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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Borracho on November 28, 2013, 10:51:26 AM
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What is the reason you prefer them and what sort of compounds do you base your cycles around?
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looks like they're out of style...
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What's "low" in the question? We've reached a point here where 1g is "TRT levels"
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For the sake of argument lets say 200mg a week or under
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What's "low" in the question? We've reached a point here where 1g is "TRT levels"
yeah true lol
I'm thinking no more than 250 mg of test a week though preferably less. I'm planning cycle for the new year and I know most would say I could get better gains with more test but its ok cause "I don't wanna get too big" ...oh brother!
But really, I had good gains before on a low test dose and my skin and hair looked great. And the guys from the golden age and shortly after must've relied less on test and more on anabolics cause most of them still had their hair and looked their age...
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I know we have drugs to combat side effects like hair loss, acne, gyno etc but the less drugs I have to take the better. So what I'm planning on running is something higher in eq maybe a bit of deca, and throw in an oral here and there. Basically I'm gonna try to use as much as possible without looking like an old man with no hair...I don't really care if I may potentially feel like one temporarily.
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make it test with eq id say.
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which oral are you gonna use?
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make it test with eq id say.
Yeah bro I can see something like that...maybe 250 test 750 eq.
which oral are you gonna use?
Dbol is pretty good no? lol
I've used it before and even 20 -30mgs gives a pretty good boost and mild on sides for me...tried var and tbol but for the price/gains you can't beat dbol.
Deca I may throw in there at 300mg or something...definitely don't wanna run this one too high cause I've had prolactin sides with it over 500mg or so.
Pretty much what I'm doing here is gonna stack all the steroids I've tried, liked, and responded to for the first time. I've ran a lot of shit on its own...was doing a lot of playing around not too interested in gaining size. But this next year I'm gonna see if I can start adding some muscle again.
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if u have good genetics and train hard eat lots u can look like a national level competitor in clothes with low dose.
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if u have good genetics and train hard eat lots u can look like a national level competitor in clothes with low dose.
What's a low dose?
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if u have good genetics and train hard eat lots u can look like a national level competitor in clothes with low dose.
eat lots?
whenever i ate more calories than i needed i just put on fat
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I don't ever really go over 250mg test since about a year now, and I make up the difference with other stuff.
250mg test, 50mg dbol
250mg test, 600 deca
250mg test, 750 eq
600 deca, 30mg dbol--this was a good one, looked great! Zero acne, no bloat.
Nandrolone, dbol, and tbol are my favorite. When dieting, ill usually just stick to 250mg test, maybe some dbol to fill out.
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eat lots?
whenever i ate more calories than i needed i just put on fat
If you look over his post he adds "in clothes" ;D
You should try some deca/dbol dj that shit will blow you up!
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I don't ever really go over 250mg test since about a year now, and I make up the difference with other stuff.
250mg test, 50mg dbol
250mg test, 600 deca
250mg test, 750 eq
600 deca, 30mg dbol--this was a good one, looked great! Zero acne, no bloat.
Nandrolone, dbol, and tbol are my favorite. When dieting, ill usually just stick to 250mg test, maybe some dbol to fill out.
Awesome!
I think we have the same tastes.
And see dj... me and him wrote our responses at the same time...try it!
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Yup, like you I wanna avoid excessive hair loss and estrogen sides so I just keep test at manageable levels.
I suspect test is important for "size"/mass/scale weight, bc I've never gained much weight even though my physique is always changing. The anabolics just seem to give me an unnatural appearance--totally what I'm going for
250 test, 750 eq here
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Awesome!
I think we have the same tastes.
And see dj... me and him wrote our responses at the same time...try it!
well man, i dropped the dbol and switched back up to superdrol, and i'm drier already, at less than a week in, so maybe there really is something to "dry" and "wet" compounds
have you ever run winny? and if yes, how'd you like it?
