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Link between fatty foods and heart disease 'a myth'; fats are actually good for you says UK cardiologist
October 24, 2013
SATURATED fats in foods like butter, cheese and red meat don't cause heart disease and may be good for you, a British cardiologist says.
Decades of medical advice urging people to fight heart disease by cutting out fatty foods is wrong, says British cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra, who has set out to "bust the myth of the role of saturated fat in heart disease."
Unprocessed fatty foods like butter and eggs have been "demonised" since the 1970s, but there is no scientific link showing they cause heart disease, he writes in the British Medical Journal.
Instead, they are actually good for you, and eating a high fat, low carbohydrate died has been show as the best way to lose weight, he says.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/link-between-fatty-foods-and-heart-disease-a-myth-fats-are-actually-good-for-you-says-uk-cardiologist/story-fneuzkvr-1226745633300
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Of course a guy named Bacon posted this.
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duh
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I believe TMAO will be the smoking gun of heart disease/attacks
Gut Bacteria Byproduct Predicts Heart Attack and Stroke
Apr. 24, 2013 — A microbial byproduct of intestinal bacteria contributes to heart disease and serves as an accurate screening tool for predicting future risks of heart attack, stroke and death in persons not otherwise identified by traditional risk factors and blood tests, according to Cleveland Clinic research published today in The New England Journal of Medicine.
The research team was led by Stanley Hazen, M.D., Ph.D., Vice Chair of Translational Research, Chair of the Department of Cellular and Molecular Medicine for the Lerner Research Institute and section head of Preventive Cardiology & Rehabilitation in the Miller Family Heart and Vascular Institute at Cleveland Clinic, and W.H. Wilson Tang, M.D., Department of Cardiovascular Medicine in the Miller Family Heart and Vascular Institute and Lerner Research Institute.
The current study is an extension of Dr. Hazen's previous work, in which he found that a chemical byproduct called trimethylamine N-oxide (TMAO) is produced when intestinal bacteria digest the nutrient phosphatidylcholine, commonly known as lecithin. The prior research showed that TMAO levels in the blood were associated with heart disease. Dr. Hazen and colleagues have now confirmed that gut flora are essential in forming TMAO in humans and demonstrated a relationship between TMAO levels and future cardiac events like heart attack, stroke, and death -- even in those with no prior evidence of cardiac disease risk.
To demonstrate the role of gut flora in forming TMAO, human subjects were asked to eat two hard-boiled eggs (a common dietary source of lecithin) and a capsule of labeled lecithin (as a tracer). After ingestion, TMAO levels in the blood increased. However, when these same subjects were given a brief course of broad-spectrum antibiotics to suppress their gut flora, their TMAO levels were suppressed, and no additional TMAO was formed, even after ingesting lecithin. These results demonstrated that the intestinal bacteria are essential for the formation of TMAO.
In the second phase of the study, the researchers measured TMAO levels in a large, independent, clinical cohort -- consisting of more than 4,000 adults undergoing cardiac evaluation at Cleveland Clinic -- over a three-year follow-up period. They found that higher TMAO blood levels were associated with higher future risks of death and nonfatal heart attack or stroke over the ensuing three-year period, independent of other risk factors and blood test results. These results complement those of another recent study of Dr. Hazen's linking gut flora metabolism of a structurally similar nutrient found in animal products, carnitine, to TMAO production and heart attack risk.
"Heart disease remains the No. 1 killer, and while we know how to reduce cholesterol, treat blood pressure, and reduce cardiac risks through diet and other interventions, a substantial residual risk still remains," Dr. Hazen said. "We need to find new pathways to attack heart disease, and these findings strongly suggest that further research into the involvement of gut microbiome in the development of cardiovascular disease could lead to new avenues of prevention and treatment of heart disease."
Dr. Hazen further suggested, "These studies show that measuring blood levels of TMAO could serve as a powerful tool for predicting future cardiovascular risk, even for those without known risk factors. More studies are needed to confirm that TMAO testing, like cholesterol, triglyceride or glucose levels, might help guide physicians in providing individualized nutritional recommendations for preventing cardiovascular disease. Our goal is not to suggest dietary restrictions of entire food groups. Eggs, meat and other animal products are an integral part of most individuals' diets. Our work shows, however, that when digesting these foods, gut flora can generate a chemical mediator, TMAO, that may contribute to cardiovascular disease."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424185211.htm
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I believe TMAO will be the smoking gun of heart disease/attacks
Gut Bacteria Byproduct Predicts Heart Attack and Stroke
Apr. 24, 2013 — A microbial byproduct of intestinal bacteria contributes to heart disease and serves as an accurate screening tool for predicting future risks of heart attack, stroke and death in persons not otherwise identified by traditional risk factors and blood tests, according to Cleveland Clinic research published today in The New England Journal of Medicine.
