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So I just noticed that my hair (which has always been thick) is starting to thin in the front.... my father went bald starting around my age, and he had extremely high test levels his whole life.
anyway, I never noticed it in the couple cycles I did before (up to 750mg test and 600mg/deca weekly), but now just running the 200mg cyp/week and 150 tren/a weekly im seeing substantial thinning. ( I was just getting ready to double my test and tren dosages)
is this normal given the compounds and small doses im running? Or is this just my fathers genetics kicking in coupled with the juice?
And what are the best ways to combat this?
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Sucks to be you.
If you're genetically predisposed steroids accelerate it and no way to stop it.
People use DHT inhibitor but meh... that stuff sucks.
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Finasteride works really well but don't take it if you value your sexuality. It's associated with permanent sexual dysfunction even after cessation. Many lives have been ruined from this drug.
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Yeah, you gotta remember that even with low doses you have a higher amount of androgens attacking your hair follicles than you would naturally. If you're serious about keeping your hair you should start with a finasteride, minoxidil, nizoral combo but you have to stick with them forever or at least till you decide you no longer care.
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go with dutasteride instead of fina. stopped my 'shedding'. I don't notice any hairs in the sink or shower now. and that was with just a few weeks of use.... even at my doses.
the dutast I used came from cem-meso.
Dutasteride blocks a higher amount of dht than finasteride so this post makes a lot of sense.
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I started to thin, but now on deca cycles and no more shedding.
Basically, 400 deca and 100 test. No issues, no deca dick etc... Works well for me!
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Does dutasteride have the same sides/risk of permanent sexual dysfunction as finesteride?
im pretty sure its only a matter of time for me..... my father is the only male in the family that is bald... but it hit him hard.
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I started to thin, but now on deca cycles and no more shedding.
Basically, 400 deca and 100 test. No issues, no deca dick etc... Works well for me!
Yeah deca is easy on the hair for most people. There's a theory that dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride shouldn't be used with it because it prevents nandrolone from breaking down to a milder dhn via 5 alpha reductase, letting nandrolone itself attack your hair. I was too scared to try them at the same time so I don't know if this is true. My hair loved deca with really low test...I used a 5% minoxidil/azelaic acid mix back just to be safe and my hair was looking better than ever.
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Does dutasteride have the same sides/risk of permanent sexual dysfunction as finesteride?
im pretty sure its only a matter of time for me..... my father is the only male in the family that is bald... but it hit him hard.
Technically it should cause more side effects than finasteride since it blocks a higher amount of dht. I didn't suffer any sides using finasteride btw...if you think about it can also be beneficial to prostate health when using higher amounts of androgens.
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Yeah deca is easy on the hair for most people. There's a theory that dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride shouldn't be used with it because it prevents nandrolone from breaking down to a milder dhn via 5 alpha reductase, letting nandrolone itself attack your hair. I was too scared to try them at the same time so I don't know if this is true. My hair loved deca with really low test...I used a 5% minoxidil/azelaic acid mix back just to be safe and my hair was looking better than ever.
minoxidil/azelic acid? Is this OTC? I have zero clue on these drugs methods of action so if anyone can explain to me how they work and how rhey interact with the drugs im taking, id be very appreciative.
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go with dutasteride instead of fina. stopped my 'shedding'. I don't notice any hairs in the sink or shower now. and that was with just a few weeks of use.... even at my doses.
the dutast I used came from cem-meso.
how did it effect your sexual function? Not worth it to me to lose it.
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minoxidil/azelic acid? Is this OTC? I have zero clue on these drugs methods of action so if anyone can explain to me how they work and how rhey interact with the drugs im taking, id be very appreciative.
This was a premixed solution I bought online bro. Its a topical...a liquid you have to rub on your scalp everyday. Minoxidil is rogaine and I'm sure you can get the 5% otc in the states. What it does, if I remember correctly is that it dilates your hair follicles allowing for the hair to grow with more ease. The azelaic acid is an actual dht blocker and don't know if that's otc over there. I had great results with that combination...the site I ordered it from was from the u.s so you'd have no problem getting it if interested.
