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Title: 2013 Olympia - If Jay Cutler wins the Olympia
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 26, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
If Jay wins the Olympia, will Jay be the first Mr. Olympia to only train on machines for a full year with next to no free weights?

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Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Bevo on September 26, 2013, 06:00:43 PM
If Jay wins the Olympia, will Jay be the first Mr. Olympia to only train on machines for a full year with next to no free weights?

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Phil Heath pretty much already does this
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 26, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
he does badass muscle mind connection 3 plates per side deadlifts with free weights.

hardcore ;D
Son of bitch is strong. ;D
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 26, 2013, 06:28:37 PM
actualy, im serious, the way he does them is very intense,very hard to do.

ofc the semen clogged eyes of schmoes which never lifted a weight in their life will not see that,theyll only see 3 plates and thinks that nothing, but the guy is very strong indeed.
I assume he is strong after all the years, I was poking fun. I wish him the best but not a favorite of mine.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: arce1988 on September 26, 2013, 06:30:55 PM
  Father Time Always Wins
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Nails on September 26, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
I saw Jay rowing 80 pound dumbbell for 6 grueling reps at 15 weeks out

total beast this year  ::)
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Wiggs on September 26, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
If Jay wins, i'm fucked. I promised earlier this year that if Jay wins, I'll leave Getbig and I have every intention on keeping my promise.

But let me assure you, I'm not worried about Jay winning at all. He will be top 6 though.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Nails on September 26, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
If Jay wins, i'm fucked. I promised earlier this year that if Jay wins, I'll leave Getbig and I have every intention on keeping my promise.

But let me assure you, I'm not worried about Jay winning at all. He will be top 6 though.


no need to worry about that guarantee wiggs

the only thing J is winning, is a free ticket to kai greens after the Olympia party
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 26, 2013, 07:03:59 PM
I saw Jay rowing 80 pound dumbbell for 6 grueling reps at 15 weeks out

total beast this year  ::)

It's not a weightlifting contest  ;)
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: deceiver on September 26, 2013, 07:06:16 PM
It's not a weightlifting contest  ;)

Weightlifting, lol, he is just fucking lazy, that's all.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: haider on September 26, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
If Jay wins, i'm fucked. I promised earlier this year that if Jay wins, I'll leave Getbig and I have every intention on keeping my promise.

But let me assure you, I'm not worried about Jay winning at all. He will be top 6 though.
There are options still, for those of us who aren't principled unlike dedicated republicans:

"Wiggs is Back"

"The Hebrew"

"Mrniggsone"
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: delta9mda on September 26, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
If Jay wins, i'm fucked. I promised earlier this year that if Jay wins, I'll leave Getbig and I have every intention on keeping my promise.

But let me assure you, I'm not worried about Jay winning at all. He will be top 6 though.

12-12-12 nothing happened.
Phil won last year.
Miami HEAT won the finals.
You're 0-3 so far.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Nails on September 26, 2013, 07:11:51 PM
It's not a weightlifting contest  ;)

it's all in the cocktails ;D
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: The Grim Lifter on September 26, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
After you've been training long enough, machines work like anything else. When you start they do nothing.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: rooseveltdunn on September 26, 2013, 07:31:13 PM
After you've been training long enough, machines work like anything else. When you start they do nothing.

Machines work just fine even for beginners, all that free weight talk is bro science, as long as the nutrition is fine and the work outs are concitent the gains will come.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Wiggs on September 26, 2013, 07:31:24 PM
12-12-12 nothing happened.
Phil won last year.
Miami HEAT won the finals.
You're 0-3 so far.


There was a spiritual awakening 12-21-12 (get the date right geez)
I said I thought Phil won but barely last year
I still don't want to talk about the Spurs
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: delta9mda on September 26, 2013, 07:43:46 PM
There was a spiritual awakening 12-21-12 (get the date right geez)
I said I thought Phil won but barely last year
I still don't want to talk about the Spurs


We love our wiggins lol whatever the date nothing happened
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: delta9mda on September 26, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
HEAT have the #1 Hebrew NBA player, you mad wiggs?
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Nails on September 26, 2013, 07:47:17 PM
the only reason the Spurs lost, was the recent news that Tim Duncan love to fuck hairy assholes
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: che on September 26, 2013, 07:52:31 PM
Machines work just fine even for beginners, all that free weight talk is bro science, as long as the nutrition is fine and the work outs are concitent the gains will come.


