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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: 24KT on December 27, 2005, 10:24:16 PM
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You know, ...I don't think any of us really knows what happened other than Melissa James is dead, and that Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan have been charged. As compelling as it may be to speculate publicly and openly about what we think may have happened, some of the comments that have been made about both the victim and the suspects are truly in poor taste. Just reading some of this stuff makes me feel the need to take a shower.
None of us knows what really happened, and I would have to think this rampant speculation, not to mention disrespect, and open contempt for both the suspects and the deceased, have got to be difficult for the families, friends and loved ones of all concerned.
Sit back, ...take a deep breath, ...and retreat to the nearest corner of dignity.
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You know, ...I don't think any of us really knows what happened other than Melissa James is dead, and that Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan have been charged. As compelling as it may be to speculate publicly and openly about what we think may have happened, some of the comments that have been made about both the victim and the suspects are truly in poor taste. Just reading some of this stuff makes me feel the need to take a shower. None of us knows what really happened, and I would have to think this rampant speculation, not to mention disrespect, and open contempt for both the suspects and the deceased, have got to be difficult for the families, friends and loved ones of all concerned.
Sit back, ...take a deep breath, ...and retreat to the nearest corner of dignity.
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you forgot the <rant>
(start rant tag)
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I didn't know they were innocent until proved guilty.
I guess the cops & the courts better release them because they could be making a mistake.
Besides....
they wouldn't run or anything.
;D
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you forgot the <rant>
(start rant tag)
<rant>
...and I think that some of the opportunistic websites that have recently popped up, sprouting google ad links, and other forms of paid banner advertising reflect a severe disconnect with conscience or morality.</rant>
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You know, ...I don't think any of us really knows what happened other than Melissa James is dead, and that Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan have been charged. As compelling as it may be to speculate publicly and openly about what we think may have happened, some of the comments that have been made about both the victim and the suspects are truly in poor taste. Just reading some of this stuff makes me feel the need to take a shower.
None of us knows what really happened, and I would have to think this rampant speculation, not to mention disrespect, and open contempt for both the suspects and the deceased, have got to be difficult for the families, friends and loved ones of all concerned.
Sit back, ...take a deep breath, ...and retreat to the nearest corner of dignity.
Jag, no matter how mch you try to kiss their ass, 1. they will never be able to read this, 2. they wouldn't buy your stuff anyway and 2. innocent people do not run and do the things they did. And, please do not let our remarks be the only excuse for you to take a shower.
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please do not let our remarks be the only excuse for you to take a shower.
That was harsh ... yet refreshingly witty.
Snap, as they say.
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Jag, no matter how mch you try to kiss their ass, 1. they will never be able to read this, 2. they wouldn't buy your stuff anyway and 2. innocent people do not run and do the things they did.
Keith,
I have no interest in kissing Craig's or Kelly's ass. I do not know them, have never met them, probably never will, and have neither the desire nor aspiration to do so. And I would think the purchase of supplements would be the last thing on either of their minds right now. I just think some of the people in here have no regard for the families. Do you think seeing or hearing this kind of sarcastic vitriol is beneficial or being supportive of the James family right now? Craig, Kelly, and Melissa have families and loved ones, and seeing some of the cynical crap, and speculation about their loved ones hardly does anything beneficial for anyone's frame of mind right now. Right now all the families need healing and answers, ...not war drums and sarcastic speculation pulled out of people's anatomies. There'll be plenty of time for that when the trial starts.
And, please do not let our remarks be the only excuse for you to take a shower.
Ok, I gotta admit, ...that last part of your remark did make me giggle.
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The title of this forum is "News & Rumors on Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan". Public speculation is the whole point of this board. If the families of the parties concerned are offended by this material then they can choose to not read this forum.
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The title of this forum is "News & Rumors on Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan". Public speculation is the whole point of this board. If the families of the parties concerned are offended by this material then they can choose to not read this forum.
That was probably the most meaningful thing ever said on this board!!
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...and I think that some of the opportunistic websites that have recently popped up, sprouting google ad links, and other forms of paid banner advertising reflect a severe disconnect with conscience or morality.</rant>
Although I certainly respect your desire to maintain some decorum, it should be noted that in any tragedy, some suffer while others benefit.
The suffering is going to happen anyway, so others may as well capitalize on the situation. You see this happen whenever there's a natural disaster, terrorist attack, high-profile death, etc.
That's just the nature of people and there's nothing all that wrong with bringing something good out of tragedy.
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**** off, Judi. A pyramid-scheme-peddling scammer like yourself talking about dignity is the height of hypocrisy.
Hope this helps.
how come i can see the word ****?
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Although I certainly respect your desire to maintain some decorum, it should be noted that in any tragedy, some suffer while others benefit.
