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Title: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 03, 2013, 04:42:15 PM
Apparently Kerry and the president say no: 

Kerry got into a heated exchange with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who told Kerry that he hasn't talked to anybody who supports the call for military action. "Nobody's calling [my office] in favor of this war," he said.

"We don't believe we are going to war in the classic sense," Kerry said. "The president is not asking you to go to war."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/03/kerry-hagel-testify-on-syria/#ixzz2dsNlO4qH

Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 03, 2013, 05:14:17 PM
Absolutely, it's an act of war.  What would Kerry consider it if another country bombed the U.S? 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 03, 2013, 05:17:41 PM
Absolutely, it's an act of war.  What would Kerry consider it if another country bombed the U.S? 

He wouldn't consider it "war in the classic sense"?  Whatever the heck that means.  Maybe that's like some of Obama's "non-kinetic" bombings. 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 03, 2013, 07:28:12 PM
speechless.............. ..............  :o


Kerry is a bona fide psycho, a liar, and he clearly has no scruples. 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 03, 2013, 07:29:46 PM
I realize the Constitution is outdated, and invalid today, but...

Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 03, 2013, 07:30:46 PM
Rand Paul is a Code Pink Bitch Boy at this point.
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 03, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
When 90% of the country is clearly against an act of aggression, how can Congress possibly support it?  Are they not concerned about re-election?

???
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Emmortal on September 03, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
It's an act of kindness.
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 03, 2013, 07:34:39 PM
When 90% of the country is clearly against an act of aggression, how can Congress possibly support it?  Are they not concerned about re-election?

???
The public is largely stupid for the most part.  How many can even point to Syria on a map?  Congress is doing the right thing so far.  Sometimes it takes a while for the dumb public to understand complex issues if ever.
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2013, 01:53:01 PM
 :-\

act of war
noun
an act of aggression by a country against another with which it is nominally at peace.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/act+of+war

I know it's not that simple, but sure sounds like that's what we're doing.
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
:-\

act of war
noun
an act of aggression by a country against another with which it is nominally at peace.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/act+of+war

I know it's not that simple, but sure sounds like that's what we're doing.
Do you think that is the dictionary they consult routinely for these type of things?  Or is Merriam Webster the ultimate authority on such matters?  Which one is the best in your opinion?
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2013, 02:04:22 PM
Do you think that is the dictionary they consult routinely for these type of things?  Or is Merriam Webster the ultimate authority on such matters?  Which one is the best in your opinion?

I use Webster's, which has the same definition:  "an act of aggression by a country against another with which it is normally at peace."

Who is "they"? 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2013, 02:08:34 PM
I use Webster's, which has the same definition:  "an act of aggression by a country against another with which it is normally at peace."

Who is "they"? 
Yes.  Websters is a good one to use.  If it comes in conflict with Websters, it simply cannot be true.  Websters is better than the bible in this case.
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2013, 02:26:11 PM
Yes.  Websters is a good one to use.  If it comes in conflict with Websters, it simply cannot be true.  Websters is better than the bible in this case.

Who is the "they" you mentioned? 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 06, 2013, 02:27:46 PM
I'm sure TA is scrambling to enlist as we speak
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2013, 03:10:42 PM
Apparently Kerry and the president say no: 

Kerry got into a heated exchange with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who told Kerry that he hasn't talked to anybody who supports the call for military action. "Nobody's calling [my office] in favor of this war," he said.

"We don't believe we are going to war in the classic sense," Kerry said. "The president is not asking you to go to war."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/03/kerry-hagel-testify-on-syria/#ixzz2dsNlO4qH



Was it an act of war when Israel did it a few months ago?

Is Israel currently actively at war with Syria ?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/170350#.UipSIMY3uSo
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
I'm sure TA is scrambling to enlist as we speak

Nah.  He just likes to play dress up like a [Nazi] soldier. 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2013, 03:34:05 PM
I'm sure TA is scrambling to enlist as we speak
Why?  Thats not how our military and social construct works, genius.
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2013, 03:35:44 PM
Nah.  He just likes to play dress up like a [Nazi] soldier. 
Precisely.  Its amusing to me. 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2013, 03:37:35 PM
Precisely.  Its amusing to me. 

Yes.  Hilarious.  ::)
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
Yes.  Hilarious.  ::)
I agree its hilarious.  Mel Brooks made a good Hitler/Nazi and was really funny in my opinion.