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Yeah I've seen your pic before pv69 ...you're in great shape. On nandrolone I got a lot of compliments saying my skin was glowing...I suspect it has to do with it's abilities to increase collagen production whereas with test, studies show it lowers it over certain doses. Only problem with deca for me is the prolactin sides I've gotten but that will be minimal on lower doses. The size for me on moderate doses was equal on test vs deca but I felt much better/stronger in the gym on deca. The eq I'm finding very mild at 500 but also on sides which is a plus.
well man, i dropped the dbol and switched back up to superdrol, and i'm drier already, at less than a week in, so maybe there really is something to "dry" and "wet" compounds
have you ever run winny? and if yes, how'd you like it?
There really is a difference in water retention from different drugs. I think wrt water weight, drugs affect most people in a similar manner but you always have a few who react differently. I know the water retention I'm getting from eq at 500mg is probably a bit less than I would on 250 of test and I imagine most would react the same.
No winstrol for me...harsh on hair and joints...no thanks. I wouldn't bother if I were you simply cause you're already naturally lean(don't need anything to intensify that) and you like to lift heavy.
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you like to lift heavy.
yep, and i was worried about that with winny, coz supposedly it even dries the joints out and wreaks havoc on them if you lift heavy, so thanks for the hands up there
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If you look over his post he adds "in clothes" ;D
You should try some deca/dbol dj that shit will blow you up!
dj is still wearing pants in the gym. Probably needs to get back to squats, leg press is a joke.
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2CC test + 1CC of whatever anabolic = my sweet spot.
Throw in some low dose oral and it's lights fuckin out 8)
I can't ever imagine going over 1g a week ever
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Yeah I've seen your pic before pv69 ...you're in great shape. On nandrolone I got a lot of compliments saying my skin was glowing...I suspect it has to do with it's abilities to increase collagen production whereas with test, studies show it lowers it over certain doses. Only problem with deca for me is the prolactin sides I've gotten but that will be minimal on lower doses. The size for me on moderate doses was equal on test vs deca but I felt much better/stronger in the gym on deca. The eq I'm finding very mild at 500 but also on sides which is a plus.
Yeah Im not a big fan of EQ....it doesn't seem to do much for me in the gym. I never built much mass off of it anyways, so I really only got a cosmetic effect that lasted as long as I was on the EQ.
Deca is the definitely the best steroid for me. Gets me strong as shit, I feel great & assertive on it, I'm always hungry on it, and no side effects really. The only bad thing is that I bloat like a mofo after eating junkfood.
No other steroid builds as much lasting muscle tissue as deca, mg for mg.
I really thought it was the perfect steroid, but some research that's been coming out indicates that it can lead to long-term health problems. And it's definitely the worst steroid as far as AAS-induced cardiac myopathy
So I've mostly been on just 250mg test these days :-X
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If you look over his post he adds "in clothes" ;D
You should try some deca/dbol dj that shit will blow you up!
yes that part was key lol
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2CC test + 1CC of whatever anabolic = my sweet spot.
Throw in some low dose oral and it's lights fuckin out 8)
I can't ever imagine going over 1g a week ever
I didn't think so either but here I am planning on doing so :D
Yeah Im not a big fan of EQ....it doesn't seem to do much for me in the gym. I never built much mass off of it anyways, so I really only got a cosmetic effect that lasted as long as I was on the EQ.
Deca is the definitely the best steroid for me. Gets me strong as shit, I feel great & assertive on it, I'm always hungry on it, and no side effects really. The only bad thing is that I bloat like a mofo after eating junkfood.
No other steroid builds as much lasting muscle tissue as deca, mg for mg.
I really thought it was the perfect steroid, but some research that's been coming out indicates that it can lead to long-term health problems. And it's definitely the worst steroid as far as AAS-induced cardiac myopathy
So I've mostly been on just 250mg test these days :-X
Tell me about it...
I was too until about 6 weeks ago when I decided to try this eq. And the 500mg of it feels like 250 of test for me anyways, probably even less ;D .
That's why I'm kinda fed up with this little low dose bs and wanna get back to growing like I was on deca/low test last year. The dose was under a gram but I felt everything you described wrt your experience with it...hungry, strong, even more aggressive but I never put that towards anything negative. My joints felt like a baby's...man I love it its just too bad I had to resort to using caber for the last few weeks where I jacked up the dose.
