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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: pumpster on December 31, 2005, 06:25:42 PM
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Congrats, you blew it. Now get used to current accomodations-they're actually nicer than your future residences.
You had enough time & money to get out of the country.
Could've been toasting New Years' from Athens or Bangkok, tanned & rested, looking vaguely like this..
Instead if you're lucky they'll let you post a message here in '06.
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craiggers and kelly
i hope you continue to have a rotten nightmare of a pathetic existence.
you two are worse that cockroaches. tonight, we're all going out. so you two stay in your cells and feel sorry for yourselfs. think alot about hell because both of you are going there.
big DB
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You had enough time and money to get out of the country.
Yeah, but they're really dumb criminals. ;D
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Picture me Rollin.......
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Picture me Rollin.......
WTF are you on??
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Weren't Craig & Kelly just in one of Shawn's Muscle Camps?
Maybe he's so happy about this because he hasn't paid them yet. ;)
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i cant imagine going anywhere with those two sleaze balls
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i cant imagine going anywhere with those two sleaze balls
Unless you're hoping to get invited to one of their "swinger parties". ::)
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LOL i'm much too refined ::)
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Happy New Year Craig And Kelly, wwwwwate a Minuit you can't read this your in jail.
My bad
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Happy New Year Craig And Kelly, wwwwwate a Minuit you can't read this your in jail.
My bad
r u sure ?
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Ah no.
They were not in my Muscle Camp in Dubai, one of there scheduled last appearances before going Buck Wild then AWOL. :o
Actually, that particular camp was canceled when one of the pormoters over there had back Surgery in September.
Peace,
S. Ray
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By all accounts they were ok to have at events anyway so lets not go bending the truth like they were ruthless potential murderers when you met them because its all bullshit.
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Apparently Craig is available for guest posing:
http://www.craigtitus.com/
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craiggers and kelly
i hope you continue to have a rotten nightmare of a pathetic existence.
you two are worse that cockroaches. tonight, we're all going out. so you two stay in your cells and feel sorry for yourselfs. think alot about hell because both of you are going there.
big DB
Tragic New Year=All you can hope for is to die in your sleep
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:P I wonder if he'll be able to participate in a work release program and guest pose. Maybe at other prisons
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:P I wonder if he'll be able to participate in a work release program and guest pose. Maybe at other prisons
Or a muscle camp coming to your area
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Craig needs to talk to his client Vince Neil. He killed someone and walked for it.
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Craig needs to talk to his client Vince Neil. He killed someone and walked for it.
Really? No wonder he chose Craig as a trainer. "Birds of a feather" and all that...
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Killing via drunk driving is much more acceptable. ::)
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Killing via drunk driving is much more acceptable. ::)
i'm unfamiliar with the case
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a little blurb on it:
Rocker VINCE NEIL is still haunted by the car crash in which pal RAZZLE was killed and he confesses the prison term he served for his part in the accident wasn't tough enough.
The MOTLEY CRUE star spent 30 days in jail and was fined $2.5 million (GBP1.3 million) for driving drunk in the 1984 car crash, which cost his passenger, HANOI ROCKS star Razzle his life.
But he insists he should have been more severely punished, and now feels he literally got away with murder.
He tells BLENDER magazine, "I wrote a $2.5 million cheque for vehicular manslaughter when Razzle died.
"I should have gone to prison. I definitely deserved to go to prison. But I did 30 days in jail and got laid and drank beer, because that's the power of cash. That's f**ked up.
"It's changed now. But you're 20-years-old and you've got a million dollars in your pocket and drugs and drink and women and fame and there are lawyers to protect you. We just thought we could do anything."
2.5 million. That can't be right. There is not a statute on the books that would bring that fine. Now if it was a civil case brought by the family, that's different.
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Tragic New Year=All you can hope for is to die in your sleep
thanks christer ! lol
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further googling (1 person died and 2 were disabled) :
In July of 1986, Los Angeles County Superier Court Judge Edward Hinz, Jr. sentenced Vince with a 30 day jail term, 5 years probation and $2.6 million in restitution to the victims of the crash and 200 hours of community service. Vince got out of jail in 20 days for good behavior.
wow. I don't remember 2 being disabled. Were they in Vince's car also. It was a one car crash wasn't it?
