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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Frank Clairmonte on October 12, 2013, 09:23:41 AM
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Post all pictures you have.
Rhoden looks fantastic wow!
for more pictures => http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/index.php?mode=viewphotos&divisioncode=2925&comparisons=yes/
Dont forget to view pictures in new window for bigger version.
btw is it me or this phil heath is getting annoying? he is getting his ass raped by few guys.
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hmmmm
bad angle? i dont like this pic :/
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All look ridiculous.
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Just one pic, not that clear however Phil seems off / out classed.
THE BEEF
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I see one Bodybuilder and five bloated midgets on that pic.
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Pic is to far away to really see anything, except Dennis looks extremely lean!
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Just one pic, not that clear however Phil seems off / out classed.
THE BEEF
Phil looking narrow as fuck compared to everyone, and small/outclassed next to others..... still dont think hell lose, he doesnt look that far off.
looks like hes trying to squeeze out all the width he can though, hahaha
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From that pic it looks like Roelly owns that lineup.
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Just one pic, not that clear however Phil seems off / out classed.
THE BEEF
Phil looking narrow as fuck compared to everyone, and small/outclassed next to others..... still dont think hell lose, he doesnt look that far off.
looks like hes trying to squeeze out all the width he can though, hahaha
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on those pics
kai
wolf
heath
rhoden
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Phil just about holding his own against the superior bodybuilders.
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Crappy lighting at that show
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Crappy lighting at that show
they all look like shit, really.
bloated pigs.
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Wolf crushing everyone.
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Wolf crushing everyone.
Agreed. Hopefully he won't get douched out of it like the Olympia.
Wolf for the win.
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if you showed these pics to anyone not related to bodybuilding they would pick wolf out as the clear winner...
only us schmoes start to make excuses for crispness etc etc
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Wolf crushing everyone.
Wolf looks stupid as the fuck with those high lats in the front bicep shots. Che made the best post about him during the O.
Roelly looks no worst than 3rd but he'll get robbed again.
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From that pic it looks like Roelly owns that lineup.
Hmmm. His forearms vs Phil's. would like to see a triceps comparison between the two of them
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Wolf looks stupid as the fuck with those high lats in the front bicep shots. Che made the best post about him during the O.
G's up Hoes down around about this time.
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Hmmm. His forearms vs Phil's. would like to see a triceps comparison between the two of them
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Phil has unmatched forearm development IMHO.
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Phil does not look good at all.
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They're all lucky Jay didn't show up
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Phil looks bad.
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Standing relaxed Roelly wins easy.Did someone forget to turn the lights on though.
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It really is crazy how Phil just gets lost in every single lineup he's in.
He's guaranteed a win today though. It's just how things work in the IFBB.
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Phil has unmatched forearm development IMHO.
Look again, and compare their left forearms
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Winklaar is wider than Heath. This is now a proven fact.
Rhoden looks very good, posing like a boss.
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Look again, and compare their left forearms
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still think Phil has the edge.... size, shape, separation.
hard to compare in that pic though. Need fdb and side tri shots as well.
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PHIL HEATH: 3x MR O…… shredded.. as polished as we’ve ever seen him………. So well balanced. No real weaknesses ….. Glutes/hams are striated.. beautiful back double……. Slam dunk back lat spread…… he has no holes in his physique……… muscle shots are strong. He should easily win here tonight (despite Kai looking way improved)
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roelly realy has come on leaps and bounds this year tho, legit top 6 er next year
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roelly realy has come on leaps and bounds this year tho, legit top 6 er next year
ALL Roelly needs is a thicker more detailed back--mid lower area, thick chest. Better conditioning, and learn how to pose properly, and I can see him winning shows and being a legit threat at the O, top 6 or top 3.
He has the freak factor, and has the body parts.
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roelly realy has come on leaps and bounds this year tho, legit top 6 er next year
must be easier to get in condition without having the burden of pleasuring the grandma schmoe gh supplier every night.
