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Title: why so many iconic superstars and songwriters subcumb to alcholism and adiction?
Post by: Rami on August 30, 2013, 06:26:38 AM



while seemingly having it all, enormous success and recognition, extreme talent, handsome and 6'5 tall, Tommy drank himself to death. sad story

seems as if most successful people lack the ability to just sit back and just enjoy the fruits of their labor and where they are in life.

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Post by: Big N on August 30, 2013, 06:36:21 AM
Emptiness from inside, weak minded, greed, or abusive past.
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Post by: Rami on August 30, 2013, 06:41:42 AM
Emptiness from inside, weak minded, greed, or abusive past.


Arnold comes to mind who did all the right thing and still does, despite having a hard upbringing,

but a legend always lives on though
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Post by: Big N on August 30, 2013, 06:47:40 AM
The mind is a very powerful tool. A lot of people underestimate it.
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Post by: Marty Champions on August 30, 2013, 06:49:36 AM
2 hours of quality buzz followed by 6-8 hours wishing you hadnt drank
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Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 30, 2013, 07:18:58 AM
Art comes from pain

Addiction comes from pain
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Post by: polychronopolous on August 30, 2013, 07:26:01 AM
Singer Keith Whitley literally died from drinking too much in one sitting. When you hear "so and so died from alcohol" you generally think of a decades long battle but the concept of drinking oneself to death in an evening to me is something I have a hard time grasping.
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Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 30, 2013, 07:28:20 AM
Singer Keith Whitley literally died from drinking too much in one sitting. When you hear "so and so died from alcohol" you generally think of a decades long battle but the concept of drinking oneself to death in an evening to me is something I have a hard time grasping.

Amy winehouse's, jani layne, Jeff Buckley. bAC gets into the .3s and .4s and it's night night time
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Post by: Marty Champions on August 30, 2013, 07:30:13 AM
i remember getting a killer buzz drinking a king kobra 40 oz while one my riding lawnmower, i couldve kept drinking more glad i didnt i probably wouldve died. i was buzzed for a good 2 hours felt awesome then for the next 8 hours life was empty and horrible
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Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 30, 2013, 07:32:31 AM
i remember getting a killer buzz drinking a king kobra 40 oz while one my riding lawnmower, i couldve kept drinking more glad i didnt i probably wouldve died. i was buzzed for a good 2 hours felt awesome then for the next 8 hours life was empty and horrible

You'd have to pound a dozen or so 40s to even be close to a lethal number.
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Post by: G_Thang on August 30, 2013, 07:38:02 AM
(http://www.televicious.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/lohan24n-1-web.jpg)

i'm guessing her attorney looks tired of the shit, but charlie sheen pays the legal bills on time.   ;D
 
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Post by: Hulkotron on August 30, 2013, 07:39:09 AM
while seemingly having it all, enormous success and recognition, extreme talent, handsome and 6'5 tall, Tommy drank himself to death. sad story

seems as if most successful people lack the ability to just sit back and just enjoy the fruits of their labor and where they are in life.

Girls and sons
Title: Re: why so many iconic superstars and songwriters subcumb to alcholism and adict
Post by: Royalty on August 30, 2013, 08:17:03 AM
These "icons" never discovered their purpose in life. Therefore, they were unable to accomplish their purpose in life. (hence they are unsuccessful)

So while the world see's them as: rich, successful, and happy. These "icons" see themselves differently. They see themselves as failures.

That sad fact leads to inner turmoil and then destructive behavior. Drugs & Alcohol are used to dull the pain that they feel. There is a desire within themselves to find something that can distract them from their pain & sadness. Drugs fulfill that need.
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Post by: LanceD on August 30, 2013, 08:22:07 AM
because they are depressed, most of them are alone in the world.  managers and so called friends are there for the money, when its gone so are they.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on August 30, 2013, 08:29:02 AM
Watched Bryant Gumbel's Real Sports the other day and they had Razor Ramone, Jake the Snake Roberts and Diamond Dallas Page about how Scott Hall (Ramon) and Jake Roberts were dying with alcoholism and drug addiction and how Page saved them and took him into his home. Page started using his Yoga program to get clean, lose weight and basically save their lives. It was a cool story.
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Post by: Parker on August 30, 2013, 08:34:31 AM



while seemingly having it all, enormous success and recognition, extreme talent, handsome and 6'5 tall, Tommy drank himself to death. sad story

seems as if most successful people lack the ability to just sit back and just enjoy the fruits of their labor and where they are in life.


probably because they are just like everybody else, but they have more access to it. And do it to an excess...plus other reasons mentioned...emptiness, depression, finding out that just having money and fame just as much trouble, if not more so, than having little money and no fame.
Title: Re: why so many iconic superstars and songwriters subcumb to alcholism and adiction?
Post by: dyslexic on August 30, 2013, 09:07:02 AM
Very interesting article here if you really care about addiction and the "reasoning" behind it ~

