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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: texasRUSH on January 02, 2006, 08:34:28 PM
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is ther eone above all others? or a combo like test and something else?
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is ther eone above all others? or a combo like test and something else?
The best thing for bulking is food, combined with more food, supplemented with food. All the gear in the world, no matter how good it is, is not worth shit without an adequate amount of food.
With that said best gear combo for the average user, for packing on size, size that can be maintained afterwards, assuming diet is in order:
test/deca
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The best thing for bulking is food, combined with more food, supplemented with food. All the gear in the world, no matter how good it is, is not worth shit without an adequate amount of food.
^Good advice.
Diet must be sufficient to even think about bulking.
Best Bulking AAS Combo: Test + Deca.
DIV
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He asked the best bulking JUICE ::)
Test-E and Anadrol
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^Good advice.
Diet must be sufficient to even think about bulking.
Best Bulking AAS Combo: Test + Deca.
DIV
add one anadrol 50 tab daily and your golden..
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replace the deca with equipoise and use one abomb per day as the cherry on the cake.. and be prepared to have to invest in a whole new wardrobe after 12 weeks.
the equipoise will negate the apetite surpressin effects of the oxy ... and the eq wont keep you shutdown post cycle so you wont struggle to keep your gains.
heres what id do,
test E 500mg per week
equipoise 600mg per week
abomb 50mg per day for 5/6 weeks
thats a big bastard of a cycle.
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if you are talking sheer bulk than i agree with the test+anadrol
and yes eat like a mother fucker and train til u drop
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Best Bulking AAS Combo: Test + Deca.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE A STEROID GURU? WELL A SELF PROCLAIMED ONE. YOU REALLY NEED TO HIT THE BOOKS KIDDO..............TEST+DECA THE BEST BULKING AAS COMBO? HAHAHAHA, OH BROTHER, YOU REALLY NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH "DIV".
BUT WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM SOMEONE WHO SAYS TREN IS 3 TIMES AS ANABOLIC AS TEST. A LITTLE AAS LESSON FOR YOU "DIV" TREN HAS A 500:500 RATIO TEST HAS A 100:100 RATIO.
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add one anadrol 50 tab daily and your golden..
Yup! That'd be my vote: test plus Abombs. Add deca or EQ if ya want.
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damn XXL, u better watch what u say to DIV, tren IS more anabolic bro, i think u need a lesson, in his opinion, test+deca is a great bulker, who is to say what is best, can u? i dont think so , and i have seen ur pics, there is no XXL in them.
muscle
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and i have seen ur pics, there is no XXL in them.
muscle
:D
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TEST+DECA THE BEST BULKING AAS COMBO? HAHAHAHA, OH BROTHER, YOU REALLY NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH "DIV".
And in your view XL, what would the best bulking combo be?
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damn XXL, u better watch what u say to DIV, tren IS more anabolic bro, i think u need a lesson, in his opinion, test+deca is a great bulker, who is to say what is best, can u? i dont think so , and i have seen ur pics, there is no XXL in them.
muscle
BRO YOU MISREAD WHAT I SAID, DIV SAID TREN IS 3 TIMES MORE ANABOLIC, ITS ACTUALLY 5 TIMES MORE ANABOLC, LIKE I SAID IT HAS A 500:500 RATIO, ITS 5 TIMES AS ANABOLIC AND 5 TIMES AS ANDROGENIC, TEST HAS A 100:100 RATIO.
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and i have seen ur pics, there is no XXL in them.
muscle
WHERE DID YOU SEE MY PICS ON HERE? IVE NEVER POSTED PICS OF ME ON HERE.
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in his opinion, test+deca is a great bulker
NO IN DIVS OPPINION TEST, DECA IS THE BEST BULKER
Best Bulking AAS Combo: Test + Deca.
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This guy clearly has a problem with DIV, and thats no big deal. But why bring it here? You guys can fight it out better on the gossip board.
We are very protective of keeping this board harmonious and positive to foster the best learning environment. Intelligent debate is welcome, but deprecating, and insulting remarks are not. Please XL do not play those games here.
Thank you.