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ALL Roelly needs is a thicker more detailed back--mid lower area, thick chest. Better conditioning, and learn how to pose properly, and I can see him winning shows and being a legit threat at the O, top 6 or top 3.
He has the freak factor, and has the body parts.
The blow me here schmoe stamp across his stomach should also help him get some votes...
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LAST CALLOUT:
PHIL HEATH
KAI GREENE
DENNIS WOLF
**** HEATH wins this and defends his MR O title here in MADRID.. too polished and full for GREENE (whos hurting up there) and WOLF (who's flat). Arguably however KAI wins the back shots..........he's freaky hard back there. Kai however is having problems with controlling his midsection...........the crowd is going nuts.... WOLF should go eat McDs
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LAST CALLOUT:
PHIL HEATH
KAI GREENE
DENNIS WOLF
**** HEATH wins this and defends his MR O title here in MADRID.. too polished and full for GREENE (whos hurting up there) and WOLF (who's flat). Arguably however KAI wins the back shots..........he's freaky hard back there. Kai however is having problems with controlling his midsection...........the crowd is going nuts.... WOLF should go eat McDs
Phils nuthuggers will always find 10 reasons why cheath is better. fuck off. 8)
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Phils nuthuggers will always find 10 reasons why cheath is better. fuck off. 8)
im not a huge fan of the line stepper.... but hes not losing.
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ALL Roelly needs is a thicker more detailed back--mid lower area, thick chest. Better conditioning, and learn how to pose properly, and I can see him winning shows and being a legit threat at the O, top 6 or top 3.
He has the freak factor, and has the body parts.
your right about that... somthing ive noticed that never gets brought up on here... leg biceps/hamstrings!! from the side look unreal, very prince like
his standing relaxed has come out of no where, he seems to have realy filled out, as i said a legit threat
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Rhoden looks pretty good.
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the lighting looks good in some spots, but gives too many shadows in others... maybe it's the ISO setting on the camera... I dunno... hopefully the promoters/producers would adjust the par-cans above.
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Heath is never going to be dominant Mr. Olympia. His time will come to an end soon. People will lost interest in him because he is not delivering anymore. Many bodybuilders are not so far away from beating him in some poses or completely. Kai got robbed this time.
lighting sucks, leaving Kai in shadow.
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Phil just looks plain boring and small
At this point he just riding his name
Roelly looks wide and big
Wolf depleted..
Kai better than phil
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still think Phil has the edge.... size, shape, separation.
hard to compare in that pic though. Need fdb and side tri shots as well.
Agree, Phil has deeper cuts, that's his strong point. Only Kai has the same quality, if(!) he brings the conditioning.
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Phil just looks plain boring and small
At this point he just riding his name
Roelly looks wide and big
Wolf depleted..
Kai better than phil
Where I can sign?
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Phils nuthuggers will always find 10 reasons why cheath is better. fuck off. 8)
That's play-by-play from RX. Don't get so butt hurt just because your boy Kai isn't getting that #1 spot.
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That's play-by-play from RX. Don't get so butt hurt just because your boy Kai isn't getting that #1 spot.
I know, it wasnt directed at you. ;)
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If Kai was this conditioned at the prejudging at O it would had been much more interesting Mr. O.
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I know, it wasnt directed at you. ;)
LOL...ok my bad.
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I don't know what you people are looking at who think Kai is better than Phil
Certainly not Kais gigantic gut and synthol biceps
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heath getting murdered from the back. Mr. O getting murdered from the back. We are not used to this from the past.
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arnold is not in these comparrisons
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heath getting murdered from the back. Mr. O getting murdered from the back. We are not used to this from the past.
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it would help if they were both hitting the shot and one wasn't covered in the shadows.
Kais lack of traps makes him look deformed.
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maybe he doesnt believes in shrugs for mass
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maybe he doesnt believes in shrugs for mass
I'm thinking he has bobbed his head on so many penii he has nerve damage
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I'm thinking he has bobbed his head on so many penii he has nerve damage
Kawklash.