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,986282,00.html


My opinion say's that rockstars and celebrities get so  much attention and are treated "Larger than life" or "More human than human" that they actually start believing they are invincible. Add to that the info in the added link and you have the perfect recipe for disaster and destruction of life.
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Post by: Bevo on August 30, 2013, 09:10:11 AM
If wasn't like they were going to write Beethovens 7th...
Title: Re: why so many iconic superstars and songwriters subcumb to alcholism and adiction?
Post by: cswol on August 30, 2013, 10:00:08 AM
It's because they are trying to numb themselves from the voices and demons who own them after you sell your soul for fame and fortune you can't sleep or deal with it, and this is how they try to cope with it all.
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Post by: ukjeff on August 30, 2013, 10:01:28 AM
Because they like being centre of attention and they will do anything to achieve it, even kill themselves.
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Post by: ukjeff on August 30, 2013, 10:06:10 AM
but how comes you havent offed yourself then ;D
There are not enough people watching.   ;D
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Post by: polychronopolous on August 30, 2013, 10:09:52 AM
It's because they are trying to numb themselves from the voices and demons who own them after you sell your soul for fame and fortune you can't sleep or deal with it, and this is how they try to cope with it all.

Alice Walton is the second richest woman in the USA and she is a well known alcoholic.
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Post by: cswol on August 30, 2013, 10:11:03 AM
Uk Jeff you can't even comment your the biggest product of illuminati programming! Europeans are some of the most corrupted brainwashed humans giving homage to their new world order created mentalities!
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Post by: cswol on August 30, 2013, 10:15:39 AM
Alice Walton is also a member of the new world order and illuminati I grew up in northwest Arkansas te home of walmart and Tyson, they are occultist and in zero mountain they use occult devil worshipers satanic members to hold rituals in that areas to keep power there, the ozark mountains are a safe haven for illuminati memebership, when I was 13 I was in a face to face confrontation with satanic worshipers on zero mountain during a satanic ritual, I was born in Rogers Arkansas, I know what the fuck I'm taking about. Alice Walton is an elitist, just like don Tyson was, and where is  Tyson foods home office springdale Arkansas I graduated in 1993 from Springdale high school! This shit ain't no joke!
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Post by: Tapeworm on August 30, 2013, 10:16:07 AM
Because they're eternally angsty.  Fuck 'em.
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Post by: cswol on August 30, 2013, 05:48:42 PM
Zero Mountain

Zero Mountain, Inc., founded in Johnson (Washington County) in 1955, is a company specializing in cold storage. It provides 30 million cubic feet of controlled-temperature storage to companies like Cargill, Simmons, Wal-Mart, Tyson, and ConAgra. It is the only company of its type in Arkansas.

The idea for a sub-zero processing and storage vault in northwest Arkansas took hold when George Bazore Sr., a local businessman, visited a Kansas City cold storage facility in 1951. Bazore, C. A. Stump, Joseph Rumsey, and Price Dickson worked for four years to create the facility. Bazore had attended the University of Arkansas (UA) in Fayetteville (Washington County) and was familiar with the area’s hills and valleys. When he saw an abandoned limestone quarry in Johnson, he began the process of leasing the area. At that time, only three other facilities of this type existed in the United States.

The cold storage facility that Zero Mountain provided turned out to be a much needed operation as northwest Arkansas became the largest poultry processor in the nation. Zero Mountain was designed primarily to serve broiler chicken and turkey producers, with the idea of possibly serving fruit and vegetable growers. Northwest Arkansas poultry producers were able to store their product locally instead of shipping it out of state, with the Arkansas and Missouri Railway providing rail service to the facility.

The below-ground location meant that the refrigerator units did not have to work as hard, but Zero Mountain still had its share of troubles in the beginning. It even failed to make a profit until 1966. The facility struggled with too much moisture. Repeated freezing and thawing weakened the ceiling. One storage room caved in and flooded after it had to be thawed. New technology helped solve these problems. By 1968, the company was shipping frozen products to every state in the United States. George Bazore Jr., who was serving as a vice president and general manager of the company, was soon asked to supervise the business. Bazore Jr. had been a refrigeration instructor at Oklahoma City University.

Zero Mountain was classified as a fallout shelter in the 1960s amid the tension of the Cold War and was the largest of several fallout shelter sites in Washington County. One of the storage caves was filled with batteries, food, water, medical and sanitation equipment, and radiological instruments. Those supplies at Zero Mountain were removed in 1973.

