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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20131120/croatia-celebrate-nazi-chant.ap/?xid=ob_sisports
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Croatia player, fans celebrate World Cup berth with pro-Nazi chant
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Croatia Nazi
I refuse to admit Yugoslavia is gone. So I still use the name.
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(http://espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/ustasa-flag.jpg)
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I love Serbia.
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the muzzies won >:(
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hahaha those poor guys look like theyve been fighting wars all there lives
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Please quit it with this shit again. ::)
The chant was used during the defensive war against the Ottoman Empire. It has nothing to do with Nazi's.
American Bellamy Salute
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Yugoslavia is best Slavia.
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Yugoslavia is best Slavia.
lol
yeah, communism rocks!
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Thanksgiving sucks I dont own any buckle belt shoes.
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Please quit it with this shit again. ::)
The chant was used during the defensive war against the Ottoman Empire. It has nothing to do with Nazi's.
American Bellamy Salute
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjCkF7_uSpjpBB4kw-gTls59WehLbSuYBvaHPV3G71VApC2Xvlzw)
(http://i.imgur.com/cyLJEym.png)
No shit, Mussolini used it before Hitler, which he got from the roman salute. But, since Hitler did it, it will now forever be tainted.
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Why did Clinton intervene? ???
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im pretty sure hitler thought slavs were subhuman
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clinton and nato wanted to bust up yugoslavia :(
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WHY did the USA destroy Yugoslavia?
Well I recently saw a movie made by a Serb who lives in Canada, and it says that communism in
Yugoslavia really worked, and that the people were happy, but that the USA and NATO countries
didn't
like it because it was neutral, and it was trading between the Eastern block, and NATO countries, and
as a
result, USA spies destroyed the Yugoslav economy, and they sparked the ethnic tension, which
provoked
the wars. I want to ask, is all this information true? And why the USA didn't like the country?
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Why did Clinton intervene? ???
Because the Yugoslav army which consisted of Serbs and the Serb militia called chetniks decided that the other nations that formed Yugoslavia at the time should not have their independence and so they attacked them. What followed next was what all wars do to men that are fueled by either hate or vengeance/revenge.
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Of coarse they liked it as it worked in their favor at the expense of others. Please bro, just give it up.
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I know that you are the expert on Yugoslavia... but so is Galeniko. So much of this is made out to be the fault of Serbia. I do not buy that.
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Because the Yugoslav army which consisted of Serbs and the Serb militia called chetniks decided that the other nations that formed Yugoslavia at the time should not have their independence and so they attacked them. What followed next was what all wars do to men that are fueled by either hate or vengeance/revenge.
Yeah, but how was that any of our business? No oil? No strategic positioning? What was our real interest there?
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What followed next, was what all wars do to men that are fueled by either hate and or vengeance/revenge.
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add in corruption, ego, and greed
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I know that you are the expert on Yugoslavia... but so is Galeniko. So much of this is made out to be the fault of Serbia. I do not buy that.
I'm not an expert but I am unbiased, something he cant claim. I stick to the facts and that's what happened. Simple question, did Bosnia, Hercegovinia, Croatia, Slovenia, attack Serbia?
No.
It is very well documented who had the weapons and the means and who carried out the initial aggression during the 1990's.
I talked to several men that served as peace keepers there and they all came to the same conclusion as to who the aggressors were. Some guys on this board were there and PM'd me some crazy shit but I promised not to divulge. If Yugoslavia was just allowed to melt away as Czechoslovakia did there wouldn't have been any problems.
Anyway, Im bored going into this shit all over again. Fact remains, this player did nothing wrong. If anyone wants to be critical of him its that he sucks as a player and is not the brightest guy playing and not this Nazi sensationalism that people rely on to sell and make money.
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add in corruption, ego, and greed
For sure. A sad time for that area which sucks cause it is beautiful and has lots of history.
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Yeah, but how was that any of our business? No oil? No strategic positioning? What was our real interest there?
Brother, you know how I feel about intervention. lol
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Great posts Dundat. Thank you.
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Brother, you know how I feel about intervention. lol
I guess I'm just trying to get you going... lol ;D
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Only explanation I've read for US involvement.
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Ro6er Bacon is asking what I want to know as well. WHY did the USA do it. WHAT did the USA get from it? Money? Resources? Land? What?
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Great posts Dundat. Thank you.
No problem my man.
In the end, theres good and bad of every race, gender, creed and color. Not all Serbs are bad, not all are good, same goes with Croats, Bosnians, etc....they really just need to let it all go. Leave the past in the past. Respect each other and leave each other alone. They shouldn't demand things that aren't theirs to begin with and whatever other bullshit the minority causes.