The suffering is going to happen anyway, so other may as well capitalize on the situation. You see this happen whenever there's a natural disaster, terrorist attack, high-profile death, etc.
That's just the nature of people and there's nothing all that wrong with bringing something good out of tragedy.
I agree 100%.
If there was no demand for sites discussing the matter, I'm understand Jag's argument.
But this is an interesting story- from both fans of the sport, as well as regular people. There are some amazing human stories in this case. Craig and Kelly's downward spiral, the victim who was no angel herself, the dissention/division in the sport...
People WANT to know what's happening. I had 5000+ UNIQUE hits yesterday alone on www.freecraigtitus.com. THat means 5000 different people in this world wanted to learn about this story and see the updates. It's growing because people like good info, delivered in a clean format, with zero work. And I bring that.
Jag, I could see you hating if the site was along the lines of "Free Craig, he's a hero". But it's not. It delivers news and info about the case in an unbiased manner. People like this- more and more people every day- and I intend to keep bringing it to them.
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240 i havent been to your site since day one what have i missed :)
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240 i havent been to your site since day one what have i missed :)
Ask the 5000 unique visitors that arrived yesterday for up-to-the-hour coverage of the case, including new pics, statements from Craig, and exclusive words of support (and disdain!) from fellow IFBB pros.
Available for free and updated all day long, www.freecraigtitus.com
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You know, ...I don't think any of us really knows what happened other than Melissa James is dead, and that Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan have been charged. As compelling as it may be to speculate publicly and openly about what we think may have happened, some of the comments that have been made about both the victim and the suspects are truly in poor taste. Just reading some of this stuff makes me feel the need to take a shower.
None of us knows what really happened, and I would have to think this rampant speculation, not to mention disrespect, and open contempt for both the suspects and the deceased, have got to be difficult for the families, friends and loved ones of all concerned.
Sit back, ...take a deep breath, ...and retreat to the nearest corner of dignity.
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I agree where are the moderators.GOOD JOB GUYS.
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I agree where are the moderators.GOOD JOB GUYS.
Lee, any words of encouragement you'd like to extend to Craig and Kelly in this tough time?
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I agree 100%.
If there was no demand for sites discussing the matter, I'm understand Jag's argument.
But this is an interesting story- from both fans of the sport, as well as regular people. There are some amazing human stories in this case. Craig and Kelly's downward spiral, the victim who was no angel herself, the dissention/division in the sport...
People WANT to know what's happening. I had 5000+ UNIQUE hits yesterday alone on www.freecraigtitus.com. THat means 5000 different people in this world wanted to learn about this story and see the updates. It's growing because people like good info, delivered in a clean format, with zero work. And I bring that.
Jag, I could see you hating if the site was along the lines of "Free Craig, he's a hero". But it's not. It delivers news and info about the case in an unbiased manner. People like this- more and more people every day- and I intend to keep bringing it to them.
Ya know, I haven't quite yet figured out if it's a matter of you being deluded enough to actually believe what you say, ...or if it's a matter of you thinking that we're all stupid enough to believe it. 240, I like you, ...so it pains me to say it, but I think what you bring is tabloid-style sensationlist "yellow journalism", ...and in comparing you to a journalist, I think I'm being extremely generous there. Ya, people want to know the facts, but there is nothing unbiased about you. Your site isn't about Craig or Kelly or Melissa, or anti-steroid bashing. Your site is all about YOU and your self-glorification. You operate like the Enquirer or the Weekly World News, where they publish 2 issues. On the cover of one is the word "Guilty", and on the cover of the other is the word "Innocent". Then they see which issue sells better, ...then slant their stories in subsequent issues to match. If it bleeds, ...it leads, ...and if it ain't bleeding, you'll stab it with a fork to make sure it does. If you're so deluded as to think you deliver info in an unbiased manner, you need to give your head a good smack. You're doing everything to turn it into a circus freak show, not for the "benefit" of readers, ...but for your own benefit, greed, and narcissistic self-aggrandizement.
For a good example of a site that does infact deliver news and info about the case in a truly unbiased manner, take a good look at http://www.titusandryan.com.
And that's all I'm going to say
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240 i havent been to your site since day one what have i missed :)
The site is extremely useful for what he says. Unfortunately getbig is cluttered with people endlessly discussing things that will be demystified sooner or later.
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i doubt missed something lol
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DIGNITY is a 20th century phenomenon
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Quote from: G o a t b o y on December 28, 2005, 04:10:24 AM
Judi. A pyramid-scheme-peddling scammer like yourself talking about dignity is the height of hypocrisy.
Hope this helps.
true, true
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she's done this many times. She did the same thing about a thread on the Y board. The Y board for god sakes.
