys say it works and they get better pumps in the area they inject the HGH -IM style.

I have site-injeted Test prop mixed with a little EQ in the biceps but never have tried injecting HGH in a muscle. I don't know how long bodybuilders have been doing IV style HGH shots or IM HGH shots I just have heard about it the last 2 years. Now this is not bro science when HGH gets injected in the gutt the HGH gets released slower and works better, but hell guys in this sport will try anything to get an edge. There are some crazy ass bodybuilders out there!
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 09, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
Having done both, IM seems to give a more instant surge than SubQ, which is a more even release.

I can't see why having a huge surge via IM would benefit anyone if you're already taking GH several times a day like you should be. Plus, I'd rather have GH in my system all day long than short mega bursts.

Let's put it this way, if edos recommend SubQ, if the GH manufacturers recommend SubQ & if BBS have been doing SubQ for ages, why is it suddenly better to do it IM?

1. Get quality GH
2. Take as much as you can
3. Take it 3-4 times a day.
Done!!!!

Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 09, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
Having done both, IM seems to give a more instant surge than SubQ, which is a more even release.

I can't see why having a huge surge via IM would benefit anyone if you're already taking GH several times a day like you should be. Plus, I'd rather have GH in my system all day long than short mega bursts.

Let's put it this way, if edos recommend SubQ, if the GH manufacturers recommend SubQ & if BBS have been doing SubQ for ages, why is it suddenly better to do it IM?

1. Get quality GH
2. Take as much as you can
3. Take it 3-4 times a day.
Done!!!!



I like this method,  makes the most sense to me. Great post.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 09, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
Having done both, IM seems to give a more instant surge than SubQ, which is a more even release.

I can't see why having a huge surge via IM would benefit anyone if you're already taking GH several times a day like you should be. Plus, I'd rather have GH in my system all day long than short mega bursts.

Let's put it this way, if edos recommend SubQ, if the GH manufacturers recommend SubQ & if BBS have been doing SubQ for ages, why is it suddenly better to do it IM?

1. Get quality GH
2. Take as much as you can
3. Take it 3-4 times a day.
Done!!!!




makes sense to me as well. no bro science involved folow the directions you get with your HGH prescription there is a reason the pharmaceutical companys recommend  shooting HGH in the gut SubQ. It gets in the fatty tissues and lasts longer. Although in this sport guys will experiment doing HGH all diffrent ways.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 09, 2013, 08:39:37 PM
Qwert: you need to post more bro  8)
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 09, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
Qwert: you need to post more bro  8)

Believe it or not, I've been a member of GB since 2004. I just bookmarked the Gossip page & went there daily, & although it's a funny place, I didn't think there was much room for me to post there.

Vince Goodrum is a laughable boob, but if I post in his thread & get involved with that nonsense, I'm a bigger bigger boob.

Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 10, 2013, 01:09:54 AM
Believe it or not, I've been a member of GB since 2004. I just bookmarked the Gossip page & went there daily, & although it's a funny place, I didn't think there was much room for me to post there.

Vince Goodrum is a laughable boob, but if I post in his thread & get involved with that nonsense, I'm a bigger bigger boob.



don't let that bother you. I used to fuck with goodrum all the time! I cannot count the days I would find a goodrum thread that made me laugh for hours! I love when he competes. His mountanier performance was epic. Then the way he talks about his supplements business like he is on the bodybuilding.com level. The guy sells bee pollen. Vince really makes this forum a great place. If you have had a hard day and need a laugh just go find the most recent goodrum thread and I gaurantee it will bring a smile to your face. I don't like putting people down but if you are delusional and believe all your bullshit you speak about fuck it. Goodrum always talks real bad about derek anthony but derek actually posted proof goodrum has bought live webcam shows from derek. Vince has some serious deluisons and issues. A decent guy but a funny delusional man as well. The best was when Vince and billyguns went toe to toe in a posedown. It was like a dream come true to us goodrum/billygunz fans.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 02:19:39 AM
Honestly guys, all this stuff is bro science at best.

The most important thing about GH is quality & the 2nd is quantity. After that, it really doesn't matter that much.

I've tried pinning 2x, 3x, 5x a day. On an empty stomach, 30 mins before meals, with insulin, without insulin, in the middle of the night, IM, sub Q etc & IT DOESN'T MATTER.