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haha too many reps. so no mass haha
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Team Roelly
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Phil Cheath gets murdered in each pose by everyone. With the exception for side poses maybe.
He is completely lost in that lineup. It's a shame to have such "champ".
Kais FDB looks amazing. Funnily enough his arms are definetely bigger than Phil's 'All arms' Cheath.
Roelly legs from the back are outstanding, he's improved a lot.
Shawn Rhoden is embodiment of bodybuilding - no gut, proportioned, great build from all angles.
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6th Place - Roelly Winklaar - $2500
5th Place- Victor Martinez - $5000
4th Place - Shawn Rhoden - $12,500
3rd Place - Dennis Wolf - $15,000
2nd Place - Kai Greene - $25,000
1st place - Phil Heath
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it would help if they were both hitting the shot and one wasn't covered in the shadows.
Kais lack of traps makes him look deformed.
also, from what I see, Kai, Roelly and even Wolf have better bicep peaks from the back than Phil.
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6th Place - Roelly Winklaar - $2500
5th Place- Victor Martinez - $5000
4th Place - Shawn Rhoden - $12,500
3rd Place - Dennis Wolf - $15,000
2nd Place - Kai Greene - $25,000
1st place - Phil Heath
Heat worst Mr O in history Greene and Wolf had him beat. A clown ::)
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How the fuck deformed Victor places above Roelly? Vic should retire already his gut is too big that's it he is done
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Damn, did Wolf have his calves removed as a small child?
How the fuck do you take all those drugs, and train that many hours and still not show something from the front?
I'd fuckin' go the gym and train nothing but calves for a year. As Park used to recommend to Arnold, go very heavy (up to 1,000 lbs).
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Damn, did Wolf have his calves removed as a small child?
How the fuck do you take all those drugs, and train that many hours and still not show something from the front?
I'd fuckin' go the gym and train nothing but calves for a year. As Park used to recommend to Arnold, go very heavy (up to 1,000 lbs).
Genes rule. Wolf's left calf smaller than the right whats up with that to me means he is not training them equally just trying to get by. I had stick's for calves once but never gave up. Maybe he thinks he can get by but say he had 18 inch calves I think that would make the difference placings. Arnold understood his calves were his weak factor and went to work.
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Damn, did Wolf have his calves removed as a small child?
How the fuck do you take all those drugs, and train that many hours and still not show something from the front?
I'd fuckin' go the gym and train nothing but calves for a year. As Park used to recommend to Arnold, go very heavy (up to 1,000 lbs).
You can't train something that you hardly have. Can we stop with this "Dennis has no calves" thing and move on? Thanks
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I think wolf saw ronnie win with twigs, so he decided fuck it, who needs calves?
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I believe wolf left calf is torn like Ronnie's was later in his career. Woods left calf was not always like that I believe
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I think wolf saw ronnie win with twigs, so he decided fuck it, who needs calves?
compared To Ronnie, Wolf has calves of a stork...
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Arnold in his sixty's still crushing heat in those pics as a child look at heat he is in awe.
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I start to believe that they will never give it to Kai no matter what.
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Someone should get fired for that horrible inconsistent lighting. Seriously you cant judge bbing without good lighting.
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Someone should get fired for that horrible inconsistent lighting. Seriously you cant judge bbing without good lighting.
This is the IFBB, since when did they have to actually see the compeitors to judge them?
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had kai/wolf to fight for 1-2 spot.
phil really was dominated here.
but after all the judges saw it all different.
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Awesome picture!
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Someone should get fired for that horrible inconsistent lighting. Seriously you cant judge bbing without good lighting.
That's because they are bunch of amateurs. I bet someone will tell that organizers tried to recreate the atmospere of the 70's with that shitty lighting.
IFBB should catch a break from sucking cocks and release some technical requirements for the venues hosting their events.