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This guy clearly has a problem with DIV, and thats no big deal. But why bring it here? You guys can fight it out better on the gossip board.
We are very protective of keeping this board harmonious and positive to foster the best learning environment. Intelligent debate is welcome, but deprecating, and insulting remarks are not. Please XL do not play those games here.
Thank you.
RELAX MATE, IM MERELY SUGGESTNG DIV DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON AAS.
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RELAX MATE, IM MERELY SUGGESTNG DIV DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON AAS.
And that's cool, but your first post was written in an attacking way.
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RELAX MATE, IM MERELY SUGGESTNG DIV DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON AAS.
Luv is correct. The tone of your post was clear. You were not "merely suggesting," as you put it. That's just plain passive-aggressive behavior.
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RELAX MATE, IM MERELY SUGGESTNG DIV DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON AAS.
I'm not saying Div knows everything about steroids, but from what I've seen him post, he does know a lot.
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BRO YOU MISREAD WHAT I SAID, DIV SAID TREN IS 3 TIMES MORE ANABOLIC, ITS ACTUALLY 5 TIMES MORE ANABOLC, LIKE I SAID IT HAS A 500:500 RATIO, ITS 5 TIMES AS ANABOLIC AND 5 TIMES AS ANDROGENIC, TEST HAS A 100:100 RATIO.
Oh ya 1-test is 700% more anbolic than regular test...Anabolic/androgenic ratios mean nothing in the real world..
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Oh ya 1-test is 700% more anbolic than regular test...Anabolic/androgenic ratios mean nothing in the real world..
That's exactly what I was going to post (re: 1-Test).
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Oh ya 1-test is 700% more anbolic than regular test...Anabolic/androgenic ratios mean nothing in the real world..
DID I SAY IT MEANS ANYTHING?
I WAS MERELY POINTING OUT THAT DIV WAS WRONG IN SAYING TREN IS 3 TIMES AS ANABOLIC AS TEST.
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I'm not saying Div knows everything about steroids, but from what I've seen him post, he does know a lot.
"DIV" KNOWS BASIC SHIT, YES.
BUT SOME OF WHAT HE SAYS IS IGNORANT, AND FOR A SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERT ON AAS THAT'S UNNACCEPTABLE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO CLAIM YOU'RE AN EXPERT ON AAS THEN YOU BETTER BACK IT UP, SO FAR "DIV" HASNT, SO I FEEL THE NEED TO PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE.
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"DIV" KNOWS BASIC SHIT, YES.
BUT SOME OF WHAT HE SAYS IS IGNORANT, AND FOR A SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERT ON AAS THAT'S UNNACCEPTABLE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO CLAIM YOU'RE AN EXPERT ON AAS THEN YOU BETTER BACK IT UP, SO FAR "DIV" HASNT, SO I FEEL THE NEED TO PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point have I seen Division claim that he is a steroid expert.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point have I seen Division claim that he is a steroid expert.
I agree, I've never read anywhere on here where he has made a claim like that... but whether he has or not, he does seem to have a pretty good grasp on the anabolic world.
Be it DIV is an expert or gives out bad advice, this is up for everyone who comes to this board to decipher for themselves, as it is for the advice anyone here post. What this board is for, is to provide advice based on opinion, experience, and hopefully both are backed by fact. But in the end it is up to each individual here to do some research themselves and experiment themselves by means of trial and error, finding what works for them. This board and the advice given should be a place to aide in ones journey through the dark side, not the means of which they base every decision. But even so, I will admit that there are many aspects of AAS that are absolute fact, set in stone so to speak, and I can't think of one post where DIV has gone out against factual scientific evidence.
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is ther eone above all others? or a combo like test and something else?
food, food, and testosterone !
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OK I WILL CORRECT YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE WRONG.
SOME OF "DIV"S PAST COMMENTS THAT I CAN RECALL
"I KNOW MORE ABOUT AAS THAN YOU'LL EVER KNOW ABOUT FIGHTING JIM BLAH BLAH BLAH"
"I RESEARCHED THIS SHIT FOR YEARS BLAH BLAH BLAH" I FORGET
AND A MILLION OTHER COMMENTS PROCLAIMING HIS "VAST" KNOWLAGE ABOUT AAS. HE'S BACKED OFF ON THOSE TYPE OF COMMENTS RECENTLY THOUGH.
