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Title: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Boost on September 08, 2013, 07:07:47 AM
Just stumbled across a seminar from Dorian, Mr Olympia Shawn ray and Kevin Levrone that took place in the UK earlier this year.

Dorian States that he kept records of all his food choices, even offseason as a tool to tweak his performance and refine his physique.

6500 cals offseason was the norm at his peak bodyweight and never went below 4000 cals cutting for the Mr Olmpia contest.

1:40

Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: _aj_ on September 08, 2013, 07:12:15 AM
I don't think I could eat 4k if I used a funnel.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: noway55 on September 08, 2013, 08:06:06 AM
Lol I could eat that much but I would turn obese in a few months. Then again I'm also not supporting enough muscle as he was and I'm not on the drugs he was. Hell I eat less when I'm trying to gain then he does pre-contest if he really was eating that much.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: dyslexic on September 08, 2013, 08:10:17 AM
Funny, that's not what he say's in his Blood and Guts vid ~



Oh well, Mark Phelps "supposedly" ate 13,000 calories a day.



It's all a joke.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: rooseveltdunn on September 08, 2013, 08:11:55 AM
Funny, that's not what he say's in his Blood and Guts vid ~



Oh well, Mark Phelps "supposedly" ate 13,000 calories a day.



It's all a joke.

Swimming is the most calorie consuming sport out there, spend a whole day swimming, you will be surprised how much you will eat after.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 08, 2013, 08:22:08 AM
James Stevens has never ate over 3000 cals.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: delta9mda on September 08, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
I don't think I could eat 4k if I used a funnel.

Stop crying, four double whoppers w cheese is approx 4000 cal.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: SmallPole on September 08, 2013, 08:27:57 AM
Swimming is the most calorie consuming sport out there, spend a whole day swimming, you will be surprised how much you will eat after.

not 13k kcal
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Tito24 on September 08, 2013, 08:28:19 AM
cat stevens
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: dj181 on September 08, 2013, 08:28:42 AM
James Stevens has never ate over 3000 cals.

you got Mentzer's heavy duty journal right?

in it he said that he had 500 cal days when he was dieting, that's damn low
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: yates fan on September 08, 2013, 09:05:52 AM
er understood all the crap on here abiut 4000 cals being a lot and 8 or 10 thousand cals being impossible,sure 4000 clean cals can be a lot of food,but is nowhere near impossible,off season I know a lot of guys that eat 4000 cals at one sitting in a fast food restaurant.i think most people thast postr on here must be liteweight females!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: delta9mda on September 08, 2013, 09:08:02 AM
er understood all the crap on here abiut 4000 cals being a lot and 8 or 10 thousand cals being impossible,sure 4000 clean cals can be a lot of food,but is nowhere near impossible,off season I know a lot of guys that eat 4000 cals at one sitting in a fast food restaurant.i think most people thast postr on here must be liteweight females!

Owned
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: anabolichalo on September 08, 2013, 09:09:38 AM
gonna start eating 4000kcal per day

gotta get huge

i'm tired of being a small tit
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 08, 2013, 09:25:15 AM
Cutler is eating 4500 cals a day and claims he starving...lol...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: el numero uno on September 08, 2013, 09:26:54 AM
Pros lie about pretty much everything.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: anab0lic on September 08, 2013, 09:44:28 AM
he also got pretty fucking fat during some of his off-seasons, i question wether he really needed that much...I recall hearing him talk in a recent youtube video that he realized towards the end of his career it was a mistake to eat that much as it meant that he ended up having to cut for much longer to get to low BF levels again...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 08, 2013, 10:27:13 AM
you got Mentzer's heavy duty journal right?

in it he said that he had 500 cal days when he was dieting, that's damn low
Yea I got it, he was on speed.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: The_Hammer on September 08, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
4k calories is nothing if its fast food,icecream and chocolate and the such.

phelps, maybe he ate 13k calories on one day,he didnt claim he ate that day in day out.

as for yates 4k calories, thats a shitload of clean food, and hell no never did he diet on 4k cals to get cut.

absolute bs

LOL, you're a nobody.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 08, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
Ray never won a Mr O.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 08, 2013, 11:05:12 AM
Swimming is the most calorie consuming sport out there, spend a whole day swimming, you will be surprised how much you will eat after.