It wouldn't interact with anything you're taking...side effects...seems like everything can cause side effects but no problems over here.
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There comes a time in every mans life he has to shave his head
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Does dutasteride have the same sides/risk of permanent sexual dysfunction as finesteride?
im pretty sure its only a matter of time for me..... my father is the only male in the family that is bald... but it hit him hard.
RU topic can help you. dont use deca with fina/duta!!!!
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RU topic can help you. dont use deca with fina/duta!!!!
I don't use deca anyway, but thanks for the heads up. Borracho said the same thing, sometehing to do with the fina blocking Decas natural hair sparing mechanism or some shit.
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So I just noticed that my hair (which has always been thick) is starting to thin in the front.... my father went bald starting around my age, and he had extremely high test levels his whole life.
anyway, I never noticed it in the couple cycles I did before (up to 750mg test and 600mg/deca weekly), but now just running the 200mg cyp/week and 150 tren/a weekly im seeing substantial thinning. ( I was just getting ready to double my test and tren dosages)
is this normal given the compounds and small doses im running? Or is this just my fathers genetics kicking in coupled with the juice?
And what are the best ways to combat this?
start finasteride at1 mg/day.
10days on 5 off for ever.
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Most people are fine, until they hit a certain age and the balding process starts. Which is why you never had an issue before
Finasteride or hair transplant are the only effective solutions, but I wouldn't mess w Finasteride and hair transplants are $$$$$
AAS speed up the process....no way around it.
Beautiful hair or beautiful body--pick one
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Start putting emu oil and coconut oil on the spots that are thinning (or everywhere) every night. Emu oil awakens dormant hair follicles and causes them to open up. Coconut oil is a good stimulator of hair growth. Should notice and improvement after two weeks.
Also make sure your taking in lots of Omega 3's and a multi. Imo, if the hair is just thinning and not actually "receding" its not really MPB. I did this when my hair started thinning on sdrol and it got it nice and thick again. 8)
And if you're really serious about making sure you don't lose it don't ever go above 200 mgs test/week and use substances like deca and eq for the anabolics.
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Start putting emu oil and coconut oil on the spots that are thinning (or everywhere) every night. Emu oil awakens dormant hair follicles and causes them to open up. Coconut oil is a good stimulator of hair growth. Should notice and improvement after two weeks.
Also make sure your taking in lots of Omega 3's and a multi. Imo, if the hair is just thinning and not actually "receding" its not really MPB. I did this when my hair started thinning on sdrol and it got it nice and thick again. 8)
And if you're really serious about making sure you don't lose it don't ever go above 200 mgs test/week and use substances like deca and eq for the anabolics.
Yeah I pretty much just use test and tren... lol. Probably not a solid duo for hair issues. :D
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Beautiful hair or beautiful body--pick one
this summs it up.
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my hair started to thin now
I have started rubbing in nizoral before I go to sleep
I'll let you know if anything happens after the first bottle is used up
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this summs it up.
I refuse. :D
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i have that small area on side front of head where harline "receeds",but thats been the case since 15 years, didnt get any worse.
if one wants do steroids, best find out which one is easy on your hair, its never the same for all ppl.
and a good reason to not start with high doses, and only run 1 compound,then you know what was the trigger and can go off.
winny makes hair fall out?stop it and try somethign new etcetc.
itll fall out eventualy if its meant to be.
so what.
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I refuse. :D
You'll come around like the rest of us....I give it a year
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Dutasteride is chemically similar Finasteride. It inhibits the conversion of testosterone into DHT by blocking the enzyme, 5-alpha reductase. There are 2 forms of 5-alpha reductase, type 1 and type 2. Dutasteride blocks both of these isoenzymes, where Finasteride blocks mainly the type 2 isoenzyme.