Fair enough. I haven't been around this particular board for all that long.
You didn't answer my question though which was, in your opinion XL, what is the best bulking AAS combination?
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I CAN.
SOME OF "DIV"S COMMENTS
"TREN IS 3 TIMES AS ANABOLIC AS TEST" - WRONG
"Best Bulking AAS Combo: Test + Deca." - WRONG
THOSE ARE JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN THINK OF MORE.
you have trenbolone's anabolic/androgenic ratios handy to confirm this?
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you have trenbolone's anabolic/androgenic ratios handy to confirm this?
READ WILLIAM LLEWELLYNS ANABOLIC 2OO4 REF MANUAL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THERE.
JUST A LESSON ON HOW THEY COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS MATE.
TESTOSTERONE IS THE BASIS FOR THE NUMBER(100:100) AND TRENS RATIO OF 500:500 REPRSENTS AN ANABOLC AND ANDOGENIC EFFECT 5X TESTOSTERONES. THEY FIND THE NUMBER BY GIVING A MASURED AMOUNT OF THE DRUG IN QUESTION TO CASTRATED MALE WINSTAR RODENTS, AND THEN SACRAFISING THEM. THEIR LEVATOR ANI(A MUSCLE) AND PROSTATE ARE BOTH WEIGHED THE WEIGHT OF THE LEVATOR IS USED TO DETERMINE ANABOLIC EFFECT AND THE WEIGHT OF THE PROSTATE IS USED TO DETERMINE THE ANDROGENIC EFFECT.
HOPE THIS HELPS MATE.
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One more time, XL.... :)
You didn't answer my question though which was, in your opinion XL, what is the best bulking AAS combination?
Just curious.
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TAKE A GRAM OF ANADROL A DAY BLAKE, YOU'LL GET HUGE.
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READ WILLIAM LLEWELLYNS ANABOLIC 2OO4 REF MANUAL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THERE.
JUST A LESSON ON HOW THEY COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS MATE.
TESTOSTERONE IS THE BASIS FOR THE NUMBER(100:100) AND TRENS RATIO OF 500:500 REPRSENTS AN ANABOLC AND ANDOGENIC EFFECT 5X TESTOSTERONES. THEY FIND THE NUMBER BY GIVING A MASURED AMOUNT OF THE DRUG IN QUESTION TO CASTRATED MALE WINSTAR RODENTS, AND THEN SACRAFISING THEM. THEIR LEVATOR ANI(A MUSCLE) AND PROSTATE ARE BOTH WEIGHED THE WEIGHT OF THE LEVATOR IS USED TO DETERMINE ANABOLIC EFFECT AND THE WEIGHT OF THE PROSTATE IS USED TO DETERMINE THE ANDROGENIC EFFECT.
HOPE THIS HELPS MATE.
I know how they come up with those numbers...I'm just saying that they have 1-test as being 700% more anabolic than regular test..M1T being like over 1500% more anabolic than test..In the real world test is fucking king...Bar none...Nothing produces more muscle gains than test..Oh ya, anavar, winstrol, primo, deca, and almost all other anabolics steriods are more anabolic than test..According to those petri dish studies...Test is the least potent anabolic steriod known to man...Yet it's the base of almost every cycle..
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I know how they come up with those numbers...I just saying that they have 1-test as being 700mg anabolic than regular test..M1T being like over 1500% more anabolic than test..In the real world test is fucking king...Bar none...Nothing produces more muscle gains than test..
NO.....FUCKING.....SHIT.
WHERE DID I SAY TREN WAS BETTER THAN TEST? JESUS CHRIST.
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TAKE A GRAM OF ANADROL A DAY BLAKE, YOU'LL GET HUGE.
LOL
Since you're so quick to call out Division I actually thought you'd have an educated, realistic view on which anabolic steroids, when stacked, give the greatest amount of muscle gain. Am I asking too much?