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If you're so deluded as to think you deliver info in an unbiased manner, you need to give your head a good smack. You're doing everything to turn it into a circus freak show, not for the "benefit" of readers, ...but for your own benefit, greed, and narcissistic self-aggrandizement.
It would be an interesting experiment if we took 100 people at random, sent them to both www.freecraigtitus.com and www.jaguarenterprises.ne t, then read them your quote above, and asked them to guess which site you were talking about.
How do you think it would turn out, Judi? ;D
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being a saint i'm scared to ask wtf is a judy
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her website reeks of the attempt of luring in the gullible
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ok thanks i'll skip that bs
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ok thanks i'll skip that bs
I'm saving the country from Jaguar bs, one person at a time ;D
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I'm saving the country from Jaguar bs, one person at a time ;D
What a coincidence.... 240 is "saving bodybuilding", one post at a time. ;D
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Just reading some of this stuff makes me feel the need to take a shower.
Please, Jaguar........
Abstain from that shower, I can take your sweet black ass as raw as you want.
Come when I call.
DIV
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Please, Jaguar........
Abstain from that shower, I can take your sweet black ass as raw as you want.
Come when I call.
DIV
she's a he
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It would be an interesting experiment if we took 100 people at random, sent them to both www.freecraigtitus.com and www.jaguarenterprises.ne t, then read them your quote above, and asked them to guess which site you were talking about.
How do you think it would turn out, Judi? ;D
Interesting!
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It would be an interesting experiment if we took 100 people at random, sent them to both www.freecraigtitus.com and www.jaguarenterprises.ne t, then read them your quote above, and asked them to guess which site you were talking about.
How do you think it would turn out, Judi? ;D
If you wanna send people to my website, send them to: http://www.jaguarenterprises.org/presentation.htm
or have them call toll-free in North America (800) 756-3819 using pin code: 182207# to have them hear our last conference call. It starts up after about the first 60 seconds or so.
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to have them hear our last conference call. It starts up after about the first 60 seconds or so.
The first 59 seconds of goat orgasms kinda kill your retention rate, no?
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your company seems to be set up like Amway
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I'm sorry but I have no problem ribbing Titus nor should anyone else who's had bad dealing with him
As far the words suspects, Judi. I'm sorry but it doesn't take Scooby Doo to put together clues
(http://tinypic.com/jfgt8j.jpg)
1. Woman found bound and gagged, burned up in Kelly Ryan's Jaguar, Kentucky Fried Chicken Style
2. Titus and Ryan Flees immediately afterward, Titus shaving his head and Kelly dying her hair brown
3. Ending up in Mass to "liquidate assets" and tell someone they are going to a country with no extridite laws
4. 8,300 in cash in an aerosol can with a false bottom.
5. Bought a new truck, the same day of murder
6. Reciepts and video of Kelly Ryan buying gallons of Lighter Fluid.
Sorry but even O.J. Simpson did a better job in looking innocent of all crime than they did.
Kelly will be jail for a long time
Titus might get a needle, if not, then he will DIE IN PRISON!!!!
I'm not sorry because that was a fucked up thing they did to that poor woman. I hope they get the book thrown at him
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I'm sorry but I have no problem ribbing Titus nor should anyone else who's had bad dealing with him
As far the words suspects, Judi. I'm sorry but it doesn't take Scooby Doo to put together clues
(http://tinypic.com/jfgt8j.jpg)
1. Woman found bound and gagged, burned up in Kelly Ryan's Jaguar, Kentucky Fried Chicken Style
2. Titus and Ryan Flees immediately afterward, Titus shaving his head and Kelly dying her hair brown
3. Ending up in Mass to "liquidate assets" and tell someone they are going to a country with no extridite laws
4. 8,300 in cash in an aerosol can with a false bottom.
5. Bought a new truck, the same day of murder
6. Reciepts and video of Kelly Ryan buying gallons of Lighter Fluid.
Sorry but even O.J. Simpson did a better job in looking innocent of all crime than they did.
Kelly will be jail for a long time
Titus might get a needle, if not, then he will DIE IN PRISON!!!!
I'm not sorry because that was a fucked up thing they did to that poor woman. I hope they get the book thrown at him
HAHAHA................Ye ah, I guess you don't have to be Hercule Poirot to come to the conclusion that ummmmm.................. .....THEY DID IT.
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I'm sorry but I have no problem ribbing Titus nor should anyone else who's had bad dealing with him
As far the words suspects, Judi. I'm sorry but it doesn't take Scooby Doo to put together clues
Aren't you the same one who made that impassioned plea "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"?
I don't deny that the information that has been released so far is very damning. I have formed my own opinion about their guilt or innocence, ..but until they get their day in court, and have the ability for all facts to be scrutinized by a jury, ...and until a jury pronounces them guilty, ...I will continue to refer to them as suspects.