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wow. I don't remember 2 being disabled. Were they in Vince's car also. It was a one car crash wasn't it?
i have the Crue dvd. He hit another car. I think one of them was paralyzed.
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Vincent Neil Wharton, 23, lead singer for the heavy-metal band, Mötley Crüe, was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence of alcohol in connection with a December 8, 1984 auto accident that left one man dead and a young couple injured. Wharton's blood alcohol level was .17, well above the legal limit of .10, when his car skidded across the median strip on The Esplanade and rammed into a oncoming car, a spokesman for Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Ira Reiner said, Nicholas Dingley (aka Razzle), a passenger in Wharton's car and the drummer for the rock band Hanoi Rocks, died in the crash."
He did get off light didn't he. At least he knows he got off easy and hasn't gone through life blaming someone else.
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Through futuristic computer technology this is what Craig will look like in just 2 years
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neil also had to go to schools and do like over 100 speeches on the dangers of drunk drivin etc
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Through futuristic computer technology this is what Craig will look like in just 2 years
M A N you are too much - you sick and twisted MF.
I G E T it though - more scary
;D
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Or a muscle camp coming to your area
LOL...Classic!
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Or a muscle camp coming to your area
best poster ever. not many got it i dont think
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Through futuristic computer technology this is what Craig will look like in just 2 years
lmao ;D
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Picture me Rollin.......
What an incredibly Christian and Sportsman-like attitude, Shawn! >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What an incredibly Christian and Sportsman-like attitude, Shawn! >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
SUCKMY,
You are right.
Shawn must be the ultimate one-upper in real life. Always trying to outdo family members and friends in non-competitive activities.
Good thing he never won an Olympia. We'd never hear the end of it.
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SUCKMY,
You are right.
Shawn must be the ultimate one-upper in real life. Always trying to outdo family members and friends in non-competitive activities.
Good thing he never won an Olympia. We'd never hear the end of it.
When psychiatrist Robert Hare wrote his book:"Without Conscience:The Psychopaths Among Us", I'm sure he had Shawn, or someone very similar to him in mind. ;D :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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SUCKMY,
You are right.
Shawn must be the ultimate one-upper in real life. Always trying to outdo family members and friends in non-competitive activities.
Good thing he never won an Olympia. We'd never hear the end of it.
LOL
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LOL
Don't laugh, man. You know we speak the truth. Someone has to expose Ray, for what he truly is.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You know whats funny is how this is a Titus Board yet the topics in more than one thread is about Shawn Ray or they are talking about him. And he is the one that instigated it. I can see where he is getting jealous over the attention towards Craig. You can tell that he is annoyed that no one was talking about him lately. That is why he has started to come on here more.
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Shawn Ray is not a a psychopath...narcissisti c perhaps, yes. But he does draw the line whereas Craig does not have any lines or boundaries he won't cross...that is very much part of the psychopathic strcuture.
See how many psychopathic traits Craig has by going down Dr. Hare's Psychopathic Trait Checklist:
The Hare PCL-R contains two parts, a semi-structured interview and a review of the subject's file records and history. During the evaluation, the clinician scores 20 items that measure central elements of the psychopathic character. The items cover the nature of the subject's interpersonal relationships; his or her affective or emotional involvement; responses to other people and to situations; evidence of social deviance; and lifestyle. The material thus covers two key aspects that help define the psychopath: selfish and unfeeling victimization of other people, and an unstable and antisocial lifestyle.
The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:
glib and superficial charm................... .....................YES
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self.......YES
need for stimulation............. ........................ ................YES
pathological lying................... ........................ ..............YES
cunning and manipulativeness........ ........................ .....YES
lack of remorse or guilt................... ........................ ......YES
shallow affect(superficial emotional responsiveness)...YES
callousness and lack of empathy................. .................YES
parasitic lifestyle............... ........................ ....................YES
poor behavioral controls................ ........................ .......YES
sexual promiscuity............. ........................ ...................YES
early behavior problems................ ........................ .......N/A
lack of realistic long-term goals................... .................YES
impulsivity............. ........................ ........................ .......YES
irresponsibility........ ........................ ........................ ......YES
failure to accept responsibility for own actions............YES
many short-term marital relationships........... ..............YES
juvenile delinquency............. ........................ ...............N/A
criminal versatility............. ........................ ...................YES
Scary ain't it??