With more effectiveness comes more potential for side effects.
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Does anyone know anything that might reactivate hair growth where it has thinned (not receded)?
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Does anyone know anything that might reactivate hair growth where it has thinned (not receded)?
Stopping steroids would help...that's number 1. Than you can try the best science has been able to come up with and hope for the best....finasteride, minox, nizoral.
There's other drugs/topicals but they can be more of a hit or miss than the ones above....there's a lot of stuff mentioned in the hairloss thread pinned at the top of the board.
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Stopping steroids would help...that's number 1. Than you can try the best science has been able to come up with and hope for the best....finasteride, minox, nizoral.
There's other drugs/topicals but they can be more of a hit or miss than the ones above....there's a lot of stuff mentioned in the hairloss thread pinned at the top of the board.
I thought I would have to stop as well. But the thing is nothing causes me hair loss besides tren and anadrol, I never go over 750mg as well.
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I thought I would have to stop as well. But the thing is nothing causes me hair loss besides tren and anadrol, I never go over 750mg as well.
Yeah bro but regrowth is hard enough naturally, running high amounts of androgens has to make it impossible. I'm sure theres a few guys who have been able to regrow while being on but that has to be extremely rare. Perhaps something else is happening to them also... like going through periods of telogen efflovium or however its spelled. You know, the hair loss you get when your body senses hormonal changes or introduction of new drugs.
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my hair started to thin now
I have started rubbing in nizoral before I go to sleep
I'll let you know if anything happens after the first bottle is used up
i tried this after reading it helped regrowth.
Within week my scalp was bright red and as dry as a nuns clit.
Had to discontinue.
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i tried this after reading it helped regrowth.
Within week my scalp was bright red and as dry as a nuns clit.
Had to discontinue.
What % and what brand of keto did you use? The over the counter 1% has a lot of harsh cleansers. I have a script for the %2 and it works very well. I've used the foam version of 2% keto in the past and in my opinion it is the version with the least hassles. You can leave the foam in. Creams are also available.
It's not unusual to experience dryness with keto. I only use it three-four times a week and I always use a conditioner. A leave in conditioner might be a good idea.
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What % and what brand of keto did you use? The over the counter 1% has a lot of harsh cleansers. I have a script for the %2 and it works very well. I've used the foam version of 2% keto in the past and in my opinion it is the version with the least hassles. You can leave the foam in. Creams are also available.
It's not unusual to experience dryness with keto. I only use it three-four times a week and I always use a conditioner. A leave in conditioner might be a good idea.
Thanks
it was the 2% but i used it every night, ill give it another try maybe every other day or so and see how it goes.
Do you find it has worked for regrowth?
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i take 5 mg of finasteride per day
libido very high
not sure if it is workin,g for hair
its real tho from the pharmacy
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it was the 2% but i used it every night, ill give it another try maybe every other day or so and see how it goes.
Do you find it has worked for regrowth?
It's difficult to say whether I've seen any regrowth from keto. I see it as an adjunct to other treatments rather than a stand alone.
Every other day three times a week would be advisable or so the consensus would indicate. I usually leave the keto shampoo in my hair for 5-10 minutes and then rinse it out.
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it was the 2% but i used it every night, ill give it another try maybe every other day or so and see how it goes.
Do you find it has worked for regrowth?
I typically have very sensitive skin but the 2% is just fine for me!
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I use the nizoral foam and leave it in overnight, it's prescription and name brand is called ketodan.
Google Japanese study hair loss ketoconazole, pretty good results but they left it in overnight.
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Shave your head like the rest of us.....
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Finasteride works really well but don't take it if you value your sexuality. It's associated with permanent sexual dysfunction even after cessation. Many lives have been ruined from this drug.
this. works well and most doctors prescribe finasteride but their are harsh sides. You could just shave your head if you nlook good with a shaved head luckily I look real good with a shaved head. Stop the roids before it gets to bad you will end up wearing a hat everyday or a wig.
