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http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/hot-stock-minute/unemployment-benefits-will-run-out-tomorrow-for-1-3-million-americans-140124419.html
still think Obama has the USA doing great?
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I have a friend on the UBE. The Republicans want to cut back on the budget, apparently because they have enough money themselves. And the Democrats want a temporarily extension. The question is, when will this be final? Before New Year's, or after.
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There are folks that might want to real up on the Zombie/Gun threads if EBT goes dark. Dependents don't like their free shit stopping.
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Nice of them to cut vet pensions why don't they cut their own! Welfare benefits through the roof and gov waste all over Washington but they
feel free to cut those who put their lives on the line. We need to vote all these lifers out of congress!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/23/veterans-groups-vow-to-fight-cuts-in-military-pensions/
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Nice of them to cut vet pensions why don't they cut their own! Welfare benefits through the roof and gov waste all over Washington but they
feel free to cut those who put their lives on the line. We need to vote all these lifers out of congress!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/23/veterans-groups-vow-to-fight-cuts-in-military-pensions/
You need to execute them out of congress.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/hot-stock-minute/unemployment-benefits-will-run-out-tomorrow-for-1-3-million-americans-140124419.html
still think Obama has the USA doing great?
I would end all unemployent payments for everyone today ;D
work or starve
dont let gov regulate production aka biz
end public school
end fed
lower debt ceiling to 0
cut gov spending 99%
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An estimated 1.3 million Americans will lose unemployment benefits Saturday when a federal emergency program initiated during the recession expires.
The program was not extended in the bipartisan budget deal negotiated earlier this month, although some Senate Democrats have vowed to take up another extension of federal unemployment benefits when the next session reconvenes in 2014.
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Got ammo?
Got water?
Got food?
If not, better get some now.
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Some people want to see Obama as Black. The astute will see him as a careerist.
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Some people want to see Obama as Black. The astute will see him as a careerist.
Obama has black skin but not Hebrew mentality
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Obama has black skin but not Hebrew mentality
Hehe. Pretty sure he doesn't see a second shooter on the grassy knoll. ;D
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Hehe. Pretty sure he doesn't see a second shooter on the grassy knoll. ;D
He should be on the look out for a third, fourth and fifth.
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Crime will rise. Fucking moron.
People can't live without these benefits, but at the same time what they are trying to do is to get these same people either 1) back to work (which nobody wants them) or 2) on an early retirement of SSI. The benefits will be far less than EDI or full retirement.
sucks ass.
Work til you drop, and God forbid that you started working at an extremely young age and are trying to make it to 66.
Now, if you worked hard (on the books) starting at a young age, your SSI benefits could easily be enough for you to live semi-comfortably on, as long as your bitch is working. Chances are though, she ain't gonna be to happy that you've just added to her monthly bills instead of contributed.
Shit storm is coming, but I really can't stand hearing it blown out of proportion. Guys at the gym are always talking negative gloom and doom as if there is some kind of Apocolypse coming. It gets old. "Conspiracy Theories" ~ nobody wants to hear it.
It may happen, it may not.
Lots of people will resort to working "under the table' and collecting benefits, so in the end, the GP still wins.
Let's just take it one day at a time and see what happens. Talk is cheap. We should all know that by now.
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Lots of people will resort to working "under the table' and collecting benefits, so in the end, the GP still wins.
not familiar with this expression, is it perhaps akin to "working under the towel"?
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Now they can get a fucking job, here in MN we are heading for a shortage of Ironworkers for 2014 ( about 1200), carpenters (1000) ..............if you want to work you can make over $30/hour + benefits , without even having a high school diploma.
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CHE, What are the annual Union dues for Ironworkers back there!?
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CHE, What are the annual Union dues for Ironworkers back there!?
$51 a month
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All the better to decrease the surplus population. Ba humbug!!!