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Shawn Ray is not a a psychopath...narcissisti c perhaps, yes. But he does draw the line whereas Craig does not have any lines or boundaries he won't cross...that is very much part of the psychopathic strcuture.
See how many psychopathic traits Craig has by going down Dr. Hare's Psychopathic Trait Checklist:
The Hare PCL-R contains two parts, a semi-structured interview and a review of the subject's file records and history. During the evaluation, the clinician scores 20 items that measure central elements of the psychopathic character. The items cover the nature of the subject's interpersonal relationships; his or her affective or emotional involvement; responses to other people and to situations; evidence of social deviance; and lifestyle. The material thus covers two key aspects that help define the psychopath: selfish and unfeeling victimization of other people, and an unstable and antisocial lifestyle.
The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:
glib and superficial charm................... .....................YES
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self.......YES
need for stimulation............. ........................ ................YES
pathological lying................... ........................ ..............YES
cunning and manipulativeness........ ........................ .....YES
lack of remorse or guilt................... ........................ ......YES
shallow affect(superficial emotional responsiveness)...YES
callousness and lack of empathy................. .................YES
parasitic lifestyle............... ........................ ....................YES
poor behavioral controls................ ........................ .......YES
sexual promiscuity............. ........................ ...................YES
early behavior problems................ ........................ .......N/A
lack of realistic long-term goals................... .................YES
impulsivity............. ........................ ........................ .......YES
irresponsibility........ ........................ ........................ ......YES
failure to accept responsibility for own actions............YES
many short-term marital relationships........... ..............YES
juvenile delinquency............. ........................ ...............N/A
criminal versatility............. ........................ ...................YES
Scary ain't it??
If you go carefully through that list, my friend, you'll see that Shawn fullfils fourteen of those required traits. Sorry, but he is a sociopath, although one who's sociopathy is controlled by a capacity for rationality. Whcih makes him even scarier! :o :o :o :o
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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If you go carefully through that list, my friend, you'll see that Shawn fullfils fourteen of those required traits. Sorry, but he is a sociopath, although one who's sociopathy is controlled by a capacity for rationality. Whcih makes him even scarier! :o :o :o :o
A sociopath who is controlled by rational thinking is much less likely to cross the line, but much more likely to get away with it on those rare occasions when he does.
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A sociopath who is controlled by rational thinking is much less likely to cross the line, but much more likely to get away with it on those rare occasions when he does.
Exactly! You just agreed with me. ::)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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hell...maybe half the damn IFBB pro lineup display at least mild psychopathic behavior
I can think of a few.....more than a few really
8)
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hell...maybe half the damn IFBB pro lineup display at least mild psychopathic behavior
I can think of a few.....more than a few really
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"Mild"?! My friend, with the sole exception of homicide, there isn't a crime which pro bodybuilders do not commit with regularity. These include cheating in competitions, abusing controlled substances, doing false advertisement, prostituting themselves("gay for pay"), leaching off others, etc. Even when it comes to murder, bodybuilders are FAR overrepresented, in relation to the rest of the population. Currently, there are two bodybuilders on death row(Bertil Fox and a former Georgia Champion, who I forgot the name), two others serving life terms(former friends of Kevin Levrone. I also forgot their names), besides Titus and Kelly. Do I need to go any further?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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no...you just about covered it ;)
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...with the sole exception of homicide, there isn't a crime which pro bodybuilders do not commit with regularity.
Terrorism?
Rape?
Espionage?
I think you're overstating it a little.
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Terrorism?
Rape?
Espionage?
I think you're overstating it a little.
Several fitness chicks have already accused bodybuilders of rape, and I consider King Kamali, stepping onstage in a medieval outfit with a giant helmet, to be an act of terrorism.
SUCKMYMUSCLE