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/to-be-or-not-to-be-560.jpg)

Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 06, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
Syria: Samantha Power deployed to convince liberals of case for war
The London Telegraph ^ | September 6, 2013 | Raf Sanchez in Washington
Posted on September 6, 2013 6:53:43 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The White House today deployed Samantha Power, the former human rights activist turned UN ambassador, to try to convince President Barack Obama's liberal base to support strikes against Syria.

Speaking at the Centre for American Progress, a prominent liberal think tank, Ms Power acknowledged "how ambivalent Americans are" at the prospect of another Middle Eastern conflict but argued there is "something different" about chemical warfare which demanded action.

Ms Power worked her way through a list of progressive objections to Mr Obama's plan for intervention, saying: "Those of us who are arguing for the limited use of force must justify our position, accepting responsibility for the risks and potential consequences of action."

She insisted that the US had "exhausted the alternatives" to war, saying that all efforts to engage the Syrians directly and through intermediaries like Iran, Russia and the UN had failed.

Ms Power also addressed concerns that Mr Obama, a president elected partly on his opposition to the Iraq war, was about to follow George W Bush's path of launching military action without the blessing of the UN.

She said Russian support for Bashar al-Assad had "paralyzed" the UN Security Council and blocked even a press statement signaling the global body's disapproval of the civilians death in Damascus on August 21.....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: tonymctones on September 06, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
Was it an act of war when Israel did it a few months ago?

Is Israel currently actively at war with Syria ?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/170350#.UipSIMY3uSo
what the fuck does that have to do with us bombing them?
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2013, 05:22:21 PM
I agree its hilarious.  Mel Brooks made a good Hitler/Nazi and was really funny in my opinion.

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/to-be-or-not-to-be-560.jpg)



Mel Brooks is a genius.  And he's hilarious.  And he's not a racist.

I'd say you're 0-3 in that regard, so you wearing a Nazi uniform isn't funny at all.   :) 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 06, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/06/dear-obama-it-s-time-to-return-your-nobel-peace-prize-here-s-why.html



Bbbboooommmm
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2013, 05:43:33 PM
what the fuck does that have to do with us bombing them?

yet another post you need explained to you ?

sorry Tony, no time for that today
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 06, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
I was amused when Kerry kept using the "war in the classic sense" thing.  Classic political bullshit. 
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2013, 08:07:06 AM
it's an act of war if you live in Syria and bombs land on your head.
It's not an act of war if you're sitting in tampa playing video games delivering surgical strikes on tactical targets for 2 weeks then moving on, taking a vacation, whatever.

Same way someone steps on your toe in the club and you shove him, and he falls into a table of drinks.
ALl you did was shove a rude, intrusive threat.  Dude, on the other hand, has a back full of glass and a busted head from the fall lol.

it's an act of military aggression, and it's an act of war if you send a piece of paper along with it, right?  lol...
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: tonymctones on September 07, 2013, 08:21:18 AM
yet another post you need explained to you ?

sorry Tony, no time for that today
LOL of course not
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Straw Man on September 07, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
LOL of course not

Tony, it was the thread posted below that made me realize that you are just slow and I also realized there is no value to me in wasting my time trying to explain things to you.   I've just completely lost interest in trying to help you get smarter.  It's pointless and there is nothing in it for me.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=488595.0
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Wolfox on September 08, 2013, 10:45:26 PM
Within the context of our current foreign policy and affairs in the middle east, what would a few extra bombs be?

Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2013, 10:51:16 AM
I was amused when Kerry kept using the "war in the classic sense" thing.  Classic political bullshit. 

Agree.
Title: Re: Is bombing Syria an act of war?
Post by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2013, 10:52:51 AM
It's not too late.  I hope the president doesn't make this mistake.  Russia might take an active part in hostilities. 

"The use of force against a sovereign nation is only possible as self-defense — and Syria hasn't attacked the United States — and on approval of the U.N. Security Council," Putin said. "Those who do otherwise place themselves outside the law."

Meanwhile, the Kremlin said Russia was boosting its naval presence in the Mediterranean Sea, moving in warships into the area and stoking fears about a larger international conflict if the United States orders airstrikes.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/07/obama-faces-uphill-battle-on-support-for-syria-strike/#ixzz2eQ1KjI6h