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LOL
Since you're so quick to call out Division I actually thought you'd have an educated, realistic view on which anabolic steroids, when stacked, give the greatest amount of muscle gain. Am I asking too much?
THE BEST BULKING AAS COMBO IS NOT TEST AND DECA. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR SURE. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH??
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THE BEST BULKING AAS COMBO IS NOT TEST AND DECA. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR SURE. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH??
Then what IS the best combo, in your opinion? I'm not trying to argue, I'm honestly just curious as to what you think is the best combination.
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TEST AND DROL MATE.
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"DIV" KNOWS BASIC SHIT, YES.
BUT SOME OF WHAT HE SAYS IS IGNORANT, AND FOR A SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERT ON AAS THAT'S UNNACCEPTABLE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO CLAIM YOU'RE AN EXPERT ON AAS THEN YOU BETTER BACK IT UP, SO FAR "DIV" HASNT, SO I FEEL THE NEED TO PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE.
I agree that Div isn't the expert he's portrayed to be. He knows basic stuff, intermediate stuff. I'm sick of his "DIVISIONAL CHANGES" too, lol ::) This isn't a personal attack on him. It's others on this board that hype him up, not himself.
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I'm the only one here the has a brotelligence degree in Steriodology. ;D
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I'm the only one here the has a brotelligence degree in Steriodology. ;D
;D
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THE BEST BULKING AAS COMBO IS NOT TEST AND DECA. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR SURE. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH??
I'm giving my opinion of what works best for me, XXL.
I don't do well on D-bol or Anadrol, so obviously that's not something I'd recommend.
For pure bulking, Test + Deca are what have worked best in my experience.
Genetical predisposition differs, everyone doesn't respond the same to the same drugs.
As far as the Tren being more anabolic than Test.......whether it's 3X or 5X, what is your point? I have William Llewellyn's book as well, and it's not that big of a deal. The point that I was making was that Tren is MORE anabolic than Testosterone, by a significant amount.
DIV
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I don't do well on D-bol or Anadrol, so obviously that's not something I'd recommend.
you recommend d-bol all the time
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you recommend d-bol all the time
I recommend D-bol all the time because I know most people gain on it when stacked with Testosterone.
That doesn't mean I like it for myself.
It makes me sluggish for some reason.
DIV
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I know how they come up with those numbers...I'm just saying that they have 1-test as being 700% more anabolic than regular test..M1T being like over 1500% more anabolic than test..In the real world test is fucking king...Bar none...Nothing produces more muscle gains than test..Oh ya, anavar, winstrol, primo, deca, and almost all other anabolics steriods are more anabolic than test..According to those petri dish studies...Test is the least potent anabolic steriod known to man...Yet it's the base of almost every cycle..
Of course you know we are talking about potencies with these ratios. (a mg for mg comparison of two different drugs) Try running 30 mg/day of a Test base, then run 30 mg/day of Dbol and you'll know exactly what it means. Vida is fairly accurate up to a point.
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I don't do well on D-bol or Anadrol, so obviously that's not something I'd recommend.
SO BECAUSE YOU DONT USE ANADROL OR DBOL THAT MAKES TEST AND DECA THE BEST BULKING COMBO? DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
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I recommend D-bol all the time because I know most people gain on it when stacked with Testosterone.
AND YOU DONT KNOW THAT PEOPLE GAIN ON ANADROL...?
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SO BECAUSE YOU DONT USE ANADROL OR DBOL THAT MAKES TEST AND DECA THE BEST BULKING COMBO? DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
For me it is.......
DIV
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I THOUGHT YOU WERE A STEROID GURU? WELL A SELF PROCLAIMED ONE. YOU REALLY NEED TO HIT THE BOOKS KIDDO..............TEST+DECA THE BEST BULKING AAS COMBO? HAHAHAHA, OH BROTHER, YOU REALLY NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH "DIV".
BUT WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM SOMEONE WHO SAYS TREN IS 3 TIMES AS ANABOLIC AS TEST. A LITTLE AAS LESSON FOR YOU "DIV" TREN HAS A 500:500 RATIO TEST HAS A 100:100 RATIO.
Have you ever taken tren? Obviously not, tren is not a good for bulking! Its more for a hardening and strength. I don't always agree with DIV but he is definitely right on this one.