You need to have a good lighting (illuminance) for photographers and HD television, that's so fucking obvious, look at FIFA, IOC, various international federations - they all pay attention how their product (sport) looks and care to present it as good as possible.
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I start to believe that they will never give it to Kai no matter what.
X100 I sometimes feel sorry for him because he bleeds bodybuilding, but he is the author of his own destruction. does he really think in this day that his not so private life is not out there for every judge to see? How about getting rid of that ridiculous pony tail and stop doing those stupid standing on your head splits. They are definitely uncomfortable to watch. Fuck, I think he would prefer to have a pole out there to twirl around!
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heath getting murdered from the back. Mr. O getting murdered from the back. We are not used to this from the past.
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I like how angles play into this. Because it looks like Roelly is several inches taller than Phil, When Roelly is 5'8
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I like how angles play into this. Because it looks like Roelly is several inches taller than Phil, When Roelly is 5'8
Roelly wishes he was 5'8, saw him last yr and no more than 5'7
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Video of the Top 3
http://rxmuscle.com/2013-01-11-01-49-59/international-contest-coverage/9459-rx-exclusive-arnold-classic-europe-wolf-greene-heath-at-prejudging.html
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Never sae the hype I victor... dude has a strange structure.
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Roelly wishes he was 5'8, saw him last yr and no more than 5'7
yeah, my bad, I was going from Memory, because I remember the pic of him and Dex, either right before he got his Pro card or right after, and they were almost the same height. This was around 2008, 2009. And Dex had told him that he was going to do well in the Pros (something along those lines).
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Horrible lighting.......
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Victors stomach is always distended,I don't know what the fuck happened to him? I guess it's GH usage over the years!
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Victors stomach is always distended,I don't know what the fuck happened to him? I guess it's GH usage over the years!
More like upped the insulin usage and carbed up, could be wrong though
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Kai definitely putting something in those bi's, along with the grapefruit and towel, can't be helping his cause!
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Kai definitely putting something in those bi's, along with the grapefruit and towel, can't be helping his cause!
Those childish Kai comments are getting old, time to move on..
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one thing is clear though. Kai looks pregnant. Thats just unacceptable. He should place dead last for that.
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Those childish Kai comments are getting old, time to move on..
Same can be said about Phil too
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Same can be said about Phil too
You're right..
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I am tired of of kai's ugly face grimaces gets old.
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You can't train something that you hardly have. Can we stop with this "Dennis has no calves" thing and move on? Thanks
Those childish Kai comments are getting old, time to move on..
Okay, Dropping Plates. We'll move on....
But note that Wolf's lack of calf development and Kai's love of grapefruit pretty much define the PRIMARY reasons why each cannot move to the Number One position.
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Those childish Kai comments are getting old, time to move on..
How is that childish? Just stating what lot's of people including the judges are probably thinking! Phil is beating Kai in every show! Until that changes have to assume there is some truth to it!
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How is that childish? Just stating what lot's of people including the judges are probably thinking! Phil is beating Kai in every show! Until that changes have to assume there is some truth to it!
If you're even questioning this, then maybe this message is too late for you, but to give you a hint: what about thinking and speaking for yourself, no matter what others think?
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Okay, Dropping Plates. We'll move on....
But note that Wolf's lack of calf development and Kai's love of grapefruit pretty much define the PRIMARY reasons why each cannot move to the Number One position.
LOL, do you expect a serious response? Well ok, Dennis can't help it that he isn't blessed with Fankhouser calves (just like Phil with his... that's right..), no matter how hard he trains them. This will cost him points, and I can understand that. Regarding Kai, what he does besides competing should have nothing to do with his placings. Maybe some folks here forgot the true meaning of bodybuilding, namely that it's all about the human physique and nothing else.
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LOL, do you expect a serious response? Well ok, Dennis can't help it that he isn't blessed with Fankhouser calves (just like Phil with his... that's right..), no matter how hard he trains them. This will cost him points, and I can understand that. Regarding Kai, what he does besides competing should have nothing to do with his placings. Maybe some folks here forgot the true meaning of bodybuilding, namely that it's all about the human physique and nothing else.