All that matters is getting a good quality GH, using as much as you can afford & taking it about 3-4 times a day. it doesn't matter when, on a full or empty stomach as long as you space it out evenly through out the day.
I disagree. At night you can produce the equivilent to 1 iu while you sleep naturally, why mess that up if you are on low amounts, he wants to take 2 per day and if he does it at night say good bye to his night gh produced by his own body, of course do not take it at night if you are only using 2-3 iu per day. If you are doing 15 then who cares but not 2-3
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 02:25:24 AM
I like this method,  makes the most sense to me. Great post.

Ya but the OP is doing 2-3 iu per day so why would anyone recommend 3-4 times a day, this is outrageous. Once a day in the morning is best in the OPs case.

Also WW is right SubQ peaks at 3 and half hours. Which means if you go take a serum test it would read the largest quantities at the 3 and half hour mark. If you do it IM you may peak a little sooner at 2 and half hours to 3 hours..
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 10, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
I disagree. At night you can produce the equivilent to 1 iu while you sleep naturally, why mess that up if you are on low amounts, he wants to take 2 per day and if he does it at night say good bye to his night gh produced by his own body, of course do not take it at night if you are only using 2-3 iu per day. If you are doing 15 then who cares but not 2-3

I agree, if you're doing 2iu a day, I wouldn't do it right before bed, however, having done 2iu cycles, all I really got out of them was edema & VERY mild fat loss. So mild that I would've gotten then same effects on a $10 bottle of eph hcl.

IMHO, if you're going to do GH for anything but HRT & longevity, save up & take a minimum of 5iu a day for at least 6 months. With GH, the more the merrier.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Psychopath on July 10, 2013, 09:16:59 AM
For those who used GH, how much weight loss can be expected with doses ranging from 6-10ius/day? Is it significant?
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 10, 2013, 09:32:46 AM
For those who used GH, how much weight loss can be expected with doses ranging from 6-10ius/day? Is it significant?

I honestly think fat loss from GH is overrated. You'll get way more fat loss from ECA or T3 for less money & a faster time line.

It's a nice added bonus of taking GH, but if you're taking it for pure fat loss, I can't justify spending $1000s for a few lbs of fat. Spend $100 on eph hcl & you'll do way better.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 09:43:08 AM
I honestly think fat loss from GH is overrated. You'll get way more fat loss from ECA or T3 for less money & a faster time line.

It's a nice added bonus of taking GH, but if you're taking it for pure fat loss, I can't justify spending $1000s for a few lbs of fat. Spend $100 on eph hcl & you'll do way better.
I agree with this all the way, gh does very little in comparison to an actual fat burner like ECA.

BTW ECA is king of all fat burners
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 09:44:42 AM
I agree, if you're doing 2iu a day, I wouldn't do it right before bed, however, having done 2iu cycles, all I really got out of them was edema & VERY mild fat loss. So mild that I would've gotten then same effects on a $10 bottle of eph hcl.

IMHO, if you're going to do GH for anything but HRT & longevity, save up & take a minimum of 5iu a day for at least 6 months. With GH, the more the merrier.
`I know what you mean but you can still get some well being off of 2 iu per day.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 10, 2013, 10:04:11 AM
`I know what you mean but you can still get some well being off of 2 iu per day.

I agree. My HRT is 200 Test a week & 2iu GH a day. I alternate back & forth between HRT & blasts. 2iu definitely helps you look & feel better, especially when you're older.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: flinstones1 on July 10, 2013, 10:59:00 AM
I honestly think fat loss from GH is overrated. You'll get way more fat loss from ECA or T3 for less money & a faster time line.

It's a nice added bonus of taking GH, but if you're taking it for pure fat loss, I can't justify spending $1000s for a few lbs of fat. Spend $100 on eph hcl & you'll do way better.

oh brother
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: flinstones1 on July 10, 2013, 11:01:06 AM
1. all pharm grade HGH is not created equal
2. generics dont work, never worked, and are a waste of cash
3 the best time to take hgh is preworkout, as igf levels begin to rise....when you train, your forcing the muscle to grow on the spot
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
1. all pharm grade HGH is not created equal
2. generics dont work, never worked, and are a waste of cash
3 the best time to take hgh is preworkout, as igf levels begin to rise....when you train, your forcing the muscle to grow on the spot
WTF are you talking about?, I have a serum test right here that I took that shows my gh levels up 1500 %, that's right, not a typo, fifteen-hundred % of my normal levels. That is 15 times more then my normal level on generic (hyges) blood work does not lie.  I had to cut back cause I could not even train. It was too painful, pumps on top of pumps, muscle bursting from the skin. Like fuck generics don't work. lmao.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 10, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
1. all pharm grade HGH is not created equal
2. generics dont work, never worked, and are a waste of cash
3 the best time to take hgh is preworkout, as igf levels begin to rise....when you train, your forcing the muscle to grow on the spot

This is the same brain washed GH15 BS that people mimic on the boards.