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Yeah Im not a big fan of EQ....it doesn't seem to do much for me in the gym. I never built much mass off of it anyways, so I really only got a cosmetic effect that lasted as long as I was on the EQ.
Deca is the definitely the best steroid for me. Gets me strong as shit, I feel great & assertive on it, I'm always hungry on it, and no side effects really. The only bad thing is that I bloat like a mofo after eating junkfood.
No other steroid builds as much lasting muscle tissue as deca, mg for mg.
I really thought it was the perfect steroid, but some research that's been coming out indicates that it can lead to long-term health problems. And it's definitely the worst steroid as far as AAS-induced cardiac myopathy
So I've mostly been on just 250mg test these days :-X
Im the same way, it's always been my favorite.
What other long term health problems have you seen with deca though?
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How much testosterone is needed for health?
HRT dose in Australia is 250mg every 14 days
I was thinking 0.25cc twice a week with the 250 enanthate?
Obviously I'd measure this with a slin pin lol
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How much testosterone is needed for health?
HRT dose in Australia is 250mg every 14 days
I was thinking 0.25cc twice a week with the 250 enanthate?
Obviously I'd measure this with a slin pin lol
In the US it appears to be 150-200mg of cyp every 14-21 days.
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In the US it appears to be 150-200mg of cyp every 14-21 days.
200mg of test cyp every 2 weeks seems to be the average from what I've seen.
More involved endocrinologists will tincture the dosage to reach blood levels of 800-1000
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Im the same way, it's always been my favorite.
What other long term health problems have you seen with deca though?
I've seen various research suggesting that it may:
-damage the lining/endothelia of the blood vessels
-cause the heart & left ventricle especially to hypertrophy
-reduce neuroplasticity in the brain
-damage cells at the chromosomal level
Granted, most of the research is based off of animal studies and/or in vitro stuff, but it still gives me pause. Still probably the mildest steroid though, short of test maybe.
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yah 1gramm is not always the same as 1 gramm.
1 gram test is harsher than 200test+800eq.
whatever you do, for consistent gains just gradualy up the dose and add other compounds.
can up from 200 test to a gramm but whatd be so smart about it, when 200 test+ 400eq will still give results.
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yah 1gramm is not always the same as 1 gramm.
1 gram test is harsher than 200test+800eq.
whatever you do, for consistent gains just gradualy up the dose and add other compounds.
can up from 200 test to a gramm but whatd be so smart about it, when 200 test+ 400eq will still give results.
All my stuff costs the same, I can only afford 3ml a week + HRT dose test
The boldenone is 200mg/ml. Do you think 125/600 test/equi would be good for growth when lean?
My other options are 500 test + orals, 125/400 test/deca + orals, 125/600 test/deca, 750 test and finally 125/400 test/equi + orals
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yah 1gramm is not always the same as 1 gramm.
1 gram test is harsher than 200test+800eq.
whatever you do, for consistent gains just gradualy up the dose and add other compounds.
can up from 200 test to a gramm but whatd be so smart about it, when 200 test+ 400eq will still give results.
I don't wanna wonder if I'm taking enough you know...it would put my mind at ease just throwing the dose as high as tolerable before I get too old. I wanna be able to maintain on much less in a few years and if I don't do some heavier cycles I doubt I ever will. In my mind that's how it works...a lot of guys juice hard when young/dumber and maintain on much less later on. Then again gh is always an option and I will at some point...definitely in my 40's.
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I've seen various research suggesting that it may:
-damage the lining/endothelia of the blood vessels
-cause the heart & left ventricle especially to hypertrophy
-reduce neuroplasticity in the brain
-damage cells at the chromosomal level
Granted, most of the research is based off of animal studies and/or in vitro stuff, but it still gives me pause. Still probably the mildest steroid though, short of test maybe.
You're killing my muscle buzz bro :(
Deca has always been my favorite >:(
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I'd also have the option of no test and 800mg equipoise as well as no test with 600 equipoise + an oral (lets say dbol)
What do people here think will be best?
I train for strength, so my "cycles" are 4-6 weeks in length and I alternate high androgens with high anabolics, as it lends itself to the type of training better
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I'd also have the option of no test and 800mg equipoise as well as no test with 600 equipoise + an oral (lets say dbol)
What do people here think will be best?