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Have you ever taken tren? Obviously not, tren is not a good for bulking! Its more for a hardening and strength. I don't always agree with DIV but he is definitely right on this one.
WOW, IT REALLY AMAZES ME HOW STUPID SOME PEOPLE CAN BE.
DIV SAID TREN IS 3 TIMES A ANABOLIC AS TEST, BUT I CORRECTED HIM, AS TREN IS 5 TIMES AS ANABOLIC AS TEST NOT 3 TIMES. DOES THIS REGISTER WITH YOU? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?
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sounds like someone needs to take a nap ::)
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^ Indeed
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With Oxymethalone you will blow up like a balloon in no time. Thing is, when you make gains that fast they will go away just as quickly. It's mostly water weight anyway. Good for lubricating the joints when you're busting your ass deadlifting. Increases strength considerably too.
But Oxymethalone is still considered to be the most powerful steroid.
Dianabol and testosterone cyp. worked for Arnold.
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I am brand new to this board and have NO clue who DIV is or the rest of you are. But with a 1000 of test and 400 of Deca a week you can't go wrong. It is cheap and simple. To make your gains complete you need lots of quality foods, tough gym time, and great sex. Great sex being the most important cog in the wheel!
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I am brand new to this board and have NO clue who DIV is or the rest of you are. But with a 1000 of test and 400 of Deca a week you can't go wrong. It is cheap and simple. To make your gains complete you need lots of quality foods, tough gym time, and great sex. Great sex being the most important cog in the wheel!
TEST AND DECA IS GREAT FOR BULKING JUST NOT THE BEST
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With Oxymethalone you will blow up like a balloon in no time. Thing is, when you make gains that fast they will go away just as quickly. It's mostly water weight anyway.
VERY UNTRUE.
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VERY UNTRUE.
how can we honestly take your advice double Xl? you are a compulsive liar- you need to get lost.
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2nd that
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how can we honestly take your advice double Xl? you are a compulsive liar- you need to get lost.
YOU MUST BE CONFUSING ME WITH SOMEONE ELSE, I DONTLIE. ALL A MAN HAS IS HIS WORD.
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test prop 1-2
test enth 1-16
eq 1-14
abombs 1-4
tren 10-16
gh 1-16
and eat like a mother, maybe a little slin
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Test. Enthatate
Testosterone Cypionate
Sustanon 250
All three are hands down winners!
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i found that when i mixed test and deca i gained a lot more strength than mass. My weight didnt change but strength went way up for me.But when i just did 500mgs of test i gained alot more muscle. my next cycle will be 750mgsof test and maybe some eq and abombs
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I'm thinking of running,
Test = 750mgs wkly
eq = 600mg wkl
Abombs = 50mg daily for 6wks..
I'm 26yrs old 5'10 215lbs 10% bodyfat, lift 4days a week & have been lifting & playing football for well over 10yrs...Any thoughts on this cycle guys?
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I'm thinking of running,
Test = 750mgs wkly
eq = 600mg wkl
Abombs = 50mg daily for 6wks..
I'm 26yrs old 5'10 215lbs 10% bodyfat, lift 4days a week & have been lifting & playing football for well over 10yrs...Any thoughts on this cycle guys?
6 weeks is way too short, Lil' Subculture....
I'd say at least 12 weeks is sufficient, otherwise I do not approve this cycle.
DIV
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I'm thinking of running,
Test = 750mgs wkly
eq = 600mg wkl
Abombs = 50mg daily for 6wks..
I'm 26yrs old 5'10 215lbs 10% bodyfat, lift 4days a week & have been lifting & playing football for well over 10yrs...Any thoughts on this cycle guys?
For the record, I meant to say...Test & Eq will be ran for 10wks & abombs for 6 wks...Is that better Div? And yes you are right, I am small, we all are...in our heads! ;D
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add one anadrol 50 tab daily and your golden..
i wouldn't even consider Anadrol if i was trying to bulk, it's too hard on the stomach and takes away appetite.
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you guys are forgetting the all time best, old school bulking steroid, Testosterone Suspension.