In 1986, Zero Mountain expanded to 275,000 square feet of storage space that could hold up to 44 million pounds of frozen food. As of 2008, the company, now based in Fort Smith (Sebastian County) and headed by president and chief executive officer Mark Briscoe Rumsey, employs approximately 300 people and provides over 30 million cubic feet of controlled-temperature storage in Fort Smith, Johnson, Lowell (Benton County), and Russellville (Pope County). The company has grown to a $50 million industry that can freeze, store, and ship over 2.5 billion pounds of food annually. While the Fayetteville location is the only facility underground, the new technology available makes the other locations just has efficient.
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Post by: King Shizzo on August 30, 2013, 05:53:29 PM
Very interesting article here if you really care about addiction and the "reasoning" behind it ~

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,986282,00.html


My opinion say's that rockstars and celebrities get so  much attention and are treated "Larger than life" or "More human than human" that they actually start believing they are invincible. Add to that the info in the added link and you have the perfect recipe for disaster and destruction of life.  
Exactly how I feel. It's hard being so popular here.
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Post by: cswol on August 30, 2013, 05:54:22 PM
http://first-thoughts.org/on/Alice+Walton/

Im a little disapointed at the lack of conspiricy theories about the power behind the thrown of the largest corporate empire in the world quietly hiding in hills of NW Arkansas. Hugh jackman and Tom cruise paid homage today and will have a private ( suposedly led by Alice Walton) tour of Crystal Bridges art museum tomorw.. and on goes the parade of Walmartians.. ;)
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Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 30, 2013, 06:18:50 PM
Maybe they saw Kai Green get his cock sucked under a towel and were so distraught they had to end it all.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 30, 2013, 06:46:51 PM
i remember getting a killer buzz drinking a king kobra 40 oz while one my riding lawnmower, i couldve kept drinking more glad i didnt i probably wouldve died. i was buzzed for a good 2 hours felt awesome then for the next 8 hours life was empty and horrible

Be careful of those bombers sold cheap that a lot of bums seem to gravitate too...Those are experiment booze the Hierarchy uses to fukc people up. I remember reading about some guy who had 5 bottles of Steele Reserved tested because he just didn't feel right drinking it and supposedly found high levels of lead and arsenic...I went back to find the article after reading it and couldn't find it anywhere. It just disappeared like a fart in the wind...
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Post by: Natural Man on August 30, 2013, 06:48:44 PM
too much free time on their hands so they start thinking and realize the absurdity of existence.
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Post by: O.Z. on August 30, 2013, 06:55:12 PM
too much free time on their hands so they start thinking and realize the absurdity of existence.

I think it is a quite opposite to this.
Living too fast, busy, traveling non stop, 110 % commitment to business, always under pressure from media, fans, etc...
it is very hard to cope with it mentally. Solution for escape? Drugs, Alcohol...
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Post by: ESFitness on August 30, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
perhaps they were fucked from the start.

perhaps they didn't have the emotional maturity to handle a regular "job" and the foresight to build a successful career.... which is why they chose to make money doing the only thing the didn't have to 'qualify' for.... Art.

perhaps it's those same traits, or character defects or complete lack of social or coping skills that leads them to use drugs and booze.
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Post by: polychronopolous on August 30, 2013, 07:37:27 PM
Alice Walton is also a member of the new world order and illuminati I grew up in northwest Arkansas te home of walmart and Tyson, they are occultist and in zero mountain they use occult devil worshipers satanic members to hold rituals in that areas to keep power there, the ozark mountains are a safe haven for illuminati memebership, when I was 13 I was in a face to face confrontation with satanic worshipers on zero mountain during a satanic ritual, I was born in Rogers Arkansas, I know what the fuck I'm taking about. Alice Walton is an elitist, just like don Tyson was, and where is  Tyson foods home office springdale Arkansas I graduated in 1993 from Springdale high school! This shit ain't no joke!

I want to say she's had 2 or 3 DUIs, and another incident where she killed a woman with her car and not a single file was charged. Imagine that. With 20 plus billion in the bank you're pretty much untouchable.
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Post by: titusisback on August 30, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
i remember getting a killer buzz drinking a king kobra 40 oz while one my riding lawnmower, i couldve kept drinking more glad i didnt i probably wouldve died. i was buzzed for a good 2 hours felt awesome then for the next 8 hours life was empty and horrible

You're doing it wrong. First, don't drink when riding your lawnmower. Drink at night - but not too much - and then go to sleep for 6-8 hours and wake up feeling like a million bucks.

Having a whiskey/coke as we speak my friend
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 30, 2013, 07:46:44 PM
They succumb to it imop because of a mental illness that allows them to be so creative in the first place. Many are manics and schizo's...Many of these people worship Edgar Allan Poe not for the work he put out but because of the internal pain they have in...