I train for strength, so my "cycles" are 4-6 weeks in length and I alternate high androgens with high anabolics, as it lends itself to the type of training better
If you're dead set on 4-6 week cycles than don't even bother with eq. At 4-6 weeks you may start feeling some of the benefits of this drug and trust me they're not that great compared to other drugs. Much better drugs for strength...but 4-6 weeks is so short man I wouldn't use anything but orals and short esters.
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If you're dead set on 4-6 week cycles than don't even bother with eq. At 4-6 weeks you may start feeling some of the benefits of this drug and trust me they're not that great compared to other drugs. Much better drugs for strength...but 4-6 weeks is so short man I wouldn't use anything but orals and short esters.
I've heard this as well, but Clint Darden seems to say otherwise. He told me that everything starts working as soon as you put it in you. The studies with deca show peak blood levels the day after that stay elevated all week
Obviously I don't have experience here though. But Darden seem to think 750 test for 4 weeks followed by 400 deca + orals for 4 weeks and vice versa works really well and he claims to have many top level strongmen doing this with long esters
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I've heard this as well, but Clint Darden seems to say otherwise. He told me that everything starts working as soon as you put it in you. The studies with deca show peak blood levels the day after that stay elevated all week
Obviously I don't have experience here though. But Darden seem to think 750 test for 4 weeks followed by 400 deca + orals for 4 weeks and vice versa works really well and he claims to have many top level strongmen doing this with long esters
It really does get working right away bro. But for the blood levels to reach stable levels and for one to start noticing the cosmetic and strength benefits of anything takes time, especially with the long estered drugs.
Now, I don't know exactly how the guy does his cycles but if they're 4-6 weeks of continually being "on" and just switching steroids around than I can see some benefits. You'll always be flooded with hormones this way...strange method but if its working you can't argue with results.
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lol
here's my leg exercise, i think it's the best choice for me, as i have a bit of turnip thighs and need more lower quad, in fact it's the only leg exercise that i do
thought about adding leg exts and curls but not sure if i need them
the funny thing is, i do about 15 exercsies for my upper body (chest, back, delts, bis, tris) but just do 1 exercise for wheels lol
and yes, my wheels have improved rather nicely from this exercise and i'll even post leg shots on jan 31st to "prove" it 8)
in my honest experience.... hard work+greater training poundages=larger muscles
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That is not a Vince Basile built machine :D but looks as if it would work the lower quads similar to a hack squat.
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I'd also have the option of no test and 800mg equipoise as well as no test with 600 equipoise + an oral (lets say dbol)
What do people here think will be best?
I train for strength, so my "cycles" are 4-6 weeks in length and I alternate high androgens with high anabolics, as it lends itself to the type of training better
Eq and an oral, definitely.
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You're killing my muscle buzz bro :(
Deca has always been my favorite >:(
Yeah I know....this stuff isn't healthy, but I think reasonable doses & clean living keep the total risk minimum. Healthy & clean diet, lots of cardio, no rec drugs and aas use probably isn't TOO bad, or one can hope
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It really does get working right away bro. But for the blood levels to reach stable levels and for one to start noticing the cosmetic and strength benefits of anything takes time, especially with the long estered drugs.
Now, I don't know exactly how the guy does his cycles but if they're 4-6 weeks of continually being "on" and just switching steroids around than I can see some benefits. You'll always be flooded with hormones this way...strange method but if its working you can't argue with results.
Good post.
To add, let us all remember that muscle hypertrophy works through DNA transcription, a process that takes time.
Any "gains" seen immediately are mostly a combination of water, glycogen, electrolytes/sodium within the muscle.
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Yeah bro I can see something like that...maybe 250 test 750 eq.
Dbol is pretty good no? lol
I've used it before and even 20 -30mgs gives a pretty good boost and mild on sides for me...tried var and tbol but for the price/gains you can't beat dbol.
Deca I may throw in there at 300mg or something...definitely don't wanna run this one too high cause I've had prolactin sides with it over 500mg or so.