It'll take time as those that lost loved ones get older and pass on. Hopefully the future generations can learn to make it work.
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I guess there are good Albanians too. I just have not found one yet. I am still on the quest though.
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I guess I'm just trying to get you going... lol ;D
I have nothing invested in this so itll be hard but I appreciate the truth and facts as much I can gather them. You know this from all my posts on the political board. I didn't always take the most popular opinion but one I felt was just. I think you're very much the same way and that's why we got along. ;D
Peace. lol
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Ro6er Bacon is asking what I want to know as well. WHY did the USA do it. WHAT did the USA get from it? Money? Resources? Land? What?
There is no doubt that the main reason for the US intervention was for its own worldwide dominance. Humanitarian reasons were not at the forefront of its mission but it still does not take away from the facts as to what had occurred there.
The US took advantage of the situation there for its own gain on the world platform.
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dundat, are you denying that the whole of croatia suckered up to the nazi regime during ww2?
are you aware of that.
they been their lapdogs.
yes,the serbs too.
and yes the partisans were started in croatia, see, this is unbiased.
youre just making it sounds in your first post as if croatia has or never had any ties whatsoeever to the nazi regime.
i hate these discussions, and thats all ill say.
govts did stuff, the common ppl followed or not, in order to survive.
every one is different.
maybe some 100 years later the ba;lkan ppl can finaly get over that.its soon gonna be 100 years, this is pathetic.
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Anyone seen Pretty Village, Pretty Flame? It was recommended to me by a getbigger, I'm interested in the subject too.
Highly recommend it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Village,_Pretty_Flame
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dundat, are you denying that the whole of croatia suckered up to the nazi regime during ww2?
are you aware of that.
they been their lapdogs.
yes,the serbs too.
and yes the partisans were started in croatia, see, this is unbiased.
youre just making it sounds in your first post as if croatia has or never had any ties whatsoeever to the nazi regime.
i hate these discussions, and thats all ill say.
govts did stuff, the common ppl followed or not, in order to survive.
every one is different.
maybe some 100 years later the ba;lkan ppl can finaly get over that.its soon gonna be 100 years, this is pathetic.
With respect, you seem to have the inability to separate what happened in the 1940's and what happened in the 90's. They are separate events and should be treated as such although that's what causes much of the problems over there, the inability of the people of that area to simply... let it go.
No, the whole of Croatia was not suckered up to the Nazi regime as is clarified in your next statement.
I agree, I don't like getting into these long debates either, I also agree with the rest of your commnets. I have nothing personal against you and would like to keep it civil.
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Anyone seen Pretty Village, Pretty Flame? It was recommended to me by a getbigger, I'm interested in the subject too.
Highly recommend it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Village,_Pretty_Flame
yah its a very good and funny movie, its actualy anti war movie, but bc the subject is soo touchy, there will be conflicted views.
but the movie, how it made, is brilliant.
dundat btw ,im not even a serb, im about as serbian as borat is.
im part croat though.
the 90s was "just" a contunation of the ww2 conflict, however kept regionaly.
you say communism sucks?ok but the nation was more socialist, it wasnt ruled by lenin.
and look what the nationalists of all 3 main sides have done.
yah i dont feel like talking about this anymore, its no good for the nerves.
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I have nothing invested in this so itll be hard but I appreciate the truth and facts as much I can gather them. You know this from all my posts on the political board. I didn't always take the most popular opinion but one I felt was just. I think you're very much the same way and that's why we got along. ;D
Peace. lol
Thanks, and yes I know! I'm always interested in your take!
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yah its a very good and funny movie, its actualy anti war movie, but bc the subject is soo touchy, there will be conflicted views.
but the movie, how it made, is brilliant.
dundat btw ,im not even a serb, im about as serbian as borat is.
im part croat though.
the 90s was "just" a contunation of the ww2 conflict, however kept regionaly.
you say communism sucks?ok but the nation was more socialist, it wasnt ruled by lenin.
and look what the nationalists of all 3 main sides have done.
yah i dont feel like talking about this anymore, its no good for the nerves.
So you are a mix of Croat and Montenegrin?
Never said it was ruled by Lenin but it's parties associated with communism despite any other name. Oppression of any kind during that time is not something I deem a leap in human evolution, thus I consider it a failure, (not that it's current economic state is better. )
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I am not moving there next week.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20131120/croatia-celebrate-nazi-chant.ap/?xid=ob_sisports
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Croatia player, fans celebrate World Cup berth with pro-Nazi chant
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20131120/croatia-celebrate-nazi-chant.ap/#ixzz2lF6hBbMz
Croatia Nazi
I refuse to admit Yugolsavia is gone. So I still use the name.