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I use the nizoral foam and leave it in overnight, it's prescription and name brand is called ketodan.
Google Japanese study hair loss ketoconazole, pretty good results but they left it in overnight.
I agree, the foam is the best. The foam is more expensive but more the price for the convenience. A 2% cream was used in the Japanese study.
this. works well and most doctors prescribe finasteride but their are harsh sides. You could just shave your head if you nlook good with a shaved head luckily I look real good with a shaved head. Stop the roids before it gets to bad you will end up wearing a hat everyday or a wig.
I haven't experienced sides while on Finasteride. With any drug there is a potential for side effects.
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i take 5 mg of finasteride per day
libido very high
not sure if it is workin,g for hair
its real tho from the pharmacy
it seems you really love your hair.
1mg of pharma fina is more than enough.
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this. works well and most doctors prescribe finasteride but their are harsh sides. You could just shave your head if you nlook good with a shaved head luckily I look real good with a shaved head. Stop the roids before it gets to bad you will end up wearing a hat everyday or a wig.
So how did the guys doing the olympia in thE 70s and 80s have a head full of hair? I mean ALL of them.
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So how did the guys doing the olympia in thE 70s and 80s have a head full of hair? I mean ALL of them.
People say they relied more on deca than a lot of test guys use these days...
I don't know about that but deca was pretty easy on my hair at higher doses than test.
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it seems you really love your hair.
1mg of pharma fina is more than enough.
i'm considering to increase to 10mg
i'm just not sure if it's working
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People say they relied more on deca than a lot of test guys use these days...
I don't know about that but deca was pretty easy on my hair at higher doses than test.
most use test more because its cheaper.
Was deca cheaper back in the day?
i'm considering to increase to 10mg
i'm just not sure if it's working
for me it takes around 5-6 days of taking finasteride at1 mg to completely stall hairloss.
10mg seems to be extreme. Just 1mg /day is enough for most. How much test are you on right now?
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most use test more because its cheaper.
Was deca cheaper back in the day?for me it takes around 5-6 days of taking finasteride at1 mg to completely stall hairloss.
10mg seems to be extreme. Just 1mg /day is enough for most. How much test are you on right now?
500 mg of test
how do you know it's stalling hairloss?
hair not falling out anymore?
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500 mg of test
how do you know it's stalling hairloss?
hair not falling out anymore?
my last was test e 580mg/week
At around the start of third weeka, my pillow used to have a lot of hair on it. After starting finasteride within 6 days there was no hair on pillow and also no fall during shampooing. Nizoral shampoo does not work. Before using finasteride i had tried nizoral upto the point of keeping it applied the whole day. Did not affect hairloss much. But finasteride was quick. I do get some harsh sides from fina even at low dosages of1 mg/day.
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People say they relied more on deca than a lot of test guys use these days...
I don't know about that but deca was pretty easy on my hair at higher doses than test.
what is the max you have used for deca?
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i take 5 mg of finasteride per day
libido very high
does not affect libido.
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what is the max you have used for deca?
something under a gram...I did use a topical that I mentioned ealier in the thread though.
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does not affect libido.
correct, it's all bullshit stories
of course you need to keep estrogen under control
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One week nizoral
No further hair shedding
Hopefully I will get some regrowth
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can someone give me the link where i can order the right nizoral?
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can someone give me the link where i can order the right nizoral?
Most pharmacies sell it. It's not that expensive. 200ml cost me $20 in Australia where everything is expensive. You only use a dime sized amount
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One week nizoral
No further hair shedding
Hopefully I will get some regrowth
i have used nizoral. Never helps in my case once the test goes above 500mg. It seems i am genetically pre disposed.
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can someone give me the link where i can order the right nizoral?
anaBOLDichalo ;D
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can someone give me the link where i can order the right nizoral?
I could but should I?
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I could but should I?
acting pricey huh ;)