Pretty much what I'm doing here is gonna stack all the steroids I've tried, liked, and responded to for the first time. I've ran a lot of shit on its own...was doing a lot of playing around not too interested in gaining size. But this next year I'm gonna see if I can start adding some muscle again.
I have a question for you Borracho. in all your topics you write about hairloss etc.
What i wanna know is what did you cycle and use previous without having hairloss?
You are always using Finasteride but did you ever did a cycle without finasteride?
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That is not a Vince Basile built machine :D but looks as if it would work the lower quads similar to a hack squat.
exactly, and that's why i'm doing it ;)
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Yup, like you I wanna avoid excessive hair loss and estrogen sides so I just keep test at manageable levels.
I suspect test is important for "size"/mass/scale weight, bc I've never gained much weight even though my physique is always changing. The anabolics just seem to give me an unnatural appearance--totally what I'm going for
250 test, 750 eq here
why not Test/Primo 250/1000?
Have you ever tried primo?
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I have a question for you Borracho. in all your topics you write about hairloss etc.
What i wanna know is what did you cycle and use previous without having hairloss?
You are always using Finasteride but did you ever did a cycle without finasteride?
Damn.... there's always variables that makes me wonder what is "safe" and what isn't. Like if I had not used topical minoxidil/azelaic acid with deca and low test would I have noticed hairloss?? ...was not on finasteride then but would it have made it worse?
If I had used a higher dose of anavar would I have noticed hair loss...40mg btw
tbol made my scalp itch and had I stayed on it longer would I have started to shed? 40mg again
Do I not respond to finasteride or was it bad quality since I did notice hairloss on 500mg of test...off the finasteride now btw.
Just take out the clippers and shave your head if you wanna avoid all this paranoia.... it'll drive you nuts.
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Thanks for the help guys
I think I'll stay with low androgens, high anabolics for the most time then.
When I need to grow, I'll go more for deca/dbol. When I just want to train hard and maintain my size I'll go for equipoise. Although I think high testosterone would be good in their somewhere. I'll have to play around with a few things
Then when I need to really ramp weights up, then I'll switch to androgens. What do you think of this?
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Damn.... there's always variables that makes me wonder what is "safe" and what isn't. Like if I had not used topical minoxidil/azelaic acid with deca and low test would I have noticed hairloss?? ...was not on finasteride then but would it have made it worse?
If I had used a higher dose of anavar would I have noticed hair loss...40mg btw
tbol made my scalp itch and had I stayed on it longer would I have started to shed? 40mg again
Do I not respond to finasteride or was it bad quality since I did notice hairloss on 500mg of test...off the finasteride now btw.
Just take out the clippers and shave your head if you wanna avoid all this paranoia.... it'll drive you nuts.
True man. i become very crazy for all the uncertain things related to hairloss and AAS, facking shit...
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True man. i become very crazy for all the uncertain things related to hairloss and AAS, facking shit...
You know, for the guys that are just gonna run 12 weeks cycles a couple times a year I wouldn't even worry too much. You're not gonna lose much hair in that time frame if you stay away from the more androgenic/dht based steroids and use some sort of prevention methods as listed in the hair loss thread.
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You know, for the guys that are just gonna run 12 weeks cycles a couple times a year I wouldn't even worry too much. You're not gonna lose much hair in that time frame if you stay away from the more androgenic/dht based steroids and use some sort of prevention methods as listed in the hair loss thread.
Yes, Willem is a steroid head and never lost his hair.
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Yes, Willem is a steroid head and never lost his hair.
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;D
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If you are a bodybuilder for a long time, just for not falling apart you'll need always MINIMUM 1mg of T per lb of bodyweight per week. Personally I need more (around 1,25). That is just for NOT FALLING APART.
For cruising (= holding on to as much muscle mass as possible and making a base for a later blast) that T base needs to be suppleted with a mild anabolic that has a good build up effect. EQ is ideal for that purpose. 600mg EW is a sweet spot for me and many others (slowly changing look, no sides, possible to take year round). D-bol even as little as 20mg ED will preserve fullness without giving sides. This cruise combo can be used year round, some less advanced guys even making nice solid gains on it.