Let's get rid of the 'entitled'.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
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I would end all unemployent payments for everyone today ;D
work or starve
dont let gov regulate production aka biz
end public school
end fed
lower debt ceiling to 0
cut gov spending 99%
keep in mind the benefit stuff is a neocon policy, its in their mnifesto.
they know why, they are very smart when it comes to defending their interests.
the world isnt as simple as you think.
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Crime will rise. Fucking moron.
People can't live without these benefits, but at the same time what they are trying to do is to get these same people either 1) back to work (which nobody wants them) or 2) on an early retirement of SSI. The benefits will be far less than EDI or full retirement.
sucks ass.
Work til you drop, and God forbid that you started working at an extremely young age and are trying to make it to 66.
Now, if you worked hard (on the books) starting at a young age, your SSI benefits could easily be enough for you to live semi-comfortably on, as long as your bitch is working. Chances are though, she ain't gonna be to happy that you've just added to her monthly bills instead of contributed.
Shit storm is coming, but I really can't stand hearing it blown out of proportion. Guys at the gym are always talking negative gloom and doom as if there is some kind of Apocolypse coming. It gets old. "Conspiracy Theories" ~ nobody wants to hear it.
It may happen, it may not.
Lots of people will resort to working "under the table' and collecting benefits, so in the end, the GP still wins.
Let's just take it one day at a time and see what happens. Talk is cheap. We should all know that by now.
1.3 million people are many!
I feel bad for them .
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unemployment benefit is BULLSHIT
people should be able to provide for themselves or perrish
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Obama has black skin but not Hebrew mentality
Arab blacks are not hebrews
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unemployment benefit is BULLSHIT
people should be able to provide for themselves or perrish
third world countries got average wages so low that you would not be able to buy meat, forget the supps and gear.
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Nice of them to cut vet pensions why don't they cut their own! Welfare benefits through the roof and gov waste all over Washington but they
feel free to cut those who put their lives on the line. We need to vote all these lifers out of congress!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/23/veterans-groups-vow-to-fight-cuts-in-military-pensions/
Seeing that the average person are more stupid than a grain of sand, it's unlikely. The lifers will make promises around election time, the great unwashed masses will believe said promises and everything is back to business the day after.
People are still too dumb to be trusted to do the right thing.
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Now they can get a fucking job, here in MN we are heading for a shortage of Ironworkers for 2014 ( about 1200), carpenters (1000) ..............if you want to work you can make over $30/hour + benefits , without even having a high school diploma.
'Work'?
Don't bring that dirty fucking word here mister.
I just read an article on a couple that's losing their benefit. They've both been out of work for FIVE years. FIVE FUCKING YEARS!. How on this earth is it possible not being able to find anything for five years??
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can't stop what's coming
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unemployment benefit is BULLSHIT
people should be able to provide for themselves or perrish
tell that to the uk population where a good amount of full time working ppl needs tax benefits and monthly govt top ups to survive.
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Why don't we just cut the bull shit and call an extension of unemployment welfare. It's already to long while the Democrats grandstand to their voting constituents that they want an extension. The Republicans are the thing in place that is trying to stop the out of control spending. You can't spend money you don't have. If you want a socialist government tax every worker 50% and then give to the slackers of society since they are controlling who gets elected.
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avoid urban areas if possible.
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tell that to the uk population where a good amount of full time working ppl needs tax benefits and monthly govt top ups to survive.
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so much wisdom from galeniko
I know many people here in CA, that work, and still get some kind of govt help
wages too low, and prices too high...
Imagine, people who work at fast food places here, spending 5 per gallon of cheap gas... in old shit cars... barely break even after they get paid... so they get medicaid, food stamps, etc
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not familiar with this expression, is it perhaps akin to "working under the towel"?
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People working under the table aren't necessarily working under the towel, although they certainly may be.