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For the record, I meant to say...Test & Eq will be ran for 10wks & abombs for 6 wks...Is that better Div? And yes you are right, I am small, we all are...in our heads! ;D
Ten weeks of Test & Eq is not enough........that was the point. Anadrol for 6 weeks for what purpose? The cycle is not properly constructed, as I said before.
you guys are forgetting the all time best, old school bulking steroid, Testosterone Suspension.
Suspension has fallen out of favor because it's waterbased. People are spooked by it......
DIV
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Test @500mgs a week and 100 mgs of Anadrol for 4 weeks works GREAT. Throw in 5 iu's of slin on training days.
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Dianabol and testosterone cyp. worked for Arnold.
Did Arnold use test? I was under the impression guys back then only took pills.
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Did Arnold use test? I was under the impression guys back then only took pills.
Arnold used alot of shit, Lil' Block.
Believe it.
DIV
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Did Arnold use test? I was under the impression guys back then only took pills.
Yes he took test, and a good deal of it with a lot of everything else available. He didn't take as much as some of the others, but he did his part.
There are several soundbites where you hear Arnold talking about taking large amounts of Dbol, that's probably why you have the opinion you do.
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the ols American made suspension was UNREAL, you can still get some Steris every now and then but you'll pay out the nose, the worst thing to ever happen to the steroid scene were these shitty companies like Brovel, Tornel and TTokkyo, those suck ass.
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the ols American made suspension was UNREAL, you can still get some Steris every now and then but you'll pay out the nose, the worst thing to ever happen to the steroid scene were these shitty companies like Brovel, Tornel and TTokkyo, those suck ass.
^Indeed.
The market was saturated, Mirzy.
Things will never be the same again. :'(
DIV
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^Good advice.
Diet must be sufficient to even think about bulking.
Best Bulking AAS Combo: Test + Deca.
DIV
Div my last cycle was 750mg Test wkly, 300mg deca wkly for 12 wks....
This cycle worked great for me being my 3rd cycle! But 4cc's a week in the same area got old, but no pain no gain...I'm thinking of trying different Injection sites next go around..My question is What else can I throw in with these 2 if I decide to run them again & at what dosages? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Div my last cycle was 750mg Test wkly, 300mg deca wkly for 12 wks....
This cycle worked great for me being my 3rd cycle! But 4cc's a week in the same area got old, but no pain no gain...I'm thinking of trying different Injection sites next go around..My question is What else can I throw in with these 2 if I decide to run them again & at what dosages? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
1-15 750MG Sustanon ew
1-15 400MG Deca ew
8-15 50MG Winstrol ed
16-19 100MG Tren Acetate ed
16-19 700MG Test Prop ew
20-24 PCT
You can throw some D-bol in the mix in the first part of the cycle if you want, but since I have you running Winstrol for 8 weeks, I'm erring on the side of caution.
DIV
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1-15 750MG Sustanon ew
1-15 400MG Deca ew
8-15 50MG Winstrol ed
16-19 100MG Tren Acetate ed
16-19 700MG Test Prop ew
20-24 PCT
You can throw some D-bol in the mix in the first part of the cycle if you want, but since I have you running Winstrol for 8 weeks, I'm erring on the side of caution.
DIV
In my area Sustanon is hard to come by & if you do its Crazy high in price! Can it be switched out with another type? If so what would you recommend to be good options
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i just did a crazy cycle of ummm i think its called creatine? I gained 20pds in 2 months and got to keep it after i got off the sause. ;D
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i just did a crazy cycle of ummm i think its called creatine? I gained 20pds in 2 months and got to keep it after i got off the sause. ;D
Wow, nice....How much did that gear cost ya??? lol
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it was 70$ canadian for 2 months :)
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is ther eone above all others? or a combo like test and something else?
Test. It has a relatively low toxicity, which means that you can stay on it for long periods of time. All the other androgens that cause great increases in mass and strengh, like methandrostenelone, oxymetholone and trenbolone, carry specific and severe side-effects. If I had to take one thing and nothing else-envisioning large gains in mass-, then my androgen of choice would be the big T.
SUCKMYMUSCLE