Good enough for those who rather pursue a fitness physique then a bodybuilding physique. Note that this notion changed over time: Frank Zane would be considered a fitness physique today.
Don't think to quickly that you have a bodybuilding physique. I know a lot of tall 250lb guys that I call fitness physiques. Personally I prefer fitness physiques right now. Proportionally less back and trap thickness and less leg mass.
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If you are a bodybuilder for a long time, just for not falling apart you'll need always MINIMUM 1mg of T per lb of bodyweight per week. Personally I need more (around 1,25). That is just for NOT FALLING APART.
For cruising (= holding on to as much muscle mass as possible and making a base for a later blast) that T base needs to be suppleted with a mild anabolic that has a good build up effect. EQ is ideal for that purpose. 600mg EW is a sweet spot for me and many others (slowly changing look, no sides, possible to take year round). D-bol even as little as 20mg ED will preserve fullness without giving sides. This cruise combo can be used year round, some less advanced guys even making nice solid gains on it.
Good enough for those who rather pursue a fitness physique then a bodybuilding physique. Note that this notion changed over time: Frank Zane would be considered a fitness physique today.
Don't think to quickly that you have a bodybuilding physique. I know a lot of tall 250lb guys that I call fitness physiques. Personally I prefer fitness physiques right now. Proportionally less back and trap thickness and less leg mass.
First time I've seen a calculation as to how much test is optimal for a person. Doesn't sound wrong or anything but I know everyone has individual preferences and some guys say they need a lot more to feel "good" while running other steroids. Good enough for me though and 1mg per lb works just fine.
I'm planning something like what you've described for the new year with the addition of a little npp or deca at 300-400 a week.
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Damn.... there's always variables that makes me wonder what is "safe" and what isn't. Like if I had not used topical minoxidil/azelaic acid with deca and low test would I have noticed hairloss?? ...was not on finasteride then but would it have made it worse?
If I had used a higher dose of anavar would I have noticed hair loss...40mg btw
tbol made my scalp itch and had I stayed on it longer would I have started to shed? 40mg again
Do I not respond to finasteride or was it bad quality since I did notice hairloss on 500mg of test...off the finasteride now btw.
Just take out the clippers and shave your head if you wanna avoid all this paranoia.... it'll drive you nuts.
some will have some shedding initially on fina... I've never used it because of fear of side effects (chemical castration, ect.. lol).
I've used dutastaride and was very pleased. stopped all shedding.
the only time I really noticed my hair getting 'thin' was when I was running huge amounts of T3 (unknowingly), in addition to huge doses of anadrol, tren and test (trying to hold onto mass I was losing because of the t3.. couldn't figure out why I was shrinking).
my hairs always been super-thick, and only goes back a lil on the temples.. but that's been very slow and gradual since I was 19/20..... nowhere near mark dugdale or ronny rockel territory yet though.
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some will have some shedding initially on fina... I've never used it because of fear of side effects (chemical castration, ect.. lol).
I've used dutastaride and was very pleased. stopped all shedding.
the only time I really noticed my hair getting 'thin' was when I was running huge amounts of T3 (unknowingly), in addition to huge doses of anadrol, tren and test (trying to hold onto mass I was losing because of the t3.. couldn't figure out why I was shrinking).
my hairs always been super-thick, and only goes back a lil on the temples.. but that's been very slow and gradual since I was 19/20..... nowhere near mark dugdale or ronny rockel territory yet though.
So you haven't noticed any increased shedding using deca with dutasteride?
And are there any bald men in your family or are you using the dutasteride just to be safe?
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my hairs always been super-thick, and only goes back a lil on the temples..
Lol, isn't that like being super skinny but with a fat ass stomach?
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Lol, isn't that like being super skinny but with a fat ass stomach?
As most of us age the hair line will go back a little. It gives you a more mature look and can add a bit of character depending on far it goes in. The following is just being in denial however...
(http://plasticsurgerystar.com/users/1/page_images6/jude-law-hair-recession.jpg)
They say a lot of the hairloss meds don't help with hair lines but people do experience regrowth in those areas. Using minox I started seeing some black hairs regrow in the temples. I'm like esf...always had super thick hair and now in my 30s I'm seeing it go back a little. I'm stage one as shown in the following chart and letting it get worse than this is just unacceptable for me.