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I think a lot of people do want to work,( not ALL of them for sure,) who WANTS to be a welfare bum deep down inside ? I see everyday in the public schools that young people seem to have a sense of '' hopelessness", they seem to be living for today because they have serious doubts about tomorrow and what it will bring- zombie apocalypse, economic collapse, third world war .... people in the younger generation- say 15- 25 ish - seem to have lost interest in voting or getting involved in their communities to make a difference.
In my opinion the media is to blame for a lot of the BS that occurs in our great country, I think JFK had it right when he said " Ask not .... but what can YOU do...."
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so much wisdom from galeniko
I know many people here in CA, that work, and still get some kind of govt help
wages too low, and prices too high...
Imagine, people who work at fast food places here, spending 5 per gallon of cheap gas... in old shit cars... barely break even after they get paid... so they get medicaid, food stamps, etc
Very simple...move. California, thousands trying to live the dream grinding it in an overpriced overcrowded place, a few doing well. What an unrealistic tv presents California to be. No wonder so many try hards move their and maybe 10 a year breakout in acting or music.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/hot-stock-minute/unemployment-benefits-will-run-out-tomorrow-for-1-3-million-americans-140124419.html
still think Obama has the USA doing great?
Read up. It was the Republican's who refused to extend extended unemployment benefits. Not that I disagree with this. Obama is pushing for the extension. At some point, unemployment becomes a lifestyle. Personally, I think 6 months of unemployment should be ample time to find some kind of employment. At the height of the recession/depression/economic downturn when unemployment rates were higher then 9% in many parts of the country benefits were extended out to 96 weeks....almost 2 years. The norm is 26 weeks since the onset of these benefits, which was in 1932.
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tell that to the uk population where a good amount of full time working ppl needs tax benefits and monthly govt top ups to survive.
But gal, that is partly because uk policies hit the working poor the hardest. Idiots here talk about increasing gas tax which means poor ppl can't afford to drive to work, and sales tax , which hits poor ppl much harder than income tax does.. And hurts the poor much more than the rich. In the uk even middle class "need" benefits because the cost of living is so expensive and the uk taxes ppl so much
Also the uk has nearly ten percent of employed ppl working for the government so they create no wealth
I am from the uk and live in California so all the time I listen to well meaning idiots talking about how the us should copy uk bad politics that just hurt poor working people, but reward lazy scum welfare breeders.
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so much wisdom from galeniko
I know many people here in CA, that work, and still get some kind of govt help
wages too low, and prices too high...
Imagine, people who work at fast food places here, spending 5 per gallon of cheap gas... in old shit cars... barely break even after they get paid... so they get medicaid, food stamps, etc
and then they get called lazy etc etc.
parasites,etc.
i have read a book of one of the former top worlds hedge funds managers, florian homm, everybody should.
this is the top of the top ecoomic and money elite.
you will not be suprised that if he werent that, hed be a very very crimial man.
hes absoutely insane, but doesnt realize.he thinks later on he turned normal, but that was still insane.as i socio and psychopath.
kinda poor liar, though.
his views on the economy, i couldnt belive it, those at the top, they dont look down at us, they think were not worthy to be loked at in any way.
the system is rigged like hell, his own words, the us goverment and currency becoming a joke,as transparent and goofy like the enron bookwork.
he says its rigged and theres groups and clubs trying to hold together, but if they sleep for too long,they get roled over by up and coming ruthless newcomers.
lol when i see how "Middle class" ppl talk about stock investments, haha, i perspective to his views and how everything runs, its really so sad that its hillarious again.
theres also very good reasons and examples listed as to why exactly ppl in govt positions so desperately hold on to their position.
and to ppl who think rothschilds own the central banks, seriously, read a book, its much worse than if that family would realy run things.
and here were talking about breadrumbs, unemployement benefits, haha, its more important to inform oneself why and how unemployment happens, rather than engaging in populist trash talk like an utter trailer trash idiot.
if ppl seriously think the unemployed are the root of the problem,i dont know what to say.
ever heard of the terms greenmailing?read, and then go from there.