And that's called an agenda....
Judging a bodybuilding contest is not quite the same as judging two porterhouse steaks.
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And that's called an agenda....
Judging a bodybuilding contest is not quite the same as judging two porterhouse steaks.
Correct, 'an agenda' and many people seem to accept this, as long as their favorite BBers will not be disadvantaged :-\
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the winner
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LOL, do you expect a serious response? Well ok, Dennis can't help it that he isn't blessed with Fankhouser calves (just like Phil with his... that's right..), no matter how hard he trains them. This will cost him points, and I can understand that. Regarding Kai, what he does besides competing should have nothing to do with his placings. Maybe some folks here forgot the true meaning of bodybuilding, namely that it's all about the human physique and nothing else.
I totally agree it should be based totally on the physique, but we all know it is not! There will always be politics an agendas involved! There was back when Arnold won in 1980 and it will continue! I personally could care less about Kai's past!
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heath getting murdered from the back. Mr. O getting murdered from the back. We are not used to this from the past.
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You can't tell shit from this picture.
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Roelly has the best arms in bodybuilding, unmatched by anyone IMO. He's looking the best we've seen him and yet he can still improve drastically. Scary thought.
Phil looks good but nothing springs out and says "holy shit, Mr O!" about him here. His lack of clavicle width is clearly evident here, almost to the point of embarrassment. If Rhoden had a half decent back he would be pretty close to unstoppable in these line ups, Wolf is cashing in on a great look for him right now.
Kai looks great but his stomach is huge, its just not working for him right now. Dex could have won this show.
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Wolf looked flat. what are you guys making a fuss about?
Kai has a horrendous gut.
Roelly got robbed. Victor was anonymous on that stage, WTF!
Am I the only one who thinks Phil is losing his gut? guy cant even show six abs any more ???
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the winner
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Arnold looking wider then Heath. WTF!
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Arnold looking wider then Heath. WTF!
Arnold is wider than heath.
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Well, Phil can say that he has won an Arnold over Kai, but it wasn't the Arnold Classic...
Also, 20 yrs...have things progressed?
2013
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1993
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Rhoden Flexatron 2013
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Flex 1993 Arnold
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20 yrs...have things progressed
Yes, bigger bellys. Kai is a master at hiding his. Phil's was poking out a tad today. Both Dennis and Roelly looked better.
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Well, Phil can say that he has won an Arnold over Kai, but it wasn't the Arnold Classic...
Also, 20 yrs...have things progressed?
2013
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1993
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Rhoden Flexatron 2013
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Flex 1993 Arnold
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good point, but to be fair Flex at 93 Arnold was one of the greatest physiques displayed on a BB stage ever. Only better Arnold Classic physique was Ronnie in 01, and Flex at the 93 Arnold would beat most Mr. Olympia physiques since then as well.
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Nothing has changed.
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Yes, bigger bellys. Kai is a master at hiding his. Phil's was poking out a tad today. Both Dennis and Roelly looked better.
Notice the NBC Sports on Arnold's sports coat? Yeah, I doubt they would cover anything bbing related now.
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good point, but to be fair Flex at 93 Arnold was one of the greatest physiques displayed on a BB stage ever. Only better Arnold Classic physique was Ronnie in 01, and Flex at the 93 Arnold would beat most Mr. Olympia physiques since then as well.
Flex at the 98 Arnold was even better!
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Wolf left calf is concave
his right calf is flat not quite convex
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6th Place - Roelly Winklaar - $2500
5th Place- Victor Martinez - $5000
4th Place - Shawn Rhoden - $12,500
3rd Place - Dennis Wolf - $15,000
2nd Place - Kai Greene - $25,000
1st place - Phil Heath
Wow phil heath won the competition and got no money he must be really pissed.
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:D ;D