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your company seems to be set up like Amway
Knny, we are about as similar to Amway, ...as a Yugo is to a Ferrarri.
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My final word on this subject - in the past decade or more, there has been no 'dignity' in bodybuilding, so I don't think it's reasonable to expect that there will be any now.
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My final word on this subject - in the past decade or more, there has been no 'dignity' in bodybuilding, so I don't think it's reasonable to expect that there will be any now.
very true.
All we mice can do is show courtesy to other mice as we wrestle for the same crumbs.
We're big fish in a small pond. Only difference is, the koi can't buy more real estate. We can :D
-MSNBC or Bust
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Knny, we are about as similar to Amway, ...as a Yugo is to a Ferrarri.
amway, which is also quixtar, is much bigger than synergy.
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very true.
All we mice can do is show courtesy to other mice as we wrestle for the same crumbs.
We're big fish in a small pond. Only difference is, the koi can't buy more real estate. We can :D
-MSNBC or Bust
Dude, you might be mixing metaphors. Or something.
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Aren't you the same one who made that impassioned plea "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"?
I don't deny that the information that has been released so far is very damning. I have formed my own opinion about their guilt or innocence, ..but until they get their day in court, and have the ability for all facts to be scrutinized by a jury, ...and until a jury pronounces them guilty, ...I will continue to refer to them as suspects.
Not in this case. Titus fleed Las Vegas right after he was questioned. Innocent people do not flee the scene of the crime and attempt to leave the country to one that doesn't allow extradition. Anthony Gross is singing like a bird to get a lighter sentence and I bet Kelly Ryan will do the same, although she did buy all that lighter fluid.
This crime was so poorly done, its obvious that they are guilty.
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Jaguar Enterprises. The victim was found in a Jaguar. It all makes sense.. :o
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Actually i'm disappointed in Lee. There are already other sites that can be visited with very controlling formats to limit what is said.
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Actually i'm disappointed in Lee. There are already other sites that can be visited with very controlling formats to limit what is said.
put some words in his mouth.
what would please you to hear?
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Dumbbell living up to name. No need to embellish, he already spoke for himself.
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Dumbbell living up to his name. No need to embelish, he already spoke for himself.
:-*
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Knny, we are about as similar to Amway, ...as a Yugo is to a Ferrarri.
translation:
It's a "new & improved" pyramid scheme. ;D
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240 put up a website. that's what he does.
Being mad at 240 for blatant self-promotion is kinda like being mad at a bear for shitting in the woods.
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I'm sorry Medford, did you say something? I was too busy looking at your avatar.
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It would be an interesting experiment if we took 100 people at random, sent them to both www.freecraigtitus.com and www.jaguarenterprises.ne t, then read them your quote above, and asked them to guess which site you were talking about.
How do you think it would turn out, Judi? ;D
True dat Goat. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. 240 is informing with all the drama. Say what you may, but when it's all said and done I'd prefere www.freecraigtitus.com for the goods, without spin or spam.
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I'm fine with getbig.com.
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Now that's an avatar.
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... and someone help me here, please.
"Corner of dignity," what is this? Isn't the corner where one normally sends the undignified?
What I'm missin', jag?
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Knny, we are about as similar to Amway, ...as a Yugo is to a Ferrarri.
Amway would say the same thing...
but from outside looking in....
it's the same shit
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Amway would say the same thing...
but from outside looking in....
it's the same shit
"network marketing" = pyrmaid scheme
There is no such thing as "legitimate network marketing".
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This is no different than Court TV, most nightly news, or the discussions around the watercooler at work. People are intrigued and gossip about tragedy - particularly if it involves violence, sex, perversion or other taboo subjects. Some people try to disguise their interest by claiming that they want to "educate the public" or " hold the judicial/public official accountable" or other nonsense. I hope that the victims friends and family seek comfort in other places than an internet discussion board, but the fact that this discussion exists is nothing new.
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This is no different than Court TV, most nightly news, or the discussions around the watercooler at work.
Where're all these watercoolers I keep hearing about? And how many can actually "gather around" one without fvcking shit up for the non-gossip thirsty?
Sometimes we "gather" by the pissers, I guess, but chat here merely takes the focus off our penises.
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Where're all these watercoolers I keep hearing about? And how many can actually "gather around" one without fvcking shit up for the non-gossip thirsty?
Sometimes we "gather" by the pissers, I guess, but chat here merely takes the focus off our penises.
I would think gathering around the pisser would cause more problems for those waiting than people gathering around the water cooler.
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We talk in sound bites. Conversation ends with the urine.
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We talk in sound bites. Conversation ends with the urine.
lol
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"network marketing" = pyrmaid scheme
There is no such thing as "legitimate network marketing".
She's an Amway hustler