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Read up. It was the Republican's who refused to extend extended unemployment benefits. Not that I disagree with this. Obama is pushing for the extension. At some point, unemployment becomes a lifestyle. Personally, I think 6 months of unemployment should be ample time to find some kind of employment. At the height of the recession/depression/economic downturn when unemployment rates were higher then 9% in many parts of the country benefits were extended out to 96 weeks....almost 2 years. The norm is 26 weeks since the onset of these benefits, which was in 1932.
Oh please... Republicans and Democrats are two heads on the same body.
This left/right paradigm has you very angry and confused... and it's meant to be that way. Ever heard of "divide and conquer"?
Anyone who still subscribes to republican/democrat, left/right, conservative/liberal bullshit needs to wake the fuck up. The entire political system is phony. These scumbags are appointed, not elected. They need to have it like this to make you think you actually have a choice... you don't.
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Oh please... Republicans and Democrats are two heads on the same body.
This left/right paradigm has you very angry and confused... and it's meant to be that way. Ever heard of "divide and conquer"?
Anyone who still subscribes to republican/democrat, left/right, conservative/liberal bullshit needs to wake the fuck up. The entire political system is phony. These scumbags are appointed, not elected. They need to have it like this to make you think you actually have a choice... you don't.
Don't let them on to that fact. It'll distort their reality and they'll lash out to maintain and get other people to agree with their ignorance.
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Oh please... Republicans and Democrats are two heads on the same body.
This left/right paradigm has you very angry and confused... and it's meant to be that way. Ever heard of "divide and conquer"?
Anyone who still subscribes to republican/democrat, left/right, conservative/liberal bullshit needs to wake the fuck up. The entire political system is phony. These scumbags are appointed, not elected. They need to have it like this to make you think you actually have a choice... you don't.
Granted there are times when it is hard to tell the Democrat from the Republican politicians. But when it comes to the general public, there are extreme liberals and extreme conservatives and everything in between. More often than not people think and vote along party lines.
Politicians are no different then the people they represent. Some of them are indeed "scumbags" as you put it, but not all and not even most. And no, they are not appointed (with some exceptions like occasionally filling a vacant seat when it isn't election time or when no one runs for an office) they are elected. If you don't like who is in office vote them out. When you stand alone and the majority votes them in or back in, well, that's how democracy works.
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make no error, democrats and rep are different, og yes they are.
but they have the same unscrouplos goals in common.
its good that they exist, youd know this if you been in a real existant dictatorship.
complaining will do nothing.
starting new party, by default, if your ideas are better to most of the population, youll get there.
but being an extremist will be the wrong way.extremists are put off by the majority, for good reason.
youre too busy juggling fries at mcdonalds for that goal?
too much youtube?
but blaming the politicians being all the same?do it better.get started,run for local election and see how it goes.
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make no error, democrats and rep are different, og yes they are.
but they have the same unscrouplos goals in common.
its good that they exist, youd know this if you been in a real existant dictatorship.
complaining will do nothing.
starting new party, by default, if your ideas are better to most of the population, youll get there.
but being an extremist will be the wrong way.extremists are put off by the majority, for good reason.
youre too busy juggling fries at mcdonalds for that goal?
too much youtube?
but blaming the politicians being all the same?do it better.get started,run for local election and see how it goes.
For a foreigner, you have a better understanding of how a democracy works then do many people living in the U.S. People who, like you say do little more then complain and then complain more when things don't go their way. The scary part is that lately some extreme right groups, such as the Tea Party, have gained a following and even had folks elected to office. My God, we could have ended up with Sara Palin as Vice President or worse, President.
I am a political activist. I am a registered Democrat. In the last Oregon legislative sessions, some Democrats I helped get elected sold us retired folks out. We are taking them to the Oregon Supreme court to regain what was stolen from us by them. The real problem is going to be the 2015 elections when we have to decide between two evils, voting these traitors back into office or taking a chance on a unknown candidate. It often feels like we don't have much in the way of choice here even though we are so much better off then a lot of other places around the world.