Excellent post  .
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: 20inch calves on September 26, 2013, 07:55:12 PM
If Jay wins, i'm fucked. I promised earlier this year that if Jay wins, I'll leave Getbig and I have every intention on keeping my promise.

But let me assure you, I'm not worried about Jay winning at all. He will be top 6 though.
         man I hope Jay wins sucka
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: Gonuclear on September 26, 2013, 08:04:28 PM
exact, the muscle doesnt even know what its lifting, free weight, cable,machine.


ppl can train very wrong on all of the above.

besides, those guys are strong like oxes if they want to be.

this means, easy shoulder press with 120lbs dumbells, these gotta be lifted up into position, everytime this is done, theyd risk their rotator cuffs or a random tear.

so,why not just use the smith reack for military press and thats it.

the shoulders gonna look exactly the same.

this being just one example.

The argument for weights is that they impact more muscle fibers for a given rep, due to the need to continuously stabilize the weight, while machines support the weights along a single curve of effort  with no reliance on the user's muscles.  That's the theory, anyway.  Sorry if I am posting something everyone here knows.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: 240 is Back on September 26, 2013, 10:09:39 PM
Jay is such a hard worker
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2013, 10:28:16 PM
If Jay wins, i'm fucked. I promised earlier this year that if Jay wins, I'll leave Getbig and I have every intention on keeping my promise.


What would you do? Where else could you espouse your groundbreaking theories?
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 27, 2013, 04:52:00 PM
The argument for weights is that they impact more muscle fibers for a given rep, due to the need to continuously stabilize the weight, while machines support the weights along a single curve of effort  with no reliance on the user's muscles.  That's the theory, anyway.  Sorry if I am posting something everyone here knows.

This^^^Bob Chick after retiring use to say Squatting, Benching and Dead lifts was stupid. That's because he got older, weaker and lazier(not smarter) His ego wouldn't allow him to do these exercises with much less weight because he didn't want to look like a pussy. So he moved to machines and kept the dosages high and got away with it(in clothes). Machines basically take out the central nervous system. Half the amount of muscle fibers are hit with machines. Can you build a great physique with just machines? Probably. But I'd bet the house that muscle density and "graininess will suffer greatly...
Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - If Jay Cutler wins the Olympia
Post by: musclecenter on September 27, 2013, 05:48:54 PM
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Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - If Jay Cutler wins the Olympia
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
can't hit those stabilizer/balance muscles with machines.   Well, unless you do a dump truck of steroids.
Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - If Jay Cutler wins the Olympia
Post by: njflex on September 27, 2013, 08:54:53 PM
can't hit those stabilizer/balance muscles with machines.   Well, unless you do a dump truck of steroids.
thats why u mix barbell/dbells,machines ,change it up.each workout use some of each,others do all free weights.
Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - If Jay Cutler wins the Olympia
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2013, 08:56:39 PM
thats why u mix barbell/dbells,machines ,change it up.each workout use some of each,others do all free weights.

the broscience is strong with this one, but also accurate.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: crusher777 on September 27, 2013, 09:08:04 PM
This^^^Bob Chick after retiring use to say Squatting, Benching and Dead lifts was stupid. That's because he got older, weaker and lazier(not smarter) His ego wouldn't allow him to do these exercises with much less weight because he didn't want to look like a pussy. So he moved to machines and kept the dosages high and got away with it(in clothes). Machines basically take out the central nervous system. Half the amount of muscle fibers are hit with machines. Can you build a great physique with just machines? Probably. But I'd bet the house that muscle density and "graininess will suffer greatly...

Just lift weights however you want and keep your dosages high and you'll grow, period.  No need to overthink training.
Title: Re: 2013 Olympia - If Jay Cutler wins the Olympia
Post by: Bevo on September 27, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
can't hit those stabilizer/balance muscles with machines.   Well, unless you do a dump truck of steroids.


Which the majority of bbers do dimwit
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 27, 2013, 09:55:58 PM
Just lift weights however you want and keep your dosages high and you'll grow, period.  No need to overthink training.

True...but not at the elite level...It's not like power lifters are working out only on machines thinking they can get stronger at the bench or squat or dead lift.
Title: Re: If Jay wins the Olympia
Post by: crusher777 on September 28, 2013, 09:09:32 AM
True...but not at the elite level...It's not like power lifters are working out only on machines thinking they can get stronger at the bench or squat or dead lift.

Powerlifting and bodybuilding are two totally different things.  Training is much more important in powerlifting.