I always get dramatically hungry after swimming.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: hrspwr1 on September 08, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
I know when I eat 5000 calories a day I get stronger. I just get tired of shitting all the time and back it down to 2500.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: dj181 on September 08, 2013, 11:50:52 AM
Ray never won a Mr O.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: macos on September 08, 2013, 11:58:33 AM
4000 calorie thing is correc twhen you are loaded with 9-10 gms of gear with some growth and igf thrown in. The more the androgenic level of  your system, the more calories you can eat, and those calories are going to go in the right places. And the androgenic level is directly proportional to all the anabolic drugs you have in your system. Most of you guys will never experience this situation because the androgenic level of the pros takes a lot and A LOT of money and dedication.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: deceiver on September 08, 2013, 12:43:57 PM
4k calories is nothing if its fast food,icecream and chocolate and the such.

phelps, maybe he ate 13k calories on one day,he didnt claim he ate that day in day out.

as for yates 4k calories, thats a shitload of clean food, and hell no never did he diet on 4k cals to get cut.

absolute bs

Well, I know personally guys that diet on >3000 calories and get in great shape. To each his own, I guess.

As far as Kevin goes, he's so obviously full of shit. He lies constantly. Interview with Palumbo? Guess what, he will claim that he dieted on fish only and no carbs. Dorian? Oh yeah, I ate just as much but maybe 500kcals less. He makes this shit up all the time.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: jude2 on September 08, 2013, 12:52:26 PM
Everyone is different. When I was competing as a LW I would eat 3k calories and my training partner was a LHW and he had to eat 1800 calories.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: arce1988 on September 08, 2013, 12:53:03 PM
5,000 calories per day to get shredded? what say you galeniko?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: _bruce_ on September 08, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
cat stevens

Salman rushdie  ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 08, 2013, 01:01:22 PM
Well, I know personally guys that diet on >3000 calories and get in great shape. To each his own, I guess.

As far as Kevin goes, he's so obviously full of shit. He lies constantly. Interview with Palumbo? Guess what, he will claim that he dieted on fish only and no carbs. Dorian? Oh yeah, I ate just as much but maybe 500kcals less. He makes this shit up all the time.

You can diet pretty effectively on fish and shrimp. It just costs a fortune.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: arce1988 on September 08, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
You can diet pretty effectively on fish and shrimp. It just costs a fortune.

^


easily $100 per day
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: anabolichalo on September 08, 2013, 01:10:54 PM
Well, I know personally guys that diet on >3000 calories and get in great shape. To each his own, I guess.

As far as Kevin goes, he's so obviously full of shit. He lies constantly. Interview with Palumbo? Guess what, he will claim that he dieted on fish only and no carbs. Dorian? Oh yeah, I ate just as much but maybe 500kcals less. He makes this shit up all the time.
the guys you know personally are full of shit

hows that
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: yates fan on September 09, 2013, 09:21:14 AM
not saying dorian is a god bor anything like that,but the idiots on here saying he makes shit up are gonna smoke a tird in hell!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: bradistani on September 09, 2013, 09:36:16 AM
Just stumbled across a seminar from Dorian, Mr Olympia Shawn ray and Kevin Levrone that took place in the UK earlier this year.

Dorian States that he kept records of all his food choices, even offseason as a tool to tweak his performance and refine his physique.

6500 cals offseason was the norm at his peak bodyweight and never went below 4000 cals cutting for the Mr Olmpia contest.

1:40



that was a good/interesting video. thanks for sharing!!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: MORTALCOIL on September 09, 2013, 09:45:50 AM
Shawn is pretty interesting to listen to. Had he got a deeper voice, people would take what he says more seriously. As much as i respect Dorian, I still would doubt those numbers (not saying he's lying but not sure he's telling the truth either). We've all heard so much BS from Bbers that now everything one says is under scrutiny. My all-time favorite being:

Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Hulkster on September 09, 2013, 02:04:48 PM
looks to be true ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: GraniteCityDon on September 09, 2013, 03:16:09 PM
Sir Bradley Wiggins (had to get that title in there lol) claims to consume 7K calories per day.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: hangclean on September 09, 2013, 10:42:13 PM
Why is it hard to believe that a guy with that much lean mass can diet on 4000 cals a day to get in contest shape?  It takes a lot of calories to support that much lean mass.......not to mention the massive amount of drugs he was most likely using......combined with the fact that it is 2500 calories less than what he ate offseason.  Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Master Blaster on September 09, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
Why is it hard to believe that a guy with that much lean mass can diet on 4000 cals a day to get in contest shape?  It takes a lot of calories to support that much lean mass.......not to mention the massive amount of drugs he was most likely using......combined with the fact that it is 2500 calories less than what he ate offseason.  Makes perfect sense.