The research team was led by Stanley Hazen, M.D., Ph.D., Vice Chair of Translational Research, Chair of the Department of Cellular and Molecular Medicine for the Lerner Research Institute and section head of Preventive Cardiology & Rehabilitation in the Miller Family Heart and Vascular Institute at Cleveland Clinic, and W.H. Wilson Tang, M.D., Department of Cardiovascular Medicine in the Miller Family Heart and Vascular Institute and Lerner Research Institute.
The current study is an extension of Dr. Hazen's previous work, in which he found that a chemical byproduct called trimethylamine N-oxide (TMAO) is produced when intestinal bacteria digest the nutrient phosphatidylcholine, commonly known as lecithin. The prior research showed that TMAO levels in the blood were associated with heart disease. Dr. Hazen and colleagues have now confirmed that gut flora are essential in forming TMAO in humans and demonstrated a relationship between TMAO levels and future cardiac events like heart attack, stroke, and death -- even in those with no prior evidence of cardiac disease risk.
To demonstrate the role of gut flora in forming TMAO, human subjects were asked to eat two hard-boiled eggs (a common dietary source of lecithin) and a capsule of labeled lecithin (as a tracer). After ingestion, TMAO levels in the blood increased. However, when these same subjects were given a brief course of broad-spectrum antibiotics to suppress their gut flora, their TMAO levels were suppressed, and no additional TMAO was formed, even after ingesting lecithin. These results demonstrated that the intestinal bacteria are essential for the formation of TMAO.
In the second phase of the study, the researchers measured TMAO levels in a large, independent, clinical cohort -- consisting of more than 4,000 adults undergoing cardiac evaluation at Cleveland Clinic -- over a three-year follow-up period. They found that higher TMAO blood levels were associated with higher future risks of death and nonfatal heart attack or stroke over the ensuing three-year period, independent of other risk factors and blood test results. These results complement those of another recent study of Dr. Hazen's linking gut flora metabolism of a structurally similar nutrient found in animal products, carnitine, to TMAO production and heart attack risk.
"Heart disease remains the No. 1 killer, and while we know how to reduce cholesterol, treat blood pressure, and reduce cardiac risks through diet and other interventions, a substantial residual risk still remains," Dr. Hazen said. "We need to find new pathways to attack heart disease, and these findings strongly suggest that further research into the involvement of gut microbiome in the development of cardiovascular disease could lead to new avenues of prevention and treatment of heart disease."
Dr. Hazen further suggested, "These studies show that measuring blood levels of TMAO could serve as a powerful tool for predicting future cardiovascular risk, even for those without known risk factors. More studies are needed to confirm that TMAO testing, like cholesterol, triglyceride or glucose levels, might help guide physicians in providing individualized nutritional recommendations for preventing cardiovascular disease. Our goal is not to suggest dietary restrictions of entire food groups. Eggs, meat and other animal products are an integral part of most individuals' diets. Our work shows, however, that when digesting these foods, gut flora can generate a chemical mediator, TMAO, that may contribute to cardiovascular disease."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424185211.htm
yes good ole heme-iron probably switches on the good ol TMAO enzyme
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yes good ole heme-iron probably switches on the good ol TMAO enzyme
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yes good ole heme-iron probably switches on the good ol TMAO enzyme
Agreed
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duh
X2.
Sugar is the killer.
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Link between fatty foods and heart disease 'a myth'; fats are actually good for you says UK cardiologist
October 24, 2013
SATURATED fats in foods like butter, cheese and red meat don't cause heart disease and may be good for you, a British cardiologist says.
Decades of medical advice urging people to fight heart disease by cutting out fatty foods is wrong, says British cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra, who has set out to "bust the myth of the role of saturated fat in heart disease."
Unprocessed fatty foods like butter and eggs have been "demonised" since the 1970s, but there is no scientific link showing they cause heart disease, he writes in the British Medical Journal.
Instead, they are actually good for you, and eating a high fat, low carbohydrate died has been show as the best way to lose weight, he says.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/link-between-fatty-foods-and-heart-disease-a-myth-fats-are-actually-good-for-you-says-uk-cardiologist/story-fneuzkvr-1226745633300
There is nothing new in this theory. Dr. Robert Akins made a career (and a ton of money) from this diet. If you've never tried the Adkins diet, you have no idea how difficult it is to stick to. However, if you stick to it, it works.
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Link between fatty foods and heart disease 'a myth'; fats are actually good for you says UK cardiologist
October 24, 2013
SATURATED fats in foods like butter, cheese and red meat don't cause heart disease and may be good for you, a British cardiologist says.
Decades of medical advice urging people to fight heart disease by cutting out fatty foods is wrong, says British cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra, who has set out to "bust the myth of the role of saturated fat in heart disease."
Unprocessed fatty foods like butter and eggs have been "demonised" since the 1970s, but there is no scientific link showing they cause heart disease, he writes in the British Medical Journal.