(http://www.theprivateclinic.co.uk/uploads/editor/images/Hair_Loss/Norwood_chart.gif)
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Falcons do not have this problem.
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Falcons do not have this problem.
He does...
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Damn, I was too busy looking at the hair I didn't notice how lean he's looking. Good for him.
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Damn, I was too busy looking at the hair I didn't notice how lean he's looking. Good for him.
Yes he has been running the court lately draining 3's burning off cals.
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Yes his has been running the court lately draining 3's burning off cals.
too bad he can't dunk @ 6 feet 6 inches tall BRUTAL!
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too bad he can't dunk @ 6 feet 6 inches tall BRUTAL!
LOL
And you'd think a falcon would be able to fly.
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LOL
And you'd think a falcon would be able to fly.
no shit man, he must have lots of slow twitch fibers in his lower body, either that or his legs are weak as fuck
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So you haven't noticed any increased shedding using deca with dutasteride?
And are there any bald men in your family or are you using the dutasteride just to be safe?
no shedding using dutast with deca.
I have one bald uncle.. typical 'bozo the clown' bald... on my dads side. he's about 6' and 310lbs.. huge belly. he's gotta be about 57 or so
another uncle's hairline goes back a bit at the temples, not to bad he's about 6'1" and 340lbs again HUGE belly, huge head/skull.. and the other uncle doesn't seem to have any receding or thinning. he's about 6' and down to about 280.. used to be A LOT fatter. they both around around 58-61yrs old.
uncle who passed away in his early 50's (about 25yrs ago at least) had a little receding at the temples.. he was 6'2" 300+... died of a heart attack.
uncle on my mothers side has a full head of hair. he's 6'5" and 'thin/muscular'. he's gotta be around 57yrs old.
my grandfather on my dads wide had hair when he died a few years ago at around 90yrs old.. thick up top, but receding at the temples. most his life he was 6'2+ and 320+ huge bones.. wrists and forearms looked like 2x4's, hands/fists like canned hams... typical Norwegian farmer.. strong as shit.
grandfather on my moms side had the same hair as my other grandfather, except he was about 5'9" and thinner. died of heart attack about 20yrs ago (he was an alcoholic).
my dad has full head of hair, except receding at temples. he's about 5'9" and thin (170 or so), at about 55/56 now.
my hair has always been super super thick, but it's gone back at the temples a few mm's over the past 10yrs or so.
just using the dutast as a precaution... I did notice what looked to be 'thinning' on the crown a year ago, but at the time I was using HUGE doses of t3 combined with high dose drol/tren/test and probably winstrol. (thought I was getting t4 in a small dose, turned out to be high dose t3) I believe the high dose t3 was responsible for the hairloss moreso than the anabolics.
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yeah man better to be safe...can't sit back with my arms crossed and watch it fall out. I take after my grandfather on my mother's side and he was one of those bad comb over dudes. I've seen pictures of him in his 20's and the guy had awesome hair..super thick with a great hair line. I don't know at what point it started falling out and I thought I wouldn't give a damn when older but I'm slowly getting there.
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yeah man better to be safe...can't sit back with my arms crossed and watch it fall out. I take after my grandfather on my mother's side and he was one of those bad comb over dudes. I've seen pictures of him in his 20's and the guy had awesome hair..super thick with a great hair line. I don't know at what point it started falling out and I thought I wouldn't give a damn when older but I'm slowly getting there.
It's been said before, but Dafoe has a kick-ass head o' hair. What are ya worried about?
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All that if your mom's bothers aren't bald stuff is bullshit, same with the if your mom's dad has hair you're good bs as well. Has nothing to do with it.
Because their hair would be dependent on "their" moms brothers and/or their moms dad. Therefore, your hair would be dependent on your grandmothers brother's and on and on. Just isn't true.
Hair type(shaft thickness) has more to do with hair loss than anything.