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make no error, democrats and rep are different, og yes they are.
but they have the same unscrouplos goals in common.
its good that they exist, youd know this if you been in a real existant dictatorship.
complaining will do nothing.
starting new party, by default, if your ideas are better to most of the population, youll get there.
but being an extremist will be the wrong way.extremists are put off by the majority, for good reason.
youre too busy juggling fries at mcdonalds for that goal?
too much youtube?
but blaming the politicians being all the same?do it better.get started,run for local election and see how it goes.
Not complaining, just stating the obvious.
Central bankers control and own this world. They also own the military, and all law enforcement agencies/systems. Good luck trying to fight that.
Most sheeple are completely zombified and castrated by entertainment and tech toys... they have no idea what is going on and that they are slaves.
The US is already almost too far gone to save it. A revolution is the only way to change it... mostly likely a violent and bloody one.
2014 should be a very interesting year.
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Not complaining, just stating the obvious.
Central bankers control and own this world. They also own the military, and all law enforcement agencies/systems. Good luck trying to fight that.
Most sheeple are completely zombified and castrated by entertainment and tech toys... they have no idea what is going on and that they are slaves.
The US is already almost too far gone to save it. A revolution is the only way to change it... mostly likely a violent and bloody one.
2014 should be a very interesting year.
....and your solution is?
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Granted there are times when it is hard to tell the Democrat from the Republican politicians. But when it comes to the general public, there are extreme liberals and extreme conservatives and everything in between. More often than not people think and vote along party lines.
Politicians are no different then the people they represent. Some of them are indeed "scumbags" as you put it, but not all and not even most. And no, they are not appointed (with some exceptions like occasionally filling a vacant seat when it isn't election time or when no one runs for an office) they are elected. If you don't like who is in office vote them out. When you stand alone and the majority votes them in or back in, well, that's how democracy works.
Who the fuck in their right mind would vote for Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi or John Boener? -lol
95% of these people you worship are all bought and paid for.
Seriously dude, wake up.
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....and your solution is?
I just told you... REVOLUTION.
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My God, we could have ended up with Sara Palin as Vice President or worse, President.
That would have been terrible,just think - we'd have extended the patriot act indefinitely, had the government spying us, still been at war in the Middle East, got involved in several new middle eastern conflicts, continued the war on drugs and given trillions to the banks! Thank god cooler heads prevailed and we did none of that.
I am a political activist. I am a registered Democrat. In the last Oregon legislative sessions, some Democrats I helped get elected sold us retired folks out.
Lol!
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I just told you... REVOLUTION.
Hope you enjoy Guantanamo when you get there....revolution on a national scale, could be called treason.
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Fucking people who are without work, are unemployed because they don't want jobs, or don't want the jobs that are available. Maybe they should've tried harder as children in school, it may be too late for them now.
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Hope you enjoy Guantanamo when you get there....revolution on a national scale, could be called treason.
Go back to diddling with your iphone, facebook and tweets... much more constructive for you.
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Fucking people who are without work, are unemployed because they don't want jobs, or don't want the jobs that are available. Maybe they should've tried harder as children in school, it may be too late for them now.
There are a lot of people who resemble your definition, but that is not all people. Some people are out of work because they got laid off or fired. Some are recently out of school and have not found work yet. This is why there is unemployment insurance. It makes sense to help people help people get back into the workforce as quickly as possible. Under most circumstances, they should be able to manage this within 26 weeks. People who are unemployed longer than this often become chronically unemployed, finding it more and more difficult to go back to work until they finally just give up.
By the way, studies indicate that the longer a person in off work the more difficult it is for them to go back to work. This is one of the problems with workers comp. It is one of the reasons, employers with adapt the job to accommodate the employee while they are on workers comp thus keeping them coming to work each day. The bottom line in the longer someone sits on their ass at home, the less likely they are to get off it and go back to work.