These people are dummies!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 09, 2013, 11:29:50 PM
victor richards

claimed he was eating @ least 10000 calories-15000 calories of CLEAN food/day

what a load of BS  ::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: flinstones1 on September 09, 2013, 11:39:19 PM
Why is it hard to believe that a guy with that much lean mass can diet on 4000 cals a day to get in contest shape?  It takes a lot of calories to support that much lean mass.......not to mention the massive amount of drugs he was most likely using......combined with the fact that it is 2500 calories less than what he ate offseason.  Makes perfect sense.

Dorian prepped a long time out, when he says precontest he could mean 12 weeks out
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: indie-lad on September 10, 2013, 04:02:32 AM
Great speech by Shawn Ray. Regardless of what you think of the man personally, he is living the dream...good for him.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: BigCyp on September 10, 2013, 04:08:32 AM
Not surprising at all that DY could metabolise 4K a day, and still cut for the Olympia.

If a 180 pound male can cut on 2000kcals, a 300 pound male on boatloads of steroid and cutting agents sure can on twice that lol
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: BigCyp on September 10, 2013, 04:51:06 AM
Sir Bradley Wiggins (had to get that title in there lol) claims to consume 7K calories per day.

Easily true.

Some people forget that calories are just fuel. If you're cycling training over 100 miles a day, then you need probably 3 x the fuel a regular sedintary person would use.

I used to do a 22 mile commute on my road bike, so after about 45 miles a day I was LOSING weight even though I bumped my calories by over a 1000 a day above my maintenance.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: RRR on September 10, 2013, 04:58:51 AM
I was LOSING weight even though I bumped my calories by over a 1000 a day above my maintenance.


My little brother gained 24lbs fasting with Gandhi back in the days.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: BigCyp on September 10, 2013, 05:00:14 AM
LOSING weight. ABOVE maintenance.

My little brother gained 24lbs fasting with Gandhi back in the days.


1000 calories above my usual maintenance mongoloid.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: RRR on September 10, 2013, 05:01:25 AM
1000 calories above my usual maintenance mongoloid.

So you were burning 1000 kcal in 45 miles of cycling? Sure bro.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: bigmc on September 10, 2013, 05:04:32 AM
1000 calories above my usual maintenance mongoloid.

are you saying that zzz loves the cock cyp
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: BigCyp on September 10, 2013, 05:11:03 AM
So you were burning 1000 kcal in 45 miles of cycling? Sure bro.

I don't know, I never did the math.

I was losing weight, whilst cycling ( speed ave of 20 miles per hour) for 2, 22 mile journeys per day, although I was eating 1000 kcals over my usual non cycling maintenance.

You be stupid to think that I can't burn 500 kcals, while fucking killing it on a road bike for 22 miles no breaks lol. That's about 80 mins of cycling lol, average fat bitches at the gym can burn 250 kcals doing 40 mins on a cross trainer
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: RRR on September 10, 2013, 05:12:16 AM
Hey Bigcyp when you "used to" ( I used to bench 400lbs when I was marathon training ) cycle 45miles a day 5 days a week, when did you find time to eat 1000kcal after your work plus 4 hours ( if no rain etc... ) ride?

Also, there was no boar semen manual collection job closer to your place of residence?

Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: BigCyp on September 10, 2013, 05:13:15 AM
are you saying that zzz loves the cock cyp

ZZZ is used to bringing cocks to orgasm with just the flick of his tongue, so has no concept of exercise and it's ability to use calories bigmc
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: BigCyp on September 10, 2013, 05:15:58 AM
Hey Bigcyp when you "used to" ( I used to bench 400lbs when I was marathon training ) cycle 45miles a day 5 days a week, when did you find time to eat 1000kcal after your work plus 4 hours ( if no rain etc... ) ride?

Also, there was no boar semen manual collection job closer to your place of residence?

'Used to' - would still be doing it if I didn't have multiple sclerosis now.