If someone says all generics don't work, they're just mimicking GH15 with no real world knowledge or they have an agenda, plain & simple.

Someone must be putting pharma GH in my novo vials, as my IGF levels sky rocket after shots according to my blood work, about the same as when I was using Serno years ago at 5x the price.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 11:31:35 AM
This is the same brain washed GH15 BS that people mimic on the boards.

If someone says all generics don't work, they're just mimicking GH15 with no real world knowledge or they have an agenda, plain & simple.

Someone must be putting pharma GH in my novo vials, as my IGF levels sky rocket after shots according to my blood work, about the same as when I was using Serno years ago at 5x the price.
I thought he was serious but now I am thinking he is just mocking gh15, is lmao  ;D
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 10, 2013, 11:40:52 AM
I thought he was serious but now I am thinking he is just mocking gh15, is lmao  ;D

In that case, he deserves an oscar.   ;)
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 10, 2013, 11:55:54 AM
I thought he was serious but now I am thinking he is just mocking gh15, is lmao  ;D

No flinstones is a huge Gh15 follower. A man who is under the Gh15 spell.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 10, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
as far as the HGH like I said in my earlier post the best way to take HGH is in the morning right when you wake up especially for guys who just use 2-4 IU's a day. shoot your HGH right when you get up and if you can go back to bed for an hour do it.  then get up and eat your breakfast. Always shoot your HGH right when you wake up on a empty stomach and wait an hour before you eat.

As far as generics go you really have to trust your source as alot of generics are not that great. especially Bule tops those are hit and miss. hygetropin is a good generic brand but you have to know your source has the real deal because there is bunk hygetropin going around. Riptropin also works better then blue-tops anyway.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 12:03:08 PM
No flinstones is a huge Gh15 follower. A man who is under the Gh15 spell.
Ya but he has been posting mocking comments all over the place, I think he turned and now hates him.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 12:04:50 PM
as far as the HGH like I said in my earlier post the best way to take HGH is in the morning right when you wake up especially for guys who just use 2-4 IU's a day. shoot your HGH right when you get up and if you can go back to bed for an hour do it.  then get up and eat your breakfast. Always shoot your HGH right when you wake up on a empty stomach and wait an hour before you eat.

As far as generics go you really have to trust your source as alot of generics are not that great. especially Bule tops those are hit and miss. hygetropin is a good generic brand but you have to know your source has the real deal because there is bunk hygetropin going around. Riptropin also works better then blue-tops anyway.
I have not heard of bunk hyges in over a year
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: flinstones1 on July 10, 2013, 12:24:10 PM
WTF are you talking about?, I have a serum test right here that I took that shows my gh levels up 1500 %, that's right, not a typo, fifteen-hundred % of my normal levels. That is 15 times more then my normal level on generic (hyges) blood work does not lie.  I had to cut back cause I could not even train. It was too painful, pumps on top of pumps, muscle bursting from the skin. Like fuck generics don't work. lmao.

Dont argue with me onetimehard. If you guys knew the little effort i put into training and lifting....

come to think of it- with the exception of shizzo, there is nobody who puts less effort into their body (training and diet wise) than me, Im big and lean for a gym rat no questions asked.

lastly you have never used pharm grade HGH and have even told me you didn't, doesnt change the fact that I respect you....but until you do try pharm grade HGH how can I possibly have this conversation with you?

To be fair maybe saying generics dont work is a little extreme, and I have heard people say that do use pharm grade HGH, that they HAVE made progress on generics. But it will never be anything remotely close to pharm grade...it just wont.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: flinstones1 on July 10, 2013, 12:36:49 PM
This is the same brain washed GH15 BS that people mimic on the boards.

If someone says all generics don't work, they're just mimicking GH15 with no real world knowledge or they have an agenda, plain & simple.

Someone must be putting pharma GH in my novo vials, as my IGF levels sky rocket after shots according to my blood work, about the same as when I was using Serno years ago at 5x the price.

do you know that years ago,  on outlawmuscle i was one of the first 5 people to EVER try novo's?