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Go back to diddling with your iphone, facebook and tweets... much more constructive for you.
When all else fails (and for people like you that's almost immediately), resort to insults. Too bad you aren't intelligent enough to mount a decent discussion. But then, this is Getbig....home for the emotionally retarded, Middle School and society dropouts. So I guess folks like you just come with the territory. So sad.
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The problems of unemployment directly relate to high prices. These high prices have been caused by the inflation of the currency. When the US came off the gold standard in 1971 the Federal Reserve was able to print unbacked currency without restraint. This meant, on the whole, that you had more units of currency (dollars) being produced every year chasing the same amout of goods and services. What you're seeing as an "increase" in costs is better understood as a loss of purchasing power of the units of currency.
The 70s were marked by huge booms in commodities "prices" specifically very sensitive commodities like oil, silver and gold. It wasn't until Volker in the Reagan presidency that the Fed was forced to drastically increase the "cost" of borrowing/printing these units of currency (by raising the interest rates to 12%).
After leaving the gold standard the cost of living increased. This was seen in the creation of credit cards, which most Americans now use for daily living expenses, the need for two incomes in the family, the creation of the 401k (to drive units of currency into stocks). Stocks are another form of 'units of currency'. Deficit spending, starting with LBJ, became the norm and the US turned from being the world's creditor nation to a borrower nation.
The Volker rule (as it was called) lasted into GB's presidency until an "injection of liquidity" which means more currency printing was needed to keep the system from collapsing. Greenspan took over the Fed, reversing the Volcker rule and lowering the interest rate AND we had Gulf War 1. Wars are always useful in these situations because they quell internal dissention through the mask of patriotism, provide a stage to show off new weapons to international buyers, acquire new resources and lands, and ignite military spending (which is a large part of GDP).
This move was largely ineffective leading to the 3 way 92 election and Clinton presidency.
Clinton kept Greenspan who again lowered the cost of borrowing/printing money. Clinton also removed the Glass Steagal act so large financial institutions could further "leverage" their new debt and reduced the amount of real money "gold" that had to be on reserve. He also opened up cheap labor from Mexico and the Far East to encourage big businesses to borrow currency.
The rise of this cheap money flowed into Tech Stock speculation (before it busted) and then into the housing market of GWB's presidency (before it busted) in 2008.
What's needed is a real deflation of the currency. Prices will fall back to what the consumer can afford to pay. However, there's so much moneyed interests whose wealth and power is dependent on these leveraged "units of currency" that they manipulate the government (and its lawful use of force) to maintain their status and privilege.
However, what's coming is a mathematical certainty regardless of their plans…
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Fucking people who are without work, are unemployed because they don't want jobs, or don't want the jobs that are available. Maybe they should've tried harder as children in school, it may be too late for them now.
do you think this applies to all of them?
or to a majority?
being unemplyed is no fun, most ppl will panic.
esp being unemployed without money is the worst possible existance.
nobody wants that long term
ok if we look at those who deal crack instead, they will end up in prison or not,thats the govts job.
but nono, thats atoo simple aproach you have there.
ok some ppl worked in good job and refuse to take a "lesser" job.for a while, but when they hit shizzorock bottom, they too will take any job.
what you talking about is scum like tbombs.
btw even the leftists here are very allergic vs ppl who deliberately dont work.
and if not workng makes for about same living standard as working does, then then something inherently wrong with the system.
then,ronicaly, the usa would have entered communist like economy.
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do you think this applies to all of them?
or to a majority?
being unemplyed is no fun, most ppl will panic.
esp being unemployed without money is the worst possible existance.
nobody wants that long term
ok if we look at those who deal crack instead, they will end up in prison or not,thats the govts job.
but nono, thats atoo simple aproach you have there.
ok some ppl worked in good job and refuse to take a "lesser" job.for a while, but when they hit shizzorock bottom, they too will take any job.
what you talking about is scum like tbombs.
btw even the leftists here are very allergic vs ppl who deliberately dont work.
and if not workng makes for about same living standard as working does, then then something inherently wrong with the system.
then,ronicaly, the usa would have entered communist like economy.