Instead, they are actually good for you, and eating a high fat, low carbohydrate died has been show as the best way to lose weight, he says.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/link-between-fatty-foods-and-heart-disease-a-myth-fats-are-actually-good-for-you-says-uk-cardiologist/story-fneuzkvr-1226745633300
Good shit.
This is old news but the public is still very uninformed on it.
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Of course a guy named Bacon posted this.
LOL
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LOL
I love eating bacon....not the poster, the food.
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X2.
Sugar is the killer.
that's somewhat true, but bad genetics is the real killer
if you have genetics for longevity then you're good to go
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I love eating bacon....not the poster, the food.
We know what you really mean thsweetie!! :-*
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Roger Bacon and his boy - Hammond Egger...
(http://www.threestooges.net/albums/mls/141.jpg)
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I love eating bacon....not the poster, the food.
What you do behind closed doors is none of my business pal.
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Of course a guy named Bacon posted this.
Everytime I see his name, I get hungry and want bacon.
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Roger Bacon and his boy - Hammond Egger...
(http://www.threestooges.net/albums/mls/141.jpg)
Someone else posted this!!! ROFL...
You've got a gimmick account!!!!!!!!!!!
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if there's one person I trust, it's a UK cardiologist.
Those UK dentists, not so much.
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Someone else posted this!!! ROFL...
You've got a gimmick account!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope, not a gimmick, been here for 9 years now...
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What you do behind closed doors is none of my business pal.
I even do it in public, like at restaurants. ;D
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Actually, consuming fatty foods is bad when you're consuming them with high glucose levels. high carbs, and high fat is a killer. low carbs and high fat is fine though. It's the combining high fat with high carbs that's the killer.
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Actually, consuming fatty foods is bad when you consuming them with high glucose levels. high carbs, and high fat is a killer. low carbs and high fat is fine though. It's the combining high fat with high carbs that's the killer.
I agree with this. Trans fat is bad as well.
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I even do it in public, like at restaurants. ;D
You sick bastard >:(
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Stopped listening to these 'experts' years ago. Every decade or two they do a 180 and recommend the exact opposite of what they've been telling you to eat to be healthy.
Swedish government are the first to officially recommend higher fat/lower carb.
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Actually, consuming fatty foods is bad when you consuming them with high glucose levels. high carbs, and high fat is a killer. low carbs and high fat is fine though. It's the combining high fat with high carbs that's the killer.
Which is why it is not advised one eat fruit with meat.
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well, whatever.
you can bet that this macro combo is not good for the heart:
sugar with saturated fats together.
and beeing a fatso also doesn thelp.
ofc fat alone (which fat btw?) wont do much,
carbs alone wont do much, bit sugar is ok.
but the combos of the above will do you in.
who cares, some idiots with the mind infantiles will read such articles and think its ok to eat fats and then theyll have them with sugary calories.
natural selection.
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well, whatever.
you can bet that this macro combo is not good for the heart:
sugar with saturated fats together.
and beeing a fatso also doesn thelp.
ofc fat alone (which fat btw?) wont do much,
carbs alone wont do much, bit sugar is ok.
but the combos of the above will do you in.
who cares, some idiots with the mind infantiles will read such articles and think its ok to eat fats and then theyll have them with sugary calories.
natural selection.
There is a good reason why people gravitate to fats and sugars and that is because they generally taste good. Unfortunately, tasting good doesn't mean the food is good for you. Most diets today suggest cutting out fats. A lot of people when doing this substitute sugars which are actually worse for you than fats. Not only that processed diet foods are often higher in sugar while lower in fat. Take artificial creamers for example. They have little or sometimes no fat but are made with corn syrup.
Type II diabetics are ever more common and at younger and younger ages. Obesity is out of control. Just look around you. Many of these folks are on low fat diets in hopes of losing weight. Why isn't this working? Well, because it is bogus and because there is abundance all around us. Unfortunately, much of that abundance comes from processed foods which are high in sugars while low in fats.
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I can't see where HIGH fats are good for you. Even putting heart disease aside, saturated fats in excess are implicated in colon and stomach cancers, among other things. I think the lean protein then pile on the vegetables and high water content fruits is the best way to go.
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I can't see where HIGH fats are good for you. Even putting heart disease aside, saturated fats in excess are implicated in colon and stomach cancers, among other things. I think the lean protein then pile on the vegetables and high water content fruits is the best way to go.
You've made an assumption here. Nobody suggested eating foods high is saturated fats. There are plenty of good fats one can eat. As you say protein from (I assume you mean lean meats) in moderation are fine. Vegetables offer not only additional protein but are high in fiber which is often ignored in our diets. Whole fruits are good when not consumed at the same time one eats meat. Fruit juices should be taken in moderation.
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X2.
Sugar is the killer.
and trans fat