I ate around 600-800 kcals during the ride itself (mostly oat based, flapjacks etc) and had to down 100g of dextrose mixed with an isotonic drink to replace my glucose and salts once I arrived at work (otherwise i'd be in trouble).

Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: bigmc on September 10, 2013, 05:17:55 AM
ZZZ is used to bringing cocks to orgasm with just the flick of his tongue, so has no concept of exercise and it's ability to use calories bigmc

yes its clear that lol is used to taking his calories in the prone position in both pipes for maximal absorbtion
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: BigCyp on September 10, 2013, 05:21:49 AM
yes its clear that lol is used to taking his calories in the prone position in both pipes for maximal absorbtion

Haha yes bigmc, rofl is the kind of 'guy' who weighs his face before and after giving bj's so he can work out how many grams of protein he's getting
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 10, 2013, 06:54:18 AM

I ate around 600-800 kcals during the ride itself (mostly oat based, flapjacks etc) and had to down 100g of dextrose mixed with an isotonic drink to replace my glucose and salts once I arrived at work (otherwise i'd be in trouble).



"Would be in trouble"

What would happen if you didn't have your sugar drink?  Are you diabetic?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 10, 2013, 06:56:00 AM
'Used to' - would still be doing it if I didn't have multiple sclerosis now.

I ate around 600-800 kcals during the ride itself (mostly oat based, flapjacks etc) and had to down 100g of dextrose mixed with an isotonic drink to replace my glucose and salts once I arrived at work (otherwise i'd be in trouble).



I would get gassed so bad at times that I could barely clip out of my pedals to walk into the gas station to buy a couple Snickers. I always just drank water from a Camelback, and didn't eat at all during the rides.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 10, 2013, 06:59:58 AM
"Would be in trouble"

What would happen if you didn't have your sugar drink?  Are you diabetic?

WTF are you talking about? That is just nonsense.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: RRR on September 10, 2013, 07:16:01 AM
I would get gassed so bad at times that I could barely clip out of my pedals to walk into the gas station to buy a couple Snickers. I always just drank water from a Camelback, and didn't eat at all during the rides.

Did you use PED for cycling? Friend of mine rides with a semi-pro team ( makes money but not enough to live on ) they are big on test short esters and EPO but the test is for after the race or after intense training, just for recovery.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 10, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
Did you use PED for cycling? Friend of mine rides with a semi-pro team ( makes money but not enough to live on ) they are big on test short esters and EPO but the test is for after the race or after intense training, just for recovery.

No. I was young then, in my 20's. I was using a higher end mountain bike and riding with roadies. I have used quite a bit at other times. lol

My bike was killer, but they could fade me in a second for the most part.

There was a park we used to ride miles after miles in. They couldn't take their bikes down the stairs. Haha. I hit my head so hard one a tree branch there one day going through the woodsy part. Fucking mad.

PED's would have helped for sure.

This all coming from a guy that hit a pothole wasted at over 20 mph going home from a bar. They let me put my bike in the storage room at the bar. I fucked up some nice parts on that crash.

It's funny when I think about that stuff, I've done some shit in life for only being 42, but it's been fun.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: hangclean on September 10, 2013, 10:30:03 AM
Dorian prepped a long time out, when he says precontest he could mean 12 weeks out
thats pretty standard.  Most people start their precontest diet 12 to 16 weeks out, depending on how lean they are.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: Mawse on September 10, 2013, 11:04:12 AM
how many of those cals were carbs for the slin he was abusing?

no wonder they all got guts on 4-8 cals a day
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: dyslexic on September 10, 2013, 03:30:32 PM
Swimming is the most calorie consuming sport out there, spend a whole day swimming, you will be surprised how much you will eat after.

I spent 12 years swimming competitively.


That's why I call bullshit.


You can eat a lot after, but if you are in the pool 3 to 4 times a day starting at 5 AM, you aren't gonna have any leftover pizza or pancakes in your belly. As a matter of fact, swimming with anything in your stomach is a huge mistake, and you sure won't win a race until your food is digested.


Like I said before, he may have eaten like that once in a while, but the Media blew all of that bullshit way out of proportion.


Butterly can burn up to 1000 calories in a half hour. Yeah, I know....  ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates "4000 Calories is the lowest I ate pre contest"
Post by: GraniteCityDon on September 13, 2013, 10:20:20 AM