I know there are exceptions to the rule, but life isn't always fair. In our system, maybe not everybody is meant to flourish. That said, I had a condo at the beach when I was younger. Well, right across the street, in the resort area, was a section 8 apartment complex. These folks lived there all their lives, and pretty much ran it like it was their own city. Normal folks didn't go there. But, they may have not had the exact quality of life I do, but they didn't work either. They were close to the beach, had cable, and most had cars. So, what you're saying is right, the system is flawed.
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I know there are exceptions to the rule, but life isn't always fair. In our system, maybe not everybody is meant to flourish. That said, I had a condo at the beach when I was younger. Well, right across the street, in the resort area, was a section 8 apartment complex. These folks lived there all their lives, and pretty much ran it like it was their own city. Normal folks didn't go there. But, they may have not had the exact quality of life I do, but they didn't work either. They were close to the beach, had cable, and most had cars. So, what you're saying is right, the system is flawed.
yeah sure that happens, but if we count 8% unemployed, thats every 12th person, even if they unemployed by choice.
now i dont know how well off unemployed are in the us, but say in germany or the uk, they are throughoutly fucked lol.
the systme sends them working for 1usd-hour jobs etc.
and even if they dont work, the money is ridivulously low, considering esp the prices of everything.
if youre unemployed in london, you are so fucked beyond hope.1 way 1 station ticket in the undeground metro is 4gbo and some change.
a bus ticket for few stations is 1and half pounds or so, food is quite expensive, and you get weekly 54 pounds,lol.
and in london you going nowhere absolutely nowhere without public transport.its bigger thn some small nations lol
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The Government is constantly trying to grow. They will never cut "entitlement" programs for any real period of time without a bigger one in it's place...Complete Government Universal healthcare is on the horizon...There is no stopping the machine.
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yeah sure that happens, but if we count 8% unemployed, thats every 12th person, even if they unemployed by choice.
now i dont know how well off unemployed are in the us, but say in germany or the uk, they are throughoutly fucked lol.
the systme sends them working for 1usd-hour jobs etc.
and even if they dont work, the money is ridivulously low, considering esp the prices of everything.
if youre unemployed in london, you are so fucked beyond hope.1 way 1 station ticket in the undeground metro is 4gbo and some change.
a bus ticket for few stations is 1and half pounds or so, food is quite expensive, and you get weekly 54 pounds,lol.
and in london you going nowhere absolutely nowhere without public transport.its bigger thn some small nations lol
Unemployment benefits are administered by the state with funds from the Federal government. Unemployment benefits are essentially funded by employer taxes. In Oregon where I live, the maximum benefit is $538 a week regardless of how high and income you earned. A person earning $40,000 a year or $10,000 a quarter would be awarded $500 a week for 26 weeks. So for people with average incomes, the benefit is approximately half of what they earned when they worked. Unemployment benefits are taxed as income. So the actual take home amount would be less then the amounts I quoted.
In order to qualify for unemployment benefits, one must be available for work each week that they collect benefits. They must also prove that they searched for work. I am not sure how many contacts one must make, since I have never collected unemployment but I think it is somewhere around 3 job applications.
Unemployment is meant as a stop gap and is not intended to replace one's income. I doubt an individual getting $500 a week would qualify for other forms of public assistance, such as food stamps and free healthcare insurance (in Oregon, that would be the Oregon Health Plan). Unemployment is no "life of Riley" kind of benefit. It is also not a gift or a handout. Employers budget for the cost of unemployment insurance, which means that essentially employees pay for it.
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keep the knowledge coming people!
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keep the knowledge coming people!
What's the matter karate man? Home alone on a Saturday night?