It leaned me out a bit, but its nothing like pharm grade HGH bro. How are you going to argue with someone who has used both? I was using  10iu of novotropin ED, and they were a hell of alot more potent than then they are now.

lastly this has nothing to do with gh15 - gh15 is not a fan of humatrope and feels it is an outdated product and that serostim is superior. I have used serostim many times, And I have questioned him about that numerous times on gh15 's very own sight because if i had the choice i would use humatrope......as you can see.  Im  a friend of gh 15, always but Im no follower either.

I am flinstones1!!
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: flinstones1 on July 10, 2013, 12:44:46 PM
I thought he was serious but now I am thinking he is just mocking gh15, is lmao  ;D

you know what gh15  needs to choose his words more carefully when he pisses people off....you cant go around telling guys makig minimum wage breaking the bank on HGH that it's "worthless junk" compared to kigtropin and not expect them to get pissed off.

when he told everyone that  humatrope was an "outdated, garbage"  product  that was about the last straw for me. I was banned for being racist by a corrupt moderator by the name of neil so this is a totally different story when gh15 said that about humatrope  it really pissed me off, because I know kevin levrone and the bodybuilders of the 90's built there bodies on that product and chris cormier even said so that humatrope from lily was the big thing in the 90's.


Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: local hero on July 10, 2013, 01:00:07 PM
ive used pharma and generic and the difference isnt that great, ive used small doses of generic and still had good results
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 10, 2013, 01:14:32 PM
you know what gh15  needs to choose his words more carefully when he pisses people off....you cant go around telling guys makig minimum wage breaking the bank on HGH that it's "worthless junk" compared to kigtropin and not expect them to get pissed off.

when he told everyone that  humatrope was an "outdated, garbage"  product  that was about the last straw for me. I was banned for being racist by a corrupt moderator by the name of neil so this is a totally different story when gh15 said that about humatrope  it really pissed me off, because I know kevin levrone and the bodybuilders of the 90's built there bodies on that product and chris cormier even said so that humatrope from lily was the big thing in the 90's.




IMO_ legit Eli Lilly Humatrope is straight FIRE! I have never had better HGH then humatrope. Unless they have gotten weaker raw material I don't know why anybody would talk bad about Humatrope,best HGH I have used. It has been years since I used humatrope but that is because I cannot find it anymore and If I do find it it is outrageously priced. If you have the cash you acnnot go wrong at least the humatrope I got in 2005 was straight fire!Never had anything better. Then having Gh15 telling me bunk kigtropin was better then Humatrope made me want to punch him through my monitor. Gh15 always thinks he is right! maybe he got bunk humatrope because real Humatrope is a TREAT!
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: qwert on July 10, 2013, 01:51:28 PM
I'm not going to try to change anyone's mind about GH, but if anyone thinks 1 kit of Pharma GH is more superior to 4-5 kits of Novos, then they're crazy. Yes, Pharma GH is better, but NO, it's not 500% better.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Psychopath on July 10, 2013, 01:54:59 PM
Can you guys talk about how to effectively use GH. I've been reading that Slin is needed to fully take advantage of gh.

I've got two protocols in mind.

Protocol #1

4ius GH + 10-15ius slin AM/PM

Protocol #2

8ius GH + 10-15ius slin PWO

4ius GH Am/Pm on non workout days.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 10, 2013, 02:15:12 PM
I'm not going to try to change anyone's mind about GH, but if anyone thinks 1 kit of Pharma GH is more superior to 4-5 kits of Novos, then they're crazy. Yes, Pharma GH is better, but NO, it's not 500% better.
It is a 2 to 1 ratio max and I put my life on it with exception of Lilly's that ww said were straight fire, everyone has said that they were king of kings of all gh and it is true all the greats from the 90's used this including Yates.

But the price is what matters to most and paying 5 times (if not more) the amount for something that only brings in a 2 to 1 ratio is not justified unless you make 200k per year
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 10, 2013, 11:51:08 PM
Can you guys talk about how to effectively use GH. I've been reading that Slin is needed to fully take advantage of gh.

I've got two protocols in mind.

Protocol #1

4ius GH + 10-15ius slin AM/PM

Protocol #2

8ius GH + 10-15ius slin PWO

4ius GH Am/Pm on non workout days.

Yes alot of people say you are just wasting you HGH without using insulin and getting that synergistic effect. I don't think HGH is totally worthless without insulin but pof course everfy little edge helps. I have used HGH without slin for awhile now and the HGH still works. I think you do get better pumps and whatever muscle groups you train blow up a bit bigger when you stack HGH with insulin but to say HGH is worthless without insulin is not correct. Insulin is more dangerous then people think even if you have the diet and sugar intake down.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 11, 2013, 11:53:28 AM
Can you guys talk about how to effectively use GH. I've been reading that Slin is needed to fully take advantage of gh.