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Falcon is looking diesel in that vid. I might need to cut all dat der heme-iron out of my life now. I look like a 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag. Dat heme-iron is to blame. ??? ;)
The hairloss thing sucks. I noticed less hairloss when i used Nizoral like someone said in another thread probably because it cuts back on oil production on the scalp. I do have oily skin and it gets way worse on heavy gear cycles.
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I've never used Nizoral. I've seen it on Amazon but never picked it up..
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As most of us age the hair line will go back a little. It gives you a more mature look and can add a bit of character depending on far it goes in. The following is just being in denial however...
(http://plasticsurgerystar.com/users/1/page_images6/jude-law-hair-recession.jpg)
They say a lot of the hairloss meds don't help with hair lines but people do experience regrowth in those areas. Using minox I started seeing some black hairs regrow in the temples. I'm like esf...always had super thick hair and now in my 30s I'm seeing it go back a little. I'm stage one as shown in the following chart and letting it get worse than this is just unacceptable for me.
(http://www.theprivateclinic.co.uk/uploads/editor/images/Hair_Loss/Norwood_chart.gif)
im a solid stage 2 and half ;D
and guess what if they fall out oh well, it was a good 35 years run.fair enough 8)
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To all my steroid bord members up above...drunk as shit, very rare but happens from time to time!!!!
yeh aj, failcon is a demented bastid but we love him anyway, even though the hair line is getting choppy as fuck!!!
nica I dont know if that means from niggeragua but if it do ...respek for that much love!!
dago brah, we should kill ourselves if the her start falling out... I'm grwoing that shit out like joe mangiella you nah mean!~!!!
galeniklo you fuck !!!
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All that if your mom's bothers aren't bald stuff is bullshit, same with the if your mom's dad has hair you're good bs as well. Has nothing to do with it.
Because their hair would be dependent on "their" moms brothers and/or their moms dad. Therefore, your hair would be dependent on your grandmothers brother's and on and on. Just isn't true.
Hair type(shaft thickness) has more to do with hair loss than anything.
yah, if humankind knew, thered be a "cure".
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hot air for a cool breeze!!!!
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hot air for a cool breeze!!!!
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Cut off!!!
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2CC test + 1CC of whatever anabolic = my sweet spot.
Throw in some low dose oral and it's lights fuckin out 8)
I can't ever imagine going over 1g a week ever
Boldenone and nandrolone are 200mg/ml for me
Would 500/200 for equipoise really work well? Or is this strictly nandrolone?
What do you think about halving the test and doubling the anabolic for each?
Cheers
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Boldenone and nandrolone are 200mg/ml for me
Would 500/200 for equipoise really work well? Or is this strictly nandrolone?
What do you think about halving the test and doubling the anabolic for each?
Cheers
Bro, I've very much new to this game, so I can only tell you what works for ME based on the handful of cycles I've run.
As stated before, I love 1-2CCs test with 1-2 CC nandrolone being my favorite. It's superior in every way for me when compared to EQ, mg for mg. I love my nandrolone. Only time this changes is if it's summe because EQ keeps me drier.
I always stay under 1g a week, usually Im around 700-750mgs total a week.
As stated, I'm still a rookie in many regards but this is my favorite method thus far.
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Cheers bro
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Boldenone and nandrolone are 200mg/ml for me
Would 500/200 for equipoise really work well? Or is this strictly nandrolone?
What do you think about halving the test and doubling the anabolic for each?
Cheers
200 eq is barely threshold... it's a pretty weak drug. 600 minimum, but it really starts to shine at 1g+.
250 test and 400 deca would be a great place to start though
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200 eq is barely threshold... it's a pretty weak drug. 600 minimum, but it really starts to shine at 1g+.
250 test and 400 deca would be a great place to start though
even at 1g I wasn't really impressed.
maybe in about 6months.. or 3, who knows... i'll give it a go at 2g/wk for a couple months just to see what happens... I may even just run only 1g test with it... or was thinking 1g enan, 2g eq, 1g deca.. just to see what happens.
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I'm with ya, not a good choice for building size. I like the "look" it gives me, but it's not very efficacious in my opinion.
Test, deca, tren. Pretty much all anyone would need. Maybe some orals for fun
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Cheers