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I honestly believe that is what their goal is. Cloward-Piven at its worst. Complete collapse and then institute a totalitarian regime. Scary but true.
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There are a lot of people who resemble your definition, but that is not all people. Some people are out of work because they got laid off or fired. Some are recently out of school and have not found work yet. This is why there is unemployment insurance. It makes sense to help people help people get back into the workforce as quickly as possible. Under most circumstances, they should be able to manage this within 26 weeks. People who are unemployed longer than this often become chronically unemployed, finding it more and more difficult to go back to work until they finally just give up.
By the way, studies indicate that the longer a person in off work the more difficult it is for them to go back to work. This is one of the problems with workers comp. It is one of the reasons, employers with adapt the job to accommodate the employee while they are on workers comp thus keeping them coming to work each day. The bottom line in the longer someone sits on their ass at home, the less likely they are to get off it and go back to work.
Good post. In my country, the recession since 2008 made a lot of people unemployed. A lot of them want to work, but can't find jobs. It is the same in America and in most other countries right now.
Some people feel too sensitive to go do a menial job if they are e.g. university educated. For me personally, I have 18 months where I had cleaning jobs etc. even though I have a master's degree. I am just glad I was able to make my own money and not receive funds from the government. :)
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so much wisdom from galeniko
I know many people here in CA, that work, and still get some kind of govt help
wages too low, and prices too high...
Imagine, people who work at fast food places here, spending 5 per gallon of cheap gas... in old shit cars... barely break even after they get paid... so they get medicaid, food stamps, etc
just imagine how it is in a country like China.. geez.
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There has to be an end to unemployment benefits at some point...congress has continually extended them the past few years. Even though we aren't in prosperous times, we are out of the recession. We can't just keep supporting so many people indefinitely. Some people will need to do what other generations did and work jobs they may not want to work. This administration seems to want to build a large class of government dependent people and uses guilt (and the media) to shame everyone who thinks otherwise. Ultimately, job creation is the best way forward. Huge government is the antithesis to job creation in the private sector because it needs to be supported by more and more funding.
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'Work'?
Don't bring that dirty fucking word here mister.
I just read an article on a couple that's losing their benefit. They've both been out of work for FIVE years. FIVE FUCKING YEARS!. How on this earth is it possible not being able to find anything for five years??
Here's that's very easy. Why would a company hire a 40-y.o. when he could get a 16-y.o to do the same job for less? Also less sick days, etc. I wouldn't ever hire someone over 30.
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Here's that's very easy. Why would a company hire a 40-y.o. when he could get a 16-y.o to do the same job for less? Also less sick days, etc. I wouldn't ever hire someone over 30.
We're not talking flipping burgers here or cleaning cars. I'm talking positions where you present to board level or are solely responsible for for a number with many zeros behind it.
If you're a wasteful piece of shit that couldn't rise above the level of having to compete with 16yo's for jobs, then suffer.
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We're not talking flipping burgers here or cleaning cars. I'm talking positions where you present to board level or are solely responsible for for a number with many zeros behind it.
If you're a wasteful piece of shit that couldn't rise above the level of having to compete with 16yo's for jobs, then suffer.
So there are a few million high-profile jobs available?
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Here's that's very easy. Why would a company hire a 40-y.o. when he could get a 16-y.o to do the same job for less? Also less sick days, etc. I wouldn't ever hire someone over 30.
That would be your mistake. Statistics show older employees are more dedicated to their jobs and actually less likely to call in sick. While it is true that many younger people will accept less pay, they are not necessarily cost effective employees.
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Nice of them to cut vet pensions why don't they cut their own! Welfare benefits through the roof and gov waste all over Washington but they
feel free to cut those who put their lives on the line. We need to vote all these lifers out of congress!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/23/veterans-groups-vow-to-fight-cuts-in-military-pensions/
I've always wondered by the senate doesn't start with their own budget when making cuts..most of them are making top $$$ for nothing