I've got two protocols in mind.

Protocol #1

4ius GH + 10-15ius slin AM/PM

Protocol #2

8ius GH + 10-15ius slin PWO

4ius GH Am/Pm on non workout days.
The anti aging and fat burning properties of gh make no difference on slin at all, however the muscle building properties with the combination of the 2 works wonders.

I would go with protocol 2 but keep in mind that the pump floods the muscle with blood and all the nutrient carried into the blood drop into the muscle. So post workout does not mean drive home 30 minutes later. No, post workout means within 5-10 minute while you still are pumped.

Bring in simple sugars to prolong the pump and you need sugar anyway as when you take the slin, all the nutrients in the blood get thrown into your cells, hence your blood sugar level drops drastically.

Note. I hate when people put the term IU with slin and IU with gh in the same line. Gives me the creeps because what is 4 IU on the slin pin in regards to gh is 40 IU of slin. So beginners fuck themselves up because they do not realize this and take 10 times the amount of slin
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Overload on July 11, 2013, 01:56:28 PM
Note. I hate when people put the term IU with slin and IU with gh in the same line. Gives me the creeps because what is 4 IU on the slin pin in regards to gh is 40 IU of slin. So beginners fuck themselves up because they do not realize this and take 10 times the amount of slin

I know a ton of guys who made this mistake their first run with Slin.

It can cause some serious issues.

A good friend of mine was starting with 10iu of Slin and called me a few years ago.  He asked me if most people used 3cc hypo barrels with 29g needles to shoot Slin so they could get more than 10iu in one shot.  At first i was lost, but then i caught on that he had been using GH and told him every 10 IU on the Slin pin is actually 1 IU of GH, but 10 IU on a Slin pin is really 10 IU of Slin.  He felt really stupid, but at least he asked the question before he fucked up.


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Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: BodyMachine on July 11, 2013, 02:01:28 PM
Wait now I'm getting confused. On a 3/10 slin pin, it goes to 30. I assume 10 is 10iu of slin, correct?
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 11, 2013, 02:02:51 PM
Wait now I'm getting confused. On a 3/10 slin pin, it goes to 30. I assume 10 is 10iu of slin, correct?

For Slin, each tick mark on a pin is 1 IU. So there's 100 tick marks, meaning you could fill a Slin pin to the top of 100IU's (and die)
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Psychopath on July 11, 2013, 02:11:49 PM
I'm not that stupid, thankfully.

Whenever i see people post questions about reconstitution measurements, and similar questions, i just shake my head.

There's plenty of dumb fucks out there, not my problem.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Overload on July 11, 2013, 02:28:24 PM
Wait now I'm getting confused. On a 3/10 slin pin, it goes to 30. I assume 10 is 10iu of slin, correct?

Yes.

I typed my story a bit funny, my friend was confused because he had been using GH and 1 IU of GH is measured at 10 IU on the Slin pin.


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Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: OTHstrong on July 11, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Wait now I'm getting confused. On a 3/10 slin pin, it goes to 30. I assume 10 is 10iu of slin, correct?
Yes overload said it correctly, now once again


1 slin pin (needle) has 1 cc or 1ml

1cc =100 units

100 units = 10iu of gh or 100iu of slin

so basically if you feel up the slin pin with insulin to what you would fill up 4 IU`s of gh, it would be 40iu`s of slin. Slin is ten times more units per volume.
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 11, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
Yes overload said it correctly, now once again


1 slin pin (needle) has 1 cc or 1ml

1cc =100 units

100 units = 10iu of gh or 100iu of slin

so basically if you feel up the slin pin with insulin to what you would fill up 4 IU`s of gh, it would be 40iu`s of slin. Slin is ten times more units per volume.

This is why you have my vote to mod the steroid board  8) (serious)
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: Mega Man on July 11, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Are there still good generic hgh brands left? I cant find that ppeppharm any more?
Title: Re: Best way to take HGH
Post by: whitewidow on July 11, 2013, 09:31:28 PM
Are there still good generic hgh brands left? I cant find that ppeppharm any more?

Yes there is still just as good of HGH on the market as peppharm. You just have to do your research and find yourself a new source. I do belive PP is still out there but they took a long break and you need to get the new email wich is very hard if you have not kept in touch with the reps.