Amigo we exchanged a email or 2, and we agree on a lot of things.
But this time you went over the top, or looks like CroCop type mucho hombre have than something physical to you ?.
As a pretend to be ex US soldier you repeated several time: I love Serbia & made very much anti American/Nato
statement.
Real ex military man would never talk BS.
Suggestion, visit Split (again) & call local Croatian boys with insulting name, or visit Kosovo,Montenegro & try your luck.
Like you don't know that several Croats brigades a together with theirs American buddies in Afganistan.
And WHO a you to call them Nazi.
OBW, it was Yugoslavia not Yugolsavia.
OBW 2, real martial artist would not expose his abilities or ranking.
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We don't give a damn about soccer, just check with showstoppa.
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I guess there are good Albanians too. I just have not found one yet. I am still on the quest though.
Albania is NATO member country & they would die together with American soldiers if is needed.
Take a very cold & long shower amigo.
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German knight... I have insulted you... but NOT on purpose. I was just posting the article that I read. I apologize. Serbia treated me great. Croatia did too. Montenegro was also great. I just feel closer to Serbia.
Peace.
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Ro6er Bacon is asking what I want to know as well. WHY did the USA do it. WHAT did the USA get from it? Money? Resources? Land? What?
Croats state of Dubrovnik (Dubrovniks Republic) was the 1st country which officially recognized
American Independence.
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Video footage shows Simunic taking a microphone to the field after the match and shouting to the fans: ''For the homeland!''
Oh brother. This is the supposed pro-nazi chant? ::)
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SI wrote the article. NOT me.
(Sports Illustrated)
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SI wrote the article. NOT me.
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He is USA. He is USMC.
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So you are a mix of Croat and Montenegrin?
Never said it was ruled by Lenin but it's parties associated with communism despite any other name. Oppression of any kind during that time is not something I deem a leap in human evolution, thus I consider it a failure, (not that it's current economic state is better. )
Only 8 weeks ago Nato War Games "Slunj 2014" ended in Croatia,Nato brigades from the US,locals,Slovaks,British,etc,... participated.
Small "guest" contigent of Montenegrans army (soon to be Nato member ) was there too.
Several Montenegros army officers a in Afganistan with Croats MP brigade.
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Oh brother. This is the supposed pro-nazi chant? ::)
Joe Simunic, was born in Australia & if is: FOR MY HOME pro-nazi chant then I am from another galaxy.
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Regarding to that soccer match (Croatia-Island), young croats player Mateo Kovacic is the new Maradona
with his ball abilities driving trough 5 Islands players twice.........now I see why he plays for Inter Milan.
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Couldnt care about any bullshit footballers, but the former Yugoslavia region is blessed with shit loads of smoking hot women.
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I was there in 1997...counting weapons. I felt lied to...all the women were smoking. Our terps were ridiculous.
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Yes, the females of Yugoslavia are amazing! Always have been!
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Yes, the females of Yugoslavia are amazing! Always have been!
Last night in one of Sydney's Starbuck cafes good looking pussy was "smoking"
one of those electric cigarettes ::)
Old Fidel would ::) his eyes if he see that.
OBW any cienguegos smokers here or readers Cigars magz.
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;) :D ;D
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Last night in one of Sydney's Starbuck cafes good looking pussy was "smoking"
one of those electric cigarettes ::)
Old Fidel would ::) his eyes if he see that.
OBW any cienguegos smokers here or readers Cigars magz.
Cigar Aficionado broseph
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La Flor de Cano
Romeo y Julieta
Cohiba
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Cigar Aficionado broseph
yes that one, no more Barnes & Nobles shops near me :(
I use to follow that nice mag
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La Flor de Cano
Romeo y Julieta
Cohiba
1 Cohiba per month would be fine :)
Only 4-5 tobacconists (very small) shops in Sydney
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those are the three brands that I buy my range does not go beyond that I have friends who smoke all brands though so every now and then, I try what they share they are the true experts
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Can't believe we still can't get Cubans. Cold War is over, what's the point? China is communist, we still deal with them. I don't get it.
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Can't believe we still can't get Cubans. Cold War is over, what's the point? China is communist, we still deal with them. I don't get it.
Political stupidity, & Vietnam is turning into Nato (American) ally ::)
Who was/is Her Arnold Cuban cienfuegos supplier ?.
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I get mine from